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Hello and welcome to the perverted podcast. The show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky lifestyle, sex, and the human mind. Recording once again through Zencaster, as I said at my desk, and Boogie sits at the library, while some crotchety librarian points at him and tells him to put his mask on. Well, it's not, I mean, it's important.
We're supposed to be wearing our masks and I believe in that, but I'm talking into the microphone and it cuts the sound kind of in half. And I am in this room completely by myself. So... Now there's Ratchet to just, you know, come here.
Hey, you know what? I am not here to fight the system because I am a big picture kind of thinker. And... Yes, Kathy.
Yeah. I think about the big picture. And the big picture is, is if I get kicked out of the library, I'm back to recording in the car. All you have to do is give her a good little bit of, you know, a little librarian kind of sex behind the counter.
You'd be solid. Well, I could. I really could. So what you're saying is right now, because she's over there, I can see her.
So what you're saying is I should knock on the window, make a little motion, maybe pull my shorts pants up a little bit, show a little thigh, show a little thine, and kind of do... That does not look sexy at all. That literally looks like I have an itchy hemorrhoid. That is the dance that I am going to get kicked out for sure now.
You never know. If she's hard up enough, she might look at that and go, Oh, pro finger? You know, beggars can't be choosers. You can't be my motto all my life.
You can. You're just going to be a very, very lonely beggar. That's it. Sometimes you just got to suck it up.
Kathy, anything amazing having this week? Well, as usual, I really try and find something amazing because I know that you like it when I can talk about something amazing. But I am still in the middle of, you know, therapy upheaval. And this week wasn't that great.
But I do have news for day after tomorrow. I am attending another play party. Ah, very good. Is that the Saturday night one?
Yes, I will be going to threshold and we're going to be meeting friends there and socializing and hopefully trying to remember what it was like to look forward to an evening with friends and watching all kinds of kinkiness going on. And having a good time. I mean, I remember those days. They were pretty darn fun.
And I want them back. And so I have reached out to a number of friends to say, Hey, we're all meeting on this night. And they are all surprisingly as eager as I am. And hopefully next month next week, I will have some fun stuff to report.
Well, I may be entering the party with you, not with you, but I may be entering the party where you were at. Yeah, I don't want anyone to know where together. So let's enter separately. That is goes both ways, Missy.
I don't want you cramping my style either. All right. I promise I will not cramp your quote unquote style. I have style.
It's just right now, just a very not desired style, you know, it's just not it's not one of those you see on a magazine kind of style. It's more like crumpled up, ready to be recycled or possibly used, you know, for some nefarious cleaning activity magazine. It's what I call homeless herpes. Hey, wait, where the herpes come in?
Oh, no, wait, I'm the one with her. I get tested. Actually, I haven't been tested in a while. I guess it's time to go back because I'm going to get back into the kinkiness, but they don't, you know, they don't test for herpes.
They do. Well, at the clinics, you have to ask for it. If you have your own healthcare provider, but in the free services, it's, you know, it may be a little dishonest, but you say I had sex with somebody who said they were exposed to herpes and then they'll do the test on you. And so a little fib, a little fib, actually just called a lie, but it gets you the test.
So that works out. But yeah, I need to show up a little bit later and see if I can get in as as we said before, there'll be a lot of party passes going around at that party and I feel kind of guilty just showing up and wiping out their whole bank for the night with a bunch of party passes. So, so I step, I'll just come in later. And that's my manic thing.
I don't expect anyone to have it, but I am kind of manic about that stuff. So, so I'll show it. I'm just going to call it crazy. Just flat out.
Well, it's, it's crazy. So what, it's those parties have to be registered in advance. And they only have a certain amount of people they can let in. And if most of those people they absolutely do not have to be registered in advance.
There is just a max of 90 participants they can let in. Is it 90? I thought it was 60. I already looked.
It's 90. And you don't have to register? No, it saves your place. If you've registered by register, I mean by your ticket ahead of time.
But anybody can show up and pay at the door. And as long as they show their their vaccine card, you just get in whenever you want. Well, then maybe I'll see you at the party. Oh my God.
Fine. Fine. I'll see you at the party. I think it'll be fun.
I look forward to it. And I have a little prepping I have to do for that day. But I think it's going to be fun and it'll go alongside with my journey into getting back into it. I actually was on Fat Life today in the groups hunting.
I was hunting Kathy. I got my hunt and coon. I was hunting. I was hunting.
I was hunting. I was hunting. I was hunting. I was hunting hunting.
And just, you know, seeing who's in there and I was doing my little method, which has, of course, anything online. If you were a guy has a super high rejection rate to even be answered. So I look at someone's profile and then, you know, obviously I look at some pictures and see if they're cute, then I read their thing and see if they're in a relationship and whatever. And then when I email, I usually just write something, you know, that mentions some of the things that they have in their profile.
