About a year ago, a podcast was created bringing all of the DC TV talk shows together. They were organized with one purpose, to discuss the new CW show DC's Legend of Tomorrow. But then they left to do their own thing. Bell was tasked with finding new legends, and after searching Hangulow, he had to take the first two listeners who offered to help.
That would be us. We're not professionals. We're not heroes. But we are.
Straight out of the timeline and right into your ears, I'm Bell. I'm Kyle. And I'm Will. And this is Legend of TV Talk.
Bell is, how are things on this glorious late recording Saturday morning? Cold. It's awesome. Yeah.
So, yes, it was 70s, like middle of the week, and it is now 29 degrees and it has snowed. Really? We took it one there. I feel bad about that.
Really, I don't. So let's see here. It's 51 in Austin today. It was 80 yesterday.
And so the high today is going to be 65. I'll take the 65. Well, sure. You're joints are, you know, creaking because it's almost frozen.
40 degrees in one day sucks. Sucks. But anyway, does suck. Yeah, speaking of sucking, sorry we were not able to record earlier this week on our normal lease.
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He was being killed by monsters, but he killed them all and now he's back. I was fighting the Sinestro Lantern, best hotelis. Oh, yeah. Or popping our dick.
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I did do that. But you still have to level after thing. Oh, okay. So I got to see our 100 so I'll have to like, I guess that makes sense I don't want to bring you up at the top tier of the game because then what you do know.
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No Carvel Carvel Reginal take yeah No, I think like a turkey So they're called Carvel there's ice cream down south called bluebell well, there's that too, but is that you no No That the live thank you for joining us on sexual in window TV talk Larry with me as always Dingo and the baby How's that traffic report flying Mike will fly my kids pretty back up Oh That's not gonna go away is it clearly Crazy we're dreamed mornings this is before I've had my you know six shots of whiskey I thought we were supposed to drink like we do during the show so I've already started Well Anyway, you know what all of that was a show this week. Yeah, this is let's see me talk and I think it's time for history lesson All right, I'll pause for some interest of yeah, we still don't have one yet. I'll make one okay Season two episode 12 Camelot 3000 or should I say Camelot slash 3000? Yeah, directed by Antonio nigrette and written by Anderson McKinsey will once it tells what happens episode Well the legends continue their quest to hunt down the spear of destiny before the pieces fall into the hands of the Legion of Doom The legends discover that pieces of the spear are each being guarded in different time periods by members of the missing JSA Their first stop is the future where they find dr.
Midnight which eventually leads them to the past in King Arthur's Camelot Where star girl is protecting her piece of the spear in order to protect the spear shard from the now evil rip hunter The legends must join forces with the Knights of the round table Those are the Knights Brilliant and I kind of felt that way about the Knights in this one, especially Special Ray, you know, it's like yeah, so Ray the poems. Yes, sir. I don't know where your Adam suit out in front I'm a future Knight, but I don't know yes, he's too good Am I the one that saw two certain items of palms? Yeah, like I'm like well, he's the one who keeps losing the girl so But I don't understand that reference Never mind Yeah, so I don't know overall thoughts on this episode before we kind of go into the whole bit of it I mean I was really whole I was gonna stop really bad, but I was hoping Sarah at the end didn't get with the Queen Well, no, it's just like I don't want that trope to be like okay every time there's a Yeah, yeah, but but I think I just do it.
I mean why not star girl or yeah well star girls got King Arthur Lady King whatever whatever it does make sense in the end when you think about it Lights a lot does get with quite a beer so Sarah plants a lot to get a lot of air Sarah Lance a lot doesn't she at the end or Yeah, yeah I enjoyed the episode for what it was I like that they brought Members of the JSA back. Yeah, I was wondering they were gonna do that Will what do you think was this what what should run down? Well, I mean it's obviously a money-saving episode which on one hand I'm cool is because it means we're gonna have you know a better episode effects-wise at some point I mean other than the lightsaber and Powers hold on it's a saber made of light. Let's not get sued here But other than that I mean there was no real power usage in this episode at all like other than Amaya doing her thing and and I think Nate Turned steel at one point.
Yes pretty much on the cheap. Yeah, this was a pretty much other cheap episode Yeah, so I'm kind of down with that but on the other side it It really held no weight. I know it was a story long about getting you know the other pieces here It's located Camelot. It just felt like this episode was kind of After the last few we've had which moved everything along and actually had some weight behind him This felt very much like a filler, you know like yes We're gonna get a piece of the spear but the rest of it's kind of like you know Yeah, I guess I'm gonna kiss a boy race gonna go fangirl, you know Nate's gonna pine after Amaya God Hey, hey gotta ship something right.
Yes. Yes. Yes. It is a CW show You know Yep, I don't know hashtag ridian Yeah, anyway, but yeah, I have to agree this without like after the ones we've gotten earlier this season This one felt kind of lackluster, but I was kind of excited because the whole Camelot 3000 They're gonna do the comic adaptation of that and now I never read Camelot 3000 But that was essentially retelling of our three-year legend with these heroes, right?
No, it was retelling with like futuristic heroes. It was like in the future. It was so future pass It was dark and yeah, it was dark and it was cool. It was not even anything like that.
Yeah, okay Although it was some lesbianism, but that's that's yeah, the parallel sand. Yeah, okay. Well interesting So yeah, so this one we start out we were trying to find some spears of some destinies and So we the legend they're like alright cool We know that the JSA has these pieces of the spear so currently they have zero pieces correct because they lost them all Correct, and so they're now using the aimlet thing to go and try to find the other pieces And so they stumbled across the year three thousand where we run into Dr. Midnight And now a question that's been kind of posed the entire time since we've seen the JSA is what happened to them and it appears Right interested each one of the members of the JSA that's I guess still alive right now with a piece of the spear destiny in order to protect it So here's my question about this What about?
Our man's piece or does he have one or was he killed before he got it? He was killed before he got it There's only so it was only it's commander steel dr. Midnight and star girls who have who have slash had pieces of the spirit destiny Okay, okay, that's what I was thinking. I just wanted to confirm on that Well cool, so we go to the future or actually rip goes to the future He rips like yo, what's up dr.
Midnight and dr. Midnight's like hey rip has gone. He's like, oh, it's pretty good I'm gonna murder you and steal your piece of the spear and he's like, oh man That's not cool, and so he does it anyway And yeah, now we have a dead JSA member which is sad face and another day a member of the truth second That's all right, you know, it's it's no second. I'm sorry.
I was thinking I forgot about a city and being alive Yeah, yes, but he is about to be dead because didn't he have like a corner or so he was like 95 years old at the end Yeah, yeah, I mean he's technically when you go to years he doesn't he's already dead so But when they went to Camelot, he hadn't even been born yet. So right right. He's kind of like Schrodinger's superhero He's alive and dancing time depending on how you observe him. I guess.
I don't know. Yes anyway So I guess I guess dr. Midnight in his spare time aside from protecting the spirit best name is working on mind control devices Mind control because that's that's what you do. It's just one of those things and so rip decides To be a great idea to use this and you know control the minds of people specifically Legends show up too late, of course, even though they have a time So Think about it Gideon couldn't find it until it was out of midnight.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess I can go with this I can go with that is like she couldn't find it and all of a sudden rip cuts midnight open and poopy right here Yeah, they still know that midnight has it so what's getting finds it when it's out of midnight They just go back, you know a week before Midnight was dead and then get it from them, but then you wouldn't know where it was There's no reason to assume it would be in a person and you can't go back to a timeline you've been to according to the first time If you if you go back a week you haven't been there yet true Yes time travel time travel is is is crazy I you know that's a crash kind of had rules and this one kind of has rules but like every week they kind of you know throw those rules But you know it's it's it's legends and it's fun and it's campy and we love it So and this also sets up one of our great little sub plots of this episode the the Stein Mick theory Subplot fest. Yeah, so so dr. Stein sees this thing and he's like I don't even know this is but it looks important So I'm gonna take it. There's no way it's my guffin at all.
It's just an interesting piece of equipment so So he grabs it and of course makin and smell a thief so what he says and he's like what you take and so of course it reveals The sign is taking this this my control device just you know because you know it's it's future tech and I mean Dr. Midnight when he's doing more let's be honest. He ain't gonna be right in the legends season three. Hey, oh Hey, you might I mean this is a time show.
He very well could be I don't know what they might they might reset time or reality again. That's true. It's screwed with it quite a bit. Yeah, it's all screwed up now Yeah, yeah Well, so so they learned that so rip has that piece they miss out on that one and then I'm trying to remember because when I was watching I was kind of like zoning in and out for some reason but they then learn that The other piece is in medieval Europe now.
Where did they get that inside from? Was that from the amulet or is that from dr. Midnight? That was for the amulet.
Okay, okay So I was conveniently said like right after even Nate pointed it out that the New where it was like it was like right after the fact that I got it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well what's convenient. Thanks writers So we now have to travel back into time and this is another part of the like about this episode the You have Nate who's a historian buff and you have the legends who are you know nerdy arthurian legends?
Ray specifically I guess you should say and I love how they put heads on the type of clothing that they should wear for just medieval Europe and Is a great little line there Nate who's dressing up in traditional, you know actual authentic clothing of the time period Then you have Ray who's all like I'm gonna dress up in chainmail and armor and it's like why there's no reason Why knight would be walking around like that just out in the open in this time period and of course right after he says that They get ambushed by a bunch of knights and shining armor And so what's the first so we run into like one of your first correct correct? Yes, and so she's a level with a sword. Yes. Yes.
