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I'm not woo hooing after having to listen to you. You woo hoo! That was a very unenthusiastic woo hoo. It was a brat woo.
Whatever brat woo. I can brat woo's your new name. Shut up brat woo. Hello and welcome to Pivert of Podcasts with Shorey Exploring the Adventures of the Kinky Lifestyle Sex and the Human Mind.
Recording live from a two bright Thursday night for Boogie. I'm Kathy. I'm Kathy. I'm in front of the Starbucks to get the free Wi-Fi.
I literally have white grocery outlet plastic bags in the windows to block up like literally. If I look homeless before, I look homeless now. I can't resist these white plastic bags. People are like, wow, but they get it.
The sun's blaring right in and I can't see anything. You can't see anything on your laptops. For those of you who don't know, California has a daylight savings and all of a sudden it's six o'clock and it's bright as noon. Boogie can't see his laptop.
Damn it. Now we're going to have to start recording later and get into the zone. But it's better. I think Pivert of Podcasts is more of a night tiny kind of night.
Kind of dirty dark thing. We used to record late and it was like all scandalous with girls. I have been on the phone, Kathy. With women?
Yeah, women and dudes and people and trying to reconnect with people and think about people. I want to say something nice to them because they're awesome and whatever. I've been reaching out to people and trying to make more of a habit instead of thinking about myself and how pathetic I am. If you're having a bad day, get out of yourself and just reach out to someone you think is awesome and tell them they're awesome.
A lot of our listeners are awesome. Yes, oh my god, you don't know how awesome that is. You don't know how awesome. So I talked to Mel today for a little bit because she's like I had to talk to you because I had a dream about you and it wasn't a bad dream.
She's pretty dedicated to her, which is good because I put a block up there so she doesn't lust for me because she's got to solve the thing with her. Because you know, pretty much all women that I don't put a block on want my cock on. That's how it works. And how do you put said block on?
Did you just see that? I just blocked literally 200,000 women right there. I'm not surprised. And you are one of them.
Yay! You've been blocked. What? Do you want me, Kathy?
Is that what it is? You secretly wish you could have a cock? I'm very happy I'm blocked. Thank you.
Okay. Well, they're good there. It's efficient. Win, win.
Fucking boobrat. Shh! I'm talking to Mel. She's telling me, you know, we start talking about movies and whatever and I am legend and she doesn't like zombie movies because they give her dreams.
But then she had this, she got this one zombie dream. She's like, but yeah, they didn't eat people. They ate shit. What?
Shit eating zombies. What? So you weren't scared because they were going to eat you. You were afraid they were going to bite you and then you were going to have to eat boob.
Oh my God. Oh, we start going on. She starts laughing. I'm all, are you fucking kidding me?
She's all, yeah. And I'm like, you should eat and zombie. And I'm like, that's a great like insult name. And so we started and I'm like, shh!
Eat and zombie motherfucker. And then I realized, and I've talked about this on the show, if you want to test what's a good name to call someone, like a good insult name, you can use almost anything as long as you put fucking in front of it. And I'm like, it works with anything. And I'm all, you fucking wet roll a toilet paper.
And it works. It kind of works. If you put fucking in a little bit of it, like you can point at anything. You fucking empty Starbucks coffee cup fucking asshole.
Add fucking asshole at the end. Almost anything. I want to try it. Okay, try it something and just do it with intention.
You fucking flame retardant blanket. It works. It does. It totally works.
So Mel is giggling because I'm just pointing at everything in storage. I'm like, you fucking Jack Jack necklace. What the fuck's wrong with you? And you just keep that intention.
We're just laughing pointing at shit. And I'm all, you have to do one. And she's like, she starts getting all giggly. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, Mel, just point at something and say fucking and then say it. And this goes on for five minutes. And I go, believe in yourself. This now becomes like a point of training.
I'm like fucking see, fool master. And she's like fucking padawan. And I'm going to get her to fucking break past her giggles and insecurity until the joke. And all of a sudden, you know, because Mel's very shy and giggly.
And all of a sudden that in nowhere. She goes, you fucking pile a dirty laundry. And I go, that's amazing. Because that's actually an insult because when you see a pile of dirty laundry, you can say so many things.
You lazy fucking, because when you see a pile of dirty laundry, what do you think? Why didn't that motherfucker fucking clean the laundry? Uh huh. You know, so that was the best joke of the day.