So they know I read and then you just send it and let it go. You know, you don't expect that response back because 90% of the time you don't get a response back. Or if you do, it's like, oh, thank you. That was very nice.
And you know, you know, they're not interested because they don't ask any questions or whatever. So that's my method. So that's your method, huh? I started doing, I actually wrote a poem for a little today.
She was real cute. And I wrote a poem, you know, with her name in it because I'm cool like that. And like a cutesy little poem. It was funny.
And then I sent it. And then when I looked, I was like, oh, she lives in Minneapolis. Oh, man, you know what? Rule number one is make sure they live near you, boogie.
Yeah, well, you know what you're going to do. I look at the talk because a lot of times they say Antarctica, you know, and then you go and you see in their groups where they actually live. So yeah, it's not very, it's not a very smart tactic because it's not usually by watching their feed or anything that tells you where they live, at least in what area. Yeah.
And it's like, as long as you're smart and this person didn't have their face or identifying marks in. So, you know, that I would say would be a step safer to, you know, interact and have, you know, a little information about what city you may be in. But when people show their face and then they think they're being cool by putting Antarctica or someplace where they don't live as their main thing, but then join groups that all have the city they live in in the group name. Yeah.
Not that's not that's not clever and it's not a imma stereo. So you are not hiding from anyone. It is not it does not protect you. So, but if you aren't showing your face and stuff like that, like this person wasn't then then I'd say it's a little bit.
It's okay. Because you know, you do want to know stuff that's going on in your area, but that's why I would always say start another profile that doesn't have any of your pictures or who you are, whatever. And then join those groups so you can stay active in that group. But then on your regular profile, don't put that if you're if you don't want people to know where you are.
Right. Right. Important safety tip. Important safety tip.
But yeah, after I wrote the Cutesy poem, I felt proud of myself. I'm on. That's cute. Yeah.
That's cute. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, I don't, you know, usually you know, when you're dealing with someone who is, I'm going to say very popular, right?
Somebody who's pretty young who posts a lot of very provocative, sexy pictures. When you've got a bunch of stuff in your favor, a lot of stuff that's that's going doing it for you. And draws a lot of partners or potential partners to you. You tend to be more.
Pickier care. No, careless with with the good interactions that you do have because you've got so many people coming to you. And the truth is that if you you've got someone who reaches out to you, who has taken the time to read your profile, who does something as precious and as unique as writing a little poem, especially for you, or does any number of things that that point that really signifies that at least they're interested in you that they see you. That is a very rare, rare thing.
And I unfortunately, I have found that when people, yeah, it is very rare boogie. Most most men. I know you're just wing manning for me right here. Like I was just like, that's just a dorky thing I do.
And there's a lot of guys, a lot of guys that read the profile and we'll try to make some sort of comment. But I also don't go for the super popular ones. I'm not stupid. You know, the ones that have all sexy, you know, the super sexy, whatever, fat lifers with 10,000 followers.
No, I go for, you know, just being honest, I go for normal looking women, you know, and that are more in my, you know, my kind of range. I want to get myself a little help, you know. Okay. All right.
Shall we go on? I like how you're just now continually replaying how stupid I am and how funny it is that I'm trying to pick up on girls and that it just gives you these little intermittent chuckles as those visuals hit your head. I can kind of sense it. No, no, I just, you know, you have a very different way of looking at things in your little cray cray.
And sometimes I see you totally sabotaging yourself. And I try and give you the tiniest little bit of compliment because I actually happen to think that there are a lot of areas in which you shine. I mean, surely there are a lot of areas where you and I absolutely do not see eye to eye. But, you know, I think it's a given that if I'm giving you any kind of compliment, you tend to throw it off.
Well, I mean, I do appreciate that you acknowledge my my brofingers is that I that I do take time, but we also have a show together where we are at a certain level. And I'm going to go ahead and tune our horns. I wouldn't say we're the best of the best of the best communicators, the most entertaining, the most whatever, but we are a step above. And we do take time.
And a lot of that's just because of all the discussions that we've had that make us very aware of another person's feelings, how another person might feel. And so when we're trying to meet someone, I think those skills come out and maybe they don't seem like as big a deal to us or me because we spend so much time talking about it. It just seems more natural than special. Right.
Right. Well, that's good. I know I'm a love God, but I just don't look like one right now. I'm an incognito love God right now.
Oh my God. For your peace of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted us permission to do so including today's author who is called single wrote a post called creative evil a writing series on how I design a scene. I have to tell you when I read this title, I got all just tingly going, Oh, I can't wait to see how someone named creative evil is going to design a scene because that is very as a voyeur that is very interesting to me. OK, I'm with you.
