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Dec 10, 2016 1 hr 26 min

2x08 The Chicago Way

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The Legends get a little out of hand on this weeks episode as they talk about the mid season finale. Stay tuned to after the end credits for some bloopers You can keep up with the Legends by following Matthew Beall on Twitter @RingThatBeall, Will Benson @wrbenson Kyle Krause @kylekrause89 Check us out on Facebook at http://facebook.com/legendstvtalk Subscribe to Legends Tv Talk on iTunes, Satchel and where ever else podcasts are streamed.

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Man straight on the timeline see right here see I'm Bell Yeah see I'm caught yeah see and I'm well see D M is his legend TV talk man Man how you gonna do tonight? Yeah see I'm doing something yeah see yeah I'm doing crack while yeah See I'm gonna have it with an incubator see Yeah we're gonna speak to you to the little thing and we're gonna get out here See man gonna go rob a diamond and a dispensary Because that's what they did back then Nah all right So as you can tell we are having fun in the 1920s much like the legends did today in or I guess especially with the show in Korea from now Touchables Oh that's true I have you guys seen the impact of it? I have not I love the untouchables I have not seen it it's one of those movies that's on my list to watch Listen, Koster had like Koster had like four great movies okay Boulder um you know Waterworld no kill me I got it you know Bolder on the man is steal come on man Is it there feel the dreams don't get me started on man is steal we could I'll hijack this podcast again Because we have talked about man is steal on his podcast we all know my opinion I'm gonna steal but like feel the dreams bolder um the untouchables like I mean Those are like the Kevin Posner creates and there's one or two others I like But oh the bodyguard that was the other one like and then he's got you know avatar in the west So which one of the most just to make people upset Dude you know I'm first man I've never seen dancing with wolves either I'm not seeing okay yes you have did you see avatar no I refuse to watch avatar Why would you refuse to watch avatar because I have no interest in seeing that movie It's a good movie it is dances with wolves it is almost the exact same plot as dances with wolves If you've seen avatar really in space yes you've seen dances with wolves And we will never speak of water worlds ever Oh and I like to come to you oh my god I like Kevin Koster This is like a decision going to you I like that movie Well he's one of those actors like everybody hates and then you start thinking about movies that he's in and you're like Oh wait I liked him in that and I like to make like I like draft day holy cow I like Kevin Koster I mean who doesn't like Nick was cage either Everybody gets make the cage crap they say oh he's Nick was cage well why the man's one in academy award He has one in M&M okay Wait wait wait, even in one academy award. Yeah, for a mile cuz the song of the year You gotta lose the music the moment you want it you gotta never let it go yo that mom's spaghetti here myself These week oh spaghetti.

This is mom's mom's spaghetti. Have you seen the version of it where it's like oh mom spaghetti? Yes It's been saved. Yeah, saved.

Saved. And never mind. That's a preview of the after credits, folks. There's after credits today.

And it's going to be fun for the after credits. It's beautiful. It's a thing of beauty. I think it's fanttered enough, maybe.

Yes, thank you, boss. So it might be time for History Lesson. Well, yeah. So here we go.

History Lesson time. Season two, episode eight, The Chicago Way, directed by O'Ralph Hemaker and story by Serena Cole Jones and Ray Uterna-Jit. If you turn a shit, you bought it. We've had this joke, but it's you bought it.

You turn a shit. You turn a shit. There we go. And Ray Uterna-Jit.

All right. Kyle, why don't you let us know what happened in this episode? Well, when a new time aberration is discovered by the legends, they find themselves headed to 1927 Chicago. The legends really quickly realize that they have been set up by Ibar Thon, Deming Dark, and the newest member of the Legion of Doom, Malcolm Merlin.

Well, everyone is trying to help fix what they think is the mission. Jackson Courage is a reluctant Stein to share his secret with the other legends. Stein is taken captive and Sarah must make the tough choice of whether of either stopping the Legion of Doom or saving Stein. Meanwhile, Rory gets an unexpected visitor and is not sure how to handle it.

Dun dun dun. See? Wow. Mick.

So 1920s Chicago. That was pretty neat. It was, you know, they've been teasing this episode for a while. And we're finally here.

We get to see Al Capone. And the aberration was that he becomes mayor. That sounds like it would be very, very bad for Chicago. Perhaps the world, maybe.

Of course, like a time aberration, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And so... Shae! I'm a bit jeezy. See?

Yeah, we're going to have random yas and seas. All over this. What's a gangster's... Well, actually, it works better with this one.

What's a pirate's favorite letter? R.C. You use both, but no. They say R.

You go, no, it is the C. And if they say C, you say no, it is the R. Because you can... Yeah.

Anyway, that's either here or there. And that's nothing to do with gangsters or 1927 Chicago or Legends of Tomorrow. So, scratch that. Flip it.

Versus... Stick it. You lose. Good day, sir.

Yeah, so the team gets... You know, Stein's got this aberration thing going on that he created. He's talking to Jacks about it. And they get...

I guess they have a klaxon now that's like warning them when there's time amorations, which sounds like a bad idea. Why don't I just get in and say, hey, time aberration, guys. Instead, I got sirens. And so...

Yeah, they got sirens alarms and they still don't have a name for whatever... Yeah, what did they call it? I forgot his name. Holy crap.

What's his name? Steel. Nate. Nate.

Wow. Okay. Yeah, they still don't have a name for whatever Nate made. What did they call it this time?

They called it something different. They called it the... The Spear of Destiny. Right?

Well, that was later. Okay. Which is kind of like the pick of Destiny except for Tenacious needed. No, that has a very big DC artifact.

We can go over that later. Okay, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was curious about that.

Okay. And Stein thinks that the aberration they're coming across is his daughter, which he probably should, because he screwed up real big. And since his daughter is a genius, it would be hard for me to think that she wouldn't end up being some kind of aberration. What do you think?

Do you think? Because they're saying that if she's not an influencer factor on time, that it won't be that big of a deal. But how can a genius daughter of a superhero not be a big deal on time? Especially when she doesn't exist in time.

True. Yeah. Yeah, what Martin said was if she's not that important, it won't be that big of an aberration. So I'm pretty sure she doesn't have that much, I don't want to say the right word, but impact on the timeline to really create a time aberration for her.

Okay. So I think Martin is right and saying that she's in the clear for now at least. Yeah. Because I mean, we know that she's going to be a recurring character, so she has to be a creator.

