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How are you doing today? Hi, Boogie. I'm good. How are you?
Well, today was an adventure because I got to go to the dentist today after a very long week of Sunday or Monday or whatever day it was, a few days back. I just literally out of nowhere, my tooth just said, you're going to be infected now. And it went literally from zero to death in like an hour. And so I like start digging through stuff and I've had, you know, just homeless guy.
Teeth ripped so many teeth ripped out of my head. My mom just laughs every time she looks inside my mouth at the grand canyon. That is the devastation that is, you know, Boogie's mouth. Probably not as entertaining as your party that you went to, that you gave me no fucking report.
I texted you the next day and I said report and you didn't report. And then I called you later and then you're like, oh man, this phone call thing, I can't call you back, but you never got back to me. Oh, is that what you meant? I'm all report.
This is either one of Boogie's weird butt-diling things or he meant to say something and said something totally different. I had no idea what that word, what you wanted from me. Yeah, a report. That's, I thought it was pretty specific.
No, I report by talking on the podcast and telling you, but I really had no clue. And then the next day you called and I was super busy and I couldn't, you know, pick up. Well, Kathy. Wow.
So how'd the party go? Well, Mr. Butter, it was really good and you're right. I would take my Michelle Sweet-Saitis party over a dentist visit any day, even though she is the sweet-saitis.
It was really nice. It was at WeHo 910. It's called, it's a new play space. So they also hold munchs there.
It was very nice, strange. Not gonna lie, this was my first real play party. I had been to the same space to a play party, but that wasn't really a play party. It's more like a fun space.
And to see people, you know, naked or half-naked being tied up was, I thought, wow, I'm back. It's so weird. What are these things I see? You're like the little fucking mermaid getting out of the water for the first time.
You're like, what are these? These things called feet and a dildo, a b'n'est. It is a very strange place because it's one largest room and maybe two tiny little side rooms off. So it's difficult to have people conversing and socializing in the same room that people are playing.
And so I don't think they've figured out quite where to put seating and everything. But it's bravo to them. It was a good first-up play party time. And of course, Mindy Shell is awesome.
She was fucking just nine-inch heels and just rocking this total leather outfit. Wow. And the social butterfly she is walking from person to person. Thank you for being here.
I love Mindy Shell. She's just the sweetest, sweetest person. Well, very good. So what types of things did you see?
Did you touch any balls? I did not. Although I knew some people there, you know me boogie. I'm not huge into pick up play.
And there's absolutely being not huge into pick up play. I'm, of course, not going to play right away after a pandemic. And this is the first one. Frankly, half a night went by without anything happening.
And my friend and I who were there together said, how much do you want to bet that we're going to walk out of here and not see anyone play? And then sure enough, someone started getting tied up and someone else was crawling around on their hands and knees. I'm all, nah, that's more like it. That's what I came to see is men on their hands and knees being tied up.
Yeah, I really, I miss the whole femdom. Energy, it was very nice being in that play space. That is a good report. I'm very happy once again that you got it out of here, like kicking my ass.
I'm like, shit. I didn't do anything. I just went and I at first I was cursing the formal wear requirement, right? Because I'm like, I don't want to get dressed up, put on makeup and look old girly.
But I did it anyway, even though my feet were killing me in my heels. When I got there, it was just really nice to see men in suits, men looking very nice. And a couple of young guys came in in jeans, sneakers, Jean Vest, one of them was wearing a mama. Oh, yeah, yeah.
I turned to Michelle and I said, would you look at that? She's all, oh, no, no, no. She's either be naked, you either strip off these fucking clothes or you get the fuck out. It was really funny though.
It was, it was good. It was nice. And I enjoyed the atmosphere. A lot of well-dressed people, very, very friendly, very happy to be out.
It was generally a very positive party would have loved to play with somebody. But unfortunately, the only people I really knew there were the women. And I thought, well, this is good. This is another one of those things where I'm pushing myself to get out there.
Even though I get very anxious being out there because, you know, I'm dealing with my own personal stuff right now. And that gets in the way. But part of my goal is to keep pushing myself to do things that make me uncomfortable. Well, that's fantastic.
And then of course, next weekend, not this weekend, but next weekend, you and I are going to be perusing the party at DomCon. So that's going to be pretty cool. I don't know how that's going to work out. It'll be a little weird.
But I think we're going to have a good time with that. And then the following day will be on the convention floor. So that'll be pretty cool. Yeah.
I haven't been to DomCon in years, just years. It'd be interesting to see how it's changed. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. For those of you that are local, DomCon.com, d-o-m-c-o-n.com for registration.
They still have some of the other red carpet things and parties and whatever available. But some of the stuff is sold out. So just go check the website if you're going to be local and you want to go register. But I know you can still get in.