I thought it was maybe because there was a creative as a prefix and you're like, you know, you have creative, you know, the X dickhead and now you have creative evil. So you had the explorer and you're like, OK, that adventure was OK and it ended poorly. And now you're like, I'm just going to go for creative evil next. Let's just cut to the chase.
I had to burst your bubble, but I actually didn't even think of that until you just brought it up, but creative evil just has so much potential to it. I can't wait to hear what you're going to say. All right. So he writes to me a good scene is not about using particular toys, a good scene like art storytelling or rollercoasters.
It's about evoking an emotional experience. This emotional component is what separates a scene from the early days of experimenting with toys, new forms of play and even new partners. Novelty is its own emotional component, but once the newness of the experience is gone, many feel like it's lost its magic. It's not as fun or it feels hollow.
So they move on. Novelty must always give way to some other emotional residents to avoid an experience becoming flat. So understanding my bottom and what kind of experience they are looking for and making sure I want to share that experience with them is vital to creating a scene that isn't emotionally flat. For many, this conversation is often far more vulnerable than the actual scene, knowing what we want well enough to communicate it and risk rejection is hard, but it becomes easier with experience and as you learn to trust your partner.
And you are not disappointed. I was not disappointed. Well, I mean, I didn't I didn't get turned on as much by the name as you did. But I liked the title and I'm like, oh, and then I saw how it was laid out.
I could just see the formatting and I'm like, all right, this is someone who's thought about what they're going to say and they even put it in order. And I love seeing that stuff because because that's not just I mean, some people ramble real good. We do it for six years. But it is really good when you see that somebody has thoughts and they want people to understand.
And I thought this was an incredibly clear post talking very well about the different nuances and dynamics of creative play and also reinvigorating your play when you start to hit your slumps, which we, of course, have talked about many times on the show. I really, really enjoyed how this was this was laid out because it was laid out in a very short form. It was not a book. And it really laid in the thing that I've always told people that the best toy in your toy bag is intention.
And we've said it before on the show and he said it really eloquently that a lot of times when you're newer, you're focused on the toys and that I don't know things and like he talked about the toys, you can learn the skills and then, you know, you're going to go through this toy and that toy and then it's not going to be fun anymore. But what is always fun, what is always exciting and what is always engaging is the intention that you bring to that scene on both ends. You know, in the sense of this post, we're talking about creating that scene, creating that environment, stringing up all the instruments of the orchestra and then starting the symphony. That is exciting from the top point of view, but it's also exciting from the bottom's point of view.
And you also hit on this, that vulnerable interaction that has to take place, that has to take place for you to get to those next levels of intention. Because I thrive, you can try shit. I can be like, oh, I'm going to do this wax play thing and I'm going to peel the wax off and, you know, cane your leg. You know, I can have all these plans.
But if my bottom and I haven't really communicated about what they're looking for and what they're interested in or what they may be curious about or what they can handle, then it's so easy for it to just kind of, you know, maybe be pretty and kind of fun. But you're just going to miss that intensity and connection because we haven't kind of interact sometimes to get lucky. I'm not saying you don't get lucky and have a hot fucking thing. I didn't see in with minimal negotiation, but I have found some of the deeper scenes that I have had with partners have been because both of us were on board with that intention.
Yes, I'd not agree with anymore. That's so weird that you and I see totally eye to eye on one of the most important aspects of playing or anything we could do. And I highly recommend anybody who's interested in this to read that post because is really right. It's a very well written post, and I had to cut out a lot of it that you might find interesting.
So if you ever you're interested, just go to our perverted podcast group on fat life and one of the stickies right at the top says fat life post where I've linked everything and you can read Sigel's whole post. But I agree that some of the most frustrating placings I've ever done are scenes in which I simply cannot get through to the person I'm playing with whether top or bottom. They drive me insane because the whole scene feels completely flat to me. There are certain, like you say, of course there's certain things that you can enjoy during a scene without having to make that connection with someone or having either one of you explain with the other one side of a scene.
And of course when you're playing for the first time you can't always expect to have that kind of connection. But there are maybe two people that I've played with in the past that for whatever reason I could not get them to open up. I could not get them to express any of their desires. And it's like it's like doing a scene fucking blind.
I don't know where I'm going because to me that exchange of energy, that exchange of passion for whatever it is you're doing is absolutely not there. If you're missing the key component to a scene is to know what your partner wants and desires. And he's absolutely hit the nail on the head when he says for many this conversation is often far more vulnerable than the actual scene. It's so easy to walk in and stay cold or stay distant or on the surface and say yeah just do this and this to me.
