30 Years Of Manipulation vs. The Insanity Defense — Why Nick Reiner's History May Destroy His Only Chance

The defense exists. David Carmichael proved it works. In 2004, he planned his son's murder, researched the charges, expected prison — and walked free after two years in a psychiatric facility because a psychotic delusion changed what he believed he was doing.Nick Reiner's defense team will likely argue the same standard applies. His medication for schizoaffective disorder was changed one month before the killings. He reportedly admits to killing his parents but believes his incarceration is a conspiracy against him. Under the M'Naghten rule used in California, that could be enough — if jurors believe him.But there's a problem Carmichael didn't have: history.Carmichael had no record of manipulation. Nick Reiner has 30 years of it. His own father said experts repeatedly warned the family Nick was "lying or manipulating them." More than 18 treatment facilities cycled him through short stays that satisfied the system without producing change. Boundaries softened. Intervention fatigue set in. The family normalized chaos until it became routine.Retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke examines the behavioral patterns emerging from this case. He explains why post-offense behavior matters — Nick reportedly checked into a hotel and navigated LA for 24 hours after the killings. There was calm movement, time, decision-making. Serious mental illness does not automatically eliminate awareness, planning, or accountability.Robin breaks down how families adapt to warning signs instead of acting on them, how repeated short-term compliance can function as system management rather than recovery, and why the story someone tells after the act deserves the most scrutiny.This episode doesn't ask for sympathy. It asks whether a defense that worked for someone with no manipulation history can work for someone who's spent a lifetime perfecting it.#NickReiner #RobReiner #MicheleReiner #RobinDreeke #DavidCarmichael #InsanityDefense #MNaghten #BehaviorAnalysis #ReinerCase #TrueCrimeJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.