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Dec 17, 2023 58 min

316: Focus on Healing: Why Your Needs Should Come First

from Old Souls and Seekers Hosted by Satori Prime: Guy and Ilan Ferdman

Embark on a profound exploration with Guy and Ilan in Episode 316 of the Old Souls & Seekers podcast. The hosts transparently share their recent journey in the Columbian jungle, engaging in plant medicine work—a challenging yet enlightening experience that continues to unfold. From envisioning a global shift into higher consciousness to navigating the paradox of selfish healing for collective benefit, the episode unravels the complexities of inner wisdom. Delve into the transformative power of intuitive guidance, the importance of community support, and the hosts' commitment to reaching a broader audience through revamped pricing for their coaching programs. In this episode, Guy and Ilan invite listeners to reflect on intuitive nudges, commit to personal healing and growth, and engage in open conversations within the community. Seize the opportunity to explore transformative teachings, trust the journey of inner transformation, and join the collective evolution towards higher consciousness. Tune in to this episode as the hosts navigate the jungle of inner wisdom, offering insights that resonate with the pulse of humanity's rebirthing process.

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Welcome to the Old Souls and Seekers Podcast brought to you by Satori Prime. If you're anything like us, you've been around and around the personal development and mindset block quite a few times. You've read the books, watched the videos, attended the seminars, and even worked with a coach or two, and yet you still find yourself searching for more. You may even feel stuck or that you should be farther along than where you are right now.

And after doing over a decade of mindset work, we've come to this realization. Mindset work is like a small hit of dopamine that distracts you from your true work. You get these little hits of feeling better only to be met with the same underlying conditions and patterns over and over again. Now mindset was an important part of your evolution as well as ours, but it hits a plateau, and now you find yourself ready for that deeper layer of growth and expansion.

If you're listening to this podcast, then you're ready to get off that Ferris wheel. This podcast is only for those that are ready to dive deep and do the real inner healing work. For those that are ready to move past more information into actual experiences. If you're looking for more understanding, then you've come to the wrong place.

This is a home for Old Souls ready to fully embrace and remember who they truly are, ready to make a profound difference in their lives and in the lives of others. So welcome home dear one. We're excited to be part of your journey. Hey everybody.

I always want that song to just keep going. One day we just play it out for people. Oh, let them bask in the magic. I just got off another one call and I'm lit.

Oh my god. I was real preachy on that one. I'm like a good way. I actually want I want the recording of it.

There was a part in there that was like, well, that sounded like biblical prophecy coming out of my mouth. It's funny everyone's in a while. I get myself and like stuff will come out of my mouth. I was like, I never quite said it that way before.

That's on that. Yeah, there's a there's a new energy since the general for sure. I'm out of me with this like real fucking directness and like clarity about like no more fucking around. You're like like how important your interpersonal healing work is and hi everybody by the way.

He went and I just jumping in. But you know, catch up if you dare. Feel free to say hi in the chat box and yeah, you know, we're fresh off the boat from Columbia more or less a week out or so. I'm just starting to feel some ground in my system personally, which is feels good.

It's a tough week man. Oh man, it was a landing. It's still landing. It's been like, I can't say it was rough, but it wasn't like a rough landing.

Like I've had like rough landings from like luminance and stuff like that. But like it wasn't rough. It was just a lot slow. And my body like it was weird even playing tennis last week.

Like it felt like I was not fully in my body. And I could just tell you like even this week playing tennis last week playing tennis. I felt it was weird. It was like the sensation was like floating right outside of my body.

Nothing felt like here. And yeah, this week I definitely feel more more here. Awesome. Yeah.

You. I mean, rough with this a big stronger word than probably I was experiencing. Just challenging coming home, you know, like a not enough downtime. It's like really integrate experience and like writing to kids and Halloween and family and events is like just too much for the system.

Like what I could have used, what I still need is like, you know, three massages a day and like playing in the body again. So it was like, it took a bit, you know, I had a really beautiful session with our, with our teacher on Wednesday and that helped me like settle in, settle down in my system. And like a big question came forward and we had a quite a big experience even on Wednesday as well. Out of all that, but like, you know, for for the experience for me was very challenging down there.

And then like, but like sometimes I don't really consider how big those layers are. I wasn't going through them because I'm so in like the thick of like how challenging the actual experiences. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, like I'm grateful for the teachings always and I feel like it's going to be a bit of a ride to really get clear on what exactly happened in this person, this experience and like how that's going to show up differently.

But like, there's a lot of stuff that would normally make me feel a lot of fear. And I'm just in here and I'm like, I'm not really hitting those spots right now. That feels really cool. Clean as a whistle.

Cleaning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I, uh, this is a part of the jungle. Well, you were there for this, but I, uh, you know, clared me this. Remember? She gave us these sounds.

