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Is this one of your anti-man days? It is my an anti-man day. I am very Very angry at men today. Okay.
I work in a place with 25 men and they're all whining complaining And always saying that it's my fault for everything I gotta do everything for their stupid cells and many stupid faces. Did you know that? Yes, yes, they do have stupid faces much more stupid than women's faces, right? Is that stupid faces when you like call them on their bullshit and they give you that no Every single face and man makes us stupid and they're just stupid men who can't do anything from this can't open a thing of water for themselves Can't whatever cut the crust off my bread exactly Yeah, I I have never heard a woman make that request like if you make a woman a sandwich I have never in my life heard a woman say can you cut the crusts off my bread?
If that's a man thing because women are not wasteful and they're practical and they know perfectly well You don't cut crusts off of sandwiches you eat your food. There are people starving in this world. This is gonna be good You're in the mood that I approve of today Kathy Oh, well, I'm so glad that odd that you approve of me mr. Man now I can go on with my day everything is good because bookie approves well bitch Just get ready to cut the crusts off my sandwich and let's do a show The following show is for mature audiences only listener discretion is advised and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself One two three four do you feel your sex life is quite lame?
Scared that your desires might be strange Come and join the kinky world of play Whoa fucking hello Hello and welcome to the perverted podcast the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and everything that is against men Mmm, you know what I'm recording. That's about all you can expect tonight. Let's come on. Let's do this already Jesus I am count boogie and this of course is uh, this is pro woman Kathy right now So is this the time where you're gonna go out and get yourself a woman?
Hey, let me tell you something. I don't know where all the leather dikes have gone You know they've all gone into ground apparently because you're not supposed to call yourself that now when you're transgender Well, that fuck I want an honest to goodness leather dyke In my life right now. Why is leather dyke bad? Well, I don't know this I hear this from the dykes.
All right, this is not me saying it This is the leather dykes sitting around Around the campfire around the dyke Lamenting lamenting the loss of the leather dykes going with a fucker all the leather dykes I used to go to a a retreat every year that was nothing but women that was it biological women Okay, like you're not allowed to say that anymore. You're not allowed to say my party is only with biological women That's fine. If you want have a party anyway, you want that's fine But I have a problem when you tell other people what they have to do and apparently this part this this event has now become completely You know padded so that nobody gets offended and it's no longer the same event and it has gone downhill and I lament the loss of that because I needed to go and get my power back with a group of naked women Right and I don't get that now and this is why you're getting why you're getting man-hating Kathy today I understand and you know what in the bigger picture feelings are important to get out as changes occur in culture and some of those changes we think are good and some of those changes we don't agree with but You know, it's okay to have the feelings and I'm not gonna try to take that from you because you literally really freaking head off So if there are any leather dikes left Kathy's going to put out leather dike kibble and near her vagina and ask you to take control of her because apparently that's what she Shumping up to my vagina. Yes, exactly.
I will need a trail of kibble to my vagina Little ducks will come calling. This is a great start to the show if you're new to perverted podcast. This is pretty much How we how we do think sometimes and we just keep it real and then we just this is what's coming out I've had a crazy week With just my mind and things going on and and I mean exciting because You know, I've talked a little bit about it and not talked about it And now I'm going to talk about it and I've talked to my boss About it because I was about to quit my thing that I've talked to perverted podcast listeners about because it got so overwhelming for me Um that I had no one to talk to about and I got no reaction and I was literally just alone in this whole process And I I freaked the fuck out and this last week has been really hard So for those of you that have heard in past shows I started a project where I kind of have to not be count boogie Because you know the people that own Uh the business uh are very conservative and so I had to become another person and it is entertainment Uh I am in fact currently in a state in the united states and uh on air uh daytime drive time dj I'm a radio guy now. I got back into radio through my uh through my old friend who does a lot of radio and he started a fledgling station And he said I can't really pay you but if we can build this station There's going to be a real job for you and then there's a lot of bigger things and plans You know in the future, but it's owned the station is owned by these really conservative people and they really don't like sex and things Like that so, you know, we said, hey, I'll come in and I'll just take on another name So, you know as far as my comedy and whatever just completely clean And uh not me and so because i'm doing it from here I have to write jokes every day because it's a character.
It's a complete farcical character, which is great I get to literally just pretend this character is, you know out every day, you know rounding up squirrels to start armies of dance troops to support the station Like just crazy, you know weird funny stuff and that's great But um, I didn't get I wasn't getting any reaction because I'm here and because I can't be out About who I am. I can't go and interact. I don't get to deal with you know, it's you know when you work in radio It's like a community thing Kind of like perverted podcast Except you're actually in that city and you go and you work the thing and you go to club events and concerts and you schmooze and you know You know you go out and and a lot of that's a lot of fun and I'm real good at it But I don't get any of that so I'm doing all this work And writing jokes every day for those of you that watch like late night television Uh or anything like that like they do that opening monologue on the tonight show with you know, it was you know with jimmy Fallon or it was you know jonnie karston jaylin all those guys Letterman and they have a team of writers a team kathy, you know that there's there's literally like 15 writers Just to make that five minutes of comedy Because you have to do it every day and if and if you don't have funny Or you don't have material that day the show still is going on So I was completely by myself and you know, I was spending literally hours gathy I was spending fucking hours studying the state because I you know you got to kind of pretend like you live there So I have to study every fucking animal every fish everything that's local today because if I say things that aren't Local then I look like an idiot and they're like I had a guy doesn't even notice city So i'm spending like hours and hours and hours studying this stuff and and still doing perverted podcast and all the editing and whatever But I just I was doing good for a few weeks and then I hit a bad depression where you're not really feeling funny, you know There's no funny. I want to die.
I like like all suis the funny has left the bill The funny has left but it doesn't matter there was nobody and I wasn't getting enough information because you know My buddy is literally doing 17 jobs, you know to try to pull this off and then his other career that actually pays his rent Um, he has to do so I just wasn't kidding and I just lost my shit. Kathy I just lost it and I'm like I can't do this. I can't be a whole writing staff for this character Which is a lot of fun. I love it and I love doing radio But I just freaked out and I'm like I can't I was literally spending hours up till midnight, you know Just like I gotta write some sort of fucking stupid joke And uh, I freaked out and I quit and I put in like a two weeks notice and then my buddy was like dude We just started the ratings book and you know We did all this work to put you in there and you know You're on the station and you're in the things and whatever and then you know he calmed down and then he turned around because I just laid it out That I'm dying.
I'm literally losing my mind and it was so nice because I've known this guy since years and he said, you know what? I'm sorry you're suffering and I just freaked out, but you've been my friend for a long time. What can I do for you? How can I help you?
It's okay if you leave. Thank you for all the stuff you did. You put out some great material people loved you What can I do? And that was such a great thing to hear from somebody especially somebody that I really respect, you know And uh, and so we kind of work through it and he apologized for not giving me enough information and material to work on and he You know understood that I was really trapped so we're gonna try to Create some things that give me more material and then if I don't have funny then I have liners that I can read and you know Not not kill myself and he you know because I said I can't do this homeless I just can't do this homeless.
I mean it's hard to do even if I wasn't homeless But running all around trying to find places to record I can't do this and so he said hey, maybe we can uh we can do a buyout of harder With some apartment complexes or something in the city and get you an apartment And then you can go out to that state And then work the station and and it's okay. The the owners aren't gonna freak out because everyone likes you, you know And uh, it's good. Yeah, I mean, you know your buddy helped you out Yeah, well, I stood up for myself because I think that's important then that's really what I wanted to share with the listeners Is that you know, you have to know what your limits are You have to and it's not just your sex. It's not just you know your limits in your relationships It's all aspects of your life You have to be able to advocate for yourself and just say I know you're gonna be disappointed in me because I know he put in all this work and put me into the system and got everyone hyped up in the city and All these different radio people are like holy shit.
You got this guy. He's fucking crazy And uh, you know because it's a smaller town so they they're not experienced with you know what I used to do and uh And to just feel that that's gonna be a disappointment But even if it's gonna disappoint somebody you have to you have to just say this this isn't working Right, you have to be able to just stand up for yourself Unfortunately, maybe it works out and he knows that I'm like I'll do my best if you can give me more stuff and we can get me some sort of validation Um because it takes a while to build a fledgling station They just took over another station and put a whole new format in it and then you got to you got to work that up and it takes a few months Right when you melt down or go into a spiral Um, you have to be kind enough to yourself to admit that what you need is validation and support And it's a great thing when you reach out and there's a friend there Yeah, so I'm not used to that Yeah, well, I mean clearly he is or he wouldn't have wanted you for this project I clearly values you Yeah, and that feels I mean that feels real good too of course, you know the podcast audience validates us and people get letters from all over the world People telling us that you know the stuff we talk about, you know, really helps them and that's of course very validating But um it doesn't make enough to to pay bills, you know, so this is a chance to have a job and still be creative and funny and say stupid shit You know, it's just got to be clean. I thought I could do it. I thought I could write clean comedy, Kathy I am a pig I am a pig I am a dark dirty comic pig and to go from that to a whole new genre was I I didn't couldn't do it Well, that's not true.
You clearly did do it Well, I mean, but but when you're in a stressed situation Where the demands on you to do something that's so far out of you or that doesn't give you the outlets you need Um that requires extra self-care, right? It's it's stressful. It's stressful to be I mean, I could come up with all kinds of examples But everybody who's listening has probably been in this situation where there's somewhere that they're not quite comfortable And I'm starting I'm sorry every time that we talk about something like this. I bring it back to me in my therapy But I can't help it because there's something that that's very Validating about what I'm learning that you have to do self-care and that's a phrase that gets thrown around left and right self-care Self-care but only you know the type of self-care you need because only you know your stress points And to someone else listening they'd be thinking like what's the big fucking deal?
You've got her very podcast you can let your kink out there and then you go back to your other job and you do this Well, fuck you because that may be what you do That's not what I do and your your stress levels You know where you're where those points are and it is of the utmost importance that you find things that are meaningful to you That release those stress points no matter what they are and if it's In this case you found when you reached out to your friend and I'm starting I'm very much realizing that there are weird little things that I do throughout the day that that are like Plugging in your phone when it's not when it's still at 60% You don't have to wait for that phone to get depleted entirely before you plug it in and you need to recharge somehow And you're the only person who knows boogie as well as you do and you're the only person in a position to say this is what I need In order to keep going right this turned into a better topic than I thought All right, well mocking rights rotus and said my submissive has told me that I need to stimulate her mind more to get her turned on and Interested in play. I've been thinking of ways to do that, but I would like some of that infinite wisdom and ideas from boogie and Kathy Infinite wisdom is in short supply these days. I'm sorry, but we'll do our best I don't feel very infinite on this topic. It's an interesting request.
Do you want to go first? Wow? Yeah, I was okay Uh, this is a tough one for me because this is a very Short question and doesn't give us a lot of information right what I would of course we want to know Is she just sitting passively by letting her dominate do all the work or is her dominant being lazy and uh, you know Just reading a book with one hand while she waxed the slave with the adult with the others. We have no clue Knowing here, so I'm gonna I'm just gonna go for broke and say Uh, it's a two-way street that two of you have to do it sure you can't this being a dominant does not make you a magician You can't pull a rabbit out of the hat and go voila you're stimulated.
