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Good morning. Good evening to everyone. You're listening to the old talk podcast. Full house today.
Ross is here. You probably heard him. Good morning. How's it going?
Fair genes. Two days. Two thousand dollars a month. Each.
Daniel the lucky boys here today. Morning. I'm going to get you back from the trip. My handles are still brave.
You need to carry my honor. We're going to get you today. Matthew Joyce is joining us. We're going to talk everything about hot runs.
Oh, I'm just excited. You're there. Hang it a little week. Yes.
I'm going to get you back. Not really. I'm just telling you. I gotta be a pry.
I'm going to be a pry. I'm going to be a pry. I'm going to be a pry. So I'm going to be a pry.
I can be a pry. I'm going to start because I'm excited. I, as a former little kid. I love that.
That was old 28. 32 hot runs the old four. That was the old four. That was what everyone used to do to them.
I used to get up to a river. So, for some reason. Hot rock capital. So, Sunday morning's that will leave love for a bit.
And it was hot rock central and cruise down as a flower or six-year-old. They're all these old blokes who just would cruise around. And nothing back then on the beginning was fiberglass. I think everything was steel.
It's always been the dream to build up with my voice. Do you look at these things? You see super cool. You look at the guys in the States now, they're chopping roofs off stuff.
I love it. The craze I see is the rap rods. Yeah, I've actually got it. I mean, 90s.
Yeah, I've got a state a couple of times. There is some wild wild rock. There's everything from light models, supercar engines. Really?
Yeah, there's big, big, big diesel engines. And they're like the, I don't mind if they're the mantle of the wheel. So he's building the hot rock now like, you know, in the 2018. 19, what do we do?
19, there we go. Is it like very different to say, 10, 15 years ago, we used to call the shop up and go. Very much so. Certainly you keep those building my garage.
Well, probably. I got my first, so I was a 32 roast. Oh, mid 90s? Yep.
Fireglass is still, still okay. I'll try and go, period. So I don't go to modify, try and get original shazis. So you can you?
I run flight motors, so original, flatty, bay eights and stuff on it. Can you re-buy the steel stuff? Well, you've got to like go and find the right now. Exactly what you're talking about.
So in the 90s, everything was swap meets and rummaging and trading post back then, and I'm going to go for the paper and stuff. Wednesday morning. Yeah, exactly. He has a new trade.
What, true, true, true, true, true, no idea. Four, four mates waiting outside of four different news agencies for the trading post. And I don't know if we, no, no, no, there was a service station. No, there was a service station in Western Sydney that for some reason was like an early drop off like there.
It was last week's. And there was always a whole bunch of guys that you must have been in the delivery drive and said, you're going to have a training post. You're going to have a training post. That is where, yeah, you just go on your fire and then you go, this is a business.
It tells you how many people have got it. You just have to go and put it through there. Oh, a training post. I've got a training post.
I probably used to love collecting it too. No. Yeah, but I used to pick up a year old training post to bring up a bear cupboard. The guy goes, mate, we saw that a year ago.
They're running the ad. He goes, oh, shit. I'm going to run it. So, yeah, exactly.
So now everything's re-buy. Everything. So, you've got to run two barrels. So, if you run a multiple carb, you're going to buy carbies and re-goat them and linch them and do everything else.
And then you've got to bring it. You can buy ones now with a feeling jacket, throw a body in them so they look like the old carbie. You've got a feeling jacket inside them. So, yeah.
This is my kind of, the world. It's like just, and of course, the world's shrunk with internet. That's what I was going to say. You're just going to really like getting out of all our ass.
What I meant two days, what the airfield for two days, trying to find this really rare place in the 1970s. And it's a different feeling. Oh my God, I spent a day walking around. I found that part that I needed.
And you got the car and you drove it. It was like, got mining like you were standing there. And now you just go, I'm like, I'll get somebody walking in my garage. And I'll see something hanging in my wall.
Do you want to sell that? Yeah, mate, I walked. And you want to rock into my garage? Yeah, no.
I used to go to a shop meeting with my early 90s. I didn't really buy any cars. Yeah, that was like, um, I was there. You offered me five.
You know what? You met with really interesting people there as well. There was always a story to tell. And there was a really nice car.
These guys didn't come with their daily driver or something. They came with their pop cars. They were like, you know, they were like, they were like, what do you think? Come over to the bumper for my baby.
No, no, no, no. He was cheap. And he said it was rich. He made me pay the world off the front of the car.
But the whole thing was that, at the time I didn't have the money for a toy car. You know, for a weekend or a night. I worked my car. So I used to go to these things.
So I bought a set of Mazda R100 hubcaps. What? What? Set a four.
Set a four. They were unbacked and a guy that basically had four holder of cars and parts had done because, you know, he got them all somewhere else. You don't want them to be like the regular kick. The regular kick shot.
Yeah, they were like down the air. Did you click text on the whole bus? No. But the thing was, I wanted to buy down 100.
Right? I wanted to be caused by the originality of cars. You know, even if you modify the running gear, I always liked the 40 year interior and everything for the look original. But the thing was, especially in the 90s, all these cars that banked, I was like, they were all running wheels and this, you know, a pub cap.
So I bought them. And they were like, what's the most? How much paper? How much paper?
You could go now 100. It started 50 bucks. No, no, no. I'll do another one.
They've got 700 bucks each. H and as a set. Hell yeah, but you know what? 72.
I probably said you're a big idiot. But the thing is, no. And then not only after that, I bought a measure, I would have a grill. Right?
He's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it.
He's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it.
Yeah, but he's back there. I'm honest. Yeah. My brother's got a door.
No, he's got a boot. I was in a lay doing there. She used to be an owner. So I got very in there.
The thing was, I've got a lot of them. My brother and them bought a measure of 1,000 years. And it was pretty much from the door's forehead. The front door's floor was in R100.
Yeah, she was flooring. They didn't do it later. So, he ended up with the grill. One of the grills I bought.
There is no reproduction R100 grill. No, no, no. You're sitting a gut, man. Or how can you do that?
The last time I saw a really good, I've got to be able to grow on eBay or on Facebook and stuffs like 4 great. You just can't get one, there's no real good part. Come here, you're going to go past. Where's what makes you very fast and something?
It's not your three. It's what makes you think, right? Even though we have the internet. It still happens?
It's a shrunk. What's the, you should get a really good argument from the ones you sort of, you're really sorry when I go to eBay. I mean, I can't see them. It's a good suit at home and just, it's just what made more so the guys go and show the cars a little bit.
Yeah, social we are. Okay, yeah. Grilled two bikes go down. Well, Bell references is two aces, I saw a social you got the camping and the barbecue and the golf course.
I saw that. Yeah, yeah. Used to be the biggest in the Southern Hemisphere. It was about a rock like a hot rod show, is that right?
What's the purely part? It's just part, say. And used to be so massive that they'd segregate it so you have your motorcycle section and your motorcycle section. Okay.
And you find that the whole hot rod seat is getting smaller or bigger. There you go. Yeah, really. And who's, and from what you were saying from a Euro kid that's probably more youthful than younger?
Yeah, okay. Because it's more accessible, once upon a time it used to be the son of a hot rod I had a hot rod because his dad had all the bits and the nails are accessible. And you know, so if money's not cheap now, like, drive. Now you're going by a 32, 50 grand running registered.
So kids can get that now and just go to the bank and money's so easy now you can get on. Oh, it's good. Where's the van you had a hot rod? Like, is that 50 grand or by your clean?
Yeah, you can get on any drive now and buy it and get it decent. That's good for 50 yards. But how about if you ever really make your mouse one to get up to 100? Yeah, like, anyway.
It's based on the age of the power. So it's okay. Yeah, engine is to be a registered water type of stuff. Drive lines.
What do you do? And when you get it registered, is it based on the chassis you're using? Is it? So you start moving into small blocks, modified chassis, plastic bodies, it's all S&P engineered.
Yeah. Or it's all trying to stick to Henry, roll them off the production lines. Looking for original chassis and water flatheads. Obviously a run torque tubes, which is not an open drive shaft.
It's all sold from the diff to the gearbox. It's just got a union side. It's all trying. Brakes from the 30s are going to go much faster.
All that's up. So any of you, we're currently on it or? I've got a 50-minute switch to 32 rows on the project, which was started off as a general in putting 32s from our old forwards from our turn. Yeah.
He was our pass cover. I picked up a 32 door sit-in, steel, rod hand-drop, and part of all the, there we are, just get the chassis, part of everything else out there. And put a plastic body on it. So I think he does me seven grand in my seat now, which is really good.
Okay. And it's a big difference. You get the plastic bodies and the steel body. Yeah, you get the people going now.
Plastic, fantastic, and all that type of stuff. The brothel, mate, grandi, you want to pay 20 grand for a steel 32-boy? Grand spanker. Really?
Who's that? Brothel bodies in the United States as well? Yeah. I'm going to build a hole on it.
It's all in the kids. It's all in the kids. It's all in the instructors. I'll build it.
I can't. I'm going to start building it. I'm going to start building it. You just dig a box.
So I'll be cutting it. I'll be cutting it. By the new shows, by the front end, by the rear end. It's built out of the garage.
Right. What's it like to do the toilet? What was he doing? What was he doing?
He made a fake. He made a fake. Actually, no, honey-bripper was a real one. I was talking about it.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm over the top. Yeah.
You made a self. It's the process. So when you build your engineer, you've got to go on. When you build your shows, you've got to go on and get the engineer.
Look at it. Yeah. So it's all that to get your relationship with your engineer. I'm doing an office.
I think it's a break test on a modified car. Now you've got to go to some dude who takes it to some remote airstrip. And does a break test on it? Really?
Yeah. He's just a break beat on there. Do you find that you build a tool that's supposed to be? Do you find that they're just real cruisers?
They're not there, okay? Three-speed. Sticky clutches. Side-drawing brakes.
They're all around. Yeah. So what's a good one based on? Engine that looks the handling all around?
Well, 30 times, it's supposed to be the, like, kind of. So it's the year that the agent in... Yeah, because you get things like real hot rods don't have fenders, so there's only a certain group of early forwards or shivers that you can run. Look, good, we know.
Once you get the 35, pull fenders off and they don't look any good anymore. Yeah. Yeah. The fenders off?
The fenders off? The 32's are true. They're all the fenders off. Yeah, they pull the fenders off that.
Did they come with fenders off that? Yeah. They're all... They're all...
They're pointing a clock. They're fine. Can you run that? That's right.
I'm going to start a stock of fenders. Yeah, okay. The velour. Supposed it.
And the tea buckets. I like those. The ones with... Oh, that's a good one.
I see engines here. It's like a piece of art. Wherever's at the right? Yeah, there's no roof on those.
Yeah. I don't have the back seats. Yeah. So it's why the bucket holds the water.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe not. A lot of the... It's good that probably to a point where you've got a lot more youth coming in that want this stuff.
Right? So I mean, I like all the reprosuff because, but like you said, you got a source and you want more chassis and still bodies in that. Which is good because there's always always here market for that. And someone else will come along with that one originality.
But the good thing with all the reprosuff and it's almost like a flat pack. It's almost like getting a key hot rod. So it keeps that alive. The cars aren't going to disappear.
And also I do from you just talking about Ganes and Kricka on the test and tune. If you want to say that it does 11 seconds, you're not using original stuff. No. You want to reach a chassis, you want to hold our adjustment.
And you literally put a flat pack for whatever you need. You don't get it. I said a lot of, especially the sides, you can pretty much go and get plug and play conversions and run into the Ford or LS motors. And then what they do is they take all the injection off and it's just running manifold and carby.