So I actually like creatively turned it into a, uh, a necklace, which I'm very excited by. I like got like, I got different wire before, but then I got black wire and I was like, oh, it's really cool, black wire. So now I wear a piece of the jungle with me. Obviously we got these two, but it feels good.

Gungly-jungly. Yeah. I feel like it's interesting because this has like weight and it like sits like right, right kind of like the bottom of my heart. I feel like the, like it's like a reminder in a way where it's like, ooh, I feel you.

So it helps me kind of like keep bringing it back. Um, has anyone just had a curiosity from people that are here? Has anyone ever done, uh, plant medicine, anyone ever worked with, uh, your IO or done psilocybin journeys or combo or, you know, any, any of those kinds of things, just always curious to see. It's funny.

Every time I talk to someone, they're like, you know, you spoke about I was like, I just got tingles. Like I want to come with you. Blah blah blah blah. I was like, yeah, we're, uh, we definitely openly share it.

You need to call. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

Cool. So, um, we can take the conversation anywhere as you please. The headline was around money and stuff like that, which I think is always an important conversation. So do you want to, because anything you want to share on it, you said the level one call was kind of powerful.

Is there anything that you want to like bring through for that? I'm in my like full of general, like spiritual general like call to arms mode these days. Um, I don't know why this coming through so strong. Like I just, what I, what the message I just really like, okay, it's like sitting back here and it's like, tell that.

Okay. It's like, it's like, it's like, I'm sure you guys have heard me say this before. It's not totally new and it's untended to be new. It's just like, they're like, Roy is here.

He was just on a call. If he was just on a call, it's like, I was just talking to them about like being wildly selfish about their healing work asking people to be selfish about their healing. inviting them to. I never asked people to do anything.

Nothing is told here or have to do everything as an invitation. Like, because there's a conditioning in our society to not think of ourselves that way. It's like morally, you know, there's an objection to being selfish. But what I want to, what I want to offer is like, as far as I could tell, most truths are a simple and be paradoxical.

Right. So it's like, being selfish about your work is selfless response to what it offers humanity. Like the most selfish thing you could do or the selfless thing you could do is selfishly heal yourself because it heals the collective. And I think most of us don't realize how much power we have and the influence we have energetically.

And so I was talking to them about those things and like really giving them metaphors so that they can see that they've actually experienced this before. It's not new. And you actually have a frame of reference for this, whether it's when you were a child or else, whether this is how things work. And so like, I was just offering, like, yeah, there's, there's like a lot to be afraid of our planet right now.

There's a lot of uncertainty on our planet for a long time. Right. So we like to think of it like tapping now, but like, this crazy shit has been happening for like a few thousand years now, which is a brand scheme of things is not that long. And I want to offer, I also believe that we unconsciously agree to everything that happens on our planet.

This is the school through which we've learned to live, it's a learn so far. And I said, there is a variety of people, like some people can learn through subtlety. You tap them on the shoulder, they get the message. Other people need like, they need to be cloggered before they like get out of their slumber, you know.

And so to the degree of when you're looking at how to be create mass transformation, well, the masses are like kind of asleep at the wheel. And we seem to be at least in this frame of referencing the vibration that we're currently in, be like procrastinating pretty bad, or you know, whatever, I don't know how you measure when we're supposed to stop procrastinating. But like, there's a tendency towards procrastination, there's a tendency towards avoidance. Like, I don't want to have that experience.

Okay. If you don't have that experience, it will be forced upon you through the will of the collective. Because do we have to wake ourselves up at some level? So if you have, you know, for example, you know, money stuff going on, currently, that's what you've unconsciously agreed to help you in your awakening process.

It's not a lack of it's not a loving act. And that's kind of what I said behind as far as online investigations have pointed is that the source of all things is an energy of love. So then tell me what on this planet that's happening right now has not been sourced from that love. And I can't find it.

Now you might have moral apprehension or moral objections to everything that you see and the narrative that's being perpetrated on a planet, again, whether you believe that's happening on purpose or just happening. I don't know, I think that's your, you know, your musings on that front. But that's the point is like, you want to see things get better in this world? I certainly do.

And I was talking to them, I'm like, I know you're doing a mindset program. I'm like, but I want you to understand what's going on behind the scenes. Like, what is the big picture of everything that we do here? This is not just about you, although it really is just about you.

It's like just making it just about you, just being so fucking committed to liberating and freeing yourself is what ultimately frees and liberates the entire consciousness of this entire species of this entire planet. And then the universe is waiting to celebrate us is celebrating us. Right? This is our process.

It's, it's ugly. It's terrifying. It's crazy. And you know, when we were in the jungle, I'll share this because I don't know how to not share things ever, even as crazy as they sound.

But like, one of the experiences I got to have was watching our planet birthing itself into a new consciousness. What felt like a fourth, the fifth dimensional consciousness on the right hand side. So I kind of got this like zoomed out view of the universe of our, sorry, of our planet. It was very dark all around it.

