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Jan 26, 2016 1 hr 3 min

3 - The Shining (1980)

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We've got a golden goose this week. Stanley Kubrick's THE SHINING is a benchmark of the horror genre, and a classic within the broader scope of cinema. So naturally, we talk about David Lynch's MULHOLLAND DRIVE. We also shit on Stephen King's problems with THE SHINING, and Dan reveals that he has part of a bachelor's degree by trying to talk about feminist and post-colonialist themes in the film. Stephen King Get weekly episodes and request movies on our Patreon: https://patreon.com/kingmepod Email us at: [email protected] Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/kingmepod/ Subscribe/rate/review on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/king-me/id1071620322?mt=2 Subscribe & rate on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fWr5bSjFLtCDRda6oCeIW?si=84c3c8b55a294467

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That might be how this starts. A deep, deep sigh. Well, here we are. We've both eaten too much barbecue.

It's the way we start every podcast. By eating enough food for four people. I'm sluggish. How are you, Rob?

I am tired and I am Rob. Welcome to King me. I'm Dan. I'm Rob.

And today we're talking about the shining. Oh, god damn. All right, we've been waiting two episodes for this. Here's the only problem with the shining.

It's the best and it's only downhill from here. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I enjoyed Creepshow too.

All the other movies are fine. They all have their little. No, they're not. They're not all fine.

They're all fine. It's an unfair characterization of some of these movies. We won't hit this high point again until we get to Silver Bullet. I mean, way too much.

I feel I like, yeah, just for just so you guys at home have context, we went straight from brisket sandwiches and hamburgers to black, black coffee. I. Pow. I did.

Shit, my pants. So I've been having digestive issues. And I felt like this would clear it right now. Yeah, well, the way it works is that the red meat creates a blockage of pressure.

And then the coffee, yeah. It goes up until it just, yeah, exactly. And then at a certain point, it all just shoots out of your butt. Like blood out of an elevator.

We're talking about the shining. Boom, boom, boom. Keeping it on task. So how do you want to start talking about this?

All right, what was the first time you saw the shining? First time I saw the complete shining? Yeah. Oh, come here.

I'm going to throw it. I'm going to throw it all over a nice equipment. I'm trying to remember the first time I saw the shining because I was a big baby. My whole life, I would argue that I still am.

Yeah, big baby. Oh, sure. I just got the stronger teeth now. That's the only difference between baby Dan.

So I don't think I would have seen it growing up. Certainly not in its entirety. I was familiar with the pop culture beats of it, like the here's Johnny and the, which here's Johnny as we all know is the popular catchphrase that Jack Nicholson developed for the shining. And I knew the twins, but I don't think I knew anything.

I only saw it fairly recently, maybe within the last few years. I might have seen for this episode. I might have seen room 237 before I saw the shining straight through. I can tell you one of the first times I saw the shining was with it playing backwards and forwards over itself.

That's a delight if you've never done it. The best way to watch any movie. Yeah, for sure. When was the first time you saw the shining?

I saw it when I was a child. I was probably Danny Danny's age in the movie. 24? Oh, in the movie.

In the movie. Not me. Yeah. I was probably Danny's age.

You. It was definitely like, I don't like. Did you find him relatable at the time? I don't think he was scared enough.

I saw it. I was so young and it scared the shit. Yeah. The literal shit out of me.

I can tell you forever. My first real horror movie memory is without any context for it seeing a scene from child's play where she's holding the doll and she I guess knows something is up and is like screaming at the doll and she insults him and he comes to life in a tax and that scared the shit out of me. So I can't imagine how you were feeling looking at that art house nightmare. I'm glad I didn't understand art house cinema.

Or else it may have been scarier. Yeah. Just the idea that the part where Scott man eats it. Scammers just to be clear.

Right. We're talking about skat man and cruthers. Skat man and cruthers. Not any not scat man.

Gagliardi. Great grandfap. Great. Abby's scat man and gagliardi.