Yeah. Until the end. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So I think we're going to investigate her as an aberration or are we going to, because her character is going to be recurring, are we going to see more, I guess, them doing flashbacks like they did this episode or more of them traveling to 2016 to visit her? I think I could go either way. I don't think they'll visit, visit.

I think what will happen is at some point something's going to come up in 2016 to say, you know, she's a time aberration, right? Yeah. But I kind of, I was thinking about this while watching it and because I'm used to the, you know, the whole gut shot that comes from the Burlandy verse. I almost want to put it out there right now.

I want to lay this down right now. He's not signs his wife had an affair when he wasn't around and it's going to turn out he, him talking to himself in the younger years didn't do anything. She'll be a result of flashpoint or something stupid like that. And she's not.

Like they're going to go there thinking she's the aberration and there'll be something else and then he's going to have home to racist. Yeah. No, because you know, he'll be like, you grew up as my daughter and he'll show himself is I mean, they get more mileage out of the story. But I mean, I'm kind of like the minute I'm sitting there and I'm listening to him come clean and I'm like, man, he's coming clean way too easy to everybody.

And this was such a big deal last week. Like it's been literally six hours. Like I'm like, no, no, he's going to end up. She's going to end up not being his kid.

It's going to be like, wow. So yeah, I want to put that out there right now. This is my money. My money's on that.

And if it happens, I'm going to take my props for it and y'all are going to have to listen to me do that because you will win an internet. I will win an internet for the day. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, so we find out that it's not actually an aberration of science daughter. It's in Chicago and we get to see the Legion of Doom help out out. Pone gets essentially what they're trying to do is get him, you know, get him, get him mayor so that he can, you know, do all sorts of crazy crime things. So we can see Eobard and we see Damien and we see Malcolm Merlin, who was the newest member of our Legion of Doom.

Here's my question, fellas. Where did they, uh, the mountain Merlin come from? Did they just like go in time and pick him up with a time bubble thing? Yes.

It's, it's done off screen just for time. I guess I did, if the Legion of Doom gets any bigger, the little time pod thing that they travel around in, it's going to get really cramped really fast. We're going to have, you know, I mentioned it before a, uh, a Bill Intense Excellent Adventure situation here with the telephone booth and like all those people in it. So, uh, well, it's, it's, it's going to be more like the comic accurate timesphere that they use.

Yeah. That's going to be quite big. Oh, okay. So the comic accurate one is a lot larger?

Yeah. Okay. Don't they just stand, don't they just stand in it? I'm not sure.

Will is it understandable? Yeah. Well, no, there's been a few different versions. There's a standable one, but then there's one with controls around the outside of it.

So, yeah, like the pre-crisis version, I didn't see it much post-crisis. I only saw it really pre-crisis. So, you know, back when, you know, Rip was blonde and, you know, wavy-haired. But yeah, in pre-crisis, they were all sitting around controls on the outside of it.

He actually had like a crew in there. Oh. Post-crisis, I'm not sure. Like pre-crisis, he was still blonde and, you know, he had wavy-haired, it was the 80s.

But yeah, post-crisis is a little different. I think everybody back then had like wavy-comic, or wavy-haired comics. Yes. It's kind of like the thing.

So anyway, we see the new Legion of Doom and the Malcolm Marlin is there and they're working to get, you know, and I apologize, I had a Christmas party last night and I was up very late, so when I was trying to watch the episode. They're not. Yes. There's a lot of news involved.

Yeah. And so I'm trying to watch the episode right before. And so I may have missed some details. So they, the legends go, and the first time was the set up, right?

That was the trap that they set for them, because we have Nate and Ray are going to pose as the FBI agent, because he gets kind of way laid by the police officers that are corrupt and owned by Capone. Correct. Okay. So they go there, they go to the docks, they find this, this FBI agent who makes it to the city.

Oh my gosh. Really? You don't know Elliot and Ness? No, I don't.

Okay. We got some, we got some knowledge on the here will. Elliot and Ness. He's actually a real guy.

He was the one, he was partially responsible for bringing down the Capone. He's part of the, the Untouchables was actually a mostly true story. Like, you know, he's put this. Oh, he doesn't look like Kevin Costner.

Yes. That's why Ray said that. I, okay, I get it. Because I haven't seen the Untouchables, so I'm not too familiar with the story of a, of a, or a Al Capone.

Yeah. Yeah. Basically took Capone down, you know, it took years. But it's pretty, you know, he's the guy.

He's like a typical FBI G man and he was part of the secret task force that was created. Nobody knew who they were. They were called the Untouchables because like, like he said, he was like nobody seen Elliot and Ness. So I can just come over and just be Elliott and Ness.

It was, he was kept pretty secret, you know, all their identities were kept, you know, confidential to make sure that, you know, they, they didn't have families to be killed or anything like that. So it's really great. The movie's good. But even if not just wiki, Elliot and Ness, you know, he's, he's actually a real, he's a real guy in history.

Well, I feel like I'm gonna have to watch on touchables or just read about oh, that's what I would think in Rewatch this episode because that's the thing that I find interesting about legends is like since it is a show about time travel And they have you know there's some scenarios where it's like you know You got your your geno heck storylines, which don't really correlate to anything real and then you have your The zombie storyline which didn't really correlate to anything real, but the representation of Mississippi at the time was was very accurate It's neat how they have these accurate kind of things in there So I wasn't expecting totally like a true to form out the phone, you know Storylines, so it's good to hear that they actually kind of get up. Yeah, so I will definitely have to check this episode out again So yeah, so Elliot and s Vixen saves them from underwater they take him back to the wave writer and we learn that Gideon can cure brain damage Awesome What's to say you I haven't tried No, not right. She says what's to say I haven't been Like that's our I feel that should be our mid quote of the week is even though Mick didn't say it what's to say I haven't been Gideon has a sense of humor. Yeah, we need like either mick quotes or mick adjacent quotes about him around him, you know That should be like our quote of the week, but so Elliot NASA is taking out of the picture because of the brain damage that they're going to fix With the magic, you know space robot omg science device that Barry Allen wrote at some point in the future Not only can Gideon, you know find time aberrations Gideon can also cure brain damage with crazy future awesome science tech And so now we have Nate and Ray having to take place of Elliot to go and get the task force and move in on Al Capone and the Legion of Doom And so like we said earlier No one knew what they look like so they could just roll up in there and take care of it But it turns out that this is a trap that they set up for now.

We'll here's my question They go into the speak easy now. Was this the actual speak easy where they first? I don't think so. I didn't see it.

Okay. Okay Yeah, I didn't think it was that it looked like a set, you know granted I mean I knew they were gonna dress Sarah up as a flapper. Yeah, she wasn't a flapper. She was just you know serving drinks But yeah, I've heard of that speak easy, I think but it's just not you know A lot of that stuff is legit.

Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah, cuz the ledger thing right like that's how they get them on tax evasion They couldn't get on anything else because they find that ledger But that's what I was curious as to whether or not they actually found it in that spot and then you know, no Legends is yeah, yeah so but it turns out the Legion of Doom was there ahead of time and Eobard Thon shows up and for some reason just kill everybody Because he could he's essentially a god at this point There's no one on the legends team that can deal with him Which kind of brings me to a point that I wanted to talk about do you guys feel that Eobard is like holding way back and Just get rid of these people super fast literally and it kind of feels to me like like he's He's being underutilized as a speedster and he's kind of being like powered down a bit Kyle Do you feel the same way or am I just am I crazy? I feel the same way but in terms of the story and makes sense I mean if he was did do everything there wouldn't be much story there and there wouldn't be much of a TV show that is true So it's it makes sense as to why he's not just zipping around doing everything But I mean later in the episode we see him do a lot more But that also comes in terms of the plot and everything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I agree with I actually I'm kind of I think with you Bell. It's like it's almost like it even though it's a different actor And I again love met Lester in the role. I just I can't get past like in first season and second season of flash I mean he put his hand in everybody's chest like it didn't matter who the heck you were five seconds after he met you if he didn't like you Just done, you know, he had Martyn Stein in front of him He could have done it to any one of them inside, you know, he took him someplace.

There's no reason not to yeah You know, like he could have ended all of this real quick and been like, oh, they're all dead. Okay, then we're good Oh, look, there's the amulet. Let's grab that. Let's go It just yeah, it's a little scene.

Yeah a little bizarre But yeah, so so he goes in you know he might rolls in and obviously being the most powerful the Legion of Doom quickly dispatches the team with No effort whatsoever and now we're stuck out with Dr. Stein and Sarah being kidnapped and taken to a What was this a secret underground layer? I suppose Was it yeah? I think they were trying to go for the vault to tell you the truth Like I looked at that.

I thought it was like the vault of Al Capone that you guys remember maybe They found like a sandwich and something I was kind of like I was looking at this going I wonder if they're trying to tell us this is the same vault because that would have been cool Yes, yeah, but yeah, it's just a Roman. He's got them all locked up. Yeah And so our other legends on the on the ship are trying to figure out, you know how we gonna find them and it turns out that the same device that Iabard used in season one to take the Identity of Harrison Wells for some reason that's beyond me He tweaked it so that it doesn't kill the person he uses it on and you can take their identity So I don't know why at this one he wanted to keep standing alive Obviously, I mean there's story reasons you don't want to kill one of your characters right in there I especially because that means Jackstyes, and There goes two legends for the price one And then he gets returned to the ship they escape with Sarah as steel and Ray roll in and This is where they finally say steal up, right? Yes, yes That was first time that was kind of nice hearing that I thought it's gonna be like power on or something like that.

Yeah, what are twin powers activate for mom steal For the water that would be the worst to be the water wonder twin nothing worse than be the water twins Yeah, that's true. I mean if you be any superhero and you get stuck like it's like a random you push a button in your superhero And you get the water twizzing you like oh You like undo the button push and just be normal again Yeah So and now we have our our fake dr. Stein on this no actually you know we should probably talk about the the conversation that Sarah and Dr. Stein have while they're in the world of riviera's It was a world of right who there's a big safe.

Yes, it was a world. Oh, yeah, absolutely I actually watched it live. Did you like I remember the night? It was in a gated seven It was such a huge deal like we all watched it live Everybody did you know for three hours.

I give you like a history lesson on Capone and then at the end of it They're gonna go with the vault He had such I don't think he really ever recovered like he had so much egg on his face from that I don't think he ever everything about his stock went way down after that. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, like why would you not open it beforehand and then make sure there's something in there? That's what I would have done. Well, they were sure because the part of it was the way they sold it was like It could be anything in there.

We don't know we haven't gone in we really don't know we could get in there and it could be nothing It could be a really old man and a semi-old woman That's true That's what we have at this episode was you know an old man the doctor and a ninja woman Strat a chair so Stein and Sarah because they me or Malcolm early comes at the Sarah and basically get her ultimatum It's like look we want the amulet we need it you can give it to us and we'll go back in time and I won't blow up the Queen's gamut and Sarah of course she denies the offer and they talk about how it was difficult, but here's my question about the whole thing So yes, it's Malcolm Merlin. He's not really going to do that He's you know is a trick. They're not gonna like go back in time do that But if they had if Malcolm had actually gone back and been a man of his word had done this deal The implications of them not blowing up the Queen's gamut would pretty much destroy everything that's happened That's like Malcolm wouldn't be Malcolm that he is so they're creating paradoxes the whole plot of the first season would have happened The whole yeah, yeah Well, we also I mean we basically saw what would happen if the Queen's gamut never went down We saw that last we saw that in arrow that is yeah, that's what bugged me. I thought about that later Malcolm Merlin's plan would have succeeded he would have took out the the Poor part of Star City there with that Bob that he was trying to do the whole season long just part of it.

Yeah Yeah, so sorry, but I mean yeah, that was the one part of that. I didn't realize go on Yeah, cuz good so yeah cuz so now for Merlin, you know, he's still kind of I guess the same guy I even the Queen's gamut didn't go down. He would still be the same guy cuz he still wanted to blow up Yeah, all the four people so I guess that is my sense, but Sarah wouldn't be the same So we have a paradox So then if she agrees to do that she instantly wouldn't be in that situation to begin with and so I Wonder if Malcolm maybe doesn't care about time paradoxes. I mean honestly, he's not gonna be honest to Sarah anyway, and so of course she denies the offer and Science as you know, well, it's gotta be hard to you know deny that kind of stuff.

She's like yeah, sure I was tempted but like I learned from you dad I learned it from you Which is funny to me because oh the irony is just palpable delicious there because Stein's like I have this daughter And she's really be now and I'm not gonna get rid of her And then Sarah's like yeah, of course I'm gonna give up all this stuff It could be you know happy and super awesome because you know dr. Stein Wants me you know to do that and so that was pretty that was pretty neat That little interaction that they had there Yeah, that part was cool. Yeah, yeah It adds to the tension of when the eventual reveals going to come out, you know, and what they're gonna do there There's definitely some tension and I'm trying to remember now Does this time reveal his daughter? He reveals his daughter to her in that room, right?

Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes So he reveals his daughter and she's like well What we're gonna like eraser?

He's like, no, she's real to me. She's not real. She's totally is real. So here's the question is she real will yes or no?

Of course she's real absolutely Even though she's a time aberration again I'm kind of operating under a new idea that she's probably not but even still yes, of course she's really a time aberration makes them real I mean they've screwed with time so much already that you know Of course she's real The question like what is real right right? Yeah, like it's not like they're going back and trying to make John Diggles son of daughter Well, they're not doing that cuz they want kind of hock. They're like oh wait we could do this That was the plan all along I think was to have Barry Change baby Sarah into baby Connor. Yeah to make a baby counter hock.

Yeah, which it's like he already has a son you could just do it Yeah, yeah, but you know Kyle sweet. Do you think that the time aberration even though it's not normal in that part of time is she real? She's real she's real. Okay.

I mean she's definitely she's more she's definitely real to Stein. So yeah, she's real Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree like I think you know the memories are there and it's one of those things where it's like yeah It is long as the repercussions of having her in that timeline aren't terrible. Yeah, whatever. Wait a second We did the same thing last season Jack's has a dad.

Oh Yeah, didn't his dad survive? No, no his dad still died. What he means to me to his father. Yeah He gets the medium and talk to him and I thought he's I thought they saved him because they said if he makes too little of a ripple in history It's okay.

No, he's still it's one of those fixed points in time. Okay Yeah, well either way now Stein and Sarah know that they have a time I raise your other hands are gonna deal with eventually and our boys we have Vixen and Rory come up with a plan that I'm not jump too far ahead right big story come with the point to go rescue them as criminals correct Correct, right. Yeah, which was just super cool. Like what do you guys think about this villain Vixen?

Is this something you think they're gonna stick with? I think it's kind of cool. I think she's just she's just playing on that The dark side she's not gonna go full. Yeah, she's not gonna have she's not gonna go full baddie.

She can't Yeah, a lot of these people start you know, merging people for no reason But you know, maybe she uses her amulet to you know, break people's legs or something. I don't know In a very villainous kind of way, but so We have another great make line. I can't exactly what it was. What does he say about Nate and Roy and Ray when they're they just hijacked the car The it was Al Capone's shipment or whatever and they're about to drive off and it's like wait We gotta wait for a ray and eight and what did he say about them?

Oh, I don't remember It's I don't just gonna slow us down. It's like, you know, we're right outside, right? He's like, yeah, yeah That's what he says. Oh, yeah, they'll just slow us down.

You know, we can hear you, right? Oh Rory is becoming my favorite character on the show and it's making it. I think we should yeah, yeah But I think we should talk now just briefly before we continue with the plot of the episode the visions That makes me seeing this was this was interesting because I know we see that you know, it was teas catacoles coming back And then we see him come back, but it's in these visions. It's like it's a hallucination or something like that Kyle do what do you think's going on with these is this is a losing his mind did Gideon do this when she was messing with his head Because I guess the first thing I thought of right was when Gideon said how you don't have it tried and then we see this, you know, brain Mirage, which is a terrible word for hallucination The first other kid in my head is like holy crap to Gideon do that.

So I don't know what do you think? I I think it's just a mix subconscious being like, okay. No, I am I'm a villain. I'm a bad guy I'm a criminal I need to do this, but I'm also I'm also starting to become a good guy sort of thing So it's a subconscious being like, okay, we need to get back on that on that crooked path again Oh, I see what you're saying So like he's having an internal dialogue with him with himself in the fact that he's becoming more heroic And okay, so like part of his subconscious is like, no, we gotta be bad guys and part of them's like, I'm kind of thinking a good guy Yeah, okay, interesting.

Well, what do you think and you think this is a conflict of interest in his brain or is Gideon tweaking stuff? Or did he just do a lot of acid last time period there in I don't know for a while there I was sitting there going gosh, I just wonder if if they're like making If zoom is like bringing them in and out like I'm like because it was you know a little bit too real It seemed like something they would do to mess with Mick would bring Captain Cold out and everything is red Yeah, and everything we've read and seen said, you know, he is a part of the Legion of Doom So it's like so you're saying that Eobard is grabbing him from an earlier period of time bringing him aboard the ship to try to coerce him to betray the team or something like that or something else some other way They're doing it. I have a feeling that this is actually all part of the plan like I don't think I like maybe they have some way to Project to him You know that it's that it's what it is, you know that they're rejecting him to him As a hologram that only he can see in here from the future and you know mix right mix is there to right or wrong So he has a hologram that he can only see it here And so make finds himself going from life to life trying to put right what once went wrong and hoping each time that his next I Think that I have a feeling this is all gonna be found out to actually be real because some of the stuff he was saying You know Mick was more than just arguing with the self-conscious. He was you know actually like Having like deep rooted conversations and makes not insane.

So I do I think they were I think they were sending We're gonna find out that you know using some sort of technology They're actually sending you know, you know, or Leonard snart into you know, mix head to screw with him and prepare him to see a field turn on The legends so I mean that was my thinking So kind of like what they did with Chronos. Yeah You know, so oh that's true. He could have something in his head still from being Chronos where which lets him see crazy And it could even be the time masters. Maybe the time masters are back.

There's because remember, you know, that's how Leonard died So who knows? Yeah, that'll be interesting to see him full, but I will say this I think a make a great quantum leap would be amazing Please who's ever listening please someone make that just please make that as a picture The arising that one could light the world on fire in multiple time frames make Rory Went out into the desert and form project quantum leap Step into the quantum leap accelerator and vanished he woke to find himself trapped in the past facing your images that were not his own And hope and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better It's only guide on this journey is snart and observe it from his own time appears in a form of hologram that only Mick can see it here And so Mick finds himself leaving from life to life It's driving to put right what once went wrong and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home I like that show Yeah, no, I guess that was like that show too. You're reciting that correct. Yes.

Yeah, that's amazing I do a binge watch of that usually like once or if I'm sick for a few days, I'll be like I'll just watch more week It's a good thing. It's on Netflix. Oh, yeah, yeah, and now they're all on Netflix because they did skip a few and now they're all there Like they skipped a lot of the good ones like the first one wasn't there like the first episode was the boxing episode So you never saw oh, yeah, I saw the pilot. Yeah, the pilots there now it used to not be and what was the Elvis episode Because of the music they couldn't get on there and I still don't like that They don't put Georgia on there like Georgia's still not there when L is dancing with his wife Georgia my mind Georgia the end of season three or the end of season two when L when he leaves into like To any kid interact with Al's ex wife and he could have told Al's ex wife that he was alive After Sam leaves out Al's dancing with Beth to Georgia.

