336: Ray Gootz and the Caroline's Affect

Does having a job adjacent to your dreams help you to or keep you from achieving your dreams?   In 2022, headlines were made and the comedy community grieved as the world Famous Caroline's Comedy Club closed its doors New Years Eve of 2022.  The space was quickly converted into a Spin ping pong palace.   Ray Gootz is a stand up comedian who not only ran a weekly show there.  But he also managed the service end of the Caroline's for 12 years.  He talks about how he gave up restaurant management to pursue comedy full time.  He talks about how saying the wrong words on the Keith and the Girl podcast irritated long time talent manager Louis Feranda and got him fired.   Ray shares what it's like to go back to the building that once occupied the club where his career started.  He relives his experiences of what he did right and what he did wrong.