That was very scary. The whole idea that the dad. Wait, so scat man and cruthers in general scared you? No, or racist seven year olds.

Well, yes. But that's not the part that scared me. I just didn't like him being. What about it scared you?

What part? No, when he died. When scat man gets the axe to the chest. That was very scary.

But the idea that Jack Nicholson turning on his family and killing them was terrifying to me. Because... How'd that start? What?

Haven't we done that on here before? Yeah. Why? It's worth noting because we haven't released any of these at the time that we're recording this.

It's not only recording this month after we watched the Shining. We watched the Shining. It's been a better part of half a year since we came up with this and started recording episodes. We're going to record over the next year or so bank a bunch.

Release them all at once. I think we might have both been in different relationships when we started recording this show. That's true. I think you're right.

That's the power of Stephen King. I'm still dating the same person. It's just the dynamic exchange. That's what I mean.

But yeah, man, Jack Nicholson turning on his family. The idea, because my dad wasn't... He was never like... He's no Jack Nicholson in the Shining or anything.

He wasn't bad or anything. I'm smirking. But he's so much bigger. Everybody's so much bigger when you're a child.

Your dad particularly. Yeah. He's a big dude. He's a big guy.

And I was afraid of him. And like I said, not for any reason. He didn't hate us or anything like that. It was just like I was scared of him.

Yeah. He's big and scary. So the idea that oh, and there's also this possibility that he'll go insane and murder's a little bit of an axe. Yep.

Yep. Yep. Great. I was like, really, I had a car launch to watch whatever I wanted.

Wow. So you just... As long as it didn't have tits in it. That's where the line was.

It does have tits in it. It does have grody, grody tits. It's just swampy raisin tits. Hi.

Swampy raisin tits. Esqui. Business card just says S raisin tits. Yeah.

What I don't understand is like how did you come into possession? Have you got a copy? How did you get a copy? How did you...

It was on TV. I must have been on channel 11, so it probably had no tits. So good to go. Right.

Yeah. Still all the scares left in. They left all those in there. They could have bleeped them.

Scramble the scares. It would have been my life easier. Swampy raisin tits. Chairman of the Scramble the Scares Act.

Should also be noted. I'm very sick on this. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

The grossest podcast. All right. Yeah. We're back.

This is a fucking shit show so far. And arguably the best app. Let's bring it back in. Yeah.

So I was allowed to watch and basically like anything like Schwartz and Agermove is like extreme violence. Yeah. Like 80s violence. Like the way that like Matt Gourley talks about squibs in the 80s and how they were like so insane like that those movies Robocop.

Like you saw Robocop as a 23 year old and I was still appalled. I was like, oh no. Yeah. No.

Yeah. That is a movie for people my age I think. Right. That's when you should see Robocop first.

I think because I've seen all these things and I'm desensitized to any violence. You know what's weird? I think I used to be more desensitized than I am. Do you feel that way?

I do. Like as your humanity grows within you. Yeah. I used to be a real nihilist.

I feel like I saw cannibal Holocaust when I was a sophomore in high school. A freshman or a sophomore. That's crime time. I think for cannibal Holocaust.

That's when you should see it. Why? I think isn't it just exploiting your lack of empathy? Yeah.

Cause like I don't think people. I wouldn't watch it anyway boys. Don't become empathetic till they're like 19. So like you're just you're just real smart.

You keep getting smarter but your empathy doesn't start growing for many many years. But yeah, I saw so I was at like peak intellect when I was 15. Right. It's only been downhill since then.

But yeah, I know I was like a full thinking person. I was just like a little fat Patrick Batman watching this movie and my friends and I saw it and we were like, oh, this is hilarious because it's so gratuitous. Right. And so over the top and then you rewatch it and you realize that it's very upsetting.

Yeah. There's like there's a lot of R word. Yeah. I didn't care for it.