It's a very powerful scene. Welcome to quantum leap TV talk and For those of you who scored home we have had share TV talk tonight rocky TV talk tonight Presidential TV talk tonight That's that's a lot of that's a lot of TV talk a lot of voices in my head sir So speaking of voices in head we as we just talked about Mick and his voice is in his head for For snart it could be that maybe it's hologram. You don't know yet so that's gonna be interesting to find but so Rory comes up with a plan to go and say the rest of the crew and we get this we get Stein out and we get Sarah out but it's not Stein it is actually Eobard and Eobard is acting all super weird and everybody knows but nobody knows for some reason and So he decides he's gonna try and kill Sarah in the library thing and Jack's gets wind of this and sins good old commander steel go and say the library with the pitch for it with the pipe So we need it was Tim Curry. Yeah for real He's still alive right 2016.

Yeah. No, no, he just had a stroke. Oh, yeah He was rough as crimp. He was rough in that he was part of the new rocky.

Welcome to Rocky hardfire guys Rocky horror they put out if you like in October he played the part of the Knowledge us and it was rough It was rough to watch him do it because he had none of his like flare Pretty much had to sit and it was yeah It was like Dick Clark's rocket eve after he had the stroke where you're just like wow. Yeah, yeah See you So yeah, so we have Eobard on the ship now which is super dangerous because We'll talk about the announcement earlier with the Eobard being depowered He you know, he goes in for the attack and they managed to get Sarah out of the way But now he's going around the ship trying to find this this item But I feel like you could tear that ship part scour it head to toe up and down in You know a fraction of a second like I feel like if he was really trying to find that thing that he would find it very very very Quickly what do you guys think you feel like on the ship? You know he felt a little deep power because I had it you know, of course They had the McGuffin speedster gun which was nice which where did that come from by the way the that secret room that had the message? Oh, that was what a very like or I guess Rips secret room weapons.

Yeah, correct. Okay. Okay, so of course. Yeah, we got the McGuffin room So there's gonna be a speedster It has to be this is this is McGuffin TV talk Do you say McGuff take the bite on a crime dog Scruff McGruff Chicago, Illinois 6065 to give it to go by not a crime Welcome to ADHD theater Yeah Some reason the gruff crime song Yes, this is this Saturday morning TV talk Yeah, this is you know, we'll be like beat poets and we'll just say what is on the top of the head great Not really no one with the three listeners we have would be like not not anyway you know, they had the McGuffin gun sure but I feel like you could have scoured the ship a little bit faster and Find this amulet that he needs now at this this was the point where I was really struggling to retain consciousness Because of my perennial exhaustion from last night and having to work all day So there is a part that I remember where he gets the box with the amulet in it.

Yes, but it's empty correct Yes, correct. So what what happened now? What was the dealio? Mick will put it somewhere.

Sorry. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you so because It wasn't me it was her It was Sarah because she was one who gave it to What's a writer? Because she had she had mouth and dead to rights So she gave it and there's no way Mick would have given it up for you know cue ball professor or whatever he calls him Yeah, no, so it was definitely Sarah was Sarah's call Okay, so then Sarah swapped it out and they get the real Steinback from this trade, but The amulet is not there so they double they double crossed it.

Well, no the amulet was there they never the way they got Steinback was he was there he's searching for it he turned on or he took over the bridge and Open the cargo bay door which led in a bunch of gangsters. So now there's a gunfight using Tommy guns no less The the gangsters are there they're gonna try to kill everybody but obviously they can't and then Eabard can't find it and Malcolm Merlin is also part of this crew and he also gets on the bridge and Sarah jumps down from the top They have a monstrously awesome fight like if you miss the fight between Merlin and her Brutal like you're gonna want to go back and watch that I do I do remember seeing them fight I think I think I kind of like because the action scene sort of like jarred my consciousness back into action because I'm Ever seen them flip around and I was trying to decide whether or not the actress it's Katie lots right who plays Sarah correct Right because I know she's athletic and she has done some of these stunts before but I was trying to tell and because she has her hair How it is it's really long and flowy I was trying to tell if it was her doing a lot of choreography or there's what between I think it was her definitely not him. It's definitely not Malcolm Yeah, that was painfully obvious. No, it was bad like you know Barrowman's big and kind of burly and then they start fighting and she's fighting like a 98 pound weakling with a bad wig It was great.

Yeah, so it was almost like I you see the mid equilibrium you guys. Yes. Yes. I love that Fantastic super great super great spoilers for the mid equilibrium But at the end when John fights the the head grammaton cleric guy and they just paced like poorly paced CGI head of the head Grammaton cleric under like an obvious stunt levels body.

That's kind of what it reminded me of But yes, okay, we have epic fight scene continue continue and then at the end of that epic fight scene She gets him dead to right. She takes a blade and puts it on Malcolm's neck and you know, she's like where Stein He's like well, you know, it'll cost you and that's then it cuts to Stein standing on the dock Capone saying you know He's wearing some ad over shoes Capone's like to what is pretty like I've never killed a professor before and then the two guys the two guards get shot And she beats the heck out of Capone takes them off and she tells him she's like I traded the ambulance for you So No, it was there they traded the end you know what's there. Okay. Okay.

Yeah She's fully turning the ambulance which goes to then standing around they join the two pieces of the amulet together And it becomes this big map which is supposed to lead to the spear of destiny So okay, and that's the end of the episode. Yeah, you see the last part of the episode Nice part. Yeah, so we'll talk about last part before we get this speculation because I think you know, we let up right to that speculation But we got it we got to talk about this last little bit because I don't know what the hell's going on So we haven't seen rip hunter since the very first freakin episode of this show and now here he is in 1967 with an American accent filming a movie that American a lot Yeah, yeah, I was impressed I was looking there at first and I was like is that just to do they're trying to make look like rip hunter who's American or is that actually A funner and it was actually him very good accent And so he is filming legends of tomorrow what appears to be the legends of tomorrow movie and I don't know Kyle Do you know what's going on here? The only thing I know is that rip is rip has no idea who he is he is making movies of his life and That's what we're gonna pick up back in January Well, I think this should be time because I have an idea to that I mean we're gonna talk about what he is because he didn't tell us yeah, it should be a time Bell Okay, so so that's where the that's where the episode ends We have a 1967 rip hunter with American accent directing a movie with basically the legends so with that mind I think it's time versus speculation so what is up with American rip hunter?

