#31 Presidents of the Babypants of Chris

Every now and again, Jeff breaks away from telling his own stories to tell someone else’s. In this episode, you'll hear from former Presidents of the USA front man Chris Ballew. Interwoven with music from all three phases of his long career, Chris tells of his early rock star days, an encounter with the biggest pop star in the world, and a close call that might have prevented him from getting the best career advice he ever received.