336: Conclave/The Two Popes with Guest Tom Murphy

A lapsed Catholic, a lapsed Baptist, and a poet walk into a bar. The punchline: "Catholics are canceling us after this episode." Fear not, my children, since poet Tom Murphy joins us for the first time to discuss award-buzzy Conclave and The Two Popes (2019), and we do our best to keep the blasphemy to the bare minimum.  Beers by Brasserie de Chimay (Trappist beer made in a Catholic monastery...come on!!) and Founders Brewing. Find Tom's work at https://tommurphywriter.com/