338 Unicorns And Balls

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Sunny here recording on Zencaster from thousands of miles away on the East Coast, hanging out with my stuffy Muirty. And I am, of course, Count Boogie. And we are ready to do so. Look, Sunny, this is like the second time in a week that we've hung out sort of vicariously through the inner webs.

The other time was we did some hypnoclass together. Yes, we did an event. We did an actual event together. The Pivert of Podcast listeners are going to be like, what?

Boogie went to a class? He did something? Yes, I did. I almost didn't.

I had to sit outside the library in the sun and try to figure out how to get on Zoom. I'm kind of old with those things, but you guys walked me through it. Yeah, we went to consolation and it was lots of fun. And I'm really glad you got to make it to one.

It was good. And so who's class? We went to a hypnoclass. Yes, done by HypnoStory and PandaPet.

And actually the event was pretty successful. There were both hypno and rope classes throughout the weekend. And it's sounding like they're thinking about doing it again periodically because there was such a turnout. I thought it was a lot of fun.

I wish I would have made it to a few more of the hypno classes. Of course, you and I talking about hypno and all the hypno we've talked about before. I'm starting to finally develop like with some plays, especially something that's like an entire modality like hypnosis. You really have to get your head around it before you can dive in.

Needles was a thing for me. Waxplay was a thing for me. There's a few things that I'm like, oh, I kind of get it. But once you start to really understand how the mind works in something, that's when you go, oh, yes, that makes perfect sense.

And hypno is definitely one of them. I think this last class was taught really well. There was a lot of good points made. And it was really good to see so many demos and how the bottom just was able to go in and out of trance so quickly, so repetitively, and yet still kind of maintain themselves in their ability to come out of it.

And so then be coherent and talk. And so there was a lot of stuff and there was one thing that he said that I'll tell the listeners about that is the thing that set me off the most. And it was just a mention of like a rare case where somebody does hypnosis and it's like a burn scene and then they actually develop like a blister in the area. Now, then I haven't seen any data on this or whatever, but there was also mention of an impact hypno scene that left a bruise and soreness and those types of things.

And all of a sudden when they were talking about it, I was like, well, that