And everything else is plug and play all the electronics and stuff like that. They're like dropping your popcorn and off you go, you're running 10 to 11s. But it's not as close to our drawers around us. It was a electric one.
It was a electric one. No. Test the hot rod. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not sure. I would've for sure. Someone's done an electric car.
Because there's a guy in the UK that is taking a risk. Do you guys see that? Yeah. It's doing Volkswagen buses and Volkswagen meals.
Do you watch the JLNO show where he was doing a whole electric episode? No. Anyway, it was a bit of a joke but there was a grandma and a Tesla and he rocked up in his Shelby cover-up regional, 427 smashing thing and made the talk and acceleration out of the electric car. He was still looking for second gear, he was gone.
It's unbelievable. So there's no noise. That's the big one. The hot rod scene.
It's the noise. I think I was going to ask you, are there caps? Is there a Ford versus Chevy or does everyone do the same boat? No, although it makes a match just like anything.
Like, I took 40 teams, it's like any of them. Some people prefer other stuff and they're caught rigid in that other people really don't care as long as it's. Have you seen weed? I've seen other red, orange or yellow hot rods.
Yellow stretched the lead too. We were speaking earlier, there was a actually wiring of 34 rows. It would be called a race day rod. It looks like a pain from Henry, but it's all got a lot of road tricks inside it and a good friend of mine started.
He's painted it in rabbit holes. I'm sorry, Rooster's colors. In Rooster's colors. Fuck it.
I said you're driving Bondi. As I said, horses for horses for horses. I'm not telling you that. I'm not fucking paying back.
No. They're making you. They must do the next one. No, no, no.
That's just, you know you're making silly. Russell did the chopper. The rabbit hole. Yeah.
And you could never sell it. I think we're options only. I had to break it in the middle of the market. There's nothing back.
I got to just... I'll be surprised. He said, chopper. Oh, no.
Fuck. Oh. Oh. Don't go back to the...
He's the peak, right? Don't go back to what you said with the... ...J. Leno and the Tesla.
No. He's the peak. Kids don't... You're not going to have posters of Teslas on your wall.
So I want a Tesla when I grow up. Oh, I'm not too sure about that. No. No, no, no.
You may walk on to the rear. Get inside. Now faster. Okay.
Well, I'll tell you now, that Tesla is not going to be worth as much as the show be. But the kids don't... The show's not on purpose. What's it's going to do?
Yeah, it's not as a daily drive. You don't go down the street and go up the street and go up the street. The mile an hour across the finish line for the Tesla was not reflective of the time that it ran. The mile an hour should have been a slow car.
It should have been a slow car. It was all the long. They came. It just got off the line.
It just maintains it. It was the first people. It went one. It stopped going through the track.
Wasn't as high as the O.G.S.V. It gets to the... It got to the... ...it was a little bit quicker.
It got to the... ...it was a slow... ...it was a little bit bigger. You saw Chris...
Did the... ...to half track. And then it pretty much... It couldn't do all the throw-for-runs.
Yeah, it was there. It went 121 mile an hour. And then it scored on four. No, 121 mile an hour should not be running at 10.
121 mile an hour was more like a... 11. 11.6. Yeah, but that's how our brains work.
That's what I used to do. But you can't get into going quick. I just can't do that. It actually goes slower with every run because the batteries all get up.
And actually, yeah, batteries after the four feet front. Oh, really poor. You're still running out of nowhere. No, it's not.
No, if you go to the States, man, you want to go to the Al- ...out of the South. So about the pinup goes out of Ballarat? No. You can run around and do it.
It's all run around. So last week, actually, it rose. It rose, wasn't? It rose, yeah.
That was big. A lot of people build for that. It was an es-check. It was an es-check.
I thought you were going around that far. You get to the stage where it all gets a bit too much. So what about your lead to the clubs and the politics? What about the 40s and 50s cars that...
...pick up trucks really big? Yeah. What was the... ...gently with the Ford?