This is he's a director He's not a time lord. He doesn't have any wait. He's not a time master time lords are British They come from Gallifrey. They travel in tardises.

Oh, I don't yeah It's a hoovian I am we're back. We're back. We're back. We're back.

We're back. We're back But if you're listening to do this show So Kyle what is what's going on here? What's going on here? Why is rip hunter American and a director and have weird he's he is he was at the beginning of season two he that time Thing that he did with the rest of the crew it hit him it somehow erased all of his memories or Captain that Bay I guess in order to remember him self.

So he's putting all of his memories into a movie So we can like repeat his life together via the magic of cinema. Yes, okay Will what do you think is this what I don't know I think honestly for this no and I don't think I think he knows Who he is I think he's pretending if he does it He's got some like he said he's got something to bring his memories back There was like a plot and if so would surprise me I mean that was a doctor who thing where at one point he pretended he was human by you know putting all of his essence into like a Stopwatch or something a pocket watch, but I mean he could have done that But I think he probably is just trying really to hide out either that or I wonder if it's not like rip hunters great great great great great grandfather Yeah, you know cuz that's what I was gonna say is that rip is from the future so he's back in the past So he must have arrived there somehow and if you arrive there somehow Well, he had everybody split up. Yeah, that's true. That's great.

None of that. They all had their memories when they went back, right? Right, right? So yeah, so you would you So do you think he is his own great great great great great grandfather?

It's possible But I think he's just hiding to be out, you know and part of what they were talking about being the ship Well, I think I think part of what they were talking about was he knows something about the superior of destiny like they need rip Hunter they said that that's why they showed us rip on her because at the end the villains are standing there and they're looking at The thing and then they're like spirit of destiny and it's can change reality as we know it don't get me started on that Because it's not exactly what it does but and rip hunters involves somehow so okay. Yeah, so he's hiding in 1967 and telling you know Maybe he's just telling stories of his adventures to make a little money and be you know productive But you know with that. I mean I just yeah, I'm not so sure it's he doesn't remember I think he remembers. I just don't think he's you know, I think he's trying to lay low So this isn't a quantum league situation.

We're not in the life of a director in the past. No, okay So before we get to the meat of this speculation, I want to talk a little bit This is something that I noticed I want to see if you guys noticed it as well Eabar was on the ship and he's about to do a death blow to I believe it was vixen and his watch went off Yeah, it was it was a Android Pevil watch because those have been Removed from existence now. Yeah, what was the what was the significance with that? There's obviously something there.

He has a timeline that he has to stick to and so he didn't you know killed him there They were saved by the bell and not not me. It's all right cuz I'm saved by the bell We can't in the 90s what do you expect I never watched the same by the bell like I'm pretty much calm man Yeah, oh man. I watch me just about head. It's that now.

I didn't watch me just about it It was it was too much for my young mind So yeah, what was the deal like is this was this something that I just missed because I you know I haven't slept in what feels like four weeks or did or was it kept a mystery as to why he left when his watch beat It was kept a mystery. Okay, so Kyle what is it that is so important that he has to keep a The Eabar has to keep a strict timeline and cannot go You know outside of the bounds of this of this thing that he's got set up What do you think it's related to the spirit as we talk about in a minute or is this something new? This is something like part of his plan that requires him to be on time I think I think it's part of his plan yet. We don't know of course yet what it is But yeah, it's it's part of his his foreseeable future plan So I was thinking that it might have something to do with his speed now We've seen this in flash season to where yeah, we get yeah, but we can get bouts of speed and you know You know they can steal the speed those you know hidden in the wheelchair And those kind of things and I'm wondering if this is something related to that where he has to go and recharge his battery So to speak every now and again, but then again I also wasn't sure if that was it or if it was something more on lines of you know That this plan has a specific timeline and timetable that they have to operate on So I'm kind of thinking that maybe it's something to do with his speed like a presence of the speed force because he's out of time And it seems kind of weird I don't know but that would kind of explain why he felt a little deep-powered because if he's not in touch with a negative speed For reverse speed force then that could explain why he's not as as fast or powerful as it should be Will do you have any ideas on that?

Not even I mean, it doesn't have something to do with his with the speed or is it part of the plan? That's probably part of the plan. I think I don't think he's being totally honest with his guys I think I think he knows I think he knows something that he's not telling them and I think he's you know Trying to head something off and he's like oh, you know, I'm not supposed to be here now So he ran off and like I think we're gonna come to find out that he's playing both sides to the middle or you know Maybe trying to make it so he never went back. I don't know but something like that He's got a different agenda.

I think than the other guys Interesting, okay. Well, and all this leads up to they get the both amylates They put them together and now we have this magic compass thing and supposedly this compass is pointing to the spear of destiny now I knew the spear destiny, you know, it's in Constantine. It's in biblical literature It's you know, it supposedly it's an actual physical object that appears inside of Christ I know those elements about it belong to Longinus also known as the lance of Longinus and At least in the historical aspect, but I don't know anything about the spear of destiny in the comics now that seems to be Obviously the comics interpretation of this so will what is the significance of the spear of destiny in DC comics? Well, it was used mainly in the JSA So I wasn't surprised to hear it because you know, they've kind of been in the side ground this whole time Mainly it was used as a way because they wrote the specter too powerful So it was kind of specter Kryptonite really was what it was a MacGuffin for Spectre Hitler got his hands on it at one point And then it was used again in current history again during an infinite or identity crisis no infinite crisis As a way to make Spectre, you know again to stop Spectre and do some weird stuff And that's how he got involved in he went into his last host and I can't remember that guy's name at all But yeah, it was Christmas Alan.

Yeah, Christmas Alan So it was all part of that It was you know, it was used in the day of Justice storyline when they brought Hal back and made him the Spectre for a while It's always been kind of this magic thing. That's kind of just around. It's cool. You know, it is what it is It's a MacGuffin and I mean writing rewriting history or reality It's not something it's ever been able really to do But since they don't have a Spectre and I imagine they don't want to try to go to the Spectre because you put a Spectre in this universe and you know It's you're why?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my thinking is you know They had to find a reason to do it. They could have gone with any number of other things, you know the orb of rock Yeah But well it is yeah, so then this is like in DC Comics at least because we really don't know the extent of its powers in legends But in DC Comics at least it's it's just a super big bad MacGuffin to deal with Spectre and other like very powerful entities like that right? It's powerful man advice. Yeah, okay, so Kyle What do you think legends what do you think the Legion of Doom is going to do with the spirit destiny like why what?