Mel just fucking dug deep. She pulled out. You fucking pile a dirty laundry. Go fucking get a job.
Go do something. I can't believe you. Don't you? You know, you're just sitting in the store and shit all day yelling shit out, insulting your belongings.
Oh my God. Yeah, they hear me all day long and then I open the door and I'm like, hello. It's like very quickly turned back to their shit. Oh my God.
So what did you do this week? Please tell me that there was some sort of fucking dick that shoved in you somewhere. There was a dick shoved in me, man. Good.
And in both orifices that I enjoy. And there was a goodly amount of spanking because I have a big fucking mouth, man. I can't keep quiet. No.
And some, hey, I know you don't know this about me, but I, I'm out of often and it's usually an asurbic or sarcastic comment. And sometimes they just fly out of my fucking mouth. I can't stop that. That is the weirdest, weirdest thing, Catherine.
Isn't it? You would never have thought it of me. You wouldn't have known. You've been such a woo angel for the last six years.
So you mouth to have to wrap your ass. A whole bunch of times. And he gets this gleam in his eye because I honestly, I'm not, I'm actually, there's a little bit of joking what I'm saying. But there is an almost inability I have when something happens and I'm in that mood to keep my fucking mouth shut.
And sometimes I realize when I'm halfway through saying something and I look over and he's looking at me and he's making his way over to me. I'm like, no, no, no, he just, and he loves it and I love it. So we have a great time. It's hilarious, but I also find it, I don't, I find annoying because I don't like it when there are parts of my life that are out of my control.
And that seems to be one of them. I get around that fucking man and I start getting sarcastic and just go, Oh, well, excuse me. Your highness and I can't stop it. So no, when do he sticks with you?
I know. That's funny. You got to go to brat anonymous or something. I do.
All right. My name is Kathy and my life has become bratty unmanageable. Oh, I got the you'll get a welcome ship and you'll be all, what the fuck is that? Well, gotta take that ship away.
Take that. Give us the chip back. Sit down. Try again later.
It lasted five minutes. It lasted five minutes. They have like 30 day chip and a 60 day chip. Do they have a five minute chip?
Actually do. There are some meetings. It's a black chip and they're all 10 minutes. You've survived 10 minutes.
Congratulations. Here's a reward. That would totally be. That's fucking awesome.
That's fucking awesome. Let's get into some magic. All right. Well, you and a co-ins play, but then they fuck each other in the ass with their horns because that's the kind of freaky shit that happens on that line.
Well, Kathy, I guess now we will try another attempt. Hopefully this segment will have slightly better sound than the rest of the show. Well, it couldn't have worse sound. Let me tell you that.
Don't jinx it. Oh, shoot. I keep forgetting about this. Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ. By the way, I've heard about it. I know the last 12 minutes that you heard the audio was really bad because my Zen caster changed it to my laptop mic and we didn't know it until after. So, but after this segment, it'll go right back to me sounding shitty again.
So, let's call this the eye, but it's an important topic. So, I would like us to sound clear. Yeah. Kathy, would you proceed with our lovely Fed Life topic?
Yes. Seductive Poetry has very, very nicely granted us permission to discuss his post entitled, The Most Important Status Update Anyone Can Ever Make. And when I read first of all that title, I'm all, oh man, I wonder what it is. This is going to be either really good or really horrifying to read.
So, he says, I seductive poetry have herpes. I contracted it from a partner about a year ago. I thought my sex life was over. I thought your no one would want to have anything to do with me because of the stigma the SDI carries.
You oftentimes hear the words nasty and trashy associated with herpes. But this is usually furthest from the truth. At least, it definitely is in my case. Neither I nor my partner were or are nasty or trashy.
We're not promiscuous either. I take the necessary precautions when engaging with a new partner. I always make them aware of my status and my potential risks. I offer them links to literature so that they can have a completely informed decision when we proceed.
This is the part that makes me a bit nervous though because once the information of your status is out there, it becomes public knowledge for anyone to share as a please, which is unsettling to say the least. But I felt that it was time to divulge this information. Up until this point, I have been very transparent about my information, but this is something different. In the past, I've had people use information I posted here against me, going so far as to message vanilla friends with my information.
It was only with the help of some very special women in my life that I was able to muster up the guts to share this with the rest of you. I seductive poetry have herpes, and it's not the end of the world. Goddamn bravo! Drop the mic, pick up the mic, drop it again.