But there was like this beautiful blue, light blue, dark blue kind of light playing over here on this side. And then I could see this like wall of energy that our planet was coming through and just the face of the planet had kind of moved through it. And over here was all this magenta color. Now I even know from, from my own studies, that magenta purple is a very, very high level of consciousness and color.

And it was, and what the planet was telling me, because I was speaking to the planet again, for those of you guys who've done, you understand this makes more sense before those of you got, now this just sounds like guys lost his fucking mind. My mind feels never more found than when I have these experiences to be honest, because what I, what I realize is how multidimensional we are, like how infinite our awareness is and all the different places it can go and how it can get information in so many different ways that we've been taught to believe. And this shouldn't be that foreign because this is our spirituality, religion, philosophy, world-induced, all these things came into our culture. But the planet was saying to me, in this vision, that she is currently in like a late stage pregnancy.

And she's like tired because so much resources to go towards this process. And she said, just think about what it's like for a woman when she's in seventh, eighth, ninth of her pregnancy, like how much she's exhausted and you know, gets so much going to the child. Now there's a certain way that that mother needs to be held so that she feels safe going through the process. And I've been at both live births for both my children.

My wife did both her births without not in the hospital and totally natural homes. I've seen it. I've seen it done as nature intended. And I could tell you how beautiful and crazy it all is, right?

I'm sure for those of you guys who've been even in the hospital setting, you know, it's like, it's terrifying. It's exciting. You want to see what's going to happen next and like, can we see the face and you know, like, but it's all the fear and the worry and all this stuff that comes right along with it. It's like just this wild conglomeration of emotion and and especially in the first one.

So you don't know what to expect. I'm thinking when you all don't know what to expect. But yeah, the first one is like, what are we doing? It's a thing, right?

And so the planet was saying she's like, that's what I need. She's like, I need humanity to show up for this event. Like a man shows up for, or let's say this a primary spouse would show up for someone giving birth, a woman giving birth. Like that's how they end what would best serve is just holding consciousness, holding the field, holding presence with me as I go through that process because I need support.

I need that help. And I was like, that kind of kind of makes sense. And she's like, all the anarchy, all the weather, like all that kind of stuff, that's all part of the course because of how much energy is going to this one celestial cosmic events that's arising and that we're part of, which is this mega transition and energy. And you know, this is true in numerology and astrology.

Like for those of you guys don't know, like we've left the age of Pisces, where we venture the age of Aquarius. I just learned this the age of Pisces was the energy about it was that religion had all the power in the age of Pisces and the age of Aquarius. It's not that religion doesn't exist, but it loses its dominance and power, which is again, all these kinds of things humans become like self-reflective spiritual entities. And again, like personal development industry, spiritual teachings of the past, plant medicines, like all this stuff is like literally seeping into our into the airwaves into the consciousness.

And there's a channel that we follow and he says, there's no inventions, there's just intervention. Right? It's like everything is intervening. So when you look at, for example, like when a certain technology comes online, you know, radio, the airplane, banister break in the four-minute mile, like all these, you know, kind of hallmark moments in humanity, when that happens within usually days or weeks, that same event happens in somewhere else on the planet.

Meaning it was about to happen elsewhere without just happened to be the first recorded one within two weeks of the Wright brothers developing an airplane, they figured out how to do it in France just the same way, you know, a burst banister in the four-minute mile up until then people thought if that ever happened, the body would explode into pieces because you would run too fast. A year later, a 12-year-old Australian boy was doing it. You know, like that's what happens with consciousness. That's what happens with this awareness.

And so it's like, we're all these antennas running around picking up on certain parts of the field that are broadcasting into our consciousness. And then some of us have the courage to say the crazy shit that's being broadcast to us. And those people often change the world, you know, Einstein, you know, go read about how he had those thoughts. These are channeled experiences, you know, the books that permeate the culture on Harry Potter, channeled, hunger games, channeled, you know, just just came to them suddenly out of the blue as a intervention, right, as if an intervention happens.

So it's like, are you having thoughts? Are you just aligning your frequency to be able to hear what has always wanted to come through you and maybe sharing that thing that's coming through you is really important. This is what comes through me, Elon, as these teachings and teachings and teachers and teachers and teachers keep coming to us in order to teach us so that we can teach you and it never stops in our life. Like there's always somebody coming into our lives and like, here we go, this thing, and this practice and you want to do this and we're like, sure, you know, and I've met other people like this.

And that's what these nodes in the circuit are doing. I just wanted to say that the thing that I think I don't think that we are gifted in any particular way, I don't think that we are special in any particular way. I think I and I early on in our lives kind of raised our hands and we're like, this is what we want to do. We didn't know how we didn't know what it was going to look like, but I distinctly remember even a weekend course for the first time in my life and at the end they're like, you know, create this grand possibility for your life.

And I was like, I want to do what these people are doing. Like, I want to lead rooms and I want to change people's lives. At the time, I was in commercial real estate and doing very well financially, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't really need another career or anything like that and something like my heart and all these past experiences, I kept seeing, I was like, oh my God, this is what I'm meant to be doing.