Yeah, it was if... ...one hundred and fifty years. Young boy, no, he's only 30 years because of the 71F truck. Yeah, 100%.
Oh, yeah, they're only good. You're a hot rod. And the use of the process is a little bit. Not that they're getting up there.
They're used to the check. There's a guy out of the car, which is Sydney, that does the... ...a lot of the less conversions into it. You know, all the cars.
And they're doing a... ...like a... ...at the moment. It's a firefight.
Anything you watch the shows and cars, it's all driven from there. Yeah. You can guess, Mikey, doing some crazy... ...and then you can start over with all the different...
...like it's all reflexes. Yeah, and they... Yeah, so he went to the States and sourced a really good show. That had the potato go on, but solid.
And they come back here and they just... ...all they've done is just... ...rub it back a bit and clean it. Yeah.
So folks, the thing looks to me, they're putting... ...they're pretty much dropping my hatches, right? You into it. LSI or...
...or... ...I don't want to... ...I'll have to find that. It's a ten-foot-class, mate.
Is it like he wasn't picking on anyone, or whatever? I don't know. He's probably called back this way. Sorry, they're trying to fight you.
I'm always at the injury. No, I'm not going to get to that. But is that what your father said? He said, I thought you were a fox.
Ah... Is there a chassis that you shouldn't build a hot rod out of? Like, it's not a bro, you know, I'll come here on something like that. You're on.
It was like... How's it going to bring your bags to the... Yeah, I've got 100 bags. I wrote a read.
Still, it was coming out of coins, I'm putting, like, 31 A model bodies on, ...pilox, edges. No, no, no. Because of the old one, it was all done. Like, two.
We'll drive the old early, late A-E, Pylaxis, ...by the first generation. Yeah, they're both... ...for the bank. Everything's done.
It's all modern, and they just... ...you won't be able to... from the outside, ...well, can you two? You've got to tell them that.
You've got to tell them that. You've got to tell them that. Yes, everything. ...it's going to be a little tough.
Everybody, I need to... No, you're not. I like the old car, but I like modern stuff. I'd like to have a...
...a power steering. Is that what you want? Yes. Econitiony?
You haven't said it. It's a... ...convertible car. No, but I can love the desperation.
All that kind of stuff. Can I go by... ...I can't get... ...I can't get...
...I can't get... ...probably have to get... ...you know, yourself, all the shows now, ...you get the youngsters just pulling the old shows, ...rolling it out, lifting the body up on the hoist, ...and then it comes around you, ...and it shows you... ...it's all independent.
It's really well. We just do the body off and... ...we do it. They shop like that.
There's a lot of shop like this right there. The longest day is... ...I'll get you second. You've only got a trip next to the WIPE.
It's true. No, they've got opposite terms. That's the top. I think the good shops that I know are in Australia are flying out.
So you're going to be waiting. I'm going to make the one in a 57 pick up truck in Melbourne at a moment. So you're day bagged. I like the look of that one in the shop.
I know they're tripped down for the day. I think they just bought a Commodore and just dump a whole run. You've got everything out from me. And if you want to maintain that...
These were... He was up from Melbourne. He was into it for 75. He was probably looking at the other side of 100.
And he's not paying it. He's doing the whole week. For 100 green. Let's stay because you're 100 and 40 green.
That's a freaking cool car. You're still a cool car. You're getting a bit back. You're getting a bit back.
You buy two wheels. You're expecting to make it back. When you buy it, when you do something to it, you really don't. I don't.
I'm in the best of what you're seeing. I'm in trouble for that. I'm in trouble for that. You've got to stop the seat before.
But you know, when you get money back, I'm going to take a half of a bag. If you enjoy it, the kids. That's always no good argument. Because I do most of the stuff myself.
I'll build a 30-month pick-up truck at any time. I'll get it in the end. And then he runs out of 20. And he runs out.
You can get your labor costs back as you give. I had it before. You put a price on. Yeah.
But how much fun? That's what I'm saying. You had fun making money. You had fun building it.
You had fun driving it. And I also... I'm watching nothing like money on it. But they're trying to put your labor costs on it.
It's not because you have some fun. An experience. It's a story before you drive it. I mean, not as far as you make money.
And again, whether you're building hot rods or whether you're playing golf or... Doing 11-8 is the correct. Yeah. A little wide.
I got a little bit of a diskeeping. Recurring a podcast. It's good. Not meant to make you money.
So, yeah. I can understand. And it's a social aspect as well. It's like it's actually your son.
You get a very popular one together. And it gives you driving and a passion for things. What's your daddy? What do you drive it for?
I just jump back on it. I started in my soul. In my back on my soul. In my back on my nose.
In my back on my soul. In my back on my nose. It's a 48-unit. 9-4-8.
New 48. I had a new one. I just thought you had to do that. So, I just kicked that in.
Awesome. How big is the angel of it? It's a little bit tight. It looks tight.
How big is that? You're probably about half an hour. Yeah, it's probably about half an hour. I'm probably about half an hour.
They're out there. They're out there. You can probably beat the floor. I like to beat the floor.
But as you're talking about, I'm getting those guys myself. They're all playing play. It's getting very sick of guys watching. It's attractive.
It's a bit of a bit of a bit of a change in there. When did you just start getting into hot rods? I bought a 7-tonne of what a 50-8. Oh, absolutely.
I'm going to go to stuff back in the middle. I'm going to take the two car these. I've got to keep up and say that to me. I was on my first house when I was in the zoo bullet.
Because me on the Amazon was 200 bucks when I was four-tonne. We'd rega. They got a call following those. It was a lot of precursor to a gemite.
Oh, okay. Need to find a resubvention thing. Yeah. They got a call following.
Yeah. See that? I could do that. Because I would show you no money.
Yeah, whatever was the problem. I think I was four-day. We grew up in Utah. So everything was on the street.
What did we do? That's awesome. I think I built my first main room. My mom is down in the bedroom pool and then full cylinder.
He's picking up, I'm still remembering. He's picking up. He's picking up. There's a kid sitting there there and we want to bring Sayo's, we've chosen Tomano on it, and you still remember getting a thumbprint on the craft.
You're doing a good job of changing. But, you know what, I'm trying to get to these days again. They're not going to happen. The basic type of make it do is build Lego.
It's not the one on YouTube build Lego. Like I think the generation's coming through. I don't know, I can be completely wrong. They don't any, though.
I saw it. We wouldn't do it. We would tear stuff apart. We would take stuff, we would tear stuff apart.
Like a 10 year old watching YouTube, watching someone play a game. Why don't you just play a game yourself? I'm a kid. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want this game.
I want this game. I want that. No, no, the older one's more, he likes watching stuff, where he's getting, but he doesn't want to get his hands. The little one on the flip side sees it.
And then he's got, he's got, well, I've got a toolbox. He carries his wife, he's got tools in it, spanners this that the other, he finds a screw somewhere. He finds the screw, and nothing matches, but they're all in his toolbox. And he'll sit there and he'll try and put them together and he'll tell you, that's good, that's good, that's good.
At least his next year's gonna be millionaire. By the time he's 22. Wait, wait, when I was a kid, when I was 12th, everyone was in their rooms building either remote control cars or from scratch. Now, you got it on to the hobby store together.
You know what, I think I want to build, I just want to build one of my son's last building. Let's skip, let's skip something before I choose it. Hobby store, make you got anything in kids, oh, you got all of them in. They're not really that popular.
Okay, when you buy an RC card these days, you just choose one which everyone's put a big barrier on it you never know all those petrol and I want to build it now a little bit like I agree it was their own fault because they lost contact with their customers. You should have Uncle Pete's toys and build it now. That's what I was. You used to get in there you could get all the money you had and throw out a nine bucks and save up the last five years and you got to put it together.