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EPISODE · Sep 1, 2025 · 1H 15M

#30: Bernie Michaels and the chaos behind black holes

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In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby, Dawson, and special guest Bernie Michaels dive into the hidden patterns of chaos and the strange gravitational dance of black holes. Bernie, a self-proclaimed chaos math savant, unpacks how tiny changes can lead to cosmic-scale consequences — from galaxies colliding to the unpredictable orbits that shape the universe.We explore whether black holes act like strange attractors, how fractals might be written into the very fabric of spacetime, and whether the universe’s most terrifying objects might also be the birthplace for all life as we know it. Along the way, we wrestle with questions of order versus disorder, philosophy versus physics, and whether humanity’s own chaotic minds mirror the cosmos.It’s a conversation that swings between hard science, big-picture wonder, and playful curiosity. Buckle up — the void is stranger (and more beautiful) than it seems.---JOIN OUR LIVE SHOW ON SEPTEMBER 7 AT 7p CENTRAL TIME (GMT-5) AT THIS LINK!https://riverside.fm/studio/kolby-van-camps-studio-eMegKFollow us on Instagram! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/spacebetweenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠Order Kolby's new album! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kolbyvancamp.hearnow.com/portraits-volume-ii⁠

In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby, Dawson, and special guest Bernie Michaels dive into the hidden patterns of chaos and the strange gravitational dance of black holes. Bernie, a self-proclaimed chaos math savant, unpacks how tiny changes can lead to cosmic-scale consequences — from galaxies colliding to the unpredictable orbits that shape the universe.We explore whether black holes act like strange attractors, how fractals might be written into the very fabric of spacetime, and whether the universe’s most terrifying objects might also be the birthplace for all life as we know it. Along the way, we wrestle with questions of order versus disorder, philosophy versus physics, and whether humanity’s own chaotic minds mirror the cosmos.It’s a conversation that swings between hard science, big-picture wonder, and playful curiosity. Buckle up — the void is stranger (and more beautiful) than it seems.---JOIN OUR LIVE SHOW ON SEPTEMBER 7 AT 7p CENTRAL TIME (GMT-5) AT THIS LINK!https://riverside.fm/studio/kolby-van-camps-studio-eMegKFollow us on Instagram! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/spacebetweenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠Order Kolby's new album! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kolbyvancamp.hearnow.com/portraits-volume-ii⁠

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