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The Space Between
by Fractal Studios Podcast Network
The Space Between is a leading astronomy and science communication podcast hosted by Kolby Van Camp and Dawson Wagner. Each week, we dive into the wonders of the universe, exploring astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology, and more, through curiosity-driven conversations with scientists, thinkers, explorers, and communicators.Our mission is simple: make complex ideas about space accessible, engaging, and human. From Nobel Prize-winning physicists to rising voices in the astronomy community, The Space Between bridges cutting-edge science with everyday curiosity.
Episodes
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#36: Winding down 2025 with the Aurora Borealis
We have much to be thankful for in 2025! Kolby provides an update on the show to get things started, highlights the extraordinary nature of our year with this podcast, and the exciting future releases of 2026. Similarly, enjoy our conversation about the Aurora Borealis that folks across the world...
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#35: Quantum computers on the moon (data centers in space, part 2)
Order a "What the Fractal?" t-shirt now! Explore The Space Between Astronomy Podcast merch store: https://the-space-between-podcast.printify.me/ --- In this episode of The Space Between, we venture to the far side of the Moon—not for radio silence or alien bases, but for quantum computation. As...
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UPDATE: We're still here! Dope content drops next week!
A quick update for all our loyal fans here on the Space Between!
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#34: Space and storytelling with Helena Cochrane
Order a "What the Fractal?" t-shirt now! Explore The Space Between Astronomy Podcast merch store: https://the-space-between-podcast.printify.me/ ---In this episode of The Space Between, we sit down with astrophotographer, filmmaker, and YouTuber Helena Cochrane to explore how art, science, and...
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#33: Data centers in space (part 1)
Order a "What the Fractal?" t-shirt now! Explore The Space Between Astronomy Podcast merch store: https://the-space-between-podcast.printify.me/ --- In this episode of The Space Between, we explore a bold new frontier in digital infrastructure: data centers in space. As the world’s appetite for...
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#32: The Web-Halo Model with Dr. Samuel Brieden
In this episode of The Space Between, we explore a breakthrough in cosmological modeling: the Web-Halo Model, developed by Dr. Sam Brieden and his team. For decades, cosmologists have relied on the halo model to describe how matter clumps together in the universe, but it struggled to capture the...
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#31: Is science wrong about the age of the universe?
In this episode of The Space Between, we dive headfirst into one of the hottest debates in modern cosmology: the true age of the universe and what new data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) means for our understanding of cosmic expansion. Headlines are screaming “crisis” and claiming the...
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#30: Bernie Michaels and the chaos behind black holes
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby, Dawson, and special guest Bernie Michaels dive into the hidden patterns of chaos and the strange gravitational dance of black holes. Bernie, a self-proclaimed chaos math savant, unpacks how tiny changes can lead to cosmic-scale consequences — from...
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#29: Surviving the lunar night with the thermoelectric solution
Far from Earth, the Moon presents explorers with an unforgiving puzzle: two weeks of searing daylight followed by two weeks of frozen night. For any future habitat, this isn’t just an inconvenience—it’s a survival crisis. How do you keep the lights on, the air flowing, and the water unfrozen when...
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#28: What's lurking beyond the edge of the solar system?
Far beyond the orbit of Pluto lies a silent frontier—the frozen edge of the solar system, where light fades, and time seems to stretch. In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore the discovery of 2023 KQ14, an ancient, distant object nicknamed Ammonite. It's one of only a...
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#27: What's really happening with 3I/ATLAS?
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson dive headlong into the extraordinary cosmic guests gracing our solar system in 2025—starting with 3I/ATLAS, the third confirmed interstellar object ever observed. Is it a comet from a forgotten star system older than our own… or, as some have...
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#26: The Orion Nebula, Pleiades, and Hyades are... related?
In this episode of The Space Between, Kolby and Dawson explore the cosmic family tree hiding in plain sight: the Orion Nebula, the Pleiades, and the Hyades. New research suggests these iconic star clusters aren’t just neighbors in the night sky—they’re snapshots of the same stellar system at...
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#25: Dr. Patricia Henning - Very Large Array Series
The VLA and NRAO approved our content for release! Enjoy the second of a small series of interviews we conducted with scientific personnel this last March at the VLA and the NRAO. Kolby and Dawson sit down with the Associate Director of the NRAO, Dr. Patricia Henning, to discuss the workings of…
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#24: Summer Ash at the VLA - Very Large Array Series
The VLA and NRAO approved our content for release! Enjoy the first of a small series of interviews we conducted with scientific personnel this last March at the VLA and the NRAO. Kolby, Dawson, and Ben sit down on-site with NRAO STEAM Education Manager and Visitor Experience and Guided Tour…
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#23: Lost in space, sort of
Kolby and Dawson break down a recent development where two astronauts are potentially being left on the International Space Station for a significant period of time due to a technical malfunction, plus a really cool public initiative that the European Space Agency has put together to engage the...
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#22: Fungi, an unlikely space ally
Kolby and Dawson discuss fungi in space, its durability, NASA's plans for how it can be used, and whether a hypothesis that it provides access to a deeper level of understanding to the universe.
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#21: Caves on the moon and rockets to Mars
Kolby and Dawson fire up season 3 with some space news about caves on the moon, the technology needed to explore further into our solar system, and Space X's newest missile launch.