And some people actually do that for specific reasons. I'm not saying that that's bad because sometimes people are needing a cathartic scene and they need that just the impact play of it. So I get it. But otherwise to walk into a scene and not be able to get the other person to open up and express to you what it is that they're looking for and what they desire and what is really going to do it for them in this scene.
I just I want no part of that because I feel like it is a complete waste of time for me. Well, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this that there nobody owes me that level of vulnerability. You know, just like nobody owes me a response when I write a Midorkey poem.
There is a certain amount of acceptance that I have to have that I may only be qualified to give you certain types of play that you'll enjoy or that I'll enjoy doing with you. It goes it goes both ways. So but that being said, as somebody who is working on being a good communicator, a better communicator and understanding that not everybody has had all of the decades of beating, you know, all of these ideas and philosophies into my head that my partner may not have those skills. And it's my job if I want to see if I can bring that person into the energy with me.
It's my job to try to create that environment for them that they can feel comfortable sharing some of those things with. And if they're not ready to share those things, then I just need to accept that I'm going to just keep it a certain way. And it may not go as intense as I want on an emotional level. Some of the I've talked about some of these scenes on the show where things just became otherworldly and there was just great internal psychological changes and cathartics and those types of things.
I just have to accept that nobody owes me that level of intention, but I can still try to get it out of them if I can. Right. And I'm actually, I think that there are different levels of vulnerability, different levels of communication. Nope, I'm not in any way saying that you walk into a scene and I immediately want you to lie down on my therapist's couch and tell me everything that's going on in your life.
Because I had seen ones where someone who's actually a good friend of mine at the time, actually, were not anymore, said I just had a really bad few weeks, emotional. I've had a tremendous amount of turmoil in my life. And I just, I need someone who I trust to use an impact toy on me in a specific way. And, and I don't want you to stop until this happens, because that will be a sign that whatever.
And I won't go into it more detailed than that. But that alone is a tremendous amount of vulnerability and a tremendous amount of information. And that's all I needed with that one or two sentences. They explained to me what was going on and what they wanted.
And I could then decide just as he also says in the post, if I want to go along for that right. And I did. And it was an absolutely perfect scene from that respect. So when I say that I need to find out what's going on emotionally and what you want from a scene, it, it, I'm actually talking from my experience about people who they just won't open their mouths.
They won't tell you what's going on. They don't, for whatever reason, some people are too shy. Some people can actually be scared. Some people can be submissive and have the incorrect assumption that a submissive is not supposed to speak up.
They can have their own internal issues when it comes to, you know, being forthcoming about what their desires are. I totally get it. But without something, I can't go into a scene like that. And I, like you certainly don't expect it.
I don't have any right to demand that you do it. But I have every right to walk away because without that, without some kind of connection, it's just not going to make it for me. On the other, but the one thing that is an exception to that is service topping. Sure.
And service topping is something that I enjoy under certain circumstances. And that in my mind seems to be a different thing than what we're discussing here. Well, I like, I mean, I like a lot of different types of play. So I can adapt to a certain point.
There is a point where I have walked away from negotiations and said, no, we're, I'm not the top for you. And that's not going to work. But I do have a lot of flexibility in the things that I like because I do like demo topping where you're just trying things on someone. And then it's still fun because one of the things that I get out of play, probably for me, one of the most important things is a distraction from the shitty crazy voices in my head.
So even if I'm just focusing on flogging or spanking or just certain types of sensation play, I'm still enjoying the play. I may not be getting into those deeper levels of connection that I also enjoy. But I can still enjoy myself in a lot of different types of play. What I've had to start really analyzing and during this time of absence from a lot of play is how much my play in the last few years, especially in the love lab was very sexual based.
And I have talked about that on the show before that because I'm worried that, you know, because sex was supposed to be involved in the scene because the level I was a lot of sexual experiments and that was amazing and fun. But I kind of started getting away from the longer scenes where I set up things and then we had those big experiences because it wasn't about it didn't go sexual. And so I had to really start thinking about that. And then there's reasons for that and my impotency and fear of my dick not getting hard because when I'm spanking, I'm not really turned on and then blah, blah, blah.
So what I've been really considering is just I'm not obviously going to leave wanting to fuck people, but I do want to start exploring going back into the scenes that did not end sexually. Right. And I want to start creating those types of scenes because I really did enjoy the focus of putting together a scene and trying to create, you know, kind of an emotional arc in that roller coaster of up and down. And it really was a, it's a lot of fun.
And so I just need to be able to separate those things to say this scene is not going to be sexual. So I need to find people and partners that it doesn't have to end sexually for them. And there's a lot of people that play that don't want any sexuality at the end of the play scene. So, so I think it's very interesting to go over this time.