Oh Welcome back to and you end of TV talk And so now we have your sword are you just having to see me a little bit about it honestly Not gonna lie at all Yeah So we have the luxury I'm sorry Kyle Yeah Back back to reality there goes gravity up there goes podcast So anyway the legends get captured by Gwenibear whom Assumes that Ray is an actual knight which surprises Nate and also assumes that Nate is a leper which also surprises Nate and which concludes The joke for this episode that I really enjoyed at least one of them and so now we get taken over to This mystical Camelot So this is interesting here because now we have an instance where Stargirl takes Arthurian legend and when she goes back in time in order to protect the spear makes Arthurian legend So here we go. We have a conundrum here a paradox if you will and and if you will will What do you think is this a paradox? Because it seems like Stargirl knows about other religion because she grew up reading it or whatever and as she goes back in Time she creates Arthurian legend. So are we dealing with a paradox here?
Well, no, we might just be free dealing with how it came about You know everybody's kind of always wondered if King Arthur's court app and I'm not sure if there was a real King Arthur or not I mean, I know it was based on the once and future King So it's possible, but I don't think it would be a paradox and I mean they've just think about it you Rip his created apparitions now everywhere. He sent four 19 for three 1940 superheroes throughout time with a piece of wood that will alter reality These you know one goes to future Which I mean he's gonna have a minimum impact one goes to the past which you know She could have a significant impact and created our theory of legend You know, we don't know what he did with commander steel and I'm assuming who that's gonna be the third one because it was said He's coming back and blah blah blah. So I think he's the only one left. Yeah, so we'll find out in two episodes Yeah, so I don't know I wouldn't say it's a paradox But I mean then again on the other hand again, he's breaking his own rule He made an aberration and he did it when the time masters were in power That's one thing I did notice is that Nick Knight says no He says you said the time masters couldn't be trusted with this when he did it the time masters existed Interesting so Yeah, like that's huge like cuz that means this happened before it also means when he meant the JSA he knew the JSA What happened to them when everybody was like what happened to the JSA?
Why you know why he knows exactly what happened to the JSA? It's like I'm not telling because I'm going to read scramble my mind with right. Yeah Question cow, what do you think? I mean I so it's always interesting when you have these sort of situations where you know a character ends up becoming their own father or something like that in the case of you know Cowrieze and John Connor and the Terminator is and it's it's kind of not very similar here because it's our three legends being created by someone Stargirl read about our three legends, which she ends up creating.
So yeah, what do you think paradoxical or is it's just you know another Tuesday for the legends team Paradox and it's just another Tuesday. Yeah, I mean the fact that Nate is very Down on this whole thing They had to do something you know, I really don't know how to explain it But it's funny though, you mentioned Nate and him being a historian you would figure he would be a lot more interested in maintaining the timeline and not actually Creating all these operations that they're creating. So yeah, he's kind of an interesting character in the situation because I would think that He would be a little bit more you know They kind of show that when he's getting in the traditional garb and not the whole Arthurian legend thing But that's kind of interesting also how snargirl sort of as opposed to because she's familiar with the you know The the rape-almer version of it So that's what she takes back with her and I was thinking that perhaps Nate was going to try and do something like try and Adjust it to how it should be but you know, it's only 42 minute episode. So I can't do all that right Yeah, so they we find out that Amaya is like oh cool, you know here's Stargirl.
This is great and Stargirl She's a protector of one of the pieces of the spear and that she this was kind of a weird thing to me where Stargirl and Amaya have this moment where they talk about the spear and she's like I don't want to give it to you But then almost what like ten seconds later? She's like yes, this is after the course of call I'm acting thing that we'll get into in a minute But she seemed to kind of like change your idea as to whether or not the spear should be protected by her or not Did that seem odd to anybody else or such as me? No, because that's the same thing that happened with Amaya later in the episode about Ray wanting to stay behind and And then she was just like damn. All right, we'll stay in fight.
Yeah, that's what makes sense You gotta get up a lot somewhere. Yeah So we have Damien dark and Nate coming in here and they're building an army of Knights using King Arthur in his Knights of the Round Table another in other nights as well So using these micro-told mice is that you know ripso Conveniently well, I mean that kind of makes sense you knew about them But yeah, so he steals the micro-told device is places them on all the nights including King Arthur in order to turn them against Camelot Destroy it so that he can find the the piece of the spear that they need And this was so so Arthur shows up in the round table with one of these devices almost kills Gwynnevere at the request of a rip And I'm trying to remember exactly what happened in the scene was he asking where the spear the piece the spear was and they were He's gonna give it to him. Yeah, Corey. We're fuses to give it to him.
Okay, which is good for her You know she should do that or she shouldn't give him the spear and so now we have this issue of There's all these nights and all these kings and whatnot that are being mind-controlled that they don't necessarily want to kill So that's fine a solution to it. So, you know, they notice that Once they so who was it? There's two pieces to this device, right? You have the receiver and the transmitter They had the Stein stole the transmitter correct.
