Seriously, you idiot, I've been figuring this out by now. It all started when Bo-Yord thought he'd get all the legends of podcasts in together. And those legends remember the ad-lives, so they'll have to find two new guys with no lives to take over. That's us.
Now, shows are all screwed up, but it's up to us to unscrew it up. But half the time we screw things up even worse. So don't call us heroes, or something else. We're legends TV talk.
Ah, seriously, who writes this crap anyway? Uhh... Straight up in the crab line and right into your ears, I'm Bell. I'm Kyle.
And I'm the writer. Hahaha! And this is Legends TV Talk. So, how are you guys doing tonight?
I'm doing fantastic, how are you? I must say your make impression is spot on. Yes, very well done. You imbued the words I wrote with the character, man.
I like Peter. I like Peter. It's so good. It's so good.
It's perfect. Well, what about you? Sorry. Oh, quite a funny evening.
Yeah. So here it is. There's a recording live on the YouTube's YouTube's. Yeah, caught some of our pre-show banter, which is hockey and Sam Kinnes and TV Talk.
Yes, apparently. But don't worry, I won't do it in the pressure in the air because I have to edit this. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah.
So, let's... You know what? I love our intro and I think we should just go right into this episode because it was a fun one. So, yeah.
I think it's time for History lesson. Alright, we're gonna take a little bit of history lesson. History lesson. Yeah, I'll record it.
I'll record something over that. That's nice. Alright, season 2, episode 11, Turncoat, directed by Alice Troughton, written by Green Godfrey and Matthew Mollah. Kyle, why don't you tell us what happens episode?
We'll do. When the Legends find a new time-everish and they learn the lesson. Let's try to do a time-everish. You said we'll do, so I thought you wanted me to do it.
Ah, I'm just kidding. Ah, I don't know. What a joke! I'm glad.
Okay. Professionalism. That's so profitable. See?
See? See? We didn't screw it up again. The lesson.
Screw it up. Yeah, Kyle, why don't you unscrew it up? We'll do. No, don't do it again.
See? We'll do. It's like Fire It Will, I duck. Alright.
Oh. Alright. When the Legends find a new time-everish and they learn they must travel to the winter of 1776 to protect George Washington and the American Revolutionary War. Unfortunately, things don't go as planned.
Forcing Sarah to send out Nate and Amaya to help. Meanwhile, Jackson Stein, who are busy protecting the disabled wave rider from their new enemy, are forced to step into roles that they do not think they are prepared for. Bam! There it is.
We gotta find a way to unscrew that up. Yes, yes we do. There's a lot to unscrew up in this episode. So yeah, the episode starts out.
Our boy. Really, right now, Rip Hunter decides to go and murder General Washington. So you don't do that. There's a lot of things that kind of rely on him being alive.
I kind of hoped that what they would do is they would sort of kind of go into this alt history that they had just made and kind of talk about it a little bit on the ship. But they got a 45 minute run time. They got to get into it. But yeah, so Rip murders George Washington.
Obviously it's a trap. Obviously. This is another thing too. I'm so glad that Sarah was like, yeah, this is totally a trap.
Because how many times in shows is it like, oh, let's go save this thing and they don't realize that trap. Obviously the trap. I mean, right? Right.
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, why would you kill George Washington if not to some of the legends to wherever you are? Right.
Because everybody else has done like kind of weird stuff like release zombie things in the Civil War and kill a samurai guy. Yeah. Yeah. But this was pretty up there.
So this probably changed history quite a bit. Plus with machine guns too. Yeah. Totally reminded me of Time Cop.
Anyone else? I love Time Cop. I know it's the greatest movie ever, right? Well, it's time five.
Never been that straight out of the entertainment. It's been a bit of a disdain. It's better than Star Wars. It's better than everything.
Time Cop is the best movie that's ever been made. If you like terrible movies. Yes. And I love terrible movies.
