How can grief and resilience shape kind leadership?

What can grief teach us about leadership?Bandile Mndebele speaks with education changemaker and ESG enthusiast Pumla Dlamini about grief, resilience, confidence, voice, presence and the responsibility leaders have to bring other people with them. From an unexpected early experience with mathematics to building confidence and creating change, Pumla reflects on how difficult experiences can become sources of purpose. A conversation about compassionate leadership, resilience, education and becoming the change we want to see.Guest: Pumla DlaminiTopics: leadership, grief, resilience, education, ESG, confidence, purpose, compassionate leadership and social impact.The Add IDEAS Podcast is an OTHERWISE production.