Where could they be going with this? They want to well for their say rewrite history. I think they want to rewrites all their past failures so where they are Always on top so where like you have our thought always defeats Barry Malcolm defeats Oliver and Daming dark destroys the world. Well, I think it goes I point I Want I think it goes different than that.

I think it's gonna go a little bit more micro I think Damien dark wants to stop his death from happening I think Malcolm wants to stop his son from being killed You know what I mean like the thing they dang was run a Sarah was re-changing her history so that she didn't lose anybody and Malcolm has never gotten over Tommy dying, you know, so I think they want to dance or things like that You're cutting out a little bit there. So but basically you're saying that so Eobard would want it to prevent his death right and Malcolm would want it to prevent his son's death right and Damien I think he was his end goal there Damien doesn't want to die either. Okay. Yeah, Damien dies.

Do you okay? Right? It's like don't forget these are three guys that died You know and then and then Leonard if they were doing snart and if they pull it like if that goes to my theory too It's starts. I mean they're all villains who have a reason to change reality You know personally not just right not just trying to rule the world, you know, but personal reasons to change their own reality Okay, so this isn't like a tool in which they can control reality and control the fate of the world and all kind of stuff This is just like, you know what?

I don't want to die. What about you? You guys want to die now? Let's go get the spear decently and let's make ourselves not die.

Okay. Well, I kind of like what Kyle was saying though with Specifically with Eobard right with Eobard being able because because Eobard hates Barry Allen so much And that would make sense for me what Kyle was saying to go back and make it so that Eobard never lost to Barry Allen I could see that but then again, you know, he does die and so that would be the one loss that you would want to prevent the most You're gonna prevent a loss to Barry Allen make it be the one where you die So interesting, okay, that would be that would be pretty cool So the Legion of Doom I think we're gonna see more and more characters that have been killed off in other shows coming to join it Is what it seems like that could be where they're moving with this Well, let's see. Do we have anything else to speculate upon for this episode? Kyle?

No No, well, I guess we did the Leonard speculation. I mean what we think Leonard is so yeah, I think we're speculated out Yeah, we're speculately earlier Well, let's do this. This is a mid-season finale. We you know obviously get one of those a year I feel like this was pretty good.

How do you guys rate this compared to the other mid-season finales that we've had or if you're watching them I'm flash and arrow and supergirl Where does it rate Kyle? Well yesterday's arrow was really good and then so is flash supergirl. I didn't realize was the mid-season finale last week So I'm like, I don't know I mean I think like flash and flash and arrow are atop and then supergirl and legends are tied Yeah, it's a cop out, but it's like that's how I that's how I do it. Yeah, I never saw arrow so I don't have a Oh, arrow is so good.

Yeah, I've heard really great things I'm probably gonna have to go watch it even out of order and just to see it But yeah, I flash definitely at the top up there for me supergirl I've seen a couple episodes this season, but I was really far behind and it felt kind of like we got out So I'm actually put legends above supergirl. So I'm gonna go flash legends supergirl and since I didn't see arrow can't really rate it But I would assume it would be above legends above flash But what do you think as far as overall compared to all the other mid-season finale so we got going so far? How do you rate legends? I think legends came in I saw pieces of air.

I didn't see all of it I didn't see it all the way to the end, but I was spoiled on that so and that's a great way to end a mid-season I mean last season they had the best mid-season cliffhanger I think with that, you know shooting a Felicity this year they they kind of went there again with something and it's kind of cool I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but it's cool Flash kind of left me a little it felt a little too much like a normal episode like it didn't feel like a mid-season finale Like it just kind of yet we jumped the future and we you know showed you this we dangled what's gonna come in five months But you know it felt like a flash forward it was Flash kind of left me a little soft to tell you the truth legends. I liked I did like this I feel like it kind of purples and I think the little bit at the end was rip You know like I guess that's what flash was missing it was missing that end two minutes of yeah the twist You know like even supergirl had that cuz her last two minutes involved her going to another earth So I mean I think it's got to go you know arrow, you know flash legends and you know supergirl For me well, it looks like we're out of time. No, we're not but hold on. We're not okay.

There's more But wait, but wait we have listener feedback. Oh, we do So I put it on our Facebook the other day first of all and we should also talk about what's gonna change here First of all with the change to Tuesday night legends is still gonna record our legends to me talk I think our show is gonna be a little bit better because we're gonna be able to watch it, you know a couple One or two times before we try to talk about it because it's gonna be moving to Tuesday at night's but we're still gonna record Thursday nights And Facebook sent us a question so I because I did I put that out there and this is from Ross again And he says hey Kyle crap Says hey Kyle. Hey, well my question is and he's British so I you know hold up. Hey Kyle.

Hey, well My question is do you what do you want to see happen in the upcoming episodes? We already know the episode time and since the finale is called Camelot 3000 Could this have something to do with the Legion thoughts and if you decide to read this out, please call me Ross Meanwhile, I told everybody it's on our Facebook page, so they're gonna get your last name Ross We're gonna call you Ross, but I'm just gonna put this out there right now. You're not exactly stealthy my friend not exactly Anyway, yeah, so I yeah, I saw this Camelot 3000. I Know it is a it is a comic that DC put it.

It's an awesome comic by the way, okay I knew you would know something about it well you had to him so I'm gonna let you go because like I don't know It's like our three legend, but in the year 3000 so that's all I know and I want to know about this because it sounds awesome Okay, and yeah, it was a comic put out. It was the first maxi series they ever put out okay, so It was the first one by DC. I think it was put out in like 82 But it went all the way to 1985 it was done by Mike Barr, which I think he went on to do arrow green arrow at some point And Brian ballerd who was the artist and he went on to do a bunch of Batman stuff And it was it was twisted it was King Arthur But basically part of the legend of King Arthur is is that he he will come back when Britain needs him again And so he wakes up in Three the year three in the 31st century or 30th century and he like the year 3000 and He basically he finds Merlin he finds Guinevere he finds the rest of them and Like they're some of them. Huh?