It is a vaccine only event. And we are looking forward to heading into that. I did. I dug through my entire storage and I found our little microphone that we record our half of PP episodes on.
I found it. So yes, you and I will be able to do little commentaries as we go around and see how that goes. But I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I am looking forward to getting out and I'm starting to see other parties pop up that I might be interested in that I'll talk to you about if you want to go check those out.
But it's good. Oh, yeah. Getting out. We're doing it, Boogie.
We're doing it. We are literally a step away from our junk being juggled. Your junk is being juggled. Juggled?
No. Your lips can be juggled too. My lips. My labia lips?
Yeah. It'll sound like, you can hear me. I can hear you. I can hear you.
Exactly. Well, my labia lips are not quite that organized. They're all over the place. So they wouldn't sound quite that nice.
Is a zebra labia all covered with stripes? Seeker, godly wisdom on some fucking advice. All right. We're going to get we're going to just spend some fucking advice Boogie right here.
The spends like the discharge. No, like medicine. We're going to dispense. Oh, good.
Not like a yeasty discharge because that's usually what it ends up sounding like. Yeah, we're going to spend some good old fashioned advice here. We got a letter from Captain Awesome, our friend at the Gotham Press Podcast. Covers who wanted to know about protocol.
He says, some of the members from our local community, myself included, are wanting to set up a high protocol dinner. As our community isn't terribly large, though, we don't have many local resources to pull from as far as experience is concerned. We'd love the knowledge of you and your amazing fan base. Help us perverted podcast.
What? Captain Awesome is awesome. There I say it. Captain Awesome is awesome.
And I actually did respond to this and then talk to him a little bit more in detail about what they're looking for and stuff like that. But in general, I definitely think this is something that we can give some ideas. There's a million ideas that can go into a high protocol evening. And really, the first bit of advice is you get to set this up.
This is your creativity. There's no book. There's no one way to do a protocol event. You get to decide what those protocols are.
Is it going to be sexual? Are you going to have the submissive serve all of the dominance or just your specific dominance? Are people going to kneel? Is there going to be a coloring ceremony in the beginning?
I mean, literally, once you establish what those protocols are, the rest is kind of just like is pretty easy. But I'll let you go. But I have a billion ideas. Yes, I'm glad that you said because yours are more about the ideas to do.
And the things I have to say are just more general oriented. So the first thing I would say is that you're never going to please everybody. There's always going to be some rules that you set down that some people might not like. I like how high protocol I do.
Unfortunately, sometimes I'll go to events. Well, like my Michelle's sweet status party, I didn't like the fact that dressing nice is one thing formal where is another. Right. And so I didn't like it.
But the bottom line is that's her fucking party. She can decide whatever the fuck she wants it to be. And if you agreed to go to the party, then you're doing it with your eyes wide open. I've seen too many people at parties or dinners or any kind of event that's high protocol complain and left and right because they didn't like that they had to do this and that.
The people who are going need to be aware of what the rules are is my second thing because they have to consent to it. So if you are bottom or submissive who's going to a high protocol party, you need to know ahead of the time that you're going to be expected to wear nothing or you're going to be expected to serve people. So the rules, I believe, have to be laid out and spelled out specifically so that people who are attending know what they're getting into here here. Because it is like a giant play party where everybody is a member and if you don't spell it out ahead of time, you're just going to have a bunch of unhappy people and that's never what you want at a party or any event.
In this case, what is it? They're doing a dinner. Right. Absolutely.
Yes. They're doing a dinner. And I love that you put it in that and I would even add to it that it's almost like a community play scene when you're doing an event like this because everyone is playing by a certain set of rules. And then of course, there's the individual service that that occurs.
But your basic outline of quote unquote, high protocol evening would be usually the submissives are in service to the dominance. And Headley and I talked about this when we talked about the T service, which is another type of protocol event where the submissives are preparing the menu. They're being of service to the dominance, whether the dominance are basically being celebrated just to sit there and relax and talk amongst themselves. And like Headley pointed out, like in some, the submissives don't really talk too much unless they're spoken to.
And it's a, the idea behind it is to give service to the dominance and allow them to kind of relax and be taken care of. Or it can be more ritual based where like in the beginning, there's a coloring ceremony where all the submissives, I know Master's used to do this at a lot of his functions and classes where all the submissives go up and you rang a bell. And then they had a commitment, a small commitment ceremony. And then the dominance would call her their submissives.
And then whatever those rules are after that are you in service to every dominant that is there. And then once again, what are the rules behind that? Are the dominance allowed to touch you? Are they, you know, is there going to be some sort of kink involved?
Is there some sort of sexuality? All of those things, like you said, need to be established by the leaders of that event upfront. So that way everyone that is going into this, this evening understands exactly what's going on. Right.
Very, very true. I would also say that high protocol has an unfortunate aura about it that some people think that there's an actual book out there that explains what high protocol is. And nothing could be further from the truth. There is no one way of doing high protocol as you kind of alluded to earlier.
You can do whatever the hell you want. It depends on the type of event you want to put forth. So you should never feel that you're doing something wrong in a high protocol party because you're choosing, I don't know, to do something that you've never seen done anywhere. Tin foil has aluminum foil has can still, if humiliation is part of your high protocol, that you goddamn rock your swan aluminum foil ads if you want.
Yeah. I mean, I know some people get very serious about their protocol and that's fine. That's if you want that and the people that you surround yourself with want that. But there's also an element of fun that I unfortunately think when people think that people see the term high protocol and think it's very stodgy and very sedate kind of evening that you're going to have, you can make high protocol a lot of fun.
I once attended a tea service that I haven't had that much fun since I have not had that much fun. Really, it was unlike any tea party I had ever been to and it was filled, it was served by submissive women to dominant women. I mean, I'd never even heard of something like that. And they served the most delicious teas.
These were women who really knew how to combine it. So it wasn't to then it meant something and that means it meant something to the rest of us and they were dressed in the all size, all shapes of women, dressed in the cutest, frilliest little outfits and they were having a blast and it made us have a good time. It was fun. It was high protocol.
It was well done. I'd never seen anything since then that kind of compared to that and it was all fun. It wasn't like I said, like when people think of high protocol, it just has to be so serious and quiet. It can be high protocol can be whatever you want it to be.
I really wish someone would throw a party like that because I loved it so much. Well, here's let's go ahead and put together. Here's some of the tips that I talked to Captain Awesome about. The first thing you decide is how many people are interested in this.
If you have a small community and it's only a few couples, then obviously you don't need to rent a place. You can just pick somebody's house and have your evening there with people that you trust and have vetted to come to your place. I would always suggest start simple and then allow that to build. Start with a few protocols, a certain type of dress.
The semisives will kneel here. Service can go this way. Just maybe a few things and just kind of get your feet wet into that. You know what I mean?
Instead of having a gym because sometimes people come up with the super giant list of protocols and you will address the person like this at this time and you will put the fork in your ass and then hand it to the dominant with your ass. You know whatever it's just a long list. And then it's not fun because people aren't trained in that list. Pick a few things that help people get into the space of service and pick a few things that allow people to feel the environment of being served, if that makes sense.
Something that's very simple. The next thing that you want to do is you need a lead submissive to kind of guide the other submissives and then if it's going to be a dinner, who's going to make the dinner? Who's going to buy the stuff for the dinner? Just like any event that you're going to have.
Somebody needs to be in charge of rallying the troops and getting that meal on the table because it's a dinner. So now if you're going to do some barbecue and maybe the dominance are going to cook the meat and then hand it to you and then the submissives prepare it. All that needs to be decided in advance but there needs to be somebody that rallies all the submissives and gives everyone their basic job. So that way the meal gets on the table.
The people are served. If you want to have the protocol that the dominance eat first and then after the dominance are fed and they've moved on and are relaxing in lounge chairs or whatever and then the submissives eat fine, you can establish that. But somebody needs to be in charge of the menu and just like I think we talked about with Headlee in the tea service, you don't have to go nuts on the menu either. If you only have a few couples, you don't want a 20 course meal because if you only have three submissives, that's a lot of work to try to organize and get on the table.
So just pick a simple menu, know what you're doing and then go and enjoy and have fun with it. I agree. The alpha submissive in a protocol hyper-call paraleas is an absolute must. Yeah.
Otherwise, especially if like a couple of the submissives are more little minded, your high protocol. Somebody's got a corral. High protocol meal is going to be like I brought you Pop Tarts, sir. And some chinos, chinos, chinos and like your plates covered with glitter.
Somebody needs to round up the submissives depending on the level of silliness that certain. No brats, no littles. Well, you can have brats and littles, but they just need to understand what their job is. And that you can't sabotage the evening that if you're good.
Yes. You know what I would love to have? A designated brat. Like a brat and a cage.
Yes, that's exactly. And they get to be punished as the evening goes on for their bratness. And that's a fun thing to do because, you know, of course, within reason, someone's got to be watching. By the way, this is a good thing.
We remember being in charge of events at Threshold for a while, and we had a spanking booth. And every year I always made sure to have somebody a dominant in charge of that booth because you had to make sure that the submissives lines weren't being crossed. So you had people literally paying to spank them. And I couldn't find anybody this one year.
And I made the disastrous decision to put a submissive in charge. Thinking that them saying, oh, yes, yes, I'm not going to head yes, Kathy. I will absolutely do that meant that they were going to follow the rules and led to a kind of a boundary violation with one submissive that I will never forget that lesson. You need to put somebody in charge.