When I saw this, it really got me back to that place, try and like, I miss doing those planned out longer scenes where you really created something that wasn't just ending up with orgasms and screaming. Right. Yeah. Are you good in a very good post?
A lot of fun. Get in there, get in there and do it. Mm. Yeah.
Oh, you keep me out when you do that. It is a, you know, I got both ends because a part of me does really miss the sexual part and all of the fun and, you know, sticking things in people and end of scopes and, you know, blow darts and all the shit that we used to do. I really did enjoy that playful sexuality, but I was thinking things and people is also is always really good. It is fun.
It is. There's, there's no doubt. And that's a fun that we deserve to get back to as well. But I would like to just spank somebody and beat them and flog them and create those bruises and welts and screams and, and swimming through chocolate.
And then you could taste the chocolate with your skin. I told, I told them on the show. No, no, no, no, no, no. This was the subspace that they went through.
They went into a subspace where they were actually floating through chocolate, but they could taste the chocolate with their skin. This was a, this was a, this was where they went in their subspace. And it was incredible. Like they were just flying.
Look at you. You can't even have food play. It's not even food play. It's gross.
I'm not thinking about it. It's disgusting. It's eating with your flesh. How is that even?
With your flesh. It's grossing me out. Sounds like stuff like that. Like all these little mouths just open up.
All right. I'm going to, I'm going to just turn off the show right now. If you don't know what I'm going to pull over the show right now, that's right. I didn't need to do some perverted mailbox to get this taste out of my mouth.
All right. Well, let's play the dangle. Tell us what's well tell us to go to hell. Just tell us fucking something on perverted mail box.
So a while back, we did a stuff I can advise for Kazoo about possibly moving out with the play partners or partners and buying a house together. Remember that we gave some advice about, dude, that's a big fucking thing that you need to be very careful. So she wrote us and she says, hi, PP parents. And then she says, Oh, you best believe that greeting is sticking.
I can't believe this is what gets me every time is that she said, PP parents, and you and I made such a fucking thing about it. And I always forget in the moment, if you make a fucking thing about it, you know, the listeners are going to keep doing it. Oh, yeah, I love it. I want to be mommy.
You can be daddy. All right. Hi, PP parents. Thank you so much for your insight during some fucking advice last week.
My partners and I all had a good sit down and we discussed how I was feeling. I'm still not entirely sure what I want out of my living situation, but I feel much, much better knowing that my partners are willing to listen and work with me while I figure it out. I hate sitting in a decision like this, especially with something that feels so big and monumental. But this is a long term decision and deserves long term thought.
Your inputs are certainly coming with me as I think. Oh, oh, dad. My mom, OK, don't make me into dad. Why can't I be mom?
Because I just had a major breakthrough during my therapy that involved what an asshole my father was and I don't want anything to do with your dad. Father term right now. Well, that's why you take that power back and you go, you don't even earn it. No, I get it.
No, I don't want that motherfucker anywhere in my head. I'm mom. Fine. Be mom.
OK, just a title. I'm going to bitch about that in my host topic next. OK, fine. I have one more.
Well, that's great. Well, first off, congratulations to Kazoo for having a great conversation and seeing the benefits of that. I love when we hear about that because sometimes those fears about having those conversations are so overwhelming. And on perverted podcast, we have dozens and dozens of examples that you can put in your evidence bin that that scary vulnerable communication works out more than it doesn't.
Yes, absolutely. Good for her. All right. The next email is from our good friend, Var LaTour, which is, of course, I have not said that name, right?
But it's the best that we dumb, stupid, hate Americans can do who writes that. He entered in. I like how we're hitting in Los Angeles. Just across the board, which, by the way, Kathy, I would like to take just a moment for the perverted podcast listeners around the world to right now, right now, in this moment, to give a little thanks to Rednecks.
Oh, my God. Let me tell you why, Kathy, because Rednecks are the last group, the last group on Earth that I know of that you can make fun of and they don't get offended. It's the last one. That's true.
I think I know what the song at the end of this show is going to be. What song? That Redneck one that you have the. Oh, I do have a card.
Oh, I mean, Jesus, you know, I'm like, Jesus, I don't even remember that. OK, if I remember. For some reason, I think it's because I sang that song. Oh, OK, maybe I was saying that.
So I remember when we used to saying we got to do that again. I keep putting that on. Yeah, I know you keep saying that it's never going to happen, but then let's sing that song. All right.
Fine. Can I get to the next? That's fine. But thank you, Rednecks.
Thank you for having us. Since I fucking humor. Oh, my God. All right.
Viralature says, Hey, there, P P peeps, just to make Kathy feel better about her granny panties because I'm at episode two, three, by the way. Like, remember the Apple G, the granny panties episode where I admitted to liking granny panties. I also remember an episode where our listeners bought you granny panties. I think I remember that, but I told a story that I bought the wrong kind by mistake.