I can now read your mind I will intuit what it is that you wish for me to do. Yeah, you guys need to Communicate there is very there are very few people out there who are so intuitive and can read people so well That they know what turns them on and what gets them interested Um, you can get ideas from us all you want, but you're gonna have you're gonna have to do some of the I go in it You know what like an archaeologist like an excavation thing where you get in there and get a pit helmet and put it on and turn on little fan and uh Just go on a little biting expedition there and a little spelunking Spelunking is what it's all about. I love spelunking by the way You just love the word or you want to go crawl in tight caves because that's a fucking red for me That's not not every cave. I've been in many caves in there.
I always pick the big roomy ones Lacks around in that are like the like the forum or like like a football stadium. That's cave enough for me Last cave I was in was off route 66 somewhere near Arizona When it entrance was an elevator in the middle of a diner right there in the middle of a freaking diner So take the elevator down to the cave. It was crazy. All right.
Why not? What? Okay. This isn't helping mocking rice boogie Last cave I was in was you and her friend when I went to go visit her.
Oh, I gotta I gotta really uh I mean I had fingers and kitten and that was super hot, but I didn't actually go in with my tool So my my cave to make my man-hating self come out. Well, that's good But I I'm gonna rescue this advice because I have some thoughts on this Um because when you talk about stimulating the mind there and like you said we don't know what this situation was so what usually it is When someone says I need you to stimulate my mind before we play is kind of like foreplay Like people that maybe jump into play a little bit too quick and they start going wack wack wack wack And they haven't you know done the warm up. They haven't built up your tension. You have you're not you're not waiting for the play You know, there's some things, you know, like play foreplay is a lot different than sexual foreplay Sexual foreplay is like, you know oral and fingers and kissing and rubbing and things like that But play foreplay really can't have a lot to do with your mentality.
Are you talking about the play leading up to the play? I mean are you just as someone getting home and you guys are sitting on the couch and then you just grab your partner and start beating them You know, that doesn't stimulate the mind very much it may stimulate someone physically but it doesn't stimulate you mentally Are you talking about the play? Are you planning play scenes where you're like, oh, we're gonna try this thing and then we're gonna see and Maybe there's gonna be some teas and denial. I mean you understand what I'm saying So you're kind of able to like stimulate the mind by working your way up to it create some tension You know, so that way the bottom is like thinking ahead You know of like oh, this is gonna happen in a few days, you know, and oh I should wait for this and you know And then of course if you want to add role play into that where you're going to do like something that's at stake for the submissive Like I'm gonna do these things and I'm gonna ask you these questions and we're gonna have a role play like it's an interrogation or some sort of punishment or something Like that.
That's obviously very stimulating. We I've seen great scenes Uh that built tension like alt-anthene used to we've talked about on the show before where he would bring in like pictures of presidents And then like, you know test the bottom who's this president? You know just by showing up a picture and if they didn't know, you know, he would he would give him swats for not knowing I used to do things where I would point at the world map and I would start I'd say go find Botswana And then I'd start counting and however many seconds it took you to find Botswana that would be how many swats you would get You know, so there's a lot of different types of play that kind of build that tension That is a type of stimulating the mind But once again, we don't know exactly what they're talking about but from my point of view the more you talk about your play Before your play the more you kind of build up that anxiousness intention on it. Does that make sense?
It does that's that's a good way of investigating what your partner likes anticipation Wow heightening the senses in anticipation of what's gonna happen is a great way to do a scene You start the day before don't wait until you guys are in the same room to do it Right begin by telling them how they have to prep what they're in store for Text them, you know that day and say don't forget that I'm in charge tonight and I've given you instructions That I don't want to see you not following them and it puts you in a very excitable state It's that if you're submissive and you're dominant is telling you things like that the day before and the day of You can still go through your day But that sense that your dominant is there looking over your shoulder or in charge of what you're doing even though you're at work or Doing other things with family or friends It's like a little secret that only you have and it makes the play scene that evening or whenever you get to get together So much spisier and so much nice So I'm a big fan of stuff like that too It's a little confusing the question because the question was literally that she needs to stimulate her mind more to get her turned on more So we are talking about Sexual erotical arousal right yeah, I mean you could you know always have her you know read you know sections of of literature You know like here read me this page of war and peace stimulate your mind or read me to the dictionary There here do these uh biochem problems Stimulate your mind are you stimulating? Yeah, you've just hit on one of mine. I I get very very turned on when Um my dominant makes me perform in front of them because I get very very embarrassed and the performing can be anything As simple like stand there and take your clothes off. I just turn beat red and become incredibly aroused Um, especially when I'm told to say something or mean to recite something or oh wow that is It's like all my powers taken away from me and they're in charge and to be watched while that's happening is a huge turn on for me But you see this is something you would not know if you didn't ask me So there is quite a bit of spill-on-key that has to happen because you can be a very creative dominant But it's like throwing darts and with blindfolded You're just waiting to see what you're gonna hit and it's infinitely more fun if you involve your submissive and they can tell you Yeah, if you say my name which happens to be one of mine, uh, it's like you just plucked a string inside of me And I'm just like, yes, what would you like?
I'll do anything you want. I don't know why but that's just the way it is for me And so you would never know that if you did so it's a very bizarre thing to get turned on when someone you're in an intimate relationship with says your name Right, but it's the kind of the treasure that you wouldn't be able to find if you didn't engage that person in conversation To and it's tough on people it's tough for people who aren't naturally who don't Aren't naturally forthcoming with that kind of information there not everybody is willing to just speak those words I mean, I just said something very very private and intimate on a podcast. Not everybody is like that It's true I mean, but it's okay to be once again. We say all the time.