I want to pick it up and drop it up because I got to tell you, this man has the kind of guts that I don't think I have. Really? Yes, I really, really. It's one thing.
I know it sounds crazy, but the internet is crazy, and we're crazy. So you have different perceptions and you agree to some things even though they don't make sense and decide not to do other things because they make no sense. So I'm talking about my herpes, which is only herpes one on my mouth. I get cold sores, and I've talked about it on the show.
So I know lots of people have heard it, but there's something about posting it online where it will live pretty much forever, and where anybody can read it. And as he says, in his case in particular, he's had people use what he's written on FET Life against him and given it out to his vanilla friends. It's a completely different animal, and it really puts the fear of God into me. I am so frightened of writing something that someone can pull and then show it to people I know because I feel like it's out of my control.
And you know what? He's absolutely fucking right. I don't care how enlightened this society is. I don't care how much information is out there that we have access to where we all know that so many people have herpes and that it's manageable in this day and age.
When you hear herpes and you see a cold sore on someone or you imagine it somewhere on their body, you do think trashy. He is 100% right. And so that stigma seems to have legs. It's just not going away.
So I applaud him tremendously. And I think it's amazing. It's fucking amazing as far as I'm concerned. Kathy, first off, stop being so goddamn hyper testicles.
Yes, you're being hyper testicles. First off, you in four minutes have monologued the complete fear from doing what is absolutely right, which is understandable because it's a real deal. By the way, when I call you hyper testicles, that's my new thing instead of calling someone a pussy because testicles are more sensitive than pussies and I like pussies. So we're now going to start a new thing.
That's like the Jison. Stop being so testicles, Kathy. Stop being testicles. Oh my God.
So that's your attempt at saying you're a fucking whip. Get out the fucking fool. That's exactly what I'm saying about this. And I'll say why you represent a large, probably majority of the opinions about embracing your disabilities or obstacles or challenges physically that people have.
You are absolutely correct about the stigma that surrounds herpes two and even herpes one. It is absolutely understandable, but I'm going to come from the complete other angle. And that angle is, is there is power in putting in people's face. This is who I am.
You can't hurt me with this information anymore because it's now out to everybody. I'll use the example of my erectile dysfunction that I have talked about on the show ad nauseam and they jokes and jokes and I've songs about my limp dick and I have power because you can't hurt me if I've taken ownership of this. And this poster has taken ownership of his skin condition. And that's all herpes is.
It's a fucking skin condition. Oh yeah. And we're going to talk a little bit about that. I of course did research.
I've done lots of research. I've had lots of experience in and out and surrounded with herpes two. It's a skin condition. The statistics are for type one, like you have, like you got from your fucking relatives.
By the way, stop letting your fucking relatives slobber all over your babies because that's where herpes one cold source mostly comes from. And I forget who was on the show that said that, but she said that in my mind was just blown and I'm like, that is wives millions of babies get herpes. I always had cold source because you're fucking gross fucking and a slobber all over your face while she had a cold star. So that's it.
Okay. That's a rant. Wait, wait, and then and then you grow up into adulthood and you go down on somebody and you give them herpes two or you give them herpes one on their genitals. I didn't even I didn't even know that that was possible.
But that's crazy. All right. Go ahead. Well, here's there's so many facts.
Literally for type two herpes, it's it's anywhere between 12% and one in four. One in four. Let's just say it's the 12%. That means one out of eight.
One out of eight people listening to this show right now. We got about a thousand people a week. That's a hundred and twenty. That's about a hundred and twenty.
Wait. Yeah. Twelve. About hundred and twenty.
I'm not testicles. That means a hundred and twenty of our listeners right now have fucking type two herpes and half of them have type one. I know I have type one. I test for it.
I have still surprisingly I've been with in my younger days. I had two partners that I knew of that had type two. And of course, I was young and stupid and didn't get fucking. That was that was 25 30 years ago.
We didn't understand about viral shedding and the percentages and stuff like that. It was just like, okay, if you don't have bumps, then, you know, then we'll just we'll fuck. Yeah. And I never got it.
I've had multiple multiple tests since. I had one scare. I don't know if you remember the scare. It was pre show.
And this was horrible. And this is why I'm passionate about ownership of this to the point because if we continue to own this and we have more people that come forward and say this is normal. Yeah, of course, nobody. Nobody wants to get anything that creates an obstacle to you physically.