And they were totally granny panties. I put them on. I'm like, I'm never taking these off. They feel so good.
All right. She says, today I was visiting my 97 year old granny and she asked me to put her laundry in the washer while I was putting her granny bras in the zipped laundry bag. I noticed all of them were the exact same type I have on. I'm a kinky perv and a fairly popular play partner in our small community.
And I use the same bras as my real life actual grandmother. Oh, my God. Viralature. Thank you for writing that because that makes me very, very happy.
Well, look, you get to a certain point and it's the same thing with me wearing fake crocs and for you wearing granny panties. There comes a point to where we choose our battles fashion wise. Like when I if I go to threshold on Saturday, I'm going to pull out my one pair of jeans and a shirt that looks okay and I'm going to have it, you know, whatever, and I'm going to try to look a little bit presentable when I go to the club. But the rest of the time, that's not my battle because I don't care if anyone is attracted to me.
When I go to the gym, when I'm here at the library, when I do whatever I do it. So to me, I'm just going to be as comfortable as I can. And I think you get to it because when you're young, when when you're young, you're like, Oh, my God, I can't leave to go to the gas station unless I got on the right shoes or pants or, you know, I know people that couldn't leave the house unless they cake their face and that fucking makeup. And, you know, it was just a real burden.
And then you get to a certain age and you're like, I actually don't have to do that because I'm not, I don't care if the people at the market think I'm sexy. I think that's it. Although I do we did see a Benadgetzer it tagged us on a status little thing that she did. You remember Benadgetzer?
She wrote something about accidentally outing herself and the people around her at a munch by yelling something out and not realizing that there were straights around. I do. I do remember that. But apparently, but remember Benadgetzer it is I went trolling for that name and realized it was a dude.
Oh, the dude. I went after fucking Dune. And so she writes a post where it says, where in my writing is cited and Dune is insulted. And she says, she says, I'm so torn.
This podcast doesn't care about your feelings, but it's also kind of fun. See, look at what you did. Your hatred. Your hatred just intimidated, annihilated, a poor Dune fan.
And why is it? I don't hate the poster or what they wrote. I was just commenting on the name and all my dad didn't like Dune, but I just think it's hilarious that she has such a good sense of humor. She might be part redneck.
She may have a little redneck in her. Kathy, we failed to mention the blessing that you and I be stodith upon our patron subscribers by starting up the half of the episodes again. Yes, we did. Didn't we?
I'm very, you don't know how proud of us. I am. Yes, we are normally so lazy. That's true.
In that lazy, just, you know, I don't think lazy. Come on, come on, we're lazy assholes. I don't think laziness. Well, let's not get into the definition of lazy, which I actually believe doesn't exist anymore.
I think it's fear that laziness. You're not lazy. You're afraid to do things. You're afraid to succeed.
So you procrastinate doing things and you don't get things done. I think that's a better term than lazy. So, but I am excited that we did a hat. And for those that have never been a Patreon supporter, Kathy and I do kind of a casual kind of dumb down show of perverted podcast.
We used to do it like once a month and we used to do it driving in the car before the pandemic, which I do miss. But for right now, we just do a casual show and then we only post it online for our Patreon supporters. So it's kind of like a little special thing. We don't call it a perk and it's not in a tier as a perk or a benefit because then you'll get taxed on your donation.
So, so, but we just do it. So, but it was exciting. I was very exciting. There were some good topics that we talked about.
And, and I just feel proud of us that we did that for our glorious patrons. The show is free across the world to everyone. Nobody is obligated to pay ever for perverted podcast. But if you do support us a little bit on Patreon, then you do get some of these extra shows right now.
I think there's about 10 or 12 of those up there. Secret shows. Secret shows that badly ties people. Look at them.
Look at them all run. No, no, they're not. That guy's a dick. But I'm not a dick because I told you he's a dick.
You should want my dick. That's how it works. I see. OK.
Now, this is going to be a little weird, but not too weird. And I haven't even really told you what this is about. So Kathy's coming into this cold, but it's it was in regards to some things that I've read online. And then, of course, it triggered a lot of feelings about things I have experienced because I have been on literally both side of the male posturing.
I don't even what you would call it phenomenon. The male posturing phenomenon that occurs all over the world. 24 hours a day, seven days a week without fail, doesn't even take time off for holidays. Males will talk shit about other males any way they can to posture themselves better socially or in regards to getting females.