It's okay to be messy and it's okay to say Uh, this is awkward for me. I don't know how you stimulate my mind So maybe we need to try some things Right, you know or give me some ideas of what you want because you know as far as you know the tops go It's kind of there's not a lot of tops that are super creative I sometimes even though I do a lot of creative stuff. There's a lot of times where I'm just like Do mentally with this person, you know, I kind of just want to finger their ass and you know put a hook in them or something Oh my god Man, I just want to finger your ass Like it's like my dick what what's the big deal get on your hands and knees? I'll figure your ass here.
I'll put dr. Seuss in front of you read me green eggs and ham and then in between each page suck my deck a little I finger your ass. I'm stimulated. I don't know about you.
Oh my god Stupid man face. It's true. I am a stupid man face But no, this was really good. Hopefully that gave uh that gave mocking rice Excuse me a little uh a little bit of meat to work with and in general love to hear like a like a report.
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I am doing quite well mr. Bookie. How are you? I am just fine.
Thank you so much for asking It seems like it's been a million years. You better have some sort of report if you're gonna go away for that long And not come back with some sort of shenanigans to report on I'm going to question your loyalty to the perverted podcast listener How dare you sir? I got I got you I got you a featured orgasm. So you You know what?
I'm pretty sure you didn't go to iceland and uh inspire that uh that delight Just saying You are perverted and you just enjoyed listening to it just like me. I mean I did I did very very thoroughly enjoy it Um, but the the exchange that got that sense also got me another one just for me Oh really from a different person in our in our group. I won't call them out because I don't have permission to but um, yeah I got I got a very nice recording. Um, we're instead of thanking perverted podcast.
They just thank to me I fucking told you you're gonna get all the goddamn groupies Yeah, we need to go to iceland. That's that's just more and more confirmed every day every day. Well, yay enigma checks are sending you fucking master but tori shenanigans for you And I get on the weekends. I'm working at six flag.
So I'm getting my my psychological status out Oh, have you been doing the Halloween? Hons have started yes, and I'm working at our one of the local Hons here Um, if you want to hear me talk about more we did do an episode about that right a year ago Um about like the the science behind going into haunted houses, but yeah, it's definitely a lot of fun Um, there are of course dicks because I am working in basically customer service, but uh It's it's just a lot of fun and they have definitely been I had a thought Uh a few days ago like in the middle of work being like The the people who smile in that certain way and giggle when I scare them Um, there are people that I want to hang out with I'm sure You just got to slip them a card. I'm like a monster card. What's your character this year?
Uh, so I am wearing um, they have me these like full-face prosthetics which for those who don't know where basically Um latex pieces that have been molded into certain like face shapes and then glued onto my face. Um, right and so I'm I'm wearing that I'm I look very raptor-esque like I have a beak Oh, like dick knows no wonder the chicks are smiling at you Yeah Yes might might be cooking in deep. Uh, oh my god that now that would be awesome If you had a little bit of a pendant if you had an appendage off your nose It kind of looked like a bad dragon dildo or something and then all of a sudden the women are like You're like, huh? No, I mean at what point is it worth getting fired?
I'm gonna pretty much say there is a line There is a line um But I mean I have had so they're also having a walking around with this club looking thing And I have had several people like start to bend over and really Yeah, because like they're not scared but they are entertained and so like and part of me was like I could and I know how to do it well But then I would immediately get fired. Yeah You know what you should do you should have okay go with me on this You should have a spooky clipboard that has like some sort in like spooky fun like Waiver When they bend over you just like pull out a waiver and they look at it. You know the laugh That doesn't mean they're gonna sign it or whatever you'd still get fired, right? But um it would be kind of would be kind of fun if you just pulled out a waiver And just like kind of just give that shoulder shrug is like your spooky velociraptor itself You're like, I fuck yeah right here, but yeah, we're just like, yeah, depending on depending on where we are.
So absolutely A spooky waiver I also like this a business card, but it just has like my character name on it right I do enjoy that there are several characters and I thought about this there are several characters that I'm working with that have started like separate instagrams Just for their spooky character. So that could that could be entertaining that and that could be some sort of segue to segue to segue if you work it, right? Yeah, you know lead this to a facebook that leads to a thing even if it's your non-kink facebook, you know, right right? Well, yeah, I think these would start with vanilla and then yeah see where the person stands and then we'll go from there Have we really become that desperate?
Yeah, I think we have it's we're like okay If we do this vanilla thing and this vanilla thing and then maybe this vanilla thing will leave them here here here and then Club in the vagina. It's a desperation boogie or is it ingenuity? Touche enigma bravo. No, it's it's really desperation And apparently you have no other shenanigans to share about so let's get into the goddamn topics Yes, let's do that.