They're so good. Anyway, so we have a total time cop situation here where Rick kills George Washington and then gives a bunch of AR-15s to the British soldiers. And they go through this training, not really a montage, but it shows them shooting at straw dummies of people. And they learn how to use fully automatic weapons, which is pretty cool.
So yeah, total time cop scenario. And yeah, so now the legends have to deal with this, which is a technologically superior British army defeating the American rebels as you were. But yeah, so we get the call, Sarah realizes that it's definitely a trap. And it's not like they're not going to save George Washington, right?
I mean, you kind of have to do that. So they make you the other $1 bill. I know, right? I know, you know, Mick actually mentioned that.
They talk about, you know, Mick's like, whatever George Washington. That's right, I'm thinking about it. He's on the $100 bill. You know, I would think that Mick would respect Franklin more than Washington just because he's on the $100 bill.
I bet he knows nothing else about bin Franklin other than the fact he's on the $100 bill. So this whole episode was very Mick good. Yeah. Yeah.
So okay, this is what I wanted to ask you guys. We had a different intro last episode. We had a different intro this episode. Have they had different people narrating the intro to begin with?
Because I started with Rep and then it moved to Stein and Stein did it while Rep was gone. And then yeah, this past week, they've just started rotating. But Stein said the same intro, right? Right.
Right. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. Okay. Yeah.
So I got started rotating. Yeah. So I got started for compromising the Chicago way. Okay.
Okay. But they always have said it the same way until the villains came in and took it. Or maybe it's the villains are kind of like a masking it just because I mean, if they had given it to make beforehand, he would have said this, I'm sure. Right.
Yeah. Well, I think they're kind of doing like the firefly thing like firefly did that. Yeah. Well, you know, some weeks they had Shepard do it, some weeks they had Mal do it.
You know, they would rotate and be like, here's how it was. First got used up. But they always said the same thing and they just rotated. No, they had different things for how they would say it.
Okay. Okay. Because like Shepard's last line was like, you know, your job was to find a crew. Keep flying.
And Mal's was like, you know, got a good crew. We could help you do any job no matter what it is. Okay. Well, anyway, I firefly.
Firefly. Welcome to firefly TV time. But this intro is definitely the best one I've ever done. And this intro to our podcast was the best one we've ever done.
Absolutely. So yeah, we had to match that. Anyway, back to the task at hand, we have a heightened alert team of the game. Of legends going back in time to save George Washington.
Nevertheless, they still get ambushed because they don't know at this point that rip has been abducted and brainwashed by the Legion of Doom. And so, uh, Sarah gets shot, which now here's a question that I have for you guys. Why didn't rip just go ahead and kill her right then and there? Good question.
He's probably got just some of his, uh, memories still locked away. Probably why. He didn't like really shoot jacks. Yeah.
Yeah. So we'll speculate on that a little bit later. You know, that's one thing I kind of noticed right there at the beginning. He's like, well, he of art was like, kill everybody.
And he clearly didn't do that. So it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, something's going on there. It's pretty, pretty interesting. Um, so, so, but this device that rip had some kind of EMP device, I'm assuming is that's how Jack's describes it.
Right. Disables the ship, disables the atom suit, disables the fire storm matrix, disables, uh, I guess nothing else. Right. Well, I said the ship.
You might have a ship. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that was, that was kind of a neat, uh, it's sort of like often, you know, when we talk about the numerous times, like how they're going to prevent them from becoming firestorm, it's almost a trip at this point.
It's like, what, what will they use to make it so that, uh, Stein and Jack's can't be firestorm this episode. And that's what we do now. Yeah. And if I were rip, I would, or the Legion or whoever, I would always have one of those things on hand for that sole purpose.
If for no other reason, then just be like, you know what? Firestorm's a nuclear powered superhero. Uh, we don't want to deal with that. We can kind of kill everyone else pretty easily just because, you know, they don't really have super powers.