And again, I didn't know how what like none of it was literally like the first my first month in personal development. Actually, no, this was my first weekend in personal development. The thing that I think sets us apart is this and it's very simple. Like what I'm going to say is very simple and I have witnessed how difficult it is for people to act upon.

So we are all receiving these messages constantly. Now, some of us are hearing for them is blocked off. Others are just, you know, you don't really hear it so much anymore like you used to, but you don't. And the thing that I think keeps it alive and actually enhances it is what you do with that information.

If something comes through and you don't act upon it, and by that, I mean like you don't share it with the person that it was guided for you to share with, you don't take action in that way, then guess what? There's this like pipeline that wants to come through you at all times. It wants to come through all of us where energy can flow is where it goes. So if you are not acting upon the information, if you think that it sounds crazy and you don't take action or you dismiss it as nonsense or some crazy idea that you may have had, then every time you do that, you're like literally diminishing the connection that you have to this source.

Gai Nai, I mean it took us many, many, many, many years to get to where we are today. We're at a place right now that when spirit, God, universe, whatever communicates with us and we've created an ability to sit in that silence and receive that information. Like that's one of the greatest things that we've cultivated and give our clients the ability to cultivate. Like I'm not interested in you getting my wisdom or guys wisdom, like it's fucking irrelevant.

I don't give a shit. I'm not that smart, but there is wisdom that is meant specifically for you. There is guidance and intuition that is meant specifically for you. And if I, we, Satori Prime, this community, the coaches, et cetera, can show you practices that help you tap in to this energy, to this source so that it can guide and provide for you and your children and your spouse and whatever else in your life that I will do till my dying breath.

Because the more people we plug into this infinite source, that's how I believe we're going to transform this planet. Because when we can step out of our own individual bullshit nonsense and tap into that, the stuff that comes through is at times, I'm going to tell you crazy. It doesn't make any sense. Like if you map it out and look at it logically and all that stuff, it doesn't make sense.

What I found is that if you listen and you act upon, more messages come. They become clearer, cleaner, quicker, and as long as you are like on the player, you just keep sending on the player, you just keep sending and you move with that. It will lay the breadcrumbs for the greatest life that you will ever live. And that's not to say that what it's going to guide you to is not going to scare the crap out of you, everyone.

So not because what your soul desires could be vastly different than what your human and the mind, the ordinary mind desires. Your ordinary mind is programmed for one thing. It wants like the illusion of safety, it wants comfort. That's it.

It wants you to be alive. That's it. But when it comes to purpose, fulfillment, love, peace, while being, it doesn't even have those programs. So just get that for a second.

It doesn't have those programs. But where do you keep going for answers? Where do you, what should I do next? What's next for me?

Should I do this? Should I not do this? Should I go into this relationship? Should I not?

Should I get this job? Should I not? Where do you go for those answers? If you're like 99% of humans, you go right up here and you create your pros and cons list.

And again, I'm going to repeat, this has no interest and no computing skills for love, for fulfillment, for purpose, for peace, for wellbeing, for support, for connection, none, zero, literally, no pathways. And you keep going to ask this. And then you wonder why your life looks the way it does. Now, I'm not saying the heart won't lead you to things that are challenging or even scary at times.

The level of fulfillment and purpose and peace and love and connection, those are the languages of this thing. Like that's all this once. It doesn't care about the trials and challenges that you are going to meet along the way because it knows that every step in that direction chips away the things that are not actually you, lets them go and allows you, the real you to exist here on this planet at this time. We're all going to go back there and shine like beautiful lights.

Trust me, like we're going back there. In this moment, can you bring more of that light through? And this is actually inhibiting your ability to do that. That's why I say to people like if you're only doing the growing upward as amazing as that mindset stuff is, it's like doing half of the work.

It's like you eat the right foods, but you don't exercise or vice versa, right? Like people work out, but don't eat the right foods like both and not this or and this and that. You do this and that and your life will never be the same. Hmm.

Any questions? Can I just say something to Ash specifically? Ash, I saw your post and she said I'm realizing I'm going through a sort of depression for the first time in my life and it's related directly to my grandmother's passing in April and I knew it would be hard, but I'm crying daily and have been procrastinating everything. So Ash, I just want to offer you that the ability that you have to allow for the crying, to allow for the grief, to allow for the slowing down, see if you can find the gift in that.

And I say that because people that do not give themselves this space and time to grieve, loss is real, like loss of loved ones. And I say this all the time, it's like the more painful the loss of someone, the greater that the love and connection of that relationship actually wasn't your life because there's plenty of people that come and go in our lives. Right? Like it doesn't even like you're like, right?