Uh, so our first article come from cypost.org It is this is a psychology website and the article is entitled longitudals study suggests friends with benefit relationships Work out best for those hoping to transition to friendship Before we get too deep into the article a longitudinal a longitudinal study is a type of study that looks at all the people and variables over an extended period of time This could take days to decades depending on what information is being considered Other studies on the topic have showed that friends with benefits have been rising in popularity But they weren't showing the long-term effects that these casual relationships can have Laura, Mashi and their team looked at how these relationships often evolve One of two ways either as a more intimate romantic relationship or just friends The study started with about 192 participants with a basic online survey The results were 48 percent, uh, hope their friends with benefits would stay the same 25 percent hopes for something more romantic and about 16 percent wanted a regular friendship or nothing at all Then 10 months later these subjects were asked how things had evolved and they found that the desire.com only happened 17 percent of the time The ones who saw it go the way they wanted were the ones that were hoping for friendship 59 participants were still friends at the 10 month mark And this couldn't this shouldn't come as a big shock but a lack of communication between partners was related to the relationship The relationships dissipating all together The team concluded that both communication and aligned expectations are critical for friends with benefits to end I like that we are starting to get into this because I mean 192 Study applicants is not a massive amount But it but it is a start and this is something that I've actually wanted to talk about on the show a lot because There are so many types of friends with benefits relationships Because there's the people that fall into a friends with benefits like they've been friends for a while and then you know They get drunk and next thing you know they're fucking and they're like well how do we deal with this? We thought we were gonna be friends blah blah blah then there's the people that kind of acquiesce to a friends with benefits relationship because they secretly really Want to do more with the other person which you was shared in the study I mean, there's really a lot of angles of people going into this So why don't you go ahead and give your babble first and then and then I'll throw some thoughts at No, like I'm definitely in a place in my life where we're having friends with benefits or people who I can be kinky with but also You know go to a movie with I think that's a place that I'm at I'm not at a place where I necessarily want Like a long-term relationship or a super committed partner and so reading over this and you know We talk about how you know kinky people tend to do communication in some ways better And I think that As long as I'm open with that sort of intent with the people that I'm playing with and the people that I'm interacting with I I'm confident that like those relationships will stay at least consistent and you know, I'm open to Things getting deeper things being more romantic like, you know, maybe having several partners and then you kind of work your way down to like having like your committed group, but I think I think it's I love how a lot of these studies that we've looked at like it so often just comes down to communication and Expressing your intent and what you're interested in because oftentimes we don't think about that like we're Especially in previous generations They were taught to kind of hold in emotions hold in your feelings like you're not supposed to like especially if you're in a marriage Or in your committed relationship, you're not supposed to express your distaste for what's happening And that's something that later generations have started getting out of because Those are those relationships that were so closed down just were incredibly toxic like you look at like the sitcom versions of these of these older families and how like The but grudging couple that like still lives together and they've been together with all of our grandparents Right, exactly. They absolutely hate each other but like when they're in person when they're talking to each other They don't talk about those things right like what if those what if those couples that talked about those things how much healthier Those relationships would have been Well, I think we still have that now I mean, I think we're a little better at it But I still think the majority of relationships out there are basically just building up to be Bitter grandparents. I think the difference is is that the women if you're talking about a heterosexual marriage The women in those relationships are more independent and able to leave So you're not stuck in the toxic and that's why there's a 60 percent divorce rate Oh, yeah, and I mean that was the other thing that the older generations didn't like divorce happened But like it wasn't like you were definitely looked down upon there was a lot of Societal pressure not to get that not to divorce and get away from that toxic relationship.
Yeah, that's not that we know No, not at all Which I like I mean so basically I agree with you that this is the whole idea of a friends with benefits relationship Is really breaking a really old social construct because that's not For at least in our cultures in our western cultures. There's it's always been You know, you get married and then you squirt out kids and then you live the sheep life And that's the the purpose of life as far as family goes And now we're we're discovering with all this new communication and this ability to see feelings you're finding people that are able to raise their hands and say I don't want that type of relationship. I want to go to school. I want to pursue a career I want to live my life.
I want to build a relationship with myself I want to become a better person myself before I invest in a long-term relationship with another person So just like you said the fact that people are just able to open their mouths now And say what they want is what puts us in a position to where this type of relationship for some people is a really good option Right. Yeah, I think It takes away a lot of the pressures and it let people just kind of have fun and as long as they're talking, I think that could be a lot healthier Now let's go into the the do's and don'ts of this type of relationship because I've had a lot a lot of friendships A lot of friends with benefits relationships And there's some really important things to understand once again if both people are not good communicators. We've already established that's It's probably not going to work because you're not going to have that opening negotiation Because some people have friends with benefits relationships kind of accidentally like I said and they just kind of well I guess we're fucking now and they don't really talk about it But for the people that do talk about it and they say hey, I'm in college here in college or I'm doing this You're doing that. I'm only available for this and they're like great.
That's me too. I have a thing going on in my life And that's what I want. That's a great place to start but even still you have some things that you have to watch out for because Bonding and the newer biology of mating is still a real thing Right bonding attachments oxytocin those newer transmitters that that lock you into a person Almost irrationally those come with certain intimacy points So when you're going to have a friends with benefits relationship, you need to not treat it like a real relationship like a long-term Intimate building something with somebody type of relationship If you're friends and you hang out and you go do things you have to have little benchmarks and I've had these conversations with partners You know how much cuddling are you doing? Are you sending cutesy romantic homes and cards and and are you looking for those deeper things?
Are you having conversations about what are you looking for in the future? All of those things register in your brain as training for a deeper more intimate relationship and sometimes you want to It's kind of dickish. You want to know somebody really wants you, but you don't want them as much So you kind of you kind of basically try to make them fall for you when you know you're not going to Reciprocate the commitment of a long-term relationship. Does that make sense?