I don't I I've gotten I've only seen parts of it. I've gotten soft in my old age. And I don't want to watch it. No, no, it's really it's not worth watching.

And like I shouldn't say that probably if you're seeking out a Stephen King podcast, you're probably also like a grind house person. Yeah. Right. Yeah, probably guys.

I love cannibal Holocaust. I love it. But like Eli Roth, that movie just came out recently in the Green Inferno, which was I didn't see it. But it's very similar to Campbell Hall.

Well, even Green Inferno is like they use that term in cannibal Holocaust when they I think when they're setting up the movie, like the cannibals live in a section of the rainforest. They call the Green Inferno. There it is. So yeah, it's like I remember because I remember seeing him being like, this is like a remake of CH as we affectionately called it before we felt humanity.

Right. Yeah. So point being, I think I've only gotten better as a person. Dumber certainly.

But yeah, what you lose in smarts, maybe gain in feels, maybe. That's it for King Me. So okay, let's dive into the movie a little bit. Okay.

So we have the family. Shelly Duvall, a mess. Yeah. Yeah, her wardrobe is like a raggedy and all a conservative like a Puritan.

And raggedy and all. Yeah, Puritan like a raggedy. Like someone saw raggedy and was like, hey, can we tone down the sex appeal on this thing? This is for kids.

No, her whole wrist needs to be covered. Yeah. Shelly Duvall is dressed like a little girl who is adult size, but also a specter. Yeah, I feel like she also speaks kind of like a little girl that's adult size.

Yes. Her point. Well, you know, they, yeah, he just, it's the kind of thing you do a hundred times and then just, oh, yeah. And the way they said, I was shocked watching this movie for the first time because I was always under the impression that like this hotel corrupts Jack Nicholson.

Right. But what I learned in watching it is that he is a shitty person to begin with. Yeah. He is a drunk.

He hits his kid. Yeah. There's a whole like the whole setup of the movie. There's a lot of talk about whether or not he beat his kid one time.

He accidentally hurt him while he was drunk. Right. He'd been drinking and he pulled his arm out of the socket. He grabbed him like the kid had his toys or some shit on the floor and he grabbed his arm and he yanked it out of the socket, which is awful.

It's very bad. Yeah. So that was hard to do, I think. He's making leg off of a whole rotisserie chicken cooked.

It's aint easy. It's and like, we, we started with him like talking to the boss at the overlook hotel and that whole scene with them going back and forth and the guys explained, well, there was an incident here. What a guy. You're gonna laugh at him.

It's a murder. It's so much murder. When Nicholson's face like the whole time, he is just like just a horror show. He has got the craziest like look on his face like this grin and eyes wide.

Well, his eyebrow, one of his eyebrows is permanently arched. Yeah. And the shape of them is so evil. I think he's only played the devil one time, but he should only play the devil.

Yeah. Nicholson should be shorthand for devil. Get the behind me, Nicholson. So and that was another thing as a kid like being very scared of Jack Nicholson from then on.

That's natural. Yeah. Like, you know who my childhood fear was? So Charlie Chaplin.

It's pretty creepy. Or, Santa's. No, not even that. You're probably fine with Hitler.

He looks like Hitler. To go. I don't know. He was the black eyeliner and his eyes were always real wide and he never said he never made peep.

I think someone had a life-sized Charlie Chaplin cardboard cutout and people back then were smaller. So it was probably my size. Yeah. Yeah.

Sorry. No, that's that's a this is a show where healing and I'm taking that opportunity to do so. Yeah. Yeah.

Jack Nicholson. He's just a scary guy because of his face. Yeah. His whole face.

He also in Hollywood, he seemed like the kind of guy that if you like got ended up on his bad side, he would have you murdered. Yeah. Like no problem. Yeah.

Yeah. He came from that whole like 70s Renaissance. He wouldn't have you murdered. He because he doesn't even seem like that calculate.