Yes. Yeah, so when they were working with the With the receiver. I can't remember who they got that off of Just a random just a random dude. Yep.
Okay. Well, that's convenient So they get the It was sir Jonathan McGovern sir Jonathan McGovern yes, yes, very important night very very good. He's a long history history Yes, I'll swear Yeah, he's all over the place that guy. Yeah, he's actually these DC shows Wide legacy very much so So they basically decide that the best way to solve this problem is to go in and Figure out a way to override the signal that rips in out to all these nights before they come in and drowns Camelot So Stein being the brain that he is thinks yeah, you know what?
It's got to be something to do with with mental capacity and the smarter you are the easier will be to control people so they take the smartest guy on the ship and the dumbest guy on the ship and they see if they can get this to work and We hooked it up to rip and I'm sorry not to rip We get up to make and we get up to Stein and Stein tries to get him to do stuff and it just does not work because I mean I don't see how anybody could really mind control Rory. There's not much there to control. Am I right? Which is probably why they thought of it to begin with right right right right?
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense for them to go Yeah, you know we'll take a dumb guy and smart guy and maybe we'll be able to figure something out here But yeah, that didn't work and so I'm trying to remember what was it when did they discover the intensity method? It was Jack's right here towards the end of the episode. Yeah, right when they were doing the battle Okay, she said to have a cheese right before they go to do battle She's like in U3 figure this out We need to put you three into room where you will not turn into firestorm because we cannot afford your effect and Rory your effect is also Flaving so you need to also be in the rope so you three go do that No, we should have a segment on that. It's like what is the anti-firestorm device It's the budget saver yeah, yeah the budget saver this room was the the figure out room Or wait no the biggest almost like Victor Gerber like has something in his car truck that says I'm not leaving the ship anymore I'm just gonna come to this set where the ship is don't let me outside.
Oh, I'm getting a place where I have to walk outside He went out of the show. Yeah, but he didn't go outside. I'm telling you I think he's got a condition where he can't go in so late. Maybe he's a vampire Victor Gerber vampire Well, no, I mean in Sicario he you know what I don't think he was outside in Scario.
I think Victor Gerber's I think this could be great traction Hashtag Garber vampire. Yeah, Victor Gerber's vampire. You heard it your first folks. Yes One side I'd never see me garlic.
Yeah, what you know, it's not one day. We're gonna see a story like you know Victor Gerber goes crazy attacks person and fleas, you know, right lots of blood was lost But there wasn't much blood at the scene maybe Victor Garber's collecting it. We're gonna go. He's a vampire.
He's a vampire We need man. He wasn't outside on alias very much either. I don't think he's gonna stay in the state as the six was the else was the outside Antitanic was the anti-tanic I think they did walk outside. I'm tatanic.
Maybe that's where Cameron bit him He bit him on the set of Titanic and from This conspiracy is growing. Are you saying that James Cameron is also a vampire? I've said he doesn't know Okay, I remember it was in Titanic. Yes, he was the architect.
I built you a strong ship rose. It's with that founder Titanic will founder I Have screwed up and he stood like it for the clock and he fixed the clock. Yeah, oh then he died because the water hit him. Yeah, yeah Yeah, he was he was the architect of the you know, I built you a fine ship rose.
All right, all right, so just Interesting fact here about Victor Garber his first role. What guess what character did he play? You say Dracula I'm out. I mean it's it's it's it's I wish it was I wish it was actually Jesus Christ.
So I think Was he Jesus Christ super sure no the movie was called God spell. Oh, okay. Well, that's right. Yeah, so I love that movie Uh, he may not be a vampire.
He might be God No vampire. Yeah That's all I'm saying. Well according to the smashing pumpkins the world is a vampire. That's true Yeah Something something we have just got off topic again.
Welcome to I don't mind You know, honestly, I you know this was my favorite episode of like oh, that's I don't mind just going off topic because this episode kind of you know, I only give it you know two sorts Yeah Two stones out. Yeah two sorts out of five stones So we'll go with this though. Uh the they find out towards the end because you know, uh, yes, uh, mick and uh, zax Zach's Dr. Garber or all in the zero fire Well, I said Zach so now I gotta make it up.
Yeah, I was thinking Zach's means because I'm hungry Yeah, so Zach's means chicken screech and Which you can't roast it because we took care of all the fire guys. Yeah, exactly. And Jesus Christ has played by mick to garber all in a room Uh, I don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna go down.
Yeah, I don't know why mick why mick is uh is screech I think he should be aces later because he's abnormally. Yeah, I think it's I think jax is screech Jack jax is is x-b's. Oh, okay. Yeah, victor griber is is vlad Dracula aka jesus Christ Uh, and then make or mr.
Belding or mr. Belding. Oh, yeah, he was a bill So we have aces later Which you know what I never really watched that show when I was growing up all my friends did but I was always watching like Probably other part to me. There's something I don't know the operative word of that sentence I feel is as I when I was growing up because it makes me think you watched it after you grew up I actually did like that's the thing.