Right. Well, you want you want some of you want some of the things a relationship that you don't want everything Right. So you're you're trying to get the things you want and avoid the other things But it's really hard if you're not setting boundaries correctly Yeah, because I mean the whole idea of friends with benefits is we're friends and so we can hang out on a friend level But we also have sex, but that sex has to have some boundaries to it It just does otherwise that mating process is going to go to some of that deeper dependency that happens It's really I mean, I've seen it. I've had it People that are more demisexual get it Really heavy because they're like, oh, we're gonna start out as friends and we're just gonna, you know, we'll play But no, I have to develop, you know, blah blah blah before I get really attached to someone Well, if if that friends with benefits relationship goes on for five months Guess what that may be enough time for you to develop that So if you aren't really strong in your relationship with yourself or you're not really committed With your friend to have those boundaries in place That can go bad unless of course you're saying well, you know, we're friends with benefits right now and you can have love it like you talked about Where it's like, well, we're gonna have all these other partners for a while And then you kind of hone it down until you find that group that you want to have a more serious relationship with Right and you brought up the demisexual part like that That definitely speaks like once I started like figuring out that I am Danny and that I do identify as a Danny person Like looking back on past like connections where like I mean, maybe I wasn't like super sexual But like if if I was this like a round somebody for a long enough time I would definitely like start to build feelings because I'd get to know them I'd get to know like I'd be able to like predict like their their quirks or what their needs or whatever and like I would definitely start to feel those relationship things But like because I wasn't confident with myself like I didn't know how to push that to the next level Right and so Knowing knowing that now and knowing where my head is now and having it's the idea of like having a label for it It's like, okay I'm demi that means that I need that emotional connection Which means that like if if I don't want to have relationships with somebody that I don't not necessarily avoid the person But like I have to try to make sure that there are boundaries in place So that I don't I don't make that mistake and I don't try to fall for somebody that I probably shouldn't I think it's absolutely wise and and that can be any number of things and that's once again That's part of knowing yourself You're like if for you even though it's cliche If it's like birthdays and special dates and valentines day or whatever those things if those things are like romantic Relationship be triggers for you.
You should not be doing those things in your friends with benefits relationship If you have certain things like oh, you know going out to you know on vacations together or you know Go with me to certain things that you know you associate with long-term relationships or building towards a long-term relationship Those things should not be done in your your friends with benefits relationship Those about and you have to talk about those things and kind of respect each other Otherwise Friends with benefits do not work. I've had some really successful amazingly successful friends with benefits relationships with people that over years Many years we've been friends and then one of us goes away or usually it's them because I have no ambition So they usually go out and get another job or another relationship or something And then they come back and because we kind of have that communication and those boundaries in check We can really just enjoy each other sexually in the moment when we're together and then after that We don't really you know spawn and spawn and respawn those feelings over that It's just that's a thing we do when we're together and it's very lovely And then we go back to just being friends and not I think another thing I would say is don't be overly consistently flirty If you're going to be friends with benefits Then remember that all of your conversations should not be focused on the sexuality and intimacy that you share Does that make sense? You know that totally makes sense that you're setting a boundary for even the casual stuff and not just when you're getting an intimate person Yeah, right because I mean the more you engage that You know, you're just you're constantly churning in your relationship Be kind of zoned with somebody and you should be careful of that This is a topic I actually had quite a bit of experience in and I feel pretty pretty good about my Yeah, I'm like and I've dabbled in stuff before like I I've talked about on the show like I feel like Actually romantically I'm a little bit of a late bloomer As far as like I didn't really start getting into sex until college but like getting into those relationships and figuring those out I think Is something that like I like you were saying at the beginning of this like I'm glad that people are Finally looking at these relationships and finally doing these studies because like they're I laughed at the article being like they're growing a popularity It's like I think they've been popular for a while We just haven't talked about it right right and and like because like in college like everybody was having casual like friends with benefits Like it felt like so like I think the fact that we were looking at those now I think is incredibly important and I look forward to What we figure out about how people take here here very very good now Let us leave the stratosphere or enter the stratosphere or leaving Enter the stratosphere relieving the atmosphere ground control to major enigma I should have wrote some actual jokes for this segment, but I didn't I'm just trying to wing them in there horrible They're not good. I let us go into the next.
Let us go into the cosmos. I guess So our next article comes from earthsky.org and the article's entitled sex in space time to talk about it So humans have a great need to travel to stars But to do that we need to account for sex But the ones in charge of sex space exploration just aren't ready for that Organisations like nasa and spacex have plans to colonize Mars or send people on long-term space missions But have so far made no considerations for whole human beings with needs and desires So this brings in the idea for a new field of human study space sexology Yes, the few studies that do relate to the topic have to do with radiation on animal reproduction with rodents and insects How fun? Yeah, not incredibly helpful And abstinence is not a viable option Figuring sex or masturbation into these space missions could help future astronauts with relaxation with sleep, help alleviate pain All these things that we know sex and intimacy can help with Also can help build bonds between the crew as they travel for long periods of time As we talked about on the show like people who Are together for a long period of time tend to grow attraction to each other And so putting people into this kind of dangerous situation is going to bring this bring people together and we need to account for that There is a really cool clip in the article that is included from Neil the grass tyson I'm talking about this subject and basically the the things that we need to think about are Have to do with the physics of sex in space. Especially if we're using spacecraft like we do with no real gravity available So what he was talking about is something that can people will love there's gonna be lots of straps involved Space Socks or yes space socks if you're gonna jerk.
I mean look it's just a who knew that millions of teenage boys We're doing the star track evolution invention thing By jerking off into socks because now if you're in space You sure don't want to be floating down the little corridor thing and fucking astronaut fucking jerky pants is over there launching his load When zero g and bring it into that that's gotta be bad on the equipment space right right or or we we bring in some sort of like um penis pump Masturbations leave thing so like as you're jerking it and comment it like sucks your comment in the space Yeah, that's a space sock. It's what he just said. I know he said can you imagine if one of the female astronauts was a squirter Oh my god Today the international space station plummeted into a death spiral into the ground Because a really horny squirting astronaut knocked out 16 billion dollars worth of space equipment Thus altering the orbit and killing the entire crew that is a good orgasm Oops These are the jokes kids. Yeah Should have wrote some down This is what happens go ahead No, I was like I think like we're talking about before like again We're talking about these kind of like newly discovered things we need to turn up We're finally studying and like it is true like like you have People like NASA space X like other countries around the world are wanting to colonize the moon colonize Mars Like they're wanting to put people on these planets for long periods of time and like they're gonna have sex Like that's that's just a given so like we need to figure out a way that they can do it safely and healthily And also we need to look at like things like reproduction like they've been looking at it with like animals and insects and stuff like Let's let's look at humans like like let's talk about humans and what like could a person give birth and in With zero gravity like like what what effect would that have?