And I think they wish they had done all the flame on his head, like they had figured out some other way to do it. Because that's literally what it is. Yeah. It's the flame on the face.
It's, you know, I bet you they really wish they'd found some way around that. Yeah. Uh, and then, you know, the, the flying, you know, coming out of the hands and stuff like that. But you know, I think if you animate that, you could reuse the stuff that you have, hitting on the, on the shot, I would assume.
But, but I, but here's another thing too, it's interesting. So because Ray uses this device, uh, uh, uh, Adam is, is now stuck in his little miniaturized mode as they go to go say George Washington. Uh, he was in miniaturized mode because he was supposed to like, you know, recon and stuff like that. And then he went off and now he's stuck that way.
This is something that I noticed, uh, you know, and, and skipping ahead here, Sarah gets, uh, shot George Washington gets captured with Mick by Ray, uh, rip, not Ray. It's like, why is Ray capturing people? And so we get back to the ship and, uh, you know, Ray is in, is in miniature mode, but I noticed they animated his suit. Triggy.
It was cold outside. Okay. Very cold outside. Which way did you talk about that?
Yeah. I didn't realize I did that. We'll talk about that later. So, so this is, you know, talking more from like a budgetary standpoint, things like that.
I thought when he was going to get stuck in miniaturized mode that they would just green screen him onto the table. Right. And, and save some production costs there, but instead I guess, you know, since we're not doing fires, no, because of them, and, uh, like, like these things, uh, why not just, you know, animate Ray. So that was, uh, that was interesting choice, I suppose.
Um, but of course now we have the problem that Sarah is shot and cannot be saved by Gideon's magical healing chair, McGuffin. So, uh, he's not going to be a doctor. He's a doctor, but, doctor, but, uh, yeah. So, so now we have a, uh, a crisis here among the crew.
Um, it's since it's dealing with, you know, the US revolution, we almost say that they're having a constitutional crisis. Oh, really? That was a good one. Yeah.
So, uh, we, we have a bunch of people on the ship who now have to take on roles that they weren't normally prepared to do. Of course, uh, Nate and Bixen are going to be the ones to go out and actually try and save Washington and save, uh, Rory. So they're all. And, yeah, say, say George Washington and save it cheerleader who in this case, who in this case is, is Mick and then save the timeline.
Right. Yeah. What a weird prophecy. Save the world.
What if Nostradamus, one of his things have been like save, uh, dothagie cheerleader be saved, ye, world. And then he didn't know what a cheerleader was. Anyway, I digress. Um, so yeah, so Nate and Bixen hop up the ship, but now we have Captain Jack's Sparrow.
He'll get you high tonight. This is a town. I didn't expect a role. Michael Bolton.
Oh, yeah. We should get Michael Bolton on the podcast. Oh, yeah. I'm sure he's not doing anything.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just not a very, a valetine, uh, they got Netflix. Oh, I can't watch it. I'm not even kidding. I, I, you know, I saw a word with that and I thought it was a joke.
That's just it. I think they, I think it's completely firmly tongue and planted in cheek. I think I have a feeling it might be actually good. Well, that's the thing I like about Michael Bolton these days is that he can, you know, make fun of himself.
He gets it. Yeah, he totally gets it. Like, I thought that was, did they actually make the special? It's just a tongue and cheek sort of thing with him or is it just a joke that they put out?
It's with him and I think it's just, I think he's just, you know, that's awesome. He's just laughing. Yeah. That's all the way to the bank.
I mean, that's about it. Okay. Gosh, I wish I was like an 80s watch that person and somebody asked me, Hey, do you want to make fun of yourself and make a million dollars? Yes.
My drugs are gonna buy themselves because I am a watch that's a baby's person. So chances are I'm probably on drugs. Now I'm thinking about his office space. Oh, well, Michael Bolton.
Everything goes by. Everything goes by. So that's how I'm starting to make records. Why should I change?