So if there was a designated brat in a cage, someone would have to be in charge to make sure that when they're punished, their boundaries aren't crossed. That is very true. And that goes into the other thing. Are you going to have some sort of entertainment or is there going to be cigar service, you know, or, you know, there's so many things, Kathy.
That's the fun thing. Once you get your party kind of established and everyone feels comfortable and they've had a good time, the next party, you can say, oh, well, what if we did this? And then you let your creativity go on fat life. You start getting into the groups.
You ask people what they've done. Like Captain Awesome. He asked us, you know, we've, you know, had a lot of experience with these kinds of things. I mean, but it's just, it's so fun to do these types of dinners and special events and they can be so special and so powerful, not just fun, but also powerful and make you really feel a connection with your submissive and that service that it really is something that if you can, you should do it.
Yeah. And I like your idea of going slow. You don't have to go nuts the first time. Like you said, get your feet wet.
Just have a good time that first time. And then you and your core group get together and you decide what worked. What do we want to change for next time? Next time it's a lobster in the assets and then just, and you and the food in the, the, the, the, you know, animal human maracas in no, with live lobsters.
No, no, no. That's it. I give up. I give up on you officially.
Now it's official. It's seafood in the butt or in the vagina. It's always some seafood in an orifice with you. Well, just remember that I have one last thing to say, Kathy, make sure if you're going to have seafood in an orifice, you have an happy pin with you because nothing worse than going into a hospital in anaphylactic shock with a lobster up your ass and no explanation.
That'll ruin your, your hyper-to-car. You'll get a reputation. Don't go to that hyper-to-car. That guy in the ER with a lobster up your ass.
It's just the claws are outgoing. Click, click, click, click. Wow. Your corrosive.
Because it's faces like the size of a hippo and it's all swollen. Like, what was it for Archer? Was it Pam? Was her name Pam?
Did you ever see Archer? No, I don't know. Archer. No, I don't know.
I hope we gave some good advice to Captain Awesome. And the rest of our, well, this and theirs, I'm going to go talk to Path Girl now. The wiener monkey is seafood. Muffing.
The wiener is got Kathy thinking about big old, er, er, birdie podcasts listener segue. Path girl. Path girl. like a little girl jimmy, I dunno doo doo doo doo doo doo oo doo doo Wham, and a real nut for me.
It's Wham, path girl, little jitterbug. How you doin'? I'm doin good boogie, how you doin'? Oh just a magical, it's usual, it's very exciting to talk to you.
I love hearing about your shenanigans and discoveries and I'm pretty sure as do The Purple To Podcast listeners but today is almost a moment of pride for me to have this discussion with you. And I don't want to see him because it's not necessarily the most positive my point in this whole thing But first there is a glorious thing that we want to talk about which is this magical Really good place scene that you had. So why don't you take us through that? And then we'll get to talking about the different points and stuff about that because so you had a good ass beat and go So about two weeks ago, I went to my local dungeon Back when covid started opening everything up I joined up with a local walking munch and I met a bunch of great kinky people We call ourselves our little kinky tribe.
So I've been playing regularly with this top. He goes by doc fair lane. So I was scheduled to have knee surgery the following Monday after that event. So I was like, I need I need a good ass beating So when we get to the dungeon and he's like, what do you want to do?
And I'm like, I need to be pushed and he's like, okay, so we start going through our mutual Toys that we have we both have dragon tails we started kind of lining up all the toys we want and then it was just like Why don't I cane also? And he's like, okay, well, so you can get to it So it's just me to the cross and it starts giving a good warm up and somewhere probably about 20 minutes into the scene Never mind the fact that the comical part of the scene is my bad knee is killing me Everyone said, well, I kind of leaned over my shoulder and go shift So I can move my leg because I could just see him aiming at me with a vlog or something And like he goes to hit me and hits me in the wrong spot. So I was like, sure Yeah, comical. Oh my god.
Elderly adapting. We're falling apart path girl You're not even that old and you're falling apart. Hey, but I also took on a two-ton card war at one So this is like surgery number seven or so after this damn accident. Jesus Christ.