Yeah, what do these things going to have if you're yeah, and I don't know it just seems so weird like Maybe they have experiment because I just it's so hard to believe that these Organizations that lean very into the sciences would be so completely crude Like I'm assuming that maybe there have been some experiments But maybe they just haven't talked about I mean they had a married couple up there There's been guy and girl there is no I don't care how professional you are There's no how are you going to resist being part of the the 10 mile high club There's gotta be some they probably said hey if you guys need to fuck just don't do it on the camera because wouldn't that be amazing I actually wrote a uh Iraq about that about two astronauts that were fucking and it got all hot and then at the end you know the The lead the admiral whatever comes hands all you do realize today was the day that we were going to be on live cam To this the set of universities you do realize thank you good show god good job Um like I can't imagine that there hasn't been a blowjob in space yet I mean or someone I jerking off in their little gravity sleeping bag thing I just googled it because i'm curious and so far nasa neither nasa nor astronauts have admitted to any sort of sexual activity in space So if it's happened if it's happened nobody's talking about it that is that's not cool bro This article pisses me off. I mean it just does it should be I mean Like come on Come on Well, I mean and actually the article I found is actually a good Um follow up It's like the things that we haven't studied and that we're just like Hypothesizing are like the the effects of low gravity would affect blood flow and pressure and bodies impacting one another Um and you know like zero gravity and being in those scenarios like changes your brain chemistry So like all of these things are things that we should like I know that they've looked at like exercise in space and they brought treadmills and stuff to like on the On the space stations so like people can actually do those things in space Right like and we talked about before that like sex can have similar effects to exercise, but it's also different There's stuff to study. There's real stuff to study here and uh, you know because you don't know how I mean this could be You you're you're marching towards colonizing the moon or mars and getting people there But if you don't study something that's a basic real need that's going to happen How do you know something disastrous doesn't happen in zero g? How do you know something physiologically like dangerous to a person doesn't happen besides you know Squirting your cum all over equipment and electrocuting accru and dying crashing into the ocean at 23 000 hours an hour um You don't know so you you would think that these are think like what are you gonna wait until the day before you You know send a crew to you know on a seven month mission to mars Yeah, like are you gonna send the mission first and then just see how miserable they are and they kill each other because they're so pent up I don't know.
I think this is a little uh slightly retarded. I think this is not not not a good article to read Who do we protest? Where do we send our letters to? um nasa dear nasa the nut in space organization These are the jokes better rough week.
I quit my other job Okay Well, hopefully they'll get around to it Or they'll just send you and I up into space with 10 Lovely ladies and let us experiment in zero g. I'm I'm I'm I'm a advocate for science. I would be on I'd be on top of that I do it I do it. Who knows?
Maybe you can hold in it. Maybe maybe space sex. Hey helps with the rectile dysfunction That would be an interesting thing to study. Yeah, think about that because you know the blood has to stay in the thing And you know maybe in zero gravity it doesn't you know flow backwards is easy.
Maybe boners in space are like raging boners in space There are so many so many things so many things we need to find out nasa by the way. You suck This is why they took your funding You add years that's what the people really want give the people what they want We want to know about titties in space nasa you failed. That's why space x is going to take over and google guy bezos But they're not doing any better Did you hear that uh I believe it was china wants to build a space colony on the dark side of the moon And so um, I think nasa's gonna get more funding so that's pretty creepy and cool Right. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. The shadow people Sounds like a horror movie It would be very much a horror movie Enigma if our lovely perverted podcast listeners want to find us on the inner webs where are they gonna go? Well, they can find us on instagram at perverted podcast they can find us on twitter at perverted pcast and then they can find us on Fettlife but there's both a group and a page Yeah We hate we got an email from our friend kazoo yay We love kazoo kazoo says as of last night. I have officially become our And now your vagina is ready for fucking oh my is that what pp zan means?
I don't think that's what it means to me One of these days i'm gonna fuck me a zam. Oh, yeah, that's what i'm saying. That's that's that's one of my it's on my bucket list You know just somebody who knows me better than I know myself No such thing. Oh, sorry.
What i don't what are you talking about? I had fucking mental breakdown for the last 10 days I don't know myself at all. Oh, yes, you do you knew that mental breakdown was coming Yeah, I only because I know no matter what I do it's gonna be here eventually and again and again and again Meltdowns are a way of life. Unfortunately congratulations kazoo Yes, he said I seem to be joining a legion of such listeners several of whom chat with me regular on the pp discord server Which I keep open on my laptop and just about 24 seven wow that's some dedication just keep the discord server open 24 seven Just keep it going keep it going she says I started listening to perverted podcast my freshman year of college I was still living at home reading the smudy as fan fiction on an ancient toshiba laptop and dreaming of the day that I could make the fantasies I read about real I stumbled upon your podcast via the sex explanations video and listening the car on the way to and from college I've met so many friends through a mutual love of the podcast all of whom live in every corner of the world and love jumping into an online video Call to discuss barbecue placings and strange pronouncing Asians of foreign cities.