And obviously, we have work to do on it socially. So nobody wants that. But the more we talk about it and the more we normalize, it's just a skin condition. It is not a skin condition.
It is not some monster that crawls all over your body and then all of a sudden, like the aunt zombies, like all of a sudden you're controlled and you're going to spit out fucking scabs of fucking toxicity onto people. Well, I mean, literally, that's what people stigmatize this as. Of course. It sounds like a horror.
It's no different than what, psoriasis or excoma. How do you say that? Excoma. I have it.
I have lizard foot. I've talked about lizard foot. My and it's embarrassing. I keep a sock on because my foot has been shedding like lizard flaky ugly skin for 20 years.
And we just call it lizard foot. And I have to, and it's embarrassing because I used to think I had good feet. And now one of them sheds like literally like I rub the bottom of my foot. It's like a fucking snow globe.
I think that you're more embarrassed about that than if you had herpes. Well, because I'm not as more knowledgeable about herpes than what's going on with my foot. I'm like, what the fuck is it? So it's lizard foot, but you embrace it like this guy, like this poster.
You embrace it and we make it normal because the amount of people that have it, you can't ignore that number. And you can't call 12% of humanity a whore because as hard as I try to make the world a whore with me. Most people are not fucking trashy whores, but somehow they still got herpes because it's easy to transfer. And that's what we need to deal with the fact that it's a skin condition.
It is uncomfortable. There can be some dangers with it with pregnancy and childbirth. And you know, but it's not the end of the world. It is not because there's so many of us that have that.
You just said viral shedding. Let's talk about that for a minute. Yeah, I didn't know that. You didn't know about that.
Ten percent of the time you are what is called viral shedding. And that means that at certain times the virus sheds and releases particles into the system that are still contagious. And you don't know when it is. You don't know when viral shed.
You can see when there's a bump or a sore, but you don't know viral shedding, you know, works its way internally outward. And sometimes you don't even know you don't have a bump, but you're still contagious at that time. And so they don't know how to figure out when that happens. Maybe there's someday there'll be a swab or something that'll show you.
Which is important because up until this point, I'm going to say that this is a viral shedding when it comes to herpes. There's a relatively new information that has come out. I'm going to say relatively because since herpes has been around for so long, we've been hearing about it for a while. And up until a short while ago, we were always told you're fine as long as you don't have an open sore.
That's the point where you're contagious. And then suddenly we started hearing about viral shedding and that it's possible to pass the virus on when you don't even know you're contagious. Which we're used to when it comes to colds, but we're not used to when it comes to herpes. Quite frankly, it was my one saving grace is I'm not having a cold sore.
I've had them off in enough throughout the course of my life because I've had them since I was a kid that I know when I can feel them starting to come on and then I tell whatever partner I'm with, or I back off because I can feel them coming on. But then I keep up on the whole herpes thing and I was reading about that I'm like, fuck me, goddamn it. Now I don't even know when I'm not going to take it. You don't know.
And that's I think if you're going to be honest about feelings, that's a more legitimate stigma is that herpes makes it's there's an element that you don't know. And so there's always an underlying risk. Obviously it's not a complete risk because I like I said, I had I've had a couple partners that I know of. I've been with a lot of partners.
So I'm sure if it's 12% then knowing or unknowing, I've probably been with other people and I still test negative. You kind of have to bullshit when you're getting the test, at least on the free level. I go to all the free clinics. I'm going to have to tell them, hey, I had sex with somebody that let me know they have type 2 herpes so I need to test for it because they don't want to test for it.
I guess it's got some more or something. No, yeah, that's a good thing you bring that up. I had that on my list when it comes to testing. A lot of people think, oh, I'm just going to get the full STI panel and then I'll be good and they show the sheet to their partner and they're like, see, I'm good.
But the most people don't realize that you don't get automatically tested for herpes. You have to ask for it. Yeah, you have to ask for it. And in the clinics kind of send, you know, you kind of have to bullshit.
At least I do and say and then they don't argue with you. They're just all okay, you know, whatever. But if you have a regular HMO, you know, insurance, whatever you have, you can tell them you want that and they'll give it to you. But it is true.
And now I'll kind of segue. I'm so hot on this topic and so inspired. And I got to thank our poster. I got to thank our poster for that because his bravery to be open about it and talk about it generates an excitement for information in others.
And that is one of the things. And nobody wants to be a champion for something they don't want. But that's just a reality. You have it.
And are you going to own it? I fucking sing about erectile dysfunction. It's the most humiliating, emasculating fucking thing in my world. More than anything else.
I don't want to have a limp fucking dick. I don't want to have to take Viagra, which puts me at risk for heart attacks and strokes. So I can fucking do the thing that is my favorite thing to do in life. But that's the fucking cards, kiddo.
That's how life treated me. I could have died in a bomb when I was fucking nine years old in a war torn country. So I made it to 52 and this is one of the things I have to deal with. But by doing that, it empowers you and it empowers the people around you to also be brave.
And it's a champion you may not want to be. But once you start seeing, we had a listener. Who was a partner of ours? And I wanted to, I tried to call yesterday to talk to them about it.
Because we were partners with them. Fuckin, I love this woman. She is so fucking. She is just sexy inside and out.
And she's got a great mind and she's a lot of fun. And she's so cool. And then we stopped seeing her for about a year and a half. And then she came kind of back and I talked to her.
And I said, so what have you been up to? And she's all, well, getting herpes, apparently. And she was in the early stages of that discovery. She had a partner.
I don't remember if she knew who did it or not. But now she has herpes too. And that does create a conflict. I'm not going to say, I mean, you and I talked about you is very adamant.
If someone is, I love them dearly, but we can't have sex. And she doesn't want to be with somebody that has sex with people that knowingly have type 2. This is a real thing. Because, oh, I know.
That's a sad part of all of this. We're applauding him and we really try the poster and we really try and advocate for that. And the problem is, though, the problem is always going to be that when you are open with partners, you have to accept that sometimes those partners are just going to say, I'm out. Thank you for the information.
But I don't think I want to chance that and that type of rejection is not fun. If I can suck to be rejected for something that you have no control over, they happen to you. You didn't seek this out. You didn't do anything wrong.
And so that's something you have to come to terms with. You and I, Boogie, I'm glad that you brought up how you deal with your erectile dysfunction is. You're going to put it out there because now it's out there. It can't hurt you.
You can't be hurt by you. They make all the jokes they want. They're funny. I get it.
It's not a laugh at the shit that happens to you. And that's something that you and I very much have in common. It's one of the things that we bond over is our cynical sense of humor in which we both deal with the very tough topics in life by joking about them in the most caustic way. And a lot of people don't understand us.
And there are very few people in my life that I can turn to in order to deal with the shit sometimes of my life that happens sometimes and discussing that way because that's how I deal with it. Is I need to be able to say it and laugh about it. And so I'll say, you know, I'm just fat, old, ugly and broke. That's who I am.
That's how I deal with the fact that my body isn't behaving the way I want it to behave and growing old sucks. And I can't seem to get out of some of the situations I'm in. And that's the way I do it. And if you can't deal with it, there is a significant portion of my life I'm not going to share with you because that's how I deal with tough shit like this.
It's something that you tough things like this. You have to find a way of dealing with them because life happens to you. As you say, we're not living in a worse situation like a lot of people on this planet. But this kind of thing can really fuck with you.
And finding a way to deal with a rejection that happens when you confront a partner and they say I'm out is part of this. I wish someone else wrote a post about it because it's a very real thing. You're right, Boogie. Just like you.
If someone was honest with me and said, I have genital herpes, I would not have sex with them. Especially now when I have found out about viral shedding because that makes it even harder to determine if you're in danger of getting in. Well, here's the good news about this, if there is good news. And good news is adaptability and good news is taking control and being a champion of your own obstacles.
We already deal with rejection by being kinky, by being polyamorous. So I'm used to rejection all the time. And I understand that the amount of people that I'm going to be able to play with are going to be very, very specific. In that sense, I can kind of understand the rejection and the fear of rejection because there's a lot of people that I've met.
And I'm like, this person is amazing. And they're like, ew, kink, no, ew, you know, mental illness, no, ew, homeless person, no, ew, any number of things that we do creates an environment for rejection. And this is one to throw on top of it. And it has a lot of stigma, which obviously now we're trying to reduce.
But there, but you have 12% of people that have herpes. That have herpes too, which will understand what it's like because they have it as well too. There are dating sites for herpes positive people. There are groups are endless groups online.
It is now becoming more understood that lots and lots of people have this. So as we keep moving forward to normalize it, the options and the rejection rate is going to be less. And there are a lot of people that do still have sex with you. There are still a lot of partners that still say, I'm going to, I mean, I was told by two different partners and I still did.
So I think it sucks. There's nothing that doesn't suck about any physical obstacle you have. And surely not something that has the potential for rejection. But that's where the ownership comes in.
I don't ever have to worry. I don't ever have to worry about when am I going to announce what date is it, the first date, the second date. Before my dick comes out that I have erectile dysfunction and that there may be difficulties and sometimes it's going to work and sometimes it's not and it's going to be kind of humiliating. We got to make jokes and we'll do other things and we can work our way around it.
No, it's tough. It's tough. This is a tough subject. We could go on for quite a while.
And I am going to say, even though we've said it twice already, here's number three, bravo to seductive poetry for having written this. And thank you so much for allowing us to discuss it. I never talked about my herpes fantasy. Oh, God.
Well, it's in the same, it's in the same kind of rain as my other things. Like if I, because I'm not going to stop being a whore, I'm going to keep having sex, which means there's a chance that I'm going to get type two herpes before I die. So if I did, I would hope that I would embrace it the same way that I've embraced everything else. I'll put it on my fucking cape with it and put it H on the front be kept in fucking herpes and look for every fucking person that is positive for type two and go and be the whore that I am without without putting anyone in danger and not having to deal with as much bullshit.
Captain herpes, really? Captain herpes. I swear to God, I wish we had a listener who knew how to draw it. Not even well, a draw if I can stick figure for all I care.
And I, because I want to see someone draw you in a cape. I will be, Leah will make me a cape. She's fucking makes awesome capes. And I would go and start speaking and, you know, whatever.
And I know that seems insensitive to people that have herpes too, because they're like, you don't know. Obviously, I had an instance. Okay, this is the closest I got to a positive on herpes too. And I don't, and this is what I was going to talk about before.
I had a partner very young, very young. And this was like eight years ago, like literally, she was like 18, 19 years old. Checked her ID. She was legal.
And we had been playing for a little while. And we started having sex. She came back. And I guess it's important.
I should have talked about this before. She came back and said, I just tested positive for type two herpes and you gave it to me. Because I haven't been with anyone in like a year. I had one other guy and he tested negative or whatever.
You gave it to me. Oh. And I was, I believe it was before the show and I was with a biz and we were poly and I don't even think we've gotten in a relationship yet. And I, so I said, this is what's happening.
I was very obviously sad and not just sad that I might now have type two herpes, but also sad that I might have given it to this young person who now their whole life, blah, blah, blah. And let me tell you, Kathy, this person did not hold back in repeat because like through the whole process of testing, which was about a month or six weeks, it was almost daily contact on the phone of this person. Sometimes being, you know, positive and sometimes literally telling me, I fucking hate you. You ruin my life.
And I had to take it. I figured if I gave this person herpes, then I got to let her vent. And so she would be positive, whatever. And if I fucking hate you, I can't believe you did this to me.
I know you tried to talk nice and supportive, but blah, blah, blah, blah. And then sometimes she would be like, I'm just, you know, I don't know how I'm going to deal with my life. And it's this whole process that I've heard other people when they get herpes go through. And I was going through it thinking my life is now has been altered and I'm going to have to reinvent myself.
So finally, the test came back and it was negative. I wasn't the one that gave it to her. I've had like 15, 20, some tests since. And they've all been negative.
And I showed her the test. And I said, I am so sorry that you tested positive, but this is my test. It has my name on it. This is it.
You I'll bring you to the doctor. And I'm sorry. And then it was kind of weird because then after that, she kind of turns, she's like, okay, well, let's fucking whatever. And I'm like, you told me you hated me.
And I ruined your life like two days ago. I'm really not that hot for you right now. And she got super pissed. And that's the last I ever heard.
Boy, so she I have to say that on the one side of this coin is that you're you're feeling bad that you did this to someone and that you're being rejected. But on the other side is the cruel and I'm going to say out of proportion response from this girl because it's wanting to be upset. And clearly, you know, you said she was young. So I get it when you're young, you don't yet know how to deal with the tough things that life throws at you.
But to say this is your fault, you ruined my life. Yeah, I don't. If you if you had had I know, but I I understand that you I had said early I had this caveat because I had said earlier, you have to prepare yourself for the rejection of someone. It's one thing to prepare for the rejection.