He seems like he'd just do it one night and not even care when he got caught. Like he would never even bother lying. Yeah, and not worry about being caught. Yeah.

He would cop to it, but he wouldn't show remorse. Yeah. He'd just be like, yeah. Well, I there was some I don't know I saw some like thing.

It was like a red carpet, whatever. Julianne Moore. Yeah. That old that old that old private.

Sorry. That was that was real. It was real blue. Real hacking.

But Nicklson was like in a tux, it was on like events and the paparazzi they're like taking pictures and then he doesn't want it to happen. And he threatens the guy and he says something like, if you don't put that camera down, I'm going to push your face through the back of your scum. Not hit. Yeah.

Just very slowly and deliberately. Just push. Yeah. Just mush your face.

You hear creaking and then snapping and then mushing. Yeah. The bones cracking and the tendon snapping. Oh, does eyes popping and Nicholson with a face that he does not care.

Don't say I didn't warn you. Oh, local Jack. So I think we can all agree. Pretty good casting.

Yeah. Perfect casting. Duval too. Like she has a she's if you've ever seen I think probably if you don't know who Shelley Duval is you might her most famous work is the screen by Edvard Munch painting.

That's where you might know her from or her brief but memorable role in Annie Hall. Yeah. So either the screen or Annie Hall. She was also olive oil in Popeye, which is everyone's favorite movie.

Everyone's favorite but also I think the role she was born to fucking play. Yeah. She's built for she's built for oil. I wish we could title these episodes things other than the names of the movie because my votes for built for oil.

Yeah. She's gonna do my Daniel playing do but I just actually will come in time when you will come in time. Do you want to do yourself a band in my olive oil? I've abandoned my oil.

Do you want to go again? No. That was the cross exam you get a redirect now. I'm good.

Moving on. Yes. So then they get to the hotel and things. And we watched this.

It had been like a really long time since I'd seen it and I thought there was more of a drastic change in Nicholson. Yeah. Exactly. Like you said, like they're really he starts off bad and just gets a little he gets violent.

Yeah. That's the difference. Oh man. It and that's some of the I mean we have to talk about Stanley Kubrick here who is one of my favorite directors of all time.

An unpopular opinion. Yeah. The like oh my god the the shots some of the shots in this are pure magic. It is one perfect shot after one perfect shot.

Yeah. Every single frame of this is one perfect shot. It's almost too much to handle. It's so gorgeous.

It's kind of exhausting. Yeah. Sort of in the way where like I read a Jack Handy's novel. Yeah.

And it's just like joke after joke after joke and you need like a moment to collect yourself. Something like a palate. Yeah. It's just a bad shot.

Stanley Kubrick is unrelenting in his his skill as a cinematographer. Fine. Fine. This movie was also shot in sequence.

Was it really in order? Yeah. What are the advantages doing it? I guess you can there right?

It's one location. Why couldn't you do that? Yeah, you can. The advantages of it I guess.

As an actor that has to make it easier right? Probably. Especially for a movie with that kind of arc. Yeah, where by the end of it you have to be like so emotionally exhausted.

Yeah. Yes. I was really interested watching that Stanley Kubrick documentary. That we watched.

Yeah. To learn that because I'd always in my head I'd imagine it was a real stinker. A real stinker a very difficult person to work with. Everyone but Shelley Duvall is like oh he was the sweetest man.

But even Shelley Duvall. She was like I get why he did it. Yeah. Now she's like I get it.

Yeah. At the time like she was a disaster like. Of course. I don't think I would ever forgive him for doing that.

No. Yes, it's a great movie. Is it worth destroying someone for six months? Oh, I don't know.

It lives on. We're talking about it now on our podcast. True. So worth it.

Shelley if you're listening we're glad you got heard. But yeah everybody else in that documentary who had worked with him. Like every other actor. The span of his career.

That's just like great guy. Great guy. He's like smart, very focused, super focused. He's a perfectionist.

