#3 - Incrementalism vs Revolution: Prison Abolition
from Increments Hosted by Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani
Ben persuades Vaden that all prisoners should be let loose. Vaden convinces Ben that he shouldn’t use the word “vista” so regularly. At least they stay on topic this time. References: What is the PIC? What is Abolition?, Critical Resistance. Is Prison Necessary? NY Times piece covering Ruth Wilson Gilmore. What is Prison Abolition, The Nation.
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- 0:00 Intro and episode recap
- 3:10 Main segment: prison abolition vs. incrementalism
- 9:07 Structuring the debate: first half and second half
- 18:57 What's impressive (and what's flimsy) in the movement
- 21:01 What would replace prisons?
- 27:57 The case for prisons: Pinker and the Pareto principle of violence
- 41:01 The philosophy of incrementalism
- 52:45 Can radical change tunnel past incrementalism?
- 1:03:07 When is revolution justified? The tyranny question
- 1:13:02 Rotten system vs. improvable system
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