No, he like some of them were reborn in other bodies a few of them were reborn like the the legend of Tristan And he sold Tristan was born into a woman's body, but Tristan and he sold that a love that could survive anything So yeah, they like they had a relationship as two women So the aggressive for the 80s dude it was 82 they let him do almost anything And it was it was really good if you like anything about King Arthur It's twisted and messed up the entire thing. I don't remember the details of it because I mean I read it in the early 80s and I was young And I read it again. I think in like the late 80s and I was so pretty young But it was kind of cool. It was really really out there for what they do like, you know how gala had was really supposed to be an idol I idolized version of Christian like the Christian night.

He's like oh, Goldby praise and all that he becomes a samurai And he's devout adherent to Bushido They really did they went they went just like nuts and it's a great story now What if this means they're gonna go to the year 3000 and deal with King Arthur and the fact that there's gonna be lesbians involved I can't help but think that this is somehow that involves Sarah Yeah, it's just it's got a neat idea I mean it was a pretty it was an epic story was 12 issues It was the first time they tried to do a 12-issue series and and and Brian Balland I think lived in London at the time if I remember the story correctly So try imagine trying to deal with you know inner Atlantic communication like they couldn't send faxes in the 80s So everything had to be done by post. Oh wow. Oh, I mean yeah, seriously like it was incredible And it was a really good series really well written the arts fantastic So you know I highly recommend it but the thought of what they're going to do with legends for and this is supposedly the season finale I guess So it was came up 2000. Yeah, that's what he said.

I don't know he's like I think episode 12 is Camelot 3000 And I think they got more episodes now so I don't know they got those back for yeah So I don't cuz this I don't think you would want to do a Camelot 3000 to be the you know The season finale, but it's gonna be a great episode or it's gonna really let me down It's gonna do what those do we're all probably get on here and be like this just sucks. What the frickin you know But yeah, it was it's really cool read it if you can get it. I mean it's it's out there in some places And yeah real, you know or we did not friends wherever ever wherever comics are pirated Just kidding don't buy a record But yeah, I think and I wouldn't be surprised if DC will put this out for like digital download towards Oh, yeah, cuz I think they got to because this is too good of a story and again head of its time big time So highly recommend it. What do you think Kyle?

Did you know anything about this or I know nothing about it? I mean, I know I know a little bit of the Arthurian legend, but not I did not know that DC did something with it Yeah, look I think it's on Wikipedia. You can look up the article It kind of goes to do this because I did read a little bit of that today to kind of jar my memory, but ah, it's it's excellent guys It's excellent and it's it's very adult for its time I think it was one of the first it definitely was one of the first ones where they were trying to appeal to like it was Before the Teen Titans it was before The other books that they used to put out just for the comic stores like remember when Teen Titans went just to direct And they had legends of the Teen Titans where they would put on new stands because in the early 80s I don't know if you guys were around in the 80s comic stores only came around about 85 You know, 85 before every town had at least one like I read comics from the new stand I had to go to a new stand in town called Falvanos and picked up an issue You know, I picked up my issues like three weeks after the direct market got him so and new Teen Titans wasn't out for a new Stand I had to wait a whole year to get those stories, you know, I was like who's this night wing? So It was good.

It's good stuff, and you know, I highly highly highly recommend it You know, and you know, it's really good if you can get it somewhere like I had to read my cousin's copies I was it's an exchange. It was nice. Nice Well to answer Ross's question about what I would like to see specifically and the rest of legends I'm gonna say I want to see Camelot 3000. Well, what you're telling me it sounds freaking amazing So I'm telling you if you can find it if you can find it out there, you will thank me you'll be like ooh It takes a little bit to get used to and it's got a little bit of you know, it's not perfect It's not watchmen, but it was stepping.

I think this book allowed watchmen to happen. I really do I think this book allowed, you know, Alan Moore to kind of take it the next step Because they had already started talking about things like homosexuality and you know sexual preferences and you know religion And what it means and all that all these like higher concepts and it's sold pretty well. So Highly get highly recommend Actually, I'm definitely going to check that out. I'm gonna look at that.

I wonder if I can get it digitally off my DC comics app I'm gonna look at that. I'm not sure. I'm a kind of what do you mean? What are you looking for the rest of the season from legends?

I'm wanting more speechters I want to know why they want the spear of destiny so badly and I want captain cold back in flesh And blood no more illusions or anything like that. Captain cold flesh and blood now. Yeah, I can agree with that too Gotta get gotta get some some literature back up on this boat and camel out 3000 is available for digital download at a buck 90s Yes, you're welcome For me what I want for the rest of season is I want to see this Legion of if it's gonna be done well Okay, and that's gonna be tricky. I want this Legion to do them to kind of I'd like to see them be More ominous and more less mustache twirly and more thoughtful like if they're doing what I thought with the whole like projecting Letter to snart into his head.

That's a messed up brain good thinking stuff, you know like because otherwise today They just kind of see mustache twirly. They're like, oh, they fell for our plan. He he he he you know So I'd like to see that you know They're kind of always around and they're always kind of and I almost want to see a race like I'd almost like to see more I was hoping for more artifacts and Kind of like what happened with a JLA versus Avengers where they were showing up in places just to get these artifacts So that they could lead to something like it would just would have been neat if there were like five or six artifacts And you have to face you know You're racing against the Legion of doom to put these all together and you win some and you lose some of them You have to kind of to barter and you have to figure things out I kind of want to see them have fun with that concept I you know I just hope it isn't all like I said mustache twirly and I'd like to see them stop trying to put Marry not marry what the heck is her name in this one? I'm I I'd like to see cuz what they're doing is we've talked so many times on this podcast about them shipping Amaya and is she gonna be with Nate is she gonna be with a royal mech is she gonna be with you know who you know Ray Like she's kind of flirted with every man on the ship.

So either stop doing it like I kind of I'm shipping her and meck if I'm shipping anybody I loved it. I was like okay. Yeah, that was the best That was the best potential shift that they've done is with her and meck yeah, so I'd like to see them do that And I'd like to see them like I need we need right back on the boat I think he's a voice that they don't have and I want to see them more I kind of do want to see a more involved with their host shows like There's no reason they can't show up once in a while to you know star city or central city or you know that sort of thing Yeah, but I do that was that was it and we have no other Unfortunately, we have no other people right now who want to talk to us Well Ross, thank you very much for the feedback Ross. Yeah, we're looking forward to the rest of the season and Yeah, I want to see some cam on there's a lot of other stuff too.

Hopefully they'll build a litter But we won't we won't be back for until January 24th. Is that right? Right? Maybe we'll do one in before that or something Yeah, yeah, it will be something fun.

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