So I read a post where somebody who I would assume either switches or bottoms or stuff like that was taking great offense, which I don't know how many times they heard this, maybe twice, but they made it as if they hear it all the time. To where when supposed alphas refer to other men as boys, that it's a profound offense that you're calling them immature and you're trying to put them down so you can show your alphaness and, you know, you're the tough guy. And it's like the kicking sand in the nerd at the beach kind of thing. And which is a thing there.
Absolutely. And I have been on the receiving end of that kind of bullying and and looking down your nose and, you know, I'm a big guy and you're a little bitch kind of thing. I've experienced that when I was younger and it is a shitty feeling when an insecure alpha quote unquote alpha male feels that they have to posture themselves by belittling your manhood and that you're not really tough because you, you know, you weren't in the military or you don't work on cars or you don't wait lift or, you know, you can't juggle, you know, fucking nuclear weapons or whatever, you know, whatever makes you feel that you're tougher and more badass than me. They will kind of put you down.
And that's obviously to the people that aren't super strong or alpha or whatever. It can it can hurt. It can feel shitty. And so then the non quote unquote alphas will band together and then create, you know, social media things to attack the supposed alpha males that are supposedly kicking sand in their face.
And it really got me going on to the thoughts. Well, what about all the posturing that the non-alpha's do to fuck up the alphas, which I think is more. That part I don't understand. It's more common because there's not as many alphas, like people that are actually dominant and take control and, and, you know, the.
So the way I'll describe it is what I've talked about on the show that I've experienced in the negative. I'm going to call myself, let's call me for better or for worse, when I am going after partners, when I am going after females and I am the ethical predator and I am trying to attract females and I am trying to convince females that they should play with me. I don't have a problem talking to women. I am not afraid to talk to women.
I am not afraid to go up to them and have a conversation. I am not afraid of being rejected by women. I accept the rejection from women and I'll go on and I'll start talking to other women and then I'll even be friends with some of the women that have rejected me. So I don't have any problem being an alpha male and for me, an alpha male is somebody who takes control, like a dominant, not in a douchey way.
It doesn't, you know, we're still being respectful of people's boundaries or whatever, but I'm a fucking alpha. When I want something, I'm going to go and fucking get it. And the men who represent the majority, which I have also been, that guy has responded by when they're friends with women and I used to hear it all the time, they're threshold, they'll talk just as much shit about you to try to posture themselves that you're somehow an evil, horrible person and you're a predator and you don't really care about them. And so it's kind of like everyone's doing it.
Does that make sense? I'm sorry, but not really, because I don't really know what you're, what you're trying to say. You're, you do the same thing that you're saying other people do. Yes.
I'm saying every fucking man. I don't know what I was going to ask you is do women do this kind of stuff because it's rampant. All men posture. And that means that guy's a dick.
I'm not a dick. I told you he's a dick, so therefore you should want my dick. That's how it works. That is the basic nature of territory and the basic nature, whether it's right or wrong.
It is rampant. It is daily and it is often. Yeah, I really, it's hard for me to comment on that because frankly, I think everybody does that when you have two people who are both going after the same person, they're depending on how aggressive they are. They're going to do pretty much anything they can to make themselves look better.
Right. Right. So I and women are it can be caddy and mean and I think in the same way they might do it in different ways. They might have some things that are more in keeping with the way a woman might do things, but in general, I think that that's a human trait.
From what I'm hearing you say is that it is much more rampant with men when it comes to a sexual conquest. I think so. I mean, I think you literally said that it's rampant. It happens all the time.
I hear it constantly. That's why I don't hang out with guys. I just don't I don't want to hear it. I don't care because I used to be that I used to be the guy that had friends that were girls that were dating the guys that were alpha, you know, and I would, you know, subtly try to remind them that I'm more sensitive and, you know, that person's just going to shit on you and they're not going to care about your feelings.
Like I will. They're not going to write your cute little poems, you know, and I was that I was exactly the group of guys that at Threshold talked all that shit and the women would tell me all about it. And other guys would tell me about it. Oh my God.
These guys just sit and just talk shit about you that you're fucking rapist and a predator and all the shit because they're posturing themselves because they don't have the balls to get up and talk to women. And so they have to somehow bring everyone below them. So they either end whatever it can, you know, I mean, I'm not saying it's not good. If you see a negative behavior in someone that if you care about a friend, that you inform the friend of that negative behavior, we're not talking about that.
We're talking the general over in Bellish posturing that I guess all people do. I mean, I don't I hang out with a lot of women. I hang out mostly with women, but I don't hear as much of the posturing, but you're saying that everyone, you absolutely wouldn't because if you're posturing, no, if one woman is posturing to another, um, to a partner that they want, you're not going to be involved in that conversation. Right.
You have to make sense. Right. If you if they're two women who want the same guy and they have the ear of that guy, each one is going to whisper in that guy's ear things that make themselves look better, but you would not be privy to that conversation. So you wouldn't know what's happening.