It came on. Okay. It was in the 90s. You know, I would always see it I would always get bored with the episodes.
I don't know it's weird, but this isn't well. You have such a high pallet, sir I know right like I watch a legacy talk. That's the highest year of television that you can find right? Legends of tomorrow or legacy We talk is oh, no, wait.
Yes. Sorry. I always interchange those anytime. I'm trying to say my podcast name I say like this tomorrow.
You need to try to show the show name. I say the podcast name. I have a lot of wires crossed Right out But uh, so anyway in the anti-fire storm room anti-fire room They figure out that it's intensity and not intelligence that drives this device and so they end up uh breaking the curse quote unquote That's what they would call it and yield medieval times also forgot to mention that star girl is Merlin. How cool is that?
That was pretty cool. I like that was pretty cool. That was at least at least yeah, because I like how they you know because Merlin has a staff Because wizards have stabs or staves I guess if we're going to do it properly, and the fight scene was pretty cool like they're like saber You know, let's let's talk about that for a second. You know, I'm sorry the like saber I saber I can't say yes We're in Virginia, so we can say saber that's not being trouble.
That's true because I think George Lucas gonna sue somebody Well, actually I think Disney gonna sue somebody nowadays although I still like the quote and the quotes that works We still use it on flash TV talk We'll be talking about stars. So anyway Uh, yeah, we have uh a really neat fight scene uh Damien dark versus ray and with the lightsaber like he actually bested him That was pretty cool best in combat, but of course Damien dark being the sucker punching douchebag that he is shoots him in the chest And we're like, oh, no ray has died just this was prophesied in the Book that Nate found in episode one of the season Um, but no that is not true at all because he's wearing his adam suit underneath his armor, which right? I mean would you say that his adam would you say that his adam suit was under armor? And all of our mom and I said Uh, yeah, so there's that um Yeah, so the fight scene was cool.
I let toussargirl was using her staff like I like you know, wizards wand like shooting stuff out of it I thought that was really neat touch to it But uh, I just want to talk about my favorite piece of this episode Uh, was when am I actually pulls the sword from the stone to grab the spearhead of the spear of destiny and lo and behold What does it look exactly like and I know I've talked about this before it looks just like well? It doesn't look just like it's a little bit uh less aged but it looks Like an actual copy of the prop that they used in the constant team for the spirit destiny Did you guys notice that or is that just me? I think I want to just win you because I don't remember very well how uh, Constantine's spirit destiny looked I will show you uh, uh, you can figure that out How are you gonna show us probably to uh, yeah, I'm going to Find pictures here we go This one view image Control c oh you're putting it in the dock. Ah, I can put it on the twitter message or the dock whatever whichever one Either or either because I think if we could put this on the on the video that would be nice I yeah, I just had to move my phone.
Oh Uh, so my phones are like jack up so that nothing happens, but here we go Well, so uh, the first one that I sent that is the spirit destiny from uh, Constantine What it does almost looks like it too. I'm kind of impressed. Yeah, right? It just looks like it looks like newer and cleaner Uh, let's see.
I don't know if I'm gonna find like they wiped the blood of our savior off Why would you do that because the blood is like what makes it so powerful? I don't know if I'm gonna be able to find the actual thing from Yeah, it's probably too early to find the clip of it, but I mean if you rewatch the episode and you look at the The constant team one they look very similar except for the constant team one the actual, uh, uh, uh, uh, Spear part of it is not shiny and chrome like the one on legends is But that made me super happy. I was super excited about that because I love the constant encountering reason Uh, yes, actually about that, but I love it. It's amazing and the fact that they use the same Prop or a very similar looking prop was really really neat.
So, uh, yeah, I appreciated that But uh, let's see here. What other talking points do we have let's talk about nate and amaya Hey, what'd you do? You can kind of see it Wait, it's slowly falling. No, no, it's going for me Uh, this is gonna be interesting.
So this is this is an interesting way to watch podcast because I can see I know it's going to happen when I Oh, that was great. That was great. I can see your speakers Oh, that's cool. Anyway, anyway, so yeah, we're getting Much apologies professionalism hashtag professionalism.
Um, all these things Hashtag gravity does suck. Uh, well until you know, you need it to live and then it's pretty cool So yeah, so so make amaya. They kind of made them a really awkward combination And you know, like we said earlier, you gotta ship something. So I guess they just wanted to keep that relationship Spark just their kind of there.
I mean like like Are they doing this just to just to remind us? Hey, don't worry. There's gonna be some shipping. There's going to be some shipping It's okay.
Well, yeah, because it did feel like it was kind of like, you know, just shoved in there Uh, and they didn't really mention it very much after that. So I mean, what do you think they're doing with this go? Uh, they're making it really awkward between them. Uh, it's a high school drama.