She's the one who sucks. Why can't we call you Mike? All right. This is office space.
We are just going off the rails and I don't mind. Yeah, you know, it's kind of to represent how history would have been messed up if George Washington was killed. This is how our podcast we messed up if George Washington was killed. Absolutely.
You know what the rails all the time, apparently, I don't know. So all the time. So we have some roles here that Jackson that Stein and Ray have to adopt in order to fill this vacancy that's been made with Sarah being shot and wounded and without, you know, magical modefins to heal her. You know, this is what they have to do.
So we have Captain Jack Sparrow and we have medical Dr. Stein, not physicist Dr. Stein, medical Dr. Stein.
So there's this thing. David Jack's about physicists, not a doctor. Exactly. Oh, why did they say that?
No, it didn't perfect. They did say that. Oh, they did. Wow.
Wow. Good. Yeah. And then he's not going to be able to do that.
And then all Stein has to do is say, yeah, you can. He's like, yeah, I can't. Totally can do it. And then was I the only one who got the Home Alone sort of vibe from this thing when he's booby trapping the ship?
Yes. I was totally within that. And I was like, this is, this is, this is their Christmas episode. Yeah.
Yeah. So I think that's part of it. I have no doubt in my mind that was part of what they were going for. So also why play your Christmas episode in February?
I figured this out. Oh, nice. They did not intend to have the hiatus. Really?
Think about it. We're three weeks after, or two weeks after the hiatus now, three weeks after the hiatus now. They would have had one or two episodes between now and Christmas. This was supposed to be a Christmas.
They didn't plan on having a hiatus because they didn't have one last year. That's crazy. Think about it. It is.
It would have fit like where they went off the air in November, three weeks later would be appropriate for Christmas episode. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.
And by that time they got the extra orders. I think so I think that's what they did was they were like trying to buy time to get the extra two or three episodes in. Ah, so they had to take a hiatus because yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.
That makes sense. And Mick, but they have a funny line where they figure out where they're going and they'd ask Vixen, you know, hey, how did you? Did you summon your like Wolverine tracking skills in a different property altogether? But I was kind of going with the animal and then I made it out.
So I was like, wait, hold on. That's an actual guy in the comics that I'd be using. Anyway, she said no because Mick is a genius and just leaves rappers everywhere and crumbs everywhere. So they're easily able to follow the bread come trail to the candy house or tent where they're being cooked in another by an evil British witch.
Okay, that's different. Well, you know, history changed because of which was yeah. But, but no, so they find out where they're headed, but they get ambushed by who are these people? They were.
I don't know. How did you know they were? I don't know. But I thought like when that happened, I thought it was the the Native Americans because I would have made a lot of sense.
Yeah. I think yeah, I don't think they actually really explained it because I'm sitting there. I see the tomahawk at the tree and you know, for my first instinct is to go, oh, there's you know, Native American and came up that they came across and so they're, you know, gonna get these people out of it. But then I forgot that, you know, they use tomahawks and stuff in the battle and I see these dudes, you know, European dudes or whatever come down.
So were they members of the were they colonists? Were they soldiers in the continent army? They didn't look like soldiers or were they just like bandits? Will they get me an idea?
I mean, I was kind of confused as to where these dudes came from and why they're kind of like chilling. And by chilling, I mean attacking our legends. I just get the feeling they were, you know, British regulars and he was because he said later on, you know, I have a colonel who's ahead of his time. Yeah, no, no, no, those are the British people.
I'm talking about when Nate and Vixen are tracking Mick and into the world. Those guys, they jumped them. Yeah, I get the feeling they were just guys who jumped people. Just just jumpers.
They surveyed purpose, which was to get them to take their clothes off. Ah, they're plotting. That's where I'm heading here. So yeah, it turns out they're most likely plot devices in order.