The depth that we can feel the pain, the hurt, the grief, the despair, the longing, to me is equal in the world of love and connection that we had with that person. So I just want to honor that your system is allowing for and giving you the ability to release and process all this stuff because most people do is they suck it down, they bury it deep, deep inside. And yeah, she raised me up from my mom and dad when I was 10. So like, yeah, so it's not just a grandma, it's like a mom figure.

Yeah. And so yeah, it's I'm not saying it's supposed to do anything, but like it would be weird if it didn't hurt, if you didn't cry to me like healthy way of being with all of this is allowing yourself and your system to go through all the cycle of the emotion. And there could be sadness, there could be rage, there could be upset, there could be, you know, complete and utter like a melted into a couch or a bed and I can't move like all of that I want to name is absolutely the process. And so if you could just even find gratitude for the ability that you have created that is allowing for all of this stuff to come up because left inside, that's the stuff that creates dis ease in our body.

That's the stuff that five years 10 years down the road, you go to a doctor and they give you a very not nice piece of news piece of news. Yeah. Right. So I just I really want to honor and hold your tender heart as you go through this and I'm sure there's other people here also going through this as well.

Yeah. So just want to name that as well. Yeah. I was saying this is, I'm just I think I saw this.

This is very interesting is I'm I'm on exactly this cycle. I going around and throwing off the chainade of ideas and doing things defined and live my purpose. Yeah. And Ash was saying people keep telling me this is lasting too long.

Thank you for valetion experiencing. I mean, what's the right time to grieve? Yeah. You know, what's the right time when there's, you know, people who lose children, it's like what's the right time to grieve the loss of a child when you're supposed to get out of them 30 days, like you fucking kidding me, you know, you'll grieve about the rest of your life.

And then as far as like purpose is concerned, I get a little upset about programs that tell you that they're going to help you find their purpose, right? Because that is to say as if there is a single purpose and perhaps there is, you know, like you let you live lives, I feel very on purpose. I feel in my teenage years, I remember thinking perhaps angry suicidal and what I thought to myself that whole time was a person without purpose and person without place. I have nowhere to put my energy and I felt like this ocean of potential that was going absolutely nowhere.

And then I think like, you know, finding purpose is like finding a lover or like a person you're going to marry. It's a spontaneous event. And when you know it, when you find it, sometimes it hits you over the head and you're like, this is it and sometimes it takes some time. Like I started doing developmental work when I was 19 years old and 40 years old now, right?

21 years old. And at the time when I found it, I was in love with it immediately, but had no idea that it had any place in my life or what I was going to do with my life. And I did work developmental work for years and volunteered my time for coaching for 12 years basically without once thinking, oh, this is my purpose. So this is what I'm going to do with my life.

That came much later on as you and I kind of started progressing in business and realizing that there was some utility to what we were learning because up until then it was like, how do we help ourselves? How do we help other people? And that just kind of parlays here a little bit what I want to share with you guys what we want to share with you guys, I'm going to put it on the screen and then give some context. We've never done what we're doing right now before.

This is not a this is not a marketing trick. It's not a sales tactic. Although it makes sales and it's good marketing. We're we're offering our level one coaching program for the first time for what we think is an ungodly low amount of money.

Okay, just so you guys have some context for this up until a week ago, this program was being sold anywhere for between 24 and 97 and $2,997. We're offering the same program. There are a few caveats here. People who signed up at the high rate we're getting lifetime access to group coaching and we're also getting $1,500 credit towards more advanced programs that we offer.

That's not offered here. There is a limited window for the coaching of six months and we don't offer any credits towards future programs if you do join them. But what we're getting clear on is that we're sharing a really important message. You know, anybody who's been around this work, feel free to chat in the cap boxes.

Like, here's the reality. 99% of people, I never want to say 100% of people who do this work have mega shifts in their lives. That's just what's up. Lifeltering things happen with the technology that you and I are offering here.

It took us 20 years to figure out most of the stuff that we share with you guys and a small fortune. Not that small. Not that small. Not that small fortune.

To discover a lot of things that ultimately, when we look back at what actually worked and what's made headway, I mean, everything has an impact at some level. But there's a lot of exercises and things that I've done throughout the year. There's no real impact in my life. It was a cool thing I tried.

But there are fundamentally certain principles that we've learned over the years that without a doubt, when applied, like transforms. That's what we teacher. We used to have a thank you, though, we was even the name of our podcast, we called personal development without the fluff. And the reason we said that is because we took away all the stuff that sounds really, really good when you talk about it on video, but it makes no difference for anybody when they try it.

We removed the fluff. We're like, this is what works to develop yourself. So we're offering this program at $497. That's a sixth of the price that we were just charging a week ago.

Okay, it is a Black Friday special. And I'm telling you again, this is true. We don't know how long this is going to stay around. This may be in perpetuity.

This may be another week. We don't know, because the truth is, I'm going to be super sure with you guys, we don't know that we can run our company on the amount of money that we're asking for this program. We don't know if we can actually keep this company alive. So we're going to see what this generates, because we still operate a business and it still needs money to pay our employees for you and I to breathe shelter and food, right?

And for us to go to market this company so that we can grow what we're doing here on a regular basis, which is no small expense. So we're going to give this a try and see what happens here, but our intention has always been to get this work in the hands of as many people as possible. And what we're seeing is that we are in some pretty uncertain times where people feel pretty uncertain about their wealth, some other futures, stuff like that. And so we're going to give this a shot for a period of time and see what happens when we offer it at this price point and we let a bunch of open doors start communicating away.

We never have. And we're going to see what happens when potentially 1,000 or 5,000 people come into this community. And again, I don't know that that's going to be the price point where we're going to try and we're going to feel into it and see what happens. But that was the message that we were given.

So we're following the flow in the same way you want to say it scares us and excites us and does all the things simultaneously. And for us, it's like, as a buy-in to our community and the type of support and technology and work that we offer here is, this is the opportunity of lifetime, I'm telling you right now. Opportunity of lifetime. So if you've been a yes-toque program but they felt every financially, hopefully this eliminates that barrier and go-go-go and we've had a lot of people take this offer already.

So we're telling you go for it. Like for no other reason, again, it's a self-less, self-less, self-less, self-less, heal yourself. And like we're all heading towards a new year, renew all that kind of stuff. Like it's the right time.

You know, someone is asking, are we planning to do something similar with L2? Maybe? No, we are. We are.

We, so let me just speak to it more than I can. Yeah. So look, again, we're talking about like being guided right. Daini went to the jungle and both of us separately.

So like, you know, we're each having our own experience and both of us separately, we're told by spirit that it's time to lower our prices, which doesn't make sense, right? Like you're a business, you build a credibility, usually prices go up and she was very clear. She's like, the message she sent me was like, lower your pricing to 2020 prices. So three years ago pricing.

And so I tell guy this idea and I was like, listen, I don't know why she said this thing. Like again, right? My mind, my ordinary mind's going, this is crazy. This is going to bankrupt us.

This is going to like destroy the company and like why were we going backwards? And she was very clear. She was like, lower 2020, give. She was like, give them, give, give, give, give.

And I was like, okay, so I shared this with guy. And he's like, it's really funny that you say that because I also received a very similar message from her. So we sat and we're like, okay, what does this get to look like? So for level two and level three, in addition to the outrageous offer for level one, we're lowering our prices to 2020 prices.

So, you know, it's anywhere between like, I did the numbers, it's anywhere between 30 to 40% less than what it has been currently, okay, which is huge. We're talking about multi thousand dollar programs. So, if you've been on the sidelines, if you and I have spoken, if you have been looking at level two and level three, our next level two program is scheduled to start like either right before Thanksgiving or right after Thanksgiving, we're going to kind of see after the live event this weekend. But you know, let's call it sometime in the next 30 days, that next level two program is starting.

So, if you want to give yourself the gift, like keep some giving heading into the end of this year and beginning of next, then reach out to me, reach out to Corey, reach out to Tobias, reach out to whoever you spoke to. And yeah, and we'll be in touch and I can give you like the new pricing and what that would look like. Remember, like level two, we only run probably like once a quarter thereabouts. So, if you don't get into November, probably the next one won't be until February, let's say, right?

So, yeah, we're definitely doing that as well. Yeah, so we're shifting and we're going to, like I said, we're going to see our intention, you know, typically we've supported like a few hundred people a year. Our intention going to next year is that thousands of people will be doing this work. Like we have a pretty lofty goal of having at least 10,000 people registered for this work and enrolled in this community within the next 12 months.

So, that's why we're kind of lowering the threshold for entry right now. And again, we're going to see what that looks like when we create a swell of energy and we have a lot of people simultaneously doing this work creating support for one another. And so, like, you know, for those of you guys who've been around the community for a while, like hopefully that excites you because like you guys are kind of the pillars of this community and you've helped us establish this feeling that like we really can support a lot more people with this work and the work is really as profound as we intended to be. And you know, that's the cool part about having digital programs as we can distribute widely without you and I having to give up every part of our lives to do that.

So, it's really cool. We're pretty excited about what's happening right now. And you know, if you want to share this with anyone in your life, you've done this work before, like, you know, now is the time. It's also good to know if you buy a role in the promotion that's available, this $4.97, it also comes with a ticket to our intuitive mind event and a companion ticket for a person that you want to bring with you, which just you guys understand, we've sold intuitive mind now for years at $444, just for a two day intensive.

That comes with this $497 included. This comes with six months of support of coaching. Again, if you don't know this, we don't offer just four calls a month now for live coaching, we offer six. Okay, so it's $4.97.

I don't know what the math is. I think he'll end up some point because he likes to do these things. You get 36 live group coaching calls for $497. Yeah, it's less than $14 for a group coaching call, which is insane.

It's absurd. Yeah, it's insane. So again, we'll see. We're going to see if that feels good.

