32: Telling the Story With Heart — A Conversation with Dr. Nicole Clark

Send us Fan MailEpisode 32: Telling the Story With Heart — A Conversation with Dr. Nicole Clark In this episode, Jamal and David sit down with Dr. Nicole Clark, Emmy award-winning anchor and reporter for Spectrum News Texas — but before the newsroom, before the camera, there was nearly two decades in psychology.Nicole opens up about how her background as a Ph.D.-level psychotherapist shapes the way she tells stories today — especially the hard ones. From covering families in crisis to interviewing individuals turning pain into purpose, she shares how empathy, emotional intelligence, and credibility intersect in journalism.We talk about the stories that stay with you long after the mic is off. How to report on trauma without becoming detached. And what it means to use media not just to inform — but to humanize. Nicole reflects on why she does this work, what continues to inspire her, and how storytelling can create light even in the darkest moments.This conversation is about purpose, resilience, and the responsibility that comes with holding someone else’s story.Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death is a podcast that explores the raw, unfiltered reality of surviving profound personal loss—and finding a way forward.  The idea for the podcast was born after David and Jamal met in 2023. Both widowers, who had lost their wives to cancer, quickly found a deep connection through multiple conversations about pain, perseverance, and parenthood. They realized that while men often bond over music, sports, or TV, they rarely speak candidly about loss or emotional recovery. Getting Back Up was created to change that narrative—blending the everyday with the existential in a format that’s as relatable as it is real. Thank you for your support!Hosts: David McClain & Jamal JonesGuest:  Jocelyn Barrera, Executive Director of The Christi CenterExecutive Directors: Marlon Jackson & Ted Winners (Like A Gazelle Productions)Editing: Marlon JacksonMusic: Grenada, "Treasure" McDonald, Otis, "Phife for Life", otismusic.comThank you for listening! Follow us on Instagram/TikTok @getbackuppodcast and on X @GBUpodcast