Like they say, they're like, yeah, because you know, the CCCW and you got to ship something. So, uh, Novixen or Vate, what are we going to call this? Nixon? Yes.
I like it. I like it. Let's go with it. Let's roll in.
Nixon. Hashtag. And then when they took their clothes off, they were dick nicks. Nevermind.
Too far. Too far. I realize now I've gone too far. So, uh, yeah.
So basically, you know, they jumped and then, uh, Nate falls into a river, but I thought the Delaware was like really flat and I don't know why there's rivers there, but whatever. Again, plot device for the naked and I'm reading. But yeah, so they had this moment where, you know, the hypothermia, that is, that is a real thing. You know, this is going to contact for hypothermia is the best way to, uh, to warm somebody up.
And I'm going to go outside and roll around the snow. There's no here. It's like 45 degrees outside. I hate you.
Yeah, there's no snow here. It's, it's like seven degrees, but it's going to be like 45 degrees tomorrow. I hate you all. How much time has my polar?
Yeah. Well, Texas doesn't have seasons. No, but you do have bushes. Oh, oh, hey.
That's a lot of them. Did you do a good job though on Sunday? He did. Oh, you told me these clubs.
Yeah. Well, I'm just talking about you. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Political TV talk. Sports TV talk. Poly sports TV talk because you can go with that.
Anyway, uh, so I heard you like to go both ways. Anyway, going on. Oh, oh. So we have Nate and we have Nixon hashtag Nixon for their trip.
They're kind of, you know, because they talk about dating when they're tracking them beforehand and then, you know, Nate explains how they do it. The whole day is it's just casual and fun and, um, and they were trying to work around saying Netflix. Yeah, that's chill. That's chill.
That's like chill. Get to Netflix. Hey, we just scream video services and. Yes.
Which, yeah, it's a social. That was kind of interesting there. They had this sort of, you know, gotta ship something mentality. So now we have this Nate Nixon thing.
He's kind of explaining because she's old school for sure and he knew school and, um, he's also extremely relaxed after he's intimate because he kind of forgets the mission to say George. Yeah. Yeah, the mission is say George Washington. He's like, oh, we got time.
We can, you know, go one more. And she's like, no, we gotta, we gotta save the future while our clothes dry. We can fill around, but now that our clothes are dry. So it's George.
So he feels hypothermia even when he's metal. Well, as did he walk through fire, those good. Cool. Yeah, but I don't know.
I like, I remember Colossus was able to like be in space for crying out loud. You know, it's like, that's marble. This is the animal. I know.
Well, get it. It could be that, you know, he fell off the cliff and then like when he hit the water, you know, maybe in order not to sink in drown, he turned off his powers. Oh, that's genius actually. Yeah.
That would explain a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he breathe.
Colossus doesn't, right? Nope. Nope. Colossus don't breathe.
They don't eat either. No. Yeah. I don't know.
I'm just going to assume that, you know, it was like, well, I can't just, you know, it's cold and I can't stay at the bottom of the sink forever. So he turned off his powers, float up to the surface and that's when that's when that's when that's when that's when they saved him. And so, yeah, so they are now doing the hanky-panky in the tent of the people they just murdered. I don't know.
And yeah. So now they, they're back on task, but we have at the moment, medical Dr. Stein and Casio Jax Sparrow are under assault from rip and his band of red codes who are now sieging the wave rider with grappling hooks and they're pulling open a futuristic. Pulling open the door.
Yeah. Yeah. How does that make sense? I don't know.
Kyle, I was hoping you could take that. I mean, it is, it is rip. So technically it does work like that, but he should have codes to get into the ship, which if they're smart enough, which riders come on, they would have changed the codes. But how would he edit it with every power?
Well, that's true. So there's no power. But back to your point, Kyle, he is ripped. Maybe he would just rip the doors open.
Oh, wow. Yeah, that's pretty bad, don't we? But so, you know, while this is going on like moments before we had Jax kind of take that leadership role and you know, he's like, no, medical Dr. Stein, Dr.