And if it is, that'll be part of the course and continue. If it really doesn't work for us and to keep this machine moving, then we will have to change that soon. So you know, you guys, well, your feedback is really important to us at this point in time. Part of that feedback is just seeing that people are taking it in order to see that.

And great, we'll figure out the rest of the stuff and how to make our finances work. And the other day, we want to grow the community, grow the mission, put this stuff in as many people's hands as physically possible. So hopefully, that's exciting for you. And we look forward to seeing a bunch of you guys on the level one work.

And yeah, level two or three. By the way, someone asked me earlier today, level one, level two, level three. And we call it the awareness effect academy, right? And that's because on our journey with awareness, we've kind of seen that there's like three, there is a fourth, but we leave that off later.

Like there's three major transitional phases through the process that one must be proficient at before moving to the next, right? And it's just it's something that's been taking us, you know, like we've been on this path for eight years. And we've mapped this out. And so what we take is instead of you having to spend eight years and however much money you got on this path of, you know, 400,000, 500,000 dollars, we can really abbreviate that for people.

And so step one is the ability for awareness to be present to its stuckness in ordinary mind, right? So like, well, most people meet us. It's firmly stuck here. And that's why personal development and mindset work really, really works because your awareness is literally stuck in this part.

And so it is consuming information from here. And by the way, guess who's really psyched about that? Your mind. Because if the mind can keep your awareness locked in here, it is happy as a pig and shit.

Because it knows like, as long as it can hold you here, it controls and dictates your life. Because if awareness is here, then your five senses are the ones that give you the precepts of reality, paint your reality a certain way. And so yes, could you like move and shift certain things? Yes.

And it's still through this very restricted paradigm. Okay. So in level one, the practice is to help you shift awareness from ordinary mind out. Now in the beginning, what happens is this, you go out, you taste that for a few seconds and like flicks back, then it takes you a while to go, Oh, wait, awareness is back here.

And it takes you a while to like shift out. At the end of level one, you will be able to like, snap your fingers and have awareness. Yeah. And then when it comes back here, you'll notice it really fast and you'll be out, right?

So that's level one of awareness. Now, once you become proficient at that dance, now we're like, okay, you've gotten this. Now let's move awareness from spaciousness and into body. And this is where your actual work begins.

So Michael Singer calls it the seat of awareness and people spend decades finding the seat of awareness. And he's like, congratulations, now your work can begin. He's like finding the seat of awareness is like finding the directions to your office. Once you find it, now the work begins.

It's not like, Oh, I found it. It's over. No, no, no. So again, at level two, what's going to toggle is it's going to go awareness here, awareness out, awareness here, awareness out, awareness here, right?

You're going to toggle that eventually. So we spent three and a half months working with you so that you can have awareness stay in body. Now, this part is all about you. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, for three and a half months.

You are going to understand me at a level that you've never understood me before and why. Hey, for the healing and all that, but B, when you continue on to the next level of awareness, it's once you know the signature of me, once you know the resonance and signature of that, now awareness can actually feel and track others. So you can actually like awareness can stay here and out here. So you can now begin to feel and track others.

And this is really what I tell people. It's like, this is now becoming more the practitioner side of things. So level two is more like the me I practice for me. Level three, it's like, I really want to enhance this aspect, right?

Because once you find me, like awareness just gets very curious. And so then we spend nine months doing that work where it's like, can you be here and here, here and hold spaciousness. And now we're creating the simultaneous awareness. And that is the third level of awareness.

So when you're working through the awareness effect academy, like, at where every every level that you are working at and becoming masterful at, I want you to get is like building the wrong, if you will, to get to that next level. And that's why we've designed it this way. So like at level two and level three, you work with a one on one coach. Right.

And the reason that is, is because like, you need that new template to provide you that newness, because when awareness is in the body, it doesn't like it. At the beginning, it's like it hits certain things and it feels uncomfortable. And so when we can borrow, and this is like cutting edge, science is tracking this right now, when you sit with a practitioner who's cultivated, these and stabilize these frequencies, right? Like the frequency of safety and support and stability and wellbeing, it actually allows you to borrow that when you sit with them.

And that allows you to go in and touch those aspects that have been closed off from you, right? Because the mind has been seeing them and trying to understand how to move them or shift them or change them. And as you've seen, that doesn't work at all. So when you can bring safety into your system, that's what actually allows for the energy to move.

Because right now, the mind thinks that if it moves, you die. I really want to emphasize that. Like it actually thinks that if this thing gets unlocked, you're going to die. Now, you tell me, is the mind going to let you have access to move that thing?

If that's really what it feels. So that's the practice, right? It's like understanding me, having the ability to witness me from in here and then shifting out there. So I hope that makes sense.

Because I've had many people just recently asked me, you know, like, what's the distinction between this and this? So hopefully that gives you guys some clarity. Yeah, that's great. So I think we'll start wrapping up there.