And I think that if you were, you would be just as disgusted and wouldn't want to hang out with women now because that's, I just don't see it as a trait that belongs solely to men at all. Um, it's a level of deceit and deception maybe. And, um, and, uh, it's a strange kind of manipulation that if you're engaging in that, it's a manipulation that I'm not happy with. I don't care if you're a woman or a man.
Um, I don't like it. I've never seen it be something that is, um, the purview of one sex only. Well, I think that's great. And that's what I wanted to ask is I literally don't have nearly as much experience.
I've seen catty bitches, but just not nearly as much as I see catty man on both ends. Right. So I think that's actually good. I mean, that's, that's great for me to know, which then leads me to, I like who I am better now, even though I'm, I learned how to talk to women and I don't have a problem getting dates, uh, obviously when I'm not in this situation, um, and I have more confidence because of that, but I like the fact that I don't have to be that catty anymore, because I'm more interested in proving that I am a better person by trying to be a better person.
And I don't care what people call me. And that's what I was trying to explain to some of the, the people that seem but heard about that, the alpha of whatever's were, we're putting them down that I'm like, who cares? Let them call me boy. Call me, tell me whatever the fuck I don't care.
Call me girl. Call me dog. Call me catfish. I don't really care because my job is to be the best boogie that I can be.
And if I'm the best boogie, then there's a much greater chance that no matter what some insecure posturing butthead calls me that the people that I want to see the real me are going to be able to judge me based on my actions and not what somebody else calls me. Cause I don't really want to be with somebody that is so easily swayed that you could just say one condescending remark about me and then they'll judge me. I don't want to be with someone that's that shallow. Yes.
Yes, no. It seems to me like you're in touch with a whole other part of humanity that I've never been part of. And I'm not surprised because I tend to be very naive in social settings. I know that's a weird word to use to describe me, but when it comes to people manipulating me, I tend to be the last person to see it.
Yeah, I watch. I am a two fault people, watcher and interpreter and listen to conversations and like literally just wish I was invisible so I could just sit and hear what people are saying in their more authentic settings where they're not trying to impress me or whatever. I just want to hear who are you really? And I really, really enjoy that.
And this leads to another topic that maybe we'll do on another show about the word grooming because this is part of that that everything is grooming and manipulation. This isn't just men grooming young women to have sex with them. Everyone grooms. Everyone manipulates.
We're groomed from the time we're five year by the time you're five, six, seven years old. You know who you're supposed to vote for. You don't even know what politics are. You know what God you're supposed to be afraid of.
You know who you're supposed to vote for. You know what products you're supposed to buy. Everyone is grooming is a constant in every aspect of how we live our lives. We are groomed to think and buy and act.
It's more than that. You're groomed. Your personality, your, your, the way you behave and the type of person you are gets groomed from a very, very early age. So it's really funny.
I just heard that we're groomed in therapy today. Well, yeah, I mean, a lot of people are like, you know, and of course, because, you know, I've dated a lot of younger women and woman. A lot. Many women.
I date women. I date many good women. I am from Russia. I date woman.
I am Russian. I love that fucking language. It's such a language. I love that fucking language.
It's like, it's like a German. You could just, it's very needy language. You could just wrap your mouth around German. It's German.
And once again, oh, by the way, I said into Google Translate, but the plane is fixed, look. And it said back, come here my fuck toy. So we got a good lesson. I forget who that was.
I have to listen and remind me. We haven't talked to you in a long time. But yeah, German is is much more authoritarian. And Russian just seems more bassy.
Don't we shouldn't we every time we do this. We just make I make an ass out of myself. Every show we make an ass out of our stuff. Just like languages, but I suck at them.
Is that OK to say that I can be a fan of languages and just because I love tones and sounds and how words are formed and how people's mouths are able to just put out just completely different tones than I'm capable of. I just I've always found that fascinating. I wish I could speak 20 languages. But I can't I just I can't phrase to know at least what deep to cleanse it.
Was it deep to cleanse fixed or fixed up his fuck toy? That's not the only one we remember for sure. One day one day I'm going to find me a German girl that doesn't know. I know that and I'll go look it up and practice it again.
And we'll see. Do I get five fingers across the face or do I get to fuck a German check? Oh, I hear a song coming on. The very sexy song.
I thought you know we should just end the goddamn show. Yeah, that's the end of the show. Three, two, eight. Three, two, eight.
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So it's easier. Give away the stuff. That's what that's called. That's what we call them.
Yeah, because that's going to rope them in. They're just going to be like I did have to buy food for my family. But fuck it, dude. I got to hear that song.
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Feed lack. You know, I lack of feels. I love languages. I can't even fucking speak my own.
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