Stein medical man. I don't know. You will fix Sarah. I will booby trap the ship and Ray will crawl through the conduits and booby traps.
That's not sad. It's a booby traps. Booby traps. Yeah.
So, yeah. So then Ray will fix everything by crawling through the conduits and doing stuff. So they're under attack by rip. They get on the ship and then we have our home loan style sequence of booby traps and various different things.
And this is where they missed the most golden opportunity ever. It's when Jax has the present on the table, which if I'm a guy from 1776 and I see a box and it says Ho Ho Ho on it, I wouldn't know what that is. Yes. I also would know what the word douchebag would be.
But you know what, it makes perfect sense because I was like, what is all this stuff? So I think it was a proper distraction. And so Jax's distracted and they get into a tussle and Jax defeats him and then rip comes in. The red coat's unconscious with the Santa hat on and it should have said on his chest, I have a machine machine gun.
Ho Ho Ho Ho. Ho Ho Ho. And if rip had said that put on his best Alan Rickman, it would have been perfect. Really would have been.
Yeah. I thought it was gonna. Yeah. I thought it was gonna.
Yeah. I'm like, oh, they're gonna do it. Now I have a machine gun. Ho Ho.
Oh, yeah. Oh. It was failed. You know, a big fail there.
But you know, we got something else that was kind of neat. And this was set up at the very, very beginning of the episode. Ray is complaining to worry that he just eats and he leaves crumbs everywhere and it's terrible. And so there's a rat now that they have, and this rat could have bubonic plague.
I mean, they've been all over history because that was, you know, that makes sense, right? You know, I would be terrified of a rat. Especially a rat that's like out of time. You know, it's like time rat.
It's crazy. Gotta get that in time. And so now we have Ray, who also is taking on overall outside of his comfort zone. And that is that of a rat catcher because he's being chased by a giant rat.
And I thought that was a neat little payoff there that they set up at the beginning. But you know, of course, they have to have some kind of conflict for Ray to face while he's crawling through these pipes. Of course. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So ends up rip corners. Jack's, Captain Jack Sparrow, as I should say.
Jai. Sorry, I love Billy Joel. Yeah. You know, he basically, okay, now my brain is kind of twisting things here.
The first offers him the, hey, you know, the Legion of Doom. They're gonna reward me if I do this and we can fix time. We can get your dad back. That's what he does first, right?
Yeah. So he offers them. He's like, hey, look, just tell him what the spirit is. I'll let you guys go.
No way has to die. And I'll get your dad back. Jack's, of course, being Captain Jack Sparrow. Says no.
I'll get your right hand man back. Sorry. I know the Hamilton references are flash, but watching didn't capture my rip hunter. Yeah, I was thinking about like throwing in some ham and stuff.
They threw one in. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.
Like if without Washington, we don't have Hamilton. Yeah. That was pretty funny. But yeah.
So, so, you know, Jack Captain Jack Sparrow, he resists the temptation to his dad back because he is now the captain, acting captain. And they, they, they, they, they tell us what they fight and then he hides him before a bit and he's chasing him around. But rip finds the, I guess infirmary and just, I guess it's not just standing in the head because it's an old man. And he's, and he's, and he's, you know, going after a poor, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So he's sitting there choking her and he, you know, Jack's Captain Jack Sparrow can't do it. He can't pull the trigger. And so what is old rip do he kills Sarah again. And she dies.
Like yeah. This poor woman. Yeah, this poor woman dies twice. Oh, she does his die.
Apparently when she's not like being a captain dead or it would seem so. So yeah, like, you know, it was kind of crazy to me because I thought that, uh, I thought that, uh, that, uh, you know, ripped it a good job. What is the actor? Arthur.
Yeah. Arthur, Arthur, yeah. Or I like to call him Rory. He'll always be Rory.
