3.27 Joe Rigney, Michael Carlino, David Schrock • Interview • "The SBC Isn't Drifting, It's Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage"

Listen in as a Joe Rigney and Michael Carlino join David Schrock to discuss Joe's book Leadership and Emotional Sabotage and to apply the lessons from this book to the Southern Baptist Convention. Timestamps Intro – 00:28 Joe Rigney’s Time and Interest in the SBC - 03:26 The Genesis of Joe Rigney’s Book and Edwin Friedman 05:45 Rigney’s Influence on Michael Carlino - 10:18 How Do We See the Sin of Empathy Being Worked Out in the SBC Today? - 13:34 Friedman’s Fable Regarding Empathy - 16:35 Neutralizing the SBC and the Progressive Gaze - 21:54 Being Fractured and Frustrated - 26:14 Sensing the Steering - 27:22 How Does the Law Amendment Help the SBC to Not Be Steered? - 29:43 Feminism and Femininity -33:21 Women Should Not Be the Barometer for the Church - 36:04 The Female Gaze - 38:21 Deborah, Barak, and Jael - 39:51 The Levites Being Able to Suppress Brotherly Affection - 41:49 Closing and Outro - 45:16  Resources to Click “The SBC Isn’t Drifting, It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino “Of Empathy and Monsters” – Joe Rigney “With One Voice” – Joe Rigney Center For Baptist Leadership Podcast Learn about the Law Amendment at SBCAmendment.org The Sin of Empathy – Doug Wilson and Joe Rigney Donate to the SBC Giveaway of Leadership and Emotional Sabotage Register for SBC at a Crossroads Theme of the Month: Great Books Throughout the Ages Give to Support the Work  Books to Read Leadership and Emotional Sabotage – Joe Rigney The Things of Earth: Treasuring God by Enjoying His Gifts – Joe Rigney A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix – Edwin Friedman Friedman’s Fables – Edwin Friedman