We'll talk about the surgery after it Let's yeah, get to your show. Yeah, so I get to about 20 minutes of the scene and I hadn't played on this side of the dungeon before I played on the cross the other side of the dungeon you couldn't get the music out Well, this one you could really hear the music and music is really important to me when I bought it because like if the pain starts getting away from me I could kind of focus on the music or if I need to push through something to get through a hard spot and then get to a better side I can concentrate in music and I don't know if it was just a combination of just the hearing the music and he was Flogging me at the time and I just started just I had a lot of stress in my life besides my knee surgery had a lot of stuff going on My personal life and a lot of just pent up emotion and I just started melting into that cross And it just like I just started to like really softly cry and it was just absolutely amazing to just people say that they let go stuff But I think in king you could truly let go because not only you're letting go in the physical that you're putting control into someone else's hands and They're giving responsibility way of your control my body right now But then just the emotional letting go of letting all that stress go letting all that pent up anger and frustration just melt literally just melting into that cross It was absolutely amazing The only downside to it was after I had to let my top know I mean we've played two three times before But I started when I started crying I kind of like he leans in every once in a while and presses his body against mine to check on me And I had to like to whisper to him music Tears he's like okay just checking but so like 10 minutes later I calm down and I start going a little bit harder And then of course my stupid disautom I don't know how that's gonna turn out you did have the surgery by the way and that did work out pretty well you're up and around pretty well Yeah, yeah, it was our first topic So I was up on it same day and the doctors liked to see scratches for the day and I get messages out tomorrow Everything looks great. So the pain that I had pre-op is gone just a little stiffness left over But that's to be expected so I'm up and kicking on it again. So all right good So that's a that's a good report I wanted to touch you on that you are you are able to move and that means more ass beatings to come in the future so A cathartic scene.
So were you expecting a cathartic scene? I know you asked to be pushed But were you know asking because you wanted catharsis? No, I was asking to be pushed because Part of it also is my my last two partners even though they one we started out kinky He wanted to go even now and the other guy was kinky, but we're gonna be in alcoholics I couldn't do kink with him. I lost a lot of my pain tolerance So I you know at the point the highest point of my bottoming slash submitting I was getting camed regularly and loving it It's just like I want to get back there So I wanted him to push me a bit not only to get me back to my of my pain tolerance So I could work toward those games But you know also for the shock factor as a health care professional going in on You know that following Monday morning and that little OR down and having him gas but all the little You're such a pig So cool though They're just literally throwing They're literally just throwing domestic abuse hotline numbers at you drawing it on your arm with a sharpie while you're unconscious It was nice sitting while I was waiting and pre-op and kind of squirming around on my bruises is very nice and comforting Did they see the bruises?
No, actually I well I didn't get any remarks Uh because like when I came out of the surgery, I only had one nurse with me that was kind of checking on me and she was just basically like Okay, fine and she was the end of the day. So I think she was more interested in like going home than like saying But nobody said anything to me. So I don't know if they saw him or not No sideways looks no like no Or maybe because she threw me out so quick maybe because she saw them. I don't know maybe she saw your loss cause It's a shame.
It's a shame. You're all proud. That's very funny. That's very very funny and very wonderful that you can Be at a place in your life where that doesn't endanger your job or your whatever and and sometimes even that can spur a conversation Yeah, and and you're somebody that's out enough that you're you could have that conversation.
So it is all in fun but But it did crack me up when you Did say that that was amazing. Well, I'm even out to my OBGYN because like, you know, I I told him years ago when I was poly and I had like The two husbands are like how's the husband how's the other husband and he'd always bring in A student with him from one of the local universities and he sees the students eyes go wide and then like he'd see the bruises on my Butter every once in a while and he's like so it looks like somebody had a fun Saturday night I'm like he'd ask me everyone say well, what's that from? What's that from? I'm like, oh, that's a dragon tail that's a vlogger and but the students their eyes but always go away I swear he does it just to like kind of like get them going.
Yeah, but I mean education in a sense that is I just wish we had more doctors like that that you could have that open conversation with and not just that But I think it's important for those students to see the doctor not automatically Just assume that you're some sort of broken wreck that's being beaten. Yeah, but it can actually hey This is something people do it's important to ask, you know Is this anything I should know about or was this for fun, you know, and I think that's important So in general, I love those stories That's great, but the thing that I really wanted to get to that I was it's in to get to Through this amazing scene with this partner And this is a partner that is not your boyfriend Right, right. This is not good. Very good friends.
Yeah, this is not somebody you're in a long-term relationship with This is not your are you even sexual with this person? No, no actually He's got a long-term live-in like girlfriend partner. They're pretty much married in my opinion So um when we even first started negotiating like one of the things he told me is I'm never gonna touch any of your quote believe it's So the only thing we have negotiated for is he kisses me on the mouth But there's no tongue and it's he's even understood that I'm still looking for a long-term boyfriend Dominant so if that ever had to be taken off the table because the guy I was dating was uncomfortable with he said that can easily go away So yeah, we're completely completely non-sexual Okay, this is good. That's good foundation for the listeners the point that I think is amazing Is that for a very long time up until maybe even this play partner?
You have been very adamant that you would never be able to go to any significant level In play with somebody that you weren't in a serious relationship with am I correct? Yep, I screened it for years And I heard you scream it many many times over the last couple years So what I want to focus on if we can for the listeners because I think it's important is the journey away From the mentality as you look for a more serious relationship something that's more long-term that meets your needs All of the things we all have our you know list of what we want in in a long-term relationship for those of us that are looking for a long-term relationship What was the process a way to try to open up to a non-relationship person as a play partner? Well previously I never really considered myself bedroom only because the guys I dated we did go out in the king scene We did go to dungeons bedroom only for me was basically only like sex in the bedroom And stuff but like I did stuff outside the bedroom where I brought them coffee and whatever But the couple of times that I played in a dungeon with a friend or someone that I met that night and I saw them do an interesting scene And we negotiated there was always something missing and I probably did about three scenes with three different guys And every time I did it there was always something missing and I just included it too Oh, it's because you're not in a relationship with that guy. That's why it sucked So then this guy over here starts talking to me about there's got to be more to it than that So we kind of dissected through all the three scenes that I did and the one thing you noted to me was the aftercare sucked And I was like but I got aftercare I mean the first scene the guy I talked to when we go to go shit He's like I don't do aftercare who's good at your aftercare and I was on a date with a guy and I've seen him maybe two times I'm like oh, he'll do my aftercare, but like we went to the aftercare room and I just sat in his lap He didn't do anything We just kind of sat there and just you know did nothing and then I was like all right And even another guy that I played with like he didn't do any aftercare either It was kind of like even though he sat there for a few minutes and talked it wasn't the aftercare I needed it was not after care for me.
So That's the realization you made me come to and I was like There's also a realization that even though I knew there was a difference between bottoming and submitting I love to submit I love to serve my dominance But I never thought I could bottom to somebody because I thought that I would have feelings for a person and then I'd be in trouble with crap I really like this person more than I should or I can't like this person because you're attached to somebody else There's gonna be a problem. So when I started playing with doc we talked about that for a little bit and From start to finish It was pretty much the perfect scene and what impressed me the most was we were doing a play party at his house And he went back to his partner and said hey, I'm gonna go do a senior path girl We're doing a B and C and the way his house is constructed He left you would be playing in the garage. She had a little set up there and the garage door was open So anybody could walk in and look and he's like are you and even his his girlfriends like are you okay with me coming in and looking? I'm like absolutely I'm playing with your boyfriend sure But even after the scene was over Notice that I was starting to get a little spacey took me down from the chains I was on brought me to a couch wrapped me in a blanket his girlfriend brought me a bottle of water And so he sat there felt about 10 minutes and you know whispering you did good and you know You're a good girl and you know and just it was from start to finish the perfect scene And that's when I was kind of like I can't do this I can't bottom and even you know even days later I was like crap now.
I'm gonna get attached. I'm like no, he's a good friend. I really care about him I really love him. I love his his partner, but it's not the love of being in a long-term relationship But he's not love of a boyfriend or a husband or what have you so it's a different kind of love So now another thing that you had talked about that I remember was the after after care not just the after care After the play scene But the potential for a drop the next day because you're playing with somebody that you're not in a relationship with where If you're in a relationships with somebody you would hope that you know you're gonna be spending time with them You know after the play scene the next day and then going forward So that was a big concern of yours that you would feel abandoned Yeah, after you played with the bottom.
How was that in this situation? Oh, that was again absolutely perfect the next day he checked on me He's like make sure you're hydrated so the drop monster doesn't get you and it wasn't like we played a scene and he forgot about me We regularly talk two three times a week even if it's just hey, how you're doing how's work You know, hey, we got an upcoming event blah blah blah, you know, and I talk with his partner too where I'm talking with her Hey, honey, how's your work day? Whatever. So it's it's become an absolutely wonderful friendship But at the same time a really good top to play with from start to finish Who really understands all the inner workings of a complete scene and then after the scene making sure that person's taken care of Not only like after the scene, but at least for days to come afterwards to make sure nothing goes wrong First off congratulations.
Thank you on finding a quality top Yes that understands what you need and is actually into making sure that you have what you need I think that's an incredibly special thing. I wish it wasn't so special I wish it was just the norm, but it's kind of not kind of like finding the perfect relationship is not the norm And it's actually kind of rare, but in this case you won a mini lottery By at least finding somebody that while you were looking for the more serious relationship with sexuality and commitment and the things that you're looking for In a relationship you can at least still play yes, you can at least still find some sort of connection with yourself Challenging yourself physically connecting with another person Maybe not as much of the ds, but there's still a certain power exchange that absolutely goes on Especially if you can go a little bit deeper with somebody now. Let me ask a question Do you find that this takes off a little bit of the pressure Maybe the negative pressure and urgency in the back of your mind while you're looking for a more serious relationship It does and it's just just to say also it's not just with me He's doing this. I've seen him do several scenes with several other women and their needs are being met No, also where it may be like some people don't like aftercare some people like just getting a bottle of water and let's talk in whatever He's really a true gentleman when it comes to the scene But as far as blowing off the theme it definitely does and especially with myself a theme where It seems like going back out into dating world now.