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UPDATE: Getting back to the basics
Hey all. We so appreciate your support over these strange last nine months. The times have changed, the expectations in our lives have changed, and we just want to get back to the basics. You have been awesome for a long time - and we want to keep connecting with you. No frills, no monetization,...
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#20: Recap of our Very Large Array trip
Kolby, Dawson, and Ben recap their trip to the Very Large Array.
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#19: To UAP or not to UAP, that is the question
Kolby and Dawson discuss the latest in the American governmental findings regarding UAPs and the conflicting messaging it sends.
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#18: To the moon and beyond
Kolby and Dawson break down the recent landing of Odysseus on the moon, the expansion of inter-solar technology, and what that means for the future of humanity.
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#17: Planets, exoplanets, and more
Kolby and Jimmy enjoy a little bit of a relax day with Dawson out of the country and discuss planets, exoplanets, movies, and more.
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#16: The power of radio telescopes
Kolby and Dawson discuss radio telescopes, their upcoming trip to the Very Large Array and the wonders of the Event Horizon Telescope.
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#15: Josh Dury, dark sky activism, and astrophotography
Kolby and Dawson sit down with one of the UK's most prominent astrophotographers, Josh Dury - AKA Starman - to discuss his recent success, frequent collaborations with the BBC, dark sky activism, and what it takes to make it as a professional photographer of the night sky.
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#14: Trevor Jones and AstroBackyard
Kolby and Dawson sit down with one of the most prominent YouTube astrophotographers in the world, Trevor Jones from AstroBackyard, to discuss astrophotography, being a YouTuber, astronomy, and making a living out of your passions.
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#13: John Mather and the James Webb Space Telescope
Kolby and Dawson sit down with 2006 Nobel Laureate in Physics and the senior astrophysicist for the James Webb Space Telescope through NASA, Dr. John Mather, to discuss JWST, putting telescopes in orbit around the solar system, the Fermi Paradox, and so much more, here on The Space Between.
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#12: AI and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence
Kolby and Dawson break down recent developments with AI and machine learning, how that is and could impact the space industry, and whether we as a civilization have been looking for extraterrestrial intelligence in the wrong place all along.
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#11: Bettymaya Foott, astrophotography, and the DarkSky Initiative
Kolby and Dawson sit down with prominent astrophotographer and light pollution reduction advocate, Bettymaya Foott. Bettymaya's photography has been featured in the Los Angeles Times and National Geographic. She is also a key representative for the DarkSky Initiative organization which advocates...
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#10: Telescopes and time travel
Kolby and Dawson break down the power of telescopes like the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) and the Giant Magellan Telescope and their ability to "travel back in time" using simple physics to see the dim and distant past at the beginning of the universe.
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#9: Lado Samushia and dark matter
Kolby and Dawson sit down with associate professor of physics at Kansas State University, Dr. Lado Samushia, to discuss his expertise in dark matter and dark energy and the research he is conducting in the field of cosmology.
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#8: NASA, UAPs, and mummies
Kolby and Dawson break down the latest space news as NASA drops their much-anticipated findings on UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena), and two alleged "alien mummies" were displayed to the Mexican government.
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#7: Is life possible on Mars?
Kolby and Dawson break down the latest on news from Mars relating to the building blocks of life, India's mission to the moon, and let's be honest: did Pluto really deserve the demotion?
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#6: Listening to the universe through sonifcation
Kolby and Dawson break down how scientists are experiencing the universe in a new way through a process called sonification, as well as discussing the new reflection nebula that Nico Carver (see episode #2!) discovered this week.
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#5: Is our universe inside a black hole?
Kolby and Dawson break down a fascinating theory from Nobel Prize winning physicist Sir Roger Penrose regarding the idea that our universe is constantly being reborn and could potentially be inside of a black hole.
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#4: Has the space race already been won?
Kolby and Dawson break down the history of the Space Race, what does it mean today, should space exploration be privatized, and the implications of becoming a Type 1 Civilization.
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#3: Quasars, blazars, and pulsars, oh my!
In today's episode, Kolby and Dawson break down the insane interstellar objects that are quasars, blazars, and pulsars. That, plus science news about a potential nearby supernova and the reality that not all infinities are the same size as other infinities should get your science itch scratched...
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#2: Nico Carver and astrophotography
Kolby sits down with prominent YouTuber and astrophotographer, Nico Carver, of the channel Nebula Photos to discuss astrophotography, the wonders of exploring the night sky, and successful YouTubing on a niche topic.
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#1: David Kipping and the Cool Worlds Lab
Kolby sits down with Columbia University professor Dr. David Kipping to discuss some of David's fascinating ideas and papers on exomoons, turning the earth into a telescope, and whether or not life exists beyond us, somewhere in the space between.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Space Between is a leading astronomy and science communication podcast hosted by Kolby Van Camp and Dawson Wagner. Each week, we dive into the wonders of the universe, exploring astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology, and more, through curiosity-driven conversations with scientists, thinkers, explorers, and communicators.Our mission is simple: make complex ideas about space accessible, engaging, and human. From Nobel Prize-winning physicists to rising voices in the astronomy community, The Space Between bridges cutting-edge science with everyday curiosity.
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