30.4 - Sukkah Daf 37 B (3 lines Dn)

Today’s learning sponsored by Sponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click here  https://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTU=  Summary   Rabbah: The lulav shouldn’t be pushed into the bundle, because the leaves that come loose will form a chatzitzah.   Rava: Min b’mino eino chotzetz - Leaves of the same kind cannot be considered a chatzitzah.   Rabbah: The lulav shouldn’t be sawed off once it’s in the bundle, because loose lulav leaves will remain and form a chatzitzah.   Rava: Min b’mino eino chotzetz - Leaves of the same kind cannot be considered a chatzitzah.   Rabbah: The hadas set aside for the mitzvah should not be smelled, but the esrog may be smelled. The hadas is used for smelling, so it is set aside from smelling, but since an esrog is for eating too, it is set aside only from eating. [When one does a mitzvah with an object, he elevates that object. He thus sets it aside from its normal use in order to elevate it].  Rabbah: The hadas may be smelled (on Shabbos) while it’s attached to the ground, but the esrog may not be smelled. The hadas is used for smelling, so we’re not worried he will cut it off, but since an esrog is for eating too, he may cut it off the tree in order to eat it.  Rabbah: The lulav should be held in the right hand, and the esrog in the left hand. The lulav has three mitzvos but the esrog only has one.  Rabbi Yirmiyah to Rabbi Zrika: Why do we mention only the lulav in the bracha on the 4 minim (Al netilas lulav)?   [Rabbi Zrika]: Because it is taller than the rest.  [Rabbi Yirmiyah]: Let him lift the esrog up high?  Rabbi Zrika: It is the tallest object and most conspicuous.  Mishna:  Where are the naanuim made? At the beginning and end of [Rashi: the chapter of] Hodu LaHashem. Beis Hillel: And at Ana Hashem hoshia na. Beis Shamai: Also at Ana Hashem hatzlicha na.   Rabbi Akiva: I observed Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Yehoshua; although the people shook their lulavim, they only shook their lulavim at Ana Hashem hoshia na.   Gemara:   Question: Who said anything about shaking?   Response: This is following up on the mishna (24.4): “A lulav whose length is 3 tefachim [and another tefach] so that it can be shaken, is kosher.” So the question here is, when is the lulav shaken. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate