2SOTF Ep 13: Stillness Is Medicine: Healing the Ones Who Hold Us All (ft. Michael Diana)

In this episode, Robyn is joined by Michael Diana, a PhD student in Counseling Psychology and the youngest member of Barb’s academic lineage. They come together in the wake of Barb’s recent injury to reflect on what it really means to let healers receive the care they so often give.Together, they explore themes of presence, spiritual bypassing, helper dynamics, and how to discern when we’re being helpful versus performative. The episode closes with a Loving-Kindness Meditation dedicated to Barb—and to every healer learning how to rest.In This Episode:What happens when the healer is laid outPresence vs. performance in supportHealing dynamics in high-functioning helpersWhy some people can’t stop fixing—even at the bedsideBioenergetic coherence and the ripple effects of nervous system calmPersonal stories of checking in, holding back, and choosing discernment over urgencyLoving-Kindness Meditation (for Barb and beyond)Guest:👨‍🎓 Michael DianaPhD candidate in Counseling Psychology at the University of KansasInstagram: @michaeldianaMentions & Resources:Barb (our beloved co-host and mentor)Research on Loving-Kindness Meditation and trauma recoveryTranscendental Meditation and Washington D.C. crime rate studyPower of prayer and field coherence in healingCalls to Action:📝 Subscribe to Two Shrinks on the Farm💬 Leave a review and share this episode📧 Subscribe to Robyn’s LinkedIn newsletter: The Work Beyond Work📲 Follow Robyn on TikTok: @dr.robynmckayif you're interested in having your personality tested and interpreted by the two of us, or you're ready to bring us in to work with your teams, Get started by sending an email to [email protected] and we'll help you start the process.Don't forget to follow us on Instagram for more behind the scenes fun from the farm, creative insights, and plenty of laughs from the reels that I'm constantly posting in stories. You can find us on instagram at @twoshrinksonthefarm.Last thing: we'd really love it if you'd rate and review our podcast on whatever platform you listen to us on - and share us with your buddies - the more the merrier!