But like since I think whenever somebody says like oh he's difficult I wonder if he's actually difficult or if he's just like he's got standards. Yeah. And he's just like no we have to get it right. Right.

And like I won't accept anything less. That's I don't know. I don't know if that's true in other cases but that based on the tenor of right I heard in that documentary that seems to be the case. Right.

Although I'm sure you could also find like plenty of interviews that weren't included in that documentary. They were like fuck that guy he treated me very very poorly. Sure. I always forget that with documentaries is like they're representing one very specific point of view.

Yeah. But I still I love everything that he does. Yeah. Every shot is beautiful.

And he rained his big wheels around the hotel and like the sound design too. When he just hear it when he goes to the carpet versus the hardwood. Give me that that sweet sweet sound design. The way the sound of the tennis ball was Jack Nicholson's throwing it around.

Yep. The tennis ball is great. Every every every like the technical aspects of this movie are just so perfect. The set design as always is just like incredible.

It's great. Love it. In my notes here I have a first scene Jack Nicholson already scary. He's a writer.

Just like fucking. Three fucking Stephen King protagonist or not protagonist. Well there's always a writer in a Stephen King. Sorry.

The hotel is actually based on a real hotel in Colorado. I think the hotel is actually in Washington state. This hotel the overlook takes place in Colorado I think. But I was listening to a different podcast lore and it was all about this haunted hotel.

The hotel itself was haunted by the former owners. Oh this is husband and wife. And the way the podcast goes on about it is there was a guy that was staying there and he had this dream about going insane and murdering his family in the hotel and then he woke up and he was Stephen King. And then he wrote the shining.

Wow. Just like that. Basically that was it. I'm paraphrasing but more or less he woke up and he was like, oh Stephen King.

And I imagine he also did a mountain of cocaine and then wrote the shining. Yeah there was no snow in the actual hotel. That was just cocaine. The snow in this movie is symbolism for cocaine.

It's a metaphor. It's a metaphor. No I think it's interesting to know we love this movie. Stephen King hates it so much.

And I think he's a real grumpus for hating it. Well I have a quote from him here if you'd like to dissect it and shit all over him. Yes. Okay.

Yes please. The book is hot and the movie is cold. He said that. He's a true genius.

The book ends in fire and the movie and ice. In the book there's an actual arc where you see this guy Jack Torrance trying to be good and little by little he moves over to this place where he's crazy. And as far as I was concerned when I saw the movie Jack was crazy from the first scene. I had to keep my mouth shut at the time.

It was a screening and Nicholson was there but I'm thinking to myself the minute he's on screen oh I know this guy I've seen him in five motorcycle movies where Jack Nicholson played the same part. And it's so misogynistic. I mean Wendy Torrance has presented as this sort of screaming dish rag but that's just me. That's just the way I am.

So okay. I can't argue with anything. I'm prepared to. No no I do.

I'll tell you what. First of all Wendy Torrance saves the fucking day. Yeah she's not a screaming dish. She's screaming constantly.

Yeah and she's harrowed. She looks like a dish. But that said I would argue that like she her whole arc is like coming out of like a pattern of abuse. Yeah like she's kind of a really strong character in that respect.

Right she's an abuse victim the entire movie. Yes and she has to. And by the end of it she is an abuse survivor. Right.

Yeah she grabs her son out of the situation and you know leaves her husband for dead. Even like it takes a while for that to happen. Yeah there's even like like Scatman right as sort of like the surrogate father figure which he tries to like make himself. Like that's not enough.

I really like she has to be the one to like get him out and raise this kid. And that's like I don't know that element of the movie kind of gets lost because I think people do think of her that way and it gets overshadowed by like his arc from shitty to worse. Right. Jett Eglissen's arc from shit to worse.

Yeah. The sort of supernatural elements of the movie like make it a horror movie. And also then there's like all the like the colonialist stuff. Right.

Yeah. There's a lot going on in this movie and I think her storyline kind of gets glanced over. Yeah. Right.