I'm sorry. But we already have a Rory's that's confusing. I know it is confusing because I'm too like, I'll be Rory sometimes. I don't mean to.
But it's Doctor Who. Yeah, it's true. So Arthur, I thought he did a great job when he's sitting there talking to Captain Jack Sparrow and he's like, you know, you keep saying her name is that that means anything to me because I'm sitting there thinking, okay, this is going to be the sort of like pseudo redemption moment where he doesn't kill her and he just walks out. Right.
He doesn't kill her out right earlier. So I'm like, well, maybe he's not all bad, but no, he just straight up just, you know, does her hand right there, kills her. And so it's like, huh, weird. It's, it's, there's a lot of mixed signals with, with all, you know, Captain Rip and some, I'm curious to see what they're going to do with it.
But, uh, eventually we have, uh, Ray the Ratcatcher does what he's supposed to do flips the switch, which I mean, he seems like he took a really circuitous route to get to that switch because you would figure like maybe there'd be an access somewhere nearby and he could kind of squeeze the route, but you know, whatever, whatever. So getting it's turned on, we have Armaguffin is fixing up Sarah, but that's before Captain Jack Sparrow goes and chases Rip Hunter out of the ship with a flintlock pistol that he is going to use to jump and will. Yeah, one shot. Do not miss your chance.
Wow. But you know, uh, he's not throwing away his shot. That's true. The 10 dual commandment state.
Yes. But so, so will, do you think he would have done it? Yeah. Yeah.
I think he was mad enough. You know, he was emotionally when he started bringing up his dad. Yeah. He was a guy that was a violation.
Jack said no intention of doing it, but he's looking at him going, you know, how dare you bring up my father? Like this is going to make me turn. Yeah. You know, yeah, he was, he was emotionally.
Yeah, he was going to do it. He's going to take rip out. So Kyle, what do you think? Go down.
He was your head shut up. He then it wouldn't have changed anything. Rip would have died and he would not have had the chance for his dad to come back and Jack's would have gone down that dark path. Yeah.
Then everyone just loves to go down and never come back. Yeah. That trophy path. Well, you know, luckily in this situation, though, we did have Sarah come right the last second and sort of dissuade him from doing that.
And so it made me think too, like what we talked about last week, like this is yet another person who if they use the spirit of destiny, we'll have something like now we have a shipful of people who want something to fix. Vixen's going to want to fix our man dying. You know, Ray may want to bring back his ex-girlfriend, his fiance there. Gene.
It's Gene Lorring. I love it. You know, I think it was, you know, what's the mind? I don't know what it was.
Yeah. Well, then he's going to make it so that Amaya doesn't love our man. Yeah. It's going to be all of these.
I mean, they're setting up this ship up with, you know, it's time wants to save his daughter. Now, Jax wants to save his dad, you know, Sarah wants her sister. This whole ship's full of people that would love to change reality, make wants to bring, you know, Snartback. Yeah.
I think that's happened in this season. I really do. Which sucks because I like the new Black Canary more than the old one. Oh, gosh, the one they just, I've watched the last two episodes of Arrow today.
No day. She's awesome. Is she really? She's everything you want to Black Canary to be.
She's turning this diner. Black Canary. Which, you know, yes. Called an age Black Canary.
Oh, nice. Yeah. She was done. She was a lance, which is funny.
But, but I mean, be that as it may. So they may not bring Sarah's sister back. I don't know because she's working out, but I could see where this kind of builds this whole drama of like, now we have this thing that can fix everything for everyone aboard. Rip gets his kids back.
The whole nine. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's a speculation.
Yeah. It's kind of speculation. But I kind of I'm near your sentiment and I'm wondering if they're going to pull off one of those wishmaster style things where you please tell me you guys to see wishmaster. Dude, you haven't seen sneakers.
I don't see a wishmaster. Wishmaster's so good. So it's a really it's like one of those. Like bad good movies, but I think it's awesome.