Um, you know, they put up once So then there's, you know, this is not gonna get weird. Is it? Yeah, I got weird in it Uh, yeah, I got weird. It got weird didn't it?
Yeah, yeah, um, so yeah, that's what they're doing and reminding us that Yeah, I think that Nate is gonna become uh Uh Future vixens. Thank you grandfather. Thank you. I'm in there.
So will you're in the future vixen? Uh, yeah Interesting. Yeah, he may even be I don't know like we could talk about this in speculation, but I mean, yeah It definitely was honestly it felt to be more it was so shoehorned in that it felt to be more like a WB note Like a CW note where they were like, oh, by the way, uh, you know, last week you had these two sleep together We should totally have a line in there acknowledging that they feel weird. Oh, yeah, we'll do it right before they go into the past Right before we go to the future.
We'll write something. It'll feel perfectly natural. It felt perfectly not natural. Yeah, literally it was brought up They had that awkward dis about state on the ship and it was never mentioned again Yeah, yeah, I don't know it was I almost missed it.
You know, like that's how that's how quick it was. So exactly it felt forced Yeah, yeah, but you know got to ship something gonna say it every episode. Yeah But yeah, so there's a tagline Bell's trademark exactly I'm so cool So yeah, so there's that there's the awkwardness which I mean that kind of brings us into some stuff we can speculate So why don't why don't we just make it on? And now you can talk nice That's cool.
We got some bumps now. It's excellent. Oh, yeah, I'm pretty some bumps All right, I'll have to edit this part out about how but that's all we are But in our gravity issue today, thanks for making me have to edit you're welcome So all right, so we have uh, we've got things to talk about. Let's start with what we were talking about earlier with Nate and Maya So, uh, do you think that she is pregnant at this moment from the time that they hooked up in George Washington time?
Holy crap. No. No, I didn't think about that. Yes.
Yes. I do. Okay. We got a yes.
We got to know Uh, am I going with the tiebreaker? We'll eat really really really from the field. So I'm gonna talk with the line official and We'll make sure that the call was correct, but you know, I'm gonna go ahead and say goal I'm gonna say goal because I think that's gonna lead to some interesting drama in the rest of the season at least make their awkwardness Pay off, right? If they're gonna be weird and weird about that.
So yeah, I think that yes There's a button in the oven for Maya and it's going to cause some problems later in the season And that absolutely especially when the hormones hit and all she wants to do is be the bear And like ice cream all the time and but you know, they're gonna time So I feel like an elephant and all of a sudden the tent to toe becomes an outfit That's not helpful Good. Yeah, she's sitting there. They're like a timeline and I just like I want ice cream. I'm craving ice cream I'm like ice cream won't be invented for 500 more years.
She's like And yeah, then we have terrible. She's like Gideon ice cream now. Yeah, I gotta go on the ship. I scream from the ship What's true?
I'm on the ship and a Maya seems to be yeah, but she'll be like she'll be like I want like 1942 Uh, not Ben and Jerry's but grandfather Ben and Jerry's like super smash or anything. Yeah, then she'll be a Jeremiah's Well, yeah, so so I definitely think that she is going to spread it with uh twins With twins once we get lights on So yeah, so yeah, so I yeah, I think that's gonna happen I think that's gonna be some interesting stuff they can deal with in the remaining of the season Uh, but yeah, so also at the end of this episode We saw that rip was captured by the team uh when they were just about to murder him and they could have captured him then because he had a piece of The spear and they didn't whatever it doesn't make sense but who cares because now we have rip back on the ship and he has codes for Gideon So, yeah, what are they gonna do with this Kyle like Do you think the Gideon thought that or I'm sorry? Do you think that rip thought that he was going to get captured so he put in like a back door if he ever turned evil He could still control the ship or is this just Gideon ignoring the fact that he is now evil. What do you think?
It's I mean you could go either way, but I think it's it might have been riffs playing all along to get on the ship or at least Back of plan in case he ever did get captured But they you would you would also have to think that it was rip ship for a long time What did you exactly like want to like get rid of like rips like codes so to say so if kc does get captured We capture him. He doesn't take hold of the ship like it seems like he's apparently gonna do I don't think they ever thought of it. I don't think that's why Is so dysfunctional even a mias as it right? I mean, I think for me, you know, the captain is not very you know, what canary is not a technical superhero by any stretch You know, she's nice and things now Adam might have thought of it But you know, he's too busy feeling broken hearted over every girl in the world I think it's just something they missed like and I think they always hoped rip would come back Yeah, so they never removed his command access and he's just you know It was always says is Gideon.
Are you there? Yeah, yes, yes captain. I'm here and she calls him captain. Yeah, so I don't think they removed any of his access Well, I think he's going to abuse it.