But obviously, I wanted to make you guys aware of that. For those of you guys who are ready to take that next step and jump into some really awesome training. And I'll just leave it with this. It's like, and I said this to the L1s.

Like, I wish it was different to some degree, but like, we've just never seen people sustainably transform or heal their life without support. Yeah, it doesn't happen. Like, we don't know. I've tried, you know, reading books, watching the videos like, so I said, you can go do that.

It's going to make you very intelligent. You know, pick up a lot of cues and you'll sound really good five years from now. But like, you will have made very little progress in your personal transformation or healing. Like, that's just the reality.

You can test that theory if you like. I guess we'll see you in a few years. So you can take my word for it or not. But like, there's something kind of inherently beautiful about finding out that we need each other for this healing process or this transformational process to take hold on our planet.

Like, we all got to do it together as a family. Like, that's the reality. You know, like, we we're not separate entities. Like, the three things that a human being has to have, I think they're these other three food, then you shelter and then you connection.

And we learn through connection. And so we transform through connection. We are social creatures. There's a reason the worst thing you can do to human being is isolate them from connection.

That makes us crazy, makes us sociopathic, makes us lots of different crazy, you know, different distinctions that we get in psychiatry. And so like, understanding that is a huge aspect of why we do what we do. You know, we have invested a lot over the last five years in creating systems for community to step into where people can support each other through these processes. You are going to have low points.

You're going to have challenges that you don't know what to do with. You're going to feel things in your body when you're going to be allowing them that are foreign and that you want to avoid. And the way that we repair that and work with that is by sitting with other people and getting support when you're out of what I'm out of alignment, speak for me. When I'm out of alignment, when I'm under resource, I cannot do it on my own.

And in learning to receive support from other people is also how we learn to receive support from the resource that's all around this from God or spirit or universe or call it whatever you want to call it. If you want that stuff to work with you, it is predicated on opening your belief in channels around support. Nature is oriented around support. Okay, it's oriented around us working with each other through cooperation.

And so like a peaceful planet is a cooperative planet. It's a planet where we recognize the value of the individual, the influence that the individual has, and how that inserts itself and changes the collective. So that's why we do what we do here. You guys can certainly enjoy MMI.

It's a great program, like let's change your program. It really is. But what we know about that program also and it's why we price it as low as we do for those of you guys who are just in at work is because we also understand that we need to show you what we got and prove the value of this work to you so that you can go look at other stuff because it's very hard to just say to somebody, hey, we can help you transform your life in a few days or a few weeks and have them actually believe that that's true because that's not what we've seen in our as-loved reality. So we're saying something that to most people, they don't have any frame of reference for it.

But here are my words. You can do our digital programs. You're going to make headway without a doubt. You're going to transform something.

You're going to have insights that are going to allow you to transform your life. You're going to have tools where you think about things, what you perceive things that are going to transform your life. However, you're going to be moving a snail's pace. And for some of you, that's okay.

That's my pace. That's totally fine. Yeah, and that's totally fine. This is not about convincing you.

It's about feeling into what's important for you with where you are right now and what your desires are without support. I don't know where I would be in my life. So for you, you know, for you know what I mean, it's insane not to have a teacher, a coach, a mentor, somatic killer. I'm going to go to one today at 4pm.

We do weekly sits with people like there's so many things that we do to align and support our system on a regular basis because we do. We have a world that creates a lot of fear and instability in our system and dysregulation for our nervous system. And so the more you can train the system towards regulation, the easier everything in life gets, the easier relationships got, the easier stuff around money gets, the easier stuff around business gets around health. It's just like a regulated system that's open and available for all these things, not just physical and emotional things, but spiritual things as well.

So just wanted to insert that in there for you guys as to why the structures are built the way that they are. They were very mindfully built this way with supporting community in mind. Okay, and the further up the ladder you go, the more support we can offer you. But again, be mindful that at the price points that we're now offering this program app, what we can offer is library coaching, you know, it'd be insane to offer one on one coaching, at that kind of price.

So just bear that in mind, all right? All right, guys, well, we love you very much. Thank you for being here today. Look forward to inviting a bunch of you guys into the L1 program.

Again, please feel free to share that with the people in your life. If you've wanted them to do this work alongside you and parallel with you, if you want them to have a taste of their own, again, the level one does come with intuitive mind that's coming up here in just a few days. I'm November 11th and 12th. So they can dive in and have a deep dive experience with us and right away.

If that's what you choose, otherwise, maybe this is the best holiday gift of all time, right? Like you said, there's very few things that I've ever invested in in my life that continue to add value increasingly. So over time, that's what spiritual healing development work does. It's a growing thing that only gives back more the longer you do it and the more you're in it, right?

Like if I buy a pair of jeans for $500 or anything else for $500, it's going to depreciate and value in price over time. So I think that appreciates in value, surely, unless you bought crypto when it was there. Yeah. So we love you all.

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