I think it's great. And so eighties flick, right? Eighties nineties, I think. Or late eighties early nineties, like that.
And basically there's a stock worker and he's drunk and he drops his crate, crashes his dude and like this little gym comes out and that has the genie in it. And he grants you wishes, but there's like those kind of things where it's like, I wish had a million dollars and then, you know, he takes the million dollars from the back of a truck and then gets killed or whatever. Yeah, the whole Faustian deal genie that that he is. And so he has this just trail of all this bad stuff that happens because the girl doesn't want to do the three wishes and die.
The girl who finds the amulet. So what she does is she makes her last wish be that the guy who was drinking at the docks that day for him to be sober that day. And so by virtue of that, he never drops the thing and she kind of fixes the whole continuum. And so I'm wondering if that's if you know, because you're right, Will, everybody wants something to be fixed.
Now, is there at some point where everything can be fixed by them doing that? I don't know. Because that would be I think because everybody on the ship, I mean, I don't know how the staff works. The spear works.
But if it's, you know, you can only do it once or if you can everybody can kind of do what they want and change it. You know, one at a time. I don't know. But I'm curious if there's going to be an event that they decide to do where it's like, you know what?
If we go back and we fix this one thing, everything will be fixed. Right. So that could be interesting. But yeah, so that's kind of more of speculation.
But I will finish up what happened here in the episode. We have a George Washington and Mick kind of like have this awesome camaraderie where, you know, he teaches George Washington's all about honor and everything and Mick's kind of like, you know what, let's just, you know, escape because why shouldn't we die? That sucks. I don't want to die.
So, you know, he teaches George Washington. Let's be sneaky. Let's, you know, shoot people in the trees, which is interesting because those are some of the tactics that they use in the Revolutionary War towards the end was this war of attrition where, you know, the US or not the US, but the colonies weren't going to win. Just straight up field battles.
So they would disrupt supply lines, snipe commanders, which is a real big no-no back then, and just do this sort of guerrilla warfare and eventually the bridge like adds to bands. So they just leave and they get this country. And here we are today. But yeah, you know, 200 or something years later.
Yeah. Cheetos. George Washington. Do a Cheeto.
But that's the thing here and there. George Washington's coming home. It must be nice. It must be nice.
It must be nice. It must be nice. It must be nice. It must be nice.
How do we not have to watch this episode just doing Hamilton references? Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. It's a shame.
It's a shame. So we have a nice, you know, Washington goes back. It turns out that the love letter that he wanted to make to give to his wife was actually his battle plan. So it was like, why don't you deny?
He's a sneaky dude. And so everything's peach keen. History is going to be really freaking weird because I guess Washington never crossed the Delaware on Christmas Eve yet he still managed to defeat the British and their statue in Philadelphia of Jane Cobb, which is looking for you. It looks like one could take him as Jane's town.
This must be what going mad feels like. Yeah. So that's going to be kind of interesting when they go back to 2016. I can imagine, you know, when they fix the timeline and Captain Coles back for some reason in Philadelphia and they're walking by and like Leonard just kind of stops for a second and he looks up at the statue and he looks at Mick and he's like, huh.
And they just keep walking. But yeah, so we have a nice Christmas dinner which is weird because it's February. But then again, as well as one earlier, you know, they didn't expect the hiatus and so that's probably why we have that here. And you know what?
That kind of leads into this episode. So now I think it's time for some speculation. It's time. And I think the first thing to talk about is what's going to happen next week is have this nice Christmas dinner.
Where do we go from here? Where do we go from Christmas dinner? And there's some gifts exchange. You know, a couple things we got some Ruby slippers.
Are we going to continue this? We'll get the CWE stuff out of the way first. Do you think this Nathan Nixon thing is going to happen or is it going to be kind of like Nixon's administration and it's going to be in a piece of the process here and they're going to be removed from power. Kyle, what do you think?