3.1 Steps Forward, 2.9 Back

Ben and Arden are in Georgia as the Blue Jays tangle with MLB’s best team. They seize on some interesting Kevin Gausman comments to consider the Blue Jays' current trajectory (1:00), break down the factors behind which catcher will exit upon Alejandro Kirk’s impending return (24:52), and round up some pitching developments including what comes next for Jeff Hoffman (37:30). This podcast is produced and sound engineered by Cristian Ceniti and hosted by Arden Zwelling and Ben Nicholson-Smith. Contact us: [email protected] The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.