3.4 - Sukkah Daf 04 B (10 lines Dn)

Today’s learning sponsored byKACH MAGI’IMTHE BOOK THAT WILL TRAIN YOU TO LEARNTHEENTIRETORAH“Making the Entire Torah Attainable for ALL”AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND HEBREWORDER YOURS ONLINE CLICK HERE OR CALL/TEXT 732-691-2907Sponsor a day's learning(thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click herehttps://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTUAbayye proposed: We can apply the principle of Gud asik mechitzta. (This is a rule in hilchos Shabbos allowing for imaginary walls to be drawn as a continuation of existing walls).Rava to Abayye: A sukkah requires actual walls.SummaryBeraisa: If one placed four poles on a roof and covered the frame with schach:Rabbi Yaakov: It is a kosher sukkah.Chachomim: It is possul.Rav Huna: The poles are placed on the corners of the roof. This is thus a debate of whether ‘gud asik’ applies to sukkah or not.According to Rabbi Yaakov the walls of the house can be ‘drawn up’ to fill in the spaces between the poles, whereas the Chachomim disagree (like Rava 3.3).Rav Nachman: The poles are not at the edges of the roof. The debate is whether we can apply the principle of ‘pasei bira’os’ and consider these poles ‘dyumadim’ (with regard to ‘bira’os’ - wells - Chazal established a system of ‘pasim’ or ‘dyumadim’ to enable water to be drawn on Shabbos. If there is one amah of dyumad on four sides, the well in its center is considered to be inside a walled domain and water may be drawn from there).According to Rabbi Yaakov the poles are considered dyumadim (and a dyumad of just one tefach is sufficient for a sukkah), whereas the Chachomim disagree.Question: What would Rav Nachman say in a case where the poles are placed on the corners of the roof? Is that also a debate between Rabbi Yaakov and the Chachomim, or do all agree that it is kosher?(Rava was a talmid of Rav Nachman. If Rav Nachman held that we can apply the principle of gud asik to sukkah, that would be a challenge to Rava, 3.3)..Response: Teiku. The matter remains unresolved. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate