#31 - Barbara Rourke & Jason St John

Barbara Rourke and Jason St. John are the founders of Bells + Whistles, the award-winning hospitality design firm behind Providence, Lilo, Jeune et Jolie, Campfire, Animae, RYLA, Starlite, Broken Spanish, Dora Ristorante, and numerous other hospitality concepts throughout Southern California.Named among Forbes' Top 100 Architects & Designers in America, Barbara and Jason have spent more than two decades designing restaurants, bars, hotels, wellness spaces, retail concepts, and hospitality experiences that shape how people gather, connect, and create memories.In this conversation, we explore what it means to be creative on demand, the relationship between design and human behavior, designing at the Michelin-star level, empathetic design, leadership, curiosity, and the psychology behind unforgettable guest experiences.Whether you're a designer, entrepreneur, hospitality professional, creative, or simply someone who appreciates great spaces, this conversation offers a rare behind the scenes look into the thinking, process, and philosophy of two of hospitality's most respected creatives.Connect with Bells + Whistles:Website: www.bw.designInstagram: @bellsandwhistlesdesignConnect with Barbara on Instagram: @theelegantcastConnect with Jason on Instagram: @jasonwhistlesFollow Wellness on the Rocks on Instagram: @wellness_ontherocksListen to and watch all episodes of Wellness On The Rocks on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts. Hosted, edited, and independently produced by bartender Taylor McQuade