It seems to be harder lately I don't know if that's because it's post-covid or because it's been you know three months That's been in a serious relationship and it's somebody who truly appreciates me as a person But also says hey, you look sexy tonight how you're doing So it's even out to guy and he appreciates me as a person and as a sexy human being It's it's nice to have that little bit of um Not gratification validation exactly that is just and and it definitely getting those little cathartic scenes or even just painful scenes where it's just two three days later. It's like, you know, I'm still rubbing around on those roots It's going oh that was a really good night. You know, it definitely takes the edge off. So Once again continuing on with the point Finding that really and of course I have a lot of opinions about this I've shared some of them with you.
They are not necessarily positive for humanity But my belief is finding a legitimate long-term relationship with somebody that's a good communicator Kinky has things in common with you has things that inspire you Interest that they have that are interesting to you to learn new things about yourself That type of relationship is very hard to find. Yes, it's very rare at the best Uh, you connect with someone for a couple years and then some shit happens or something, you know, and then it goes So to find that I don't know we'll call it our kink disney Relationship, you know our prince or princess or non-binary charming Um to find that is actually really really difficult and I see a lot of people As time goes on and especially as you start getting into your mid 30s and then early 40s mid 40s 50, you know late 40s late 40s all of a sudden there's a lot of pressure There's a lot of pressure because there's sort of an ego in there that says I deserve this Where is this? I watched those goddamn Disney flicks and I added my own kink to it my kink disney should happen god dammit Where is kinky prince charming dammit? Where is kink charming god dammit?
But you know what there's no guarantees that it's coming this week or next week And it may never come And at some point you have to Decide Am I going to martyr my sexuality martyr my kink martyr who I am and hold out for this uh kink charming Or am I going to try to at least have some positive experiences In the meantime, that doesn't mean you you stop it doesn't mean you give up hope it doesn't mean you don't stop looking or bettering yourself To become more attractive be blah blah blah blah it just means that you realize hey this search may take a while Right in the meantime. I should probably try to live my life and find a way that makes it work And that's why I'm so proud of you for kind of pushing against that you had a really strong program And you were like nope. This is blah blah blah. This is it.
It's only going to be in this serious relationship And then you challenge that in yourself and as a result This is a positive benefit of that Right. Well, quite honestly, I really do have you to thank boogie for that because you were the one that challenged me Why do you think your bedroom only and it's just you pushed you pushed me and I needed it because it was just All those years. I'm like no, I can't do kink without not something love it a guy I can't do kink unless when I'm love it a guy and then when we sat down and broke every scene I had done piece by piece you're like There was I mean you maybe come to a realization I never had before was like that's why it was the aftercare that stops I was like let's try one with good aftercare and lo and behold there you go and One um my friend Kayla who does another pod kinky podcast when I talk with her one time She's like stop going to munch's and sloshes and all these things to find a boyfriend go to make friends Yes, especially with me getting divorced my divorce was final in February I gave up a lot of my friends over the years when I got married my friends were my ex-husband's friends So now that I'm getting divorced understandably his friends are kind of more gravitating toward him They don't hate me, but there's no reason for them to kind of interact with me anymore unless we were together So I made a promise to myself that I'm never gonna give up my friends again for anybody for it not for a guy not for a job for anything So I've been going out over the last you know seven eight months making these kinky friends We do have an elephant together as well But building a foundation of kinky friends that I can hang out with and lunches and sloshes and we talk about bullshit And we talk about kinky stuff and we talk about vanilla stuff and building that friendship back and then along the way kink charming Maybe you're strolling in with one of their friends or oh, hey, you don't know my friend so-and-so This is kink charming nice to meet you after all and there you go Absolutely, and I wish I absolutely wish that for you I think you're an amazing person and of course I wish kink charming to Wrap a chain around your neck and drag you off your feet That's okay Let her call her and leash that be preferable. Okay fine fucking diva Jesus Christ, but I think that Another point that I want to make and this is just an ugly kind of point about humanity And I know when I see desperation That's not a turn on to me.