Because it's easy to glance over because it's showing to all doing like that a really good job of playing this character. She's like the hysterical woman in like for a good part of the movie like and. She's self actualized by the end of it. We look past it but yeah.

She is like she is kind of the thing holding it all together. But it hurters. So movie exactly Danny does Danny. Don't worry.

That's that's how if you want to address me by name for the rest of this podcast. That's any episode. How good is Scott man? Her others love him.

Oh, he got 30 legs lamb. We have 15 whole chickens. He's the first one who talks to Danny about the shining. What's he called him?

Doc. Doc. That's right. Call him doc.

And which is what Shelley Devalle called him. And she's like, Hey, how'd you know that I called him that? And he's like, Oh, well, who? Well, he looks like a doc, right?

I don't know. That's not like, isn't that what he says? He does say that. Look at him.

Scott man. Oh, is he here with us? Well, just get me on. Let's see what it was right now.

Oh, nope. Nope. I know the answer to that question. There's so many great shots.

The blood coming out of the elevator. Great. Which is why they have to show it like three times. Yeah, they have every.

I never got sick of it. Never get sick of it. The one of my favorite scenes in the movie is when Nicholson is like, he was just accused, I think of no, he goes and he's had a fight with Wendy and he goes into the bar room and nothing is in there. He just sits down at the bar and he's just facing like the camera's got a straight on shot of him.

He's talking to it and he's like, it's talking to his bartender Lloyd and then he's looking right in the fucking camera. Yeah. And then the bartender's there and he pours him a drink. That whole scene, like the wife and the mum and my friend, you burn knuckle sandwich like they have a business.

So creepy and so well done by everybody. And then the scene in the bathroom, I really like the scene in the bathroom. Is that what you're going to say? Yeah.

Oh, man. It's like with Grady. It's weirdly like the most beautiful scene in the whole movie. Something about the colors of that bathroom and the angle is shot at because it's just a stationary shot.

Right. Nothing crazy is happening. It's not like a tracking shot, which is cool. Like him following Danny, him being Stanley Cooper.

But when you see Danny riding around the hotel, it's a great shot and it's iconic, but like something about that bathroom. Yeah, the bathroom is great. It's a great set piece. I guess because like the colors are so saturated, like it doesn't, that's not a bathroom that would exist anywhere in the real world.

Right. That is hell. Hell, hell bathroom. Right.

The bathroom in hell. Yes. If you crap in that bathroom, you have crap in hell. And who knows where to crap those when you flush the toilet?

Perhaps back up your butt because you're in hell. Oh, man. Every time you poop, it just goes further up your butt. Yeah.

Until it comes out of your mouth. Oh, yeah. Welcome to hell. This is a stupid, what we're saying.

I forgot where we were. We're talking about the bathroom being nice. Great. Yeah.

So I don't know. Oh, it just, Nicholson is just so fucking scary the whole time. It's great to me. It's just so good.

And the movie is so like, it's, I don't think it is, but people have described it as slow moving. I don't agree with that at all. I think it's so paced and like the build. When something happens, you're like, you're all in on it.

Like I don't, it doesn't ever to me feel like it drags. Like, people say 2001 drags. And I can see where they're coming from. I disagree.

I do too. I do too. It's the kind of thing where it feels like it's taking forever until you get to the end of it. And you sort of like, then you get the bigger picture and you see how everything makes sense.

Right. But you can't say that for this. Like it doesn't take that long. It's not a particularly long movie even.

Right. I think it's just around two hours. Yeah. Yeah.

No, it's just like, it happens fairly quickly. There's just not a lot of like shock scares, which is why I think people say it's slow. Right. Which, fuck you.

Yeah. Really, the only like shock scare at all is like when Danny is shining and you get those like quick flashes of scary twin blood. Yeah, twins being hacked up. Yeah.