It's another to sit there and cower in front of somebody who is berating you. If someone does that to you and blames you for it, that's a bit different. And that's not something I would sit still for. I didn't get the I know I'm talking about you.
I'm talking about the average person who would get this kind of of this isn't about you. You gave me an example and I want to say that in reference to what I said earlier in which you have to learn how to deal with the rejection of someone. It is one thing to deal with the rejection of someone saying, thank you for telling me that. But I don't want to have sex with you.
I don't even want to entertain the thought. It is another to feel that you will have to sit there and listen to somebody berate you. If that happens to you, anybody listening, my suggestion would be no when to draw the line because somebody who gets herpes is just as much as victim as the person you just gave it to. And you had no more saying it than they did.
So there is a limit in my opinion as to how much shit you should take from someone who is pissed off that they just got herpes from you. So that's all I'm saying. There's actually has nothing to do with you. It just reminded me because you gave me that example that I have been in situations in the past where I'm fully willing to take the brunt of the anger of somebody because it's healthy.
But I have realized in life that there is a definite line beyond which I'm not willing to take any shit anymore. You had your say now walk away because you've now crossed over into harm. And that's just the lesson that I learned. I thought it might be.
I think well, and that's what I did after I tolerated the hatred throughout the month or so until the test was. And then after that, you're not going to hate me anymore. And she was still mad. So she left.
So I agree with that that there is a certain amount of time. But I also think that being understanding as much as you can and letting someone blow up steam. I mean, it felt bad, but I knew it wasn't my intention to harm someone if that would have been me doing that. So yeah.
Yeah. That's like, this is a heavy topic. We did quite a bit of time because I think it needs that time to discuss it. Well, I agree.
And here's one thing about the partner that I sort of got. I love her so much. She's so awesome. And it is frustrating to how this is going to pan out over the years of our friendship.
But one of the things that's important to mention that I don't think you even know this particular partner who you've met a few times. She said one of the ways that she was able to cope. She was a perverted podcast fan before I met her. Like she was the closest thing to a fan girl that I've ever had.
Ever. Like when I first met her, she's like, I listened to the show. I love the show. I'm kind of a fan girl.
And she was like really cool. And we hung out a lot. And then we became partners. And she came into the lab lab.
And it was amazing. And when she got herpes, she said, I thought my life was over. And I heard. Fi talk about her herpes.
And normalize it. Which was way, obviously way back in the first 16 episodes, which is why we're totally overdue to talk about a herpes episode. And she said, just hearing her say, I'm okay. I'm still sexual.
My life goes on. You deal with it. You make, you adapt. You reinvent yourself.
And then you just start enjoying your life again under the, under the parameters that you've set for yourself. She said, that is what helped her become strong for herself. Right. And so I don't think you ever heard that.
And when I heard that, I was like, first on right on fee. Feas a rock goddess for that being open about that. But it really does show that the more we talk about it. And the more we normalize it and say, this is just something shitty that happens.
The more we'll get to this point to where nobody's shamed for it anymore. Stuff we need to tell you about how you burn it. Podcast is. Okay, so I got this.
We don't normally do a lot of P.P. reports and it's not that we don't have a lot of news when it comes to pre-preverted podcasts. But I think, you and I just get lazy and we just talk about it. We don't actually put a banner headline in front of it.
By the way, we're about to do a P.P. report. We just start yapping, yapping, yapping, talking about stuff that's going on. This time I decided let's do it the right way.
So, you know that somebody, Glissering Queen posted on our perverted podcast group on FETLife saying that 404, she's getting a 404 whenever she clicks our website pervertedpodcast.com. And she put a little sad face and Enigma, bam, right off, just writes and says, hey, they're linked on a sticky here. The website will be down for a while. While it points to my ineptitude as a podcast host that I have no idea our site is down and I don't even know what's happening to it, which I think is pretty sad.
I have to at least thank Enigma for writing that. But I will, before you give the information, I do want to do a little PSA. That is that we've talked about this not that frequently, but on our perverted podcast group on FETLife. If you click on it right away, you are going to be inundated with the sheer volume of sticky notes that we put up there.
And we do it for a reason because we don't want people to have to wade through once or two stickies in which all the information is under there. So, we have a bunch of them in which if you want to see what FETLife stuff topics we've been discussing, there's one called FETLife stuff, Postlinks. There's one right at the top that says Social Enigma, Segment articles, everything from here's Boogie's stuff, music to here, the vocabulary videos we did in the past. And everything is up there.