Yeah, I am so and I'm obviously much more non-conformist free spirit off the grid fucking psycho guy So I don't think I'm the same as the majority But I do know that when you get in a room with somebody and you can literally they walk in with their ticking clocks sitting next to them And they're saying I don't have much time You better punch these boxes right now and let's see if you're kink charming and if you're not I don't got time for this bullshit Go go go go go. That's a lot of pressure That's a lot of pressure that I don't know about all the other men and women out there But when I feel that clock and I feel that pressure all of a sudden I don't feel like you actually want me I feel like you just want a thing and that I am possibly going to fill those holes Right, right and that makes me feel like shit And I don't want to be a part of that So when you have other play partners and you you're kind of like able to just relax into meeting new people making new friends Exploring the world around you and it just becomes more authentic because then you meet people and as you build that with them It seems more like you care about the person that's going to enhance your life rather than just I'm looking for kink charming Right, right and one of the things I work regularly with a kink friendly therapist And she also used to work with my ex-husband My ex-husband was somebody who would be on the dating apps and would get desperate because like he'd see me opening up my dating app and I had A hundred guys to choose from and he's got like five so the one that would respond he would pounce on her and go Oh, you like me. Let's go do stuff and it's like I had to teach myself not to be desperate I had to I mean she also talked to me about settling like there's a difference between settling because you want to and settling because you need to Like if you want to meet kink charming, but he's not a ten but kink charming is a five and he's got an awesome personality You know what I may want somebody who may be more attractive, but I'd rather have a really amazing Personality five then a ten that's gonna be like, oh, please don't open your mouth It's just you know, I'm balanced. I'm walking a fine line between I'm not a ten But I'm not gonna settle for any guy who walks the door who basically shows interest in me because I'm worth more than that And in the meanwhile building up those friendships and being able to play with the tops I'm playing with And I'm even open to playing with one or two other tops in our group We're kind of talking back and forth, you know, very preliminary stuff But it's it's nice to not have to settle it'd be a difference if I wanted to settle and I've even been talking some of the Guys on my dating apps going look I have this amazing non-sexual relationship with this guy and I want to keep it And if you're not okay with that, I'm sorry.
You're not for me, right? So whoever I eventually hopefully settle down with preferably in the kink community But at least hands would have to have a healthy understanding of look if you don't believe me come to the dungeon one I or come to a play party this house one night and I will show you what I do with him And then we can kind of you go see that you know so much of an ela community doesn't believe doesn't know that Like 75% of the stuff that goes on on the dungeon is not sexual they just automatically equate kink and sex I wish that the vanilla world would understand that that's not the case So but it's nice not having to settle down Well, I think it's a matter once again of us getting out there and you showing bruises to doctors and and that's doing a show And I think we're doing the best we can to show that to the world but in that bigger picture You having your needs met and Taking away some of that pressure. I think is Literally gives you some of your life back. Yes It gives me my it gives me my happiness back because it's not I go out to a monster slosh and I'll crap I didn't meet a guy tonight.
I go to a dungeon play party now And I had an awesome scene with with doc or I had an awesome night with my kinky friends And it's just it makes me happy and that happiness fills up The times that I feel like a piece of crap like why haven't I you know? Why can't I find somebody or you know this guy ghost of me or whatever? So it definitely fills a lot of the needs that I have and I plan on keeping that you know new guy in my life or not It's getting it's staying in my life. Well, god damn it path girl.
This has been an amazing conversation I'm I'm almost positive that our listeners are rooting for you happy that your knee is better and really just happy that you found A good partner and that is fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing that with us And thank you boogie for pushing me to actually dissect the part that part of my life And I really do owe you a lot for that because you gave me a huge gift blowjob Considering considering you know, okay. I'm dragged on my way. We'll talk.
You know, I'll just drive 3000 miles That better be a goddamn good blowjob That is the end of show three 24 Thank you to all of you who support us by listening to our show Thinking us out to your friends tagging us on fit life or supporting us on patreon.com forward slash perverted podcast speaking of which I love you all of our patreon supporters because of people like you that boogie has a hot sweaty metal box to go jingles in That hot metal sweaty box Candy I was more thinking about your hot metal sweaty box, but uh, oh I walked into that one. I heard it. Well, I I do I have to go in there literally I have until like 930, you know, am when it gets starts getting too hot So I have to go in if I'm gonna do a jingle or some editing or whatever But most of what I do now in the hot season is in the library until that time that life comes together and we get indoors with a Oh, there's a chick across the street right now. I'm looking through the window a homeowner And she just bent over and like her sweats just pulled over her ass And like showed some crack.
I'm literally just staring straight like a hundred yards away I need to get laid what a middle of a podcast mr Man, but she just literally just gave me some no some ass from like a hundred Gash shot away from that ass and I am literally I am literally putting my naked chest up to the glass on the window Just to let her know that I approve. Thank you strange lady sitting there all floppy in a library chair Notice I just have my back to the people that are probably staring at me in the library As I'm like, I love you. That's what you should do. Yes.
Stop it. Oh, thank you If you'd like to reach out to us for any reason drop us a line at pervertedpodcast at gmail.com or you can reach us through our FETlife profile entitled perverted podcast. Well, that is the end of our show and I'm glad for some Perviness to happen. Kathy.
I'm really happy that you had a great time at a party I'm getting kind of excited for the things coming up really excited to spend some time with you at DomCon and start getting back out there Get some people and some interviews start kicking up the fucking pace a little bit I'm excited and we will see you guys next week for show three 25