That's pretty much it. And then I would argue that the man getting his dick sucked by the bear dog is also a shock scare because it's so disorienting. Like, yeah, but yeah, Shelley Duvall sees that. And she's like running around.

She's like, and she sees that. And like before that she saw like ghosts and skeletons and squeaky stuff. Yeah. Black cats.

Yep. Spider webs. A phantom of the opera playing in Oregon. And then she gets to a guy getting blow job by a weird bear dog.

Bear dog. Bear dog. Which could be the scariest. Oh, and the ghost blow jobs in general.

Ghost blow jobs, but then like furry ghost blow jobs. Yeah. Fuck man. New level.

How do you know what's crazy is so many people because like furries like a subculture now. Oh, yeah, it is. Well, I guess, I guess I, you know. Anyway, it's like a thing, which means I'm sure there are.

Thousands of people who had their sexual awakening when they saw that scene. Yes, there was. They felt something deep in their growing. I would love to get a ghost blow job from a bear dog.

Why not me? Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know.

Stephen, go back to Stephen King quote. I understand what he's saying about Nicholson. Yeah, but that's not. I don't think it's worse for that.

I think it's just a different story. Right. I think I do think that he's being kind of a stickler because he wrote. I'm like, you know, we're going to watch the shining mini series from the 90s, which is like nine hours.

So buckle up. But that one is closer to the book. And I don't think it's better because of it. Yeah.

Well, I mean, like in a lot of ways, that's it's not a more cliche storyline to have this man corrupted and sort of possessed. But I think it's less interesting. Yeah. I think it's less realistic to like this is from the get go.

You see this nastiness brewing in him and he is trying to he's trying to fight it, but in the way that people really fight those negative impulses, which is more like I want to be different without knowing how right, you know, and I don't know. I think it's fine. I think it's great. I love it.

It's great. It's the best. It's one of the best. I'm not so ever down here.

The actor, the little boy who played Danny did not know he was in a horror movie. You've told me that and we know what he was told. No, he's ever been in anything else either. Sorry.

I'm not sure. Yeah. But yeah, like that's how fun the environment was on the set. Yeah.

So if you're not a jellygibball. So he just did not know. He was just like, all right, look scared. Look like, yeah, look scared of Roger Big Wheels around.

Roger Big Wheels now pretend that you see a naked bath hack. Yeah. How would you? How would you face?

How? Oh, well, you want to talk about MBH? I would love to. That made that made I think the first time I saw it, that made more of an impression on me than anything else in this movie.

Yeah, that scene because she starts out as a beautiful naked woman, beautiful naked woman, but also like that, I'm talking about perfect casting. Like that makes that sounded so sweet. Talk about perfect casting. Ooh.

A foxy chair. But no, in all seriousness, she is like the lankiest person. She is the longest, spinliest, ghostliest limbs. Yeah, she's very slender.

And she's a real slender man. She's a real slender man. She doesn't, she looks not unnatural, but like super natural, I guess, like she does from the get go. She's just so like somebody drew her in pencil, you know, like a very pointed dislike doing that, like just little like trails off.

Yeah. So then like when you do get from the as soon as you see her, once she gets out of the tub, you're like, Oh shit, something is bad here. And you're obviously like, yeah, and it's like, but Nicholson is like, Hey, I'm in a hominocama hominocama. Yeah, he turns into a wolf.

Good job, yeah. Oh, yeah, just like he's really into it. He's like, I've been, I've been cooped up in this hotel with Shelley Duvall. Nothing to plug, but Shelley Duvall.

That's rude. But also a good name for this episode. Nothing to plug with Shelley Duvall. And he's totally into it.

He's like, yeah, whatever you got, I'm buying him. And he starts making out with her. And then he pauses and he says, wait a second, you're not a bath hag, are you? And she's like, Oh, am I?

I don't know. And then she is a bath hag. Such a bad. And she thinks it's hilarious.

She does. She starts cracking up. Yeah. You'll do fast one on old Nicholson.

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