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Jul 4, 2022 1 hr 24 min

3: Karen Independence Day!

from A Special Place in Hell Hosted by Meghan Daum & Sarah Haider

(Hey! Paying subscribers! This is not the post for you— you are special. For you, we have an extra-long episode, which you can access, here). In this THIRD installment of A Special Place In Hell, the girls/women do their best to celebrate Independence Day despite their subjugation by the patriarchy, the Republican Party and the woman-hating world in general. They discuss the tenor of the public conversation around the overturning of Roe v. Wade and wonder if their long range thinking and lack of catastrophizing amounts to a “tone problem.” They then compare generational notes when it comes to actual abortions (Meghan knows many women who’ve had abortions while Sarah knows very few), access to reliable birth control and (semi-relatedly) the “myth” of women “tricking” men into becoming fathers. Moving along to the less fraught topic of race, Sarah and Meghan ponder the “Karen” phenomenon and Sarah relays a story of being recently micro-aggressed by a well-meaning but clueless progressive (who had a “coexist” bumper sticker on his car) with whom she got into a fender bender. Finally, they discuss whether they’re failing at womanhood by not worrying enough about other people’s feelings or, in Meghan’s case, not always helping clear the table when she’s a dinner party guest. But wait! There is more! (For some of you, anyway….)Paying subscribers get access to a BONUS CONTENT version of this episode, in which the women/girls reveal what’s inside their medicine cabinets and ponder whether this topic has racial undertones. To that end, they also wonder whether all our race problems are really President Obama’s fault. Tantalizing! Subscribe to get access! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit aspecialplace.substack.com

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