Yeah, I think absolutely right But I think though if anybody should have known to disable his access It should have been jacks because he's supposed to know the ship back with the forward So I would assume and you know what honestly it could be a thing where maybe there were some safeguards that rip put in when he was good rip In case somebody tried to remove his access and so I don't know He's had that ship forever. There's no telling how much crazy stuff he put in there So I mean it probably would have been futile even for them to attempt to revoke his access, but you know, that's Yeah, right and I think they're gonna I think they're gonna you know, it's very possible Gideon still is like I'm here captain And he's like good blow up the ship. She's like go screw yourself captain I'm still here Well, no, they had it in the trailer for next week about him doing a self-destruct Okay, I hadn't seen it yet. So because I watched it on okay on a I might you know Well, so I'll go watch the youtube Uh, now I know we're we're talks about getting Leonard snark back and seeing him right do we know when he's going to come back?
Like what happened to him? Well, what have I guess I want to know what happened to head snark like it makes head Yeah, he's just not like we had him for one episode. It was really weird It's like we had him for one episode. He's like yeah, this episode of prison break it focuses on the girls So I get to be here and okay, now I go back and finish prison breaking Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, because I don't forgot about it since yeah, it only happened one episode Uh, we had head snark come in and Gideon checked out Uh checked out mick and they found the little piece of whatever that the time masters had put in his head But they removed that and then they found out that it wasn't actually anything to do with that Uh, I'm trying to tell you remember the conclusion to that was there's something that that there was something in their idea. I don't remember I thought it was psychological. Yeah, it was psychological and rather uh, uh, vampires slash jesus slash nine Vampire jesus. We're gonna call him vjstine from now on pjstine So vjstine, uh, maybe he helped him.
I need to go back and rewatch that episode But uh, yeah, I want to remember it seemed like there was going to be some more head snark in the future, but uh From what I from what I know is that yes, he is gonna be in the season finale along with uh katie Cassidy's laurel lance Uh, I think in moon shot, which is like two episodes from the next one, which is also gonna bring back commander steel Yeah, they're gonna have uh one where we're looking back Well speaking of commander steel. I'm assuming he's going to be the other protector of the spirit doesn't mean he has to be right So, uh, what does this mean for nate? Is he his own grandfather? Yeah, because it's weird Like depending on what timeline he's in.
I mean how do you how do you address that? That's a paradox, isn't it? It's say he put commander steel in 19 or you know in 19 or 2017. How could he be date's grandfather?
To protect the spear Yeah, well, so so he puts him in 2017, you know to protect the spirit he hides, you know commander steel state 2017 Which makes sense. They seem like they went future and then passed and now they're present maybe How does he father? How does he grandfather Nate? Like you can't move commander steel to a time I would think Well, I don't know though because he could have he could have fathered him before nate Because the JSA was around and then they disappeared so he could have rather you're right.
Yeah, he could have father Yeah, he could grandfather Nate before he disappeared I would think right like that would be the only way that work, right? Correct. Okay. Okay, so now Yeah, he fathered Nate's father Right.
Yeah, so he fathered Nate's father before they disappeared and before he was given you know task to command over the uh the spirit destiny So there we go. Okay, so crisis averted Nate is not his own grandfather Yeah, grandfather so that was that would suck. Yeah, that would be pretty crazy Um But yeah, so uh, yeah, I know we mentioned it but uh briefly here for a second But we're gonna talk about a little bit of news And that's katie casting what we're gonna be back for the season finale And that's that episode is also going to feature jr. Tolkien So we're gonna speculate here a little bit on this news Do you think that this is going to be similar to the george lucas episode and that they're going to try to convince jr?
Tolkien to write Lord of the rings or is this going to be something where they're going to subconsciously inspire him to write it. Uh, what do you think tokans role is is going to be in this in this episode? Um, I don't think they'll go the same route as they did with george lucas That's just I mean they're just retreading redoing what they did with Um lucas. Yeah, I think he's just gonna be there that they might be just at the very end of him finishing like return of the king And like the the legionadium is gonna try to screw them which would really mess up time or something like that and say hi Exactly.
Okay. Okay. Yeah, that would make sense. I can see that happening Uh, what do you think?
Well, I don't know I it could go either way it could be, you know Maybe maybe they convinced him to not write the hobbit and we don't have to deal with peter jacks in that because Well, they didn't write the hobbit with the rings. Yeah, right. No hobbit came after No, I thought hobbit came after lord of the rigs. Oh, you hobbit is a prequel.
I know it's a prequel It was written after lord of the rigs really? Yes. Hi. Wow Uh, I'm pretty sure I feel like I feel like I have I can no longer call myself a lord of the rings man if I didn't know that Let's see here.
It was published September 21st 1937 Um, yep, let's see here where is Was published the lord of the right never mind you and you were right hobbit was first Yeah, cuz I was second okay. Yeah, cuz I remember like you the opening line, you know in a hobbit hole lived a hobbit or whatever it was He wrote like on a paper. Uh, right and then he expanded that into the book. Okay.
Okay. Anyway, that aside Crisis averted nerd dumb you in Out of our house. Yeah So, so yes, I don't know it'll be interesting to see what they do with that I'll be glad to see went with miller come back to play cap to cold I hopefully it's not in a you know head snark kind of way and it's in an actual snark kind of way and it's in a way that the snark can come It's in a way that snark can come back on the flash and you know be leader of the road or something like that because I like snark Rogue season three. Yeah, like that's what I think like season four I'm gonna be awesome and that's gonna require him to come back and it's gonna require him to come back in a way that's going to Not pinhole him or she hole Word she warned pigeonhole.
There we go I was all these words pigeonhole in a way that he's only stuck on legends like I wanted to come back for flash And so hopefully we'll see that same thing with katty cats, but can they do that well? I mean that's we'll have to see with the spirit destiny they can be right all sorts of stuff But I mean what I'm thinking is like can you have this show without me because okay if if cold goes back to flash Heatwave has to go with him. It doesn't work otherwise. You can't have the ropes without heat wave either That's and so now we lose mik.
It mik is an important voice on this show who you replace him with He's easier a place boy think That's what I mean. I don't I don't think they can do the rosings before because of that reason I bet you they said around talking about it. They're like you take mik out of this show and I think you lose you lose mix We're the weak speaking of which So we got it just yeah, yeah, it's it's I mean are we there? Yeah, I don't know like that.
That's I think without I think you're right. I think without mik legends would not be what it is He adds just the right amount of crazy and the right amount of just you know silliness and everything that it would be really hard to have Showed out of they'd have to find somebody right to replace that. I just don't think they have it right now Uh, but yeah, so speaking of mik Actually, before we go into that though, I do want to talk about katty kassy for a second here Now there's the whole oral ants thing on our arrow and perhaps this is going to be a way for them to bring her back on arrow as well Which makes me think why they're going to bring snark back for For flash because katty kassy's gonna be in this episode. Maybe it means they're going to fix some timeline stuff and bring You know lower lands back on arrow.
So so Kyle, but I like the new black and area. Yeah, they should I love time to drink I love her so much. Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of this season of arrow But from what I've heard this black canary is the best and so if they do decide to bring back katty kassy is lower lands Do you think that would be for arrows detriment or benefit? Kyle?
What do you think detriment? Are you Kyle? Well, I know I should I meant to bounce that around. I'm sorry.
Well, what do you think? Well, now I don't want it because now I feel like I had to ask for it Story of my life. No, I do I do think it's I think it's to their detriment. I think I think the I got to drink one me over in 10 seconds and it took katty kassy for years So, you know, I think she should go back to being the other girl I'm taking and uh, you know, that's the end of that.
Oh, yeah, she was the other girl taking one g Yeah, she was hot there too. Yeah. Well, Kyle, so what do you think detriment benefit? I mean, I'd like it if katty kassy was back because that means all of uh, uh, uh, lances Uh, Daughters are back live and that would be yeah for him But I mean I do like dying to drink on arrow as it is.
So yeah, it's a hit of a mess So let's see what they do with that. So we'll keep an eye on that one. We'll look for it Uh, hopefully it will end up being good for everybody but uh before we get before we get out of here though We got to do mix quarter of the week. I mean he is the most important part of the show All right, so It's awesome.
I did work So, uh, we have a couple a couple options here and Kyle since you do the best mick of any of us. I'm gonna have you go through them all I will do What's in order Just admit it my brain saved the day. Maybe not giddy in do they have booze in the year 3000? So I don't know either just admit it my brain saved the day or maybe not giddy in do they have booze in the year 3000 Uh, see the booze the booze one words with the previous one where they're like wait the trip was wasted And then go ahead.
Yeah, maybe not So the way skiddy in maybe not giddy in do they have booze in the year 3000? Yeah, okay We gotta we gotta give it we gotta give it to that one though our winner for this. Yeah, next one of the week is Kyle if you please Maybe not giddy in do they have booze in the year 3000? Excellent.
Well now he drinks half a cup of water It's like again you keep having me do this again I don't know about you. I am where they need it. I don't wear it on the back. Where is the trigger?
Hey, it's for Alfred. It's for bats. See as we get it. I found it on the world's greatest attention Is it I have to see you like oh bad I have to still see it That's where we go back man.
Be a DM if you go to larius You need to see that. It's going I Other drugs going Yeah, yeah, it's so They did a thing like Batman trying to find his Batman voice that scene from Batman begins where he pulls the cop up the thing and he's like He's like where are the other drugs going? It's like makadich. It's just trying all these voices out.
It's hilarious, but uh, yes, you should I'm better. I'm stronger. I'm Batman I am better. I am stronger.
I am Batman Uh, well, well, the other It's funny anyway anyway, uh, oh the cam fell again. That's I know I'm aware. Thank you Thanks for bringing it up. You're welcome.
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