It is kind of like a one-stop shop for all things perverted podcast where you can easily find the links and not have to drive yourself freaking crazy trying to figure out where all this stuff is. So, there you go. If you're having problems, go to pervertedpodcastgroup on FETLife.com. Thank you for your public service announcement.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kathy! Oh my God, you're making so hyper-tasticles. I just want everyone to note the time and date because it comes from the Betty Davis joke, and I'm pretty sure it was Betty Davis who we all love because she's fucking balls.
That she's like, why do people call people Pussy's? Pussy's can take a pounding and her fucking great balls are like hypers sensitive and fragile. And I'm like, how'd, and we've never worked it into our vernacular to get away from calling people Pussy's and to start just saying you're being testicle. Stop being so testicles.
I think we need to stop saying that from now on Boogie when you're here. We're acting that way. I'm going to say, stop being so testicle. So you got to say testicles, I think, because that's just one.
Stop being so testicles. Yeah, because it's not proper grammar, which makes it one year. Oh my God. And you're telling me about proper grammar.
And there's two balls in most, except for Dell. Dell has one. Which by the way, I remember how excited he was when like five women in the level. We're like, we want to see.
Oh my God. I want to literally go and get a spork and dig out one of my nuts because what a fucking game. What a game. Hi, I only have one testicle.
Oh my God. I want to see that. Well, what are you going to do for me? I'm a whore.
I'm like, that is brilliant. It's like the money Python where the guy cut off his own foot so he could get more money begging. Oh my God. Fucking brilliant.
Cut off your own testicle. Cut off one testicle. Just going to be like, I only have one testicle. It was brilliant fucking go.
Go Dell. I haven't talked to him in a while. But here's the problem with the website. There is no problem with the website other than it's just the same.
Turd, NATO, death spiral people saying they're going to help and then ghosting, which Kathy and I have experienced at Nausea. I'm at threshold. I've experienced this now for literally 20 years. I built my first giant fucking expensive website in 2001 and I have not stopped having 100% problems with webmasters.
100% and this is no different. So we have no website. We have a website now. I cancel it like why?
Because no one's going to it because somebody once again came in. I want to help you guys. And I let this person in and they made some changes and are already small audience that we have literally cut down to a third of the size because they ghosted me before we finished the other things that were supposed to hopefully make us more seeable in the search engines. So we went from like 500 views a month to like 120 and now it's down to like 50.
So that is fucking amazing to me. Well, I swear to God, I am still bewildered about this. You're right. You and I have experiences with when we were involved with threshold and now with the podcast, the amount of people who will write to us and say, I'm an expert.
I haven't. I not only have the expertise, but I have the time and the desire to help you guys. I'm in it for the long haul. What can I do for your website?
Here's what I want to do. This and that we let them in and it always comes out bad. Always leave. Yeah, always leave.
And then they start building something like in threshold. It was horrible. They would come in. They would talk shit endlessly.
Oh, the last webmaster was a complete fucking piece of shit. And I'm going to redo it all this way. And then they do all this work, their own personal work. And then they're like, Oh, I got another job.
I'm sorry. I don't have time to do this. I got a girlfriend. I'm moving away.
I got a boyfriend. I'm a little bit of whatever of the thousand excuses. Then the next webmaster would come in and go, Oh my God, this person's a fucking idiot. I can do it so much better.
I don't know what it is about pissing contests and egos and redmasters. But fuck, dude, it's rampant. It's rampant. I'm like, I don't, I just want to be on a search engine.
So I killed perverted podcast that we were paying, you know, 150 bucks, 200 bucks a year because no one's going to it because it's not on any search engines. And I just made it a one page. Literally just here's the show. Here's a place to email us.
Here's a mission statement. There you go. Go listen, go, go listen. And that's, that's it.
It costs nothing. It's free with all the domains that I own. So if you go and you get the 404 message, just hit refresh and it'll pop up the new site because the DNS has to reroute. And so what it's doing is it's routing to the old site that's not there.
And so you just need to reroute it to the new page. There's a technical thing, which I should never have had to know about. I'm an entertainer. I'm not supposed to know this stuff.
I'm the talent. I'm the talent. There's someone brilliant in that. This is why we fail because I can only be brilliant in like three things, not 70.
We have a niche audience, Kathy. We do. They love us and they hate us. We got a short little thing from Path Girl, our lovely path.