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EPISODE · Nov 6, 2025 · 47 MIN

2SOTF Episode 14: Pain, Purpose, and the Timeline Shift

from Two Shrinks on the Farm · host Robyn McKay & Barbara Kerr

Episode 14: Pain, Purpose, and the Timeline ShiftIn this deeply moving episode, Barb returns to the mic for the first time since her life-threatening fall from a horse. What unfolds is a raw, luminous conversation between two lifelong psychologists—and friends—about pain, meaning, and the strange ways life reroutes us.Inside this episode:Barb’s harrowing account of her injuries, surgeries, and recovery—including the thirty minutes she spent in unbearable pain without medication.How pain changes identity: from professional achiever to someone forced into stillness.The privilege of medical access, and the despair of realizing how many don’t have it.What happens to creativity when pain (or pain medication) becomes a constant companion.The parallels between physical pain and psychological trauma—and how both demand meaning.The eerie synchronicity of both Barb and Robyn starting TikTok accounts the same week as the accident.A conversation about timelines, fate, and “spooky action at a distance.”The intersection of psychology and spirituality: knowing when to apply science, and when to allow for mystery.The question that lingers: When the future crumbles, do we crumble with it—or create something entirely new?Quotes from the episode:“Pain has been my constant companion. The best it gets is background noise; the worst is thunder.” – Barb“We construct meaning with the universe, not in isolation.” – Barb“When the future collapses, we can despair—or we can build what’s never existed before.” – RobynMentioned in this episode:Chronic pain and pain managementPsychological trauma and creativityExistential therapy and meaning-makingCultural privilege in healthcare accessTikTok as a platform for midlife reinventionQuantum entanglement, spirituality, and scienceHosts:Dr. Robyn McKay & Dr. Barbara KerrRecorded live from Kansas and CaliforniaProduced by sheology by dr robyn mckayif you're interested in having your personality tested and interpreted by the two of us, or you're ready to bring us in to work with your teams, Get started by sending an email to [email protected] and we'll help you start the process.Don't forget to follow us on Instagram for more behind the scenes fun from the farm, creative insights, and plenty of laughs from the reels that I'm constantly posting in stories. You can find us on instagram at @twoshrinksonthefarm.Last thing: we'd really love it if you'd rate and review our podcast on whatever platform you listen to us on - and share us with your buddies - the more the merrier!

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