That's a that is awesome I actually finished it by saying I feel like I email you to a lot So maybe this feels somewhat overstated by now, but thank you I know the podcast has been a labor of love and sometimes Maybe you feel a little disappointed that it didn't pick up the larger audiences you wanted But it has affected people. I know several dozen in the server who would say that it impacts their life every single day I would argue that it has literally changed my life certainly for the better That is wonderful. Shit. I was just gonna quit the show No, go ahead run away Kathy Because you just laid a bomb that just laid a bomb.
Shit. You're gonna have to get away in another two weeks now before they forget Oh, all right. We all she did ask for pins and of course I'm putting one in the mail But I can't yet because she also asked for our autograph so somehow or other you and I must meet so that you can sign this card I'll tell you what I believe it somewhere And then you can come like under a rock in a park somewhere that sounds creepy And fun too. Can you wear like a little skirt when you drop it off and I can watch you from afar creepier is if we meet in the same place No, that's just dangerous I mean we could meet a mutual place and you know turn over Things okay Yeah, let do one more.
Why not okay kid Fox slave our good friend road test and says hey Kathy. Oh, oh, oh A little information before I read this she was listening to the episode in which I talk about how Dedicates insensitive my vagina is and how you know, I like girth instead of length when you know you and I had that conversation about uterus versus The cervix and I said that I hurts when okay, she says master calls my vagina a princess of a giant because it's so sensitive and small I bleed easily and sometimes have to take days off from sex I also have what's called a retroverted uterus Which is a uterus that is tipped backwards so that it aims towards the rectum instead of forwards towards the belly and which causes pain during certain sexual Position, so maybe that's what's causing some of your pain during sex. You know what? I never thought about I never a retroverted uterus.
I'm gonna have to contact it sounds like a 70s term like, you know, you got shag carpet all over and it's all retroverted You got a lava lamp, you know by your ovaries Some black lights going on over by your coming out of your fallopian tubes, you know with some velvet blacklight posters I think my uterus is having a better time than I am. That sounds There's the disco floor and the disco ball coming out and then it's my uterus is in the corner reclining on a on a bean bag all retroverted Yeah, oh my god. I remember those 70s bean bags. Oh my god.
Oh, I love my bean bag. I loved it Dude, yeah, that's cool. Kathy. If you have a retroverted fucking penpen Well, I mean, no, it just means you got to take it easy and do more anal And no that's not happening.
I've only done it twice. It's not like either time and it's just not no good for me But I will say that thank you to kit foxlady. I'm gonna pin per thing again her uh service oriented conference on october 16th Which is an online virtual conference Uh focus on giving and receiving service in a kinky man or for both dominance and submissives visit service conference dot org to sign up It looks pretty awesome to me very good. And now you of course know that your uh, your vagina is not alone in its uh, you know sensitivities The guys added a vagina it is but it's pimping it has like an entire 70s theme going on When you walk inside it's all like it's all like stevie wonder fucking jams and like early jacks and five, you know Just right when you fucking come in the pussy.
It's just like oh Which by the way, I don't want michael jackson in my vagina Well, it's young michael jackson and yeah, that's even worse. Yeah, that's no good That's worse. That's all right. And why how the tables turned later on in life.
It's sorry It just wasn't amazing I was just listening to them breaking down the bass part for that song and it is one of the greatest based parts of any Fuck it's just sorry and it's in your vagina. That's and it's in my vagina. Yes, and it's in your I am that's what we do here Please do not forget to visit us on patreon.com forward slash perverted podcast consider becoming a supporter of the show by contributing Five bucks if you give a fuck and don't forget that you can always talk to boogie and myself But you know, we know set perverted podcast at gmail.com or by stopping by our perverted podcast vet life profile entitled perverted podcast I say that so many times I say the words perverted podcast at the end of the show like fucking 20 times You well, you know, that's called brand recognition That was that what I call it a man make of me say that word I was gonna say and I don't want to I almost want to wait until we stop recording But as far as the man hating it was pretty moderate you I mean you hate it Down down down people down I mean you kept the hate at a nice level, but you were still you know You weren't useless, you know, you were able to comment on things and give advice and wisdom and stuff like that While holding just a nice even level of hatred towards men. I am a woman of many talents and that's one of that That is uh, that is very good.
I'm very proud of you Even though it doesn't matter because I'm a man and you want a leather dike I do want a leather dike. That's what I want right now is a leather dike I'm so sick of men they're fucking driving me crazy Just to put a collar and chain around your neck and just yank on it and fucking drag you to the floor And then stiffer stick or strap on in your fucking throat There's just something about leather dikes that I there I will take More I had this good sound horrible abusive behavior from them that I will take from men I don't know why and and I really crave it's something that I even would create of explorer He was never as rough as I wanted and so I there's a part of me that really craves that That rough treatment that uh, you know, if you can find the right leather dyke man She'll just give it to you. Yeah lesbians don't fuck around man. They don't Don't fuck around but leather dikes in particular.
Yeah, just hardcore. They will if they're yeah, fuck The stories I would hear from that. What the fuck was that called the women's the thing that you did that was uh Yeah, let's not talk about that. I mean, I'm gonna give a name.
No, okay. I'm in a good mood I've had a long week boogie for that for that for me in the office making me do all kinds of shit Not appreciating my contribution to the company Kathy I appreciate your contribution for vertical podcast you're amazing on the show and you give you were you are the reason that so many of these people Rppzams and so uh, don't quit at least for another two weeks and Because you never know somebody could be like literally just waiting for that epiphany moment And you're the one that's gonna say the thing that's gonna deliver that to them So I mean you can go you know, I'm not gonna stop you but you know, don't get off Don't feel bad emotional boogie. I'm not you know Alright, let's close out this show. Well to everyone else.
It's been a fun show some good conversations Thank you so much to enigma for jumping in we haven't heard from him in a while and uh, we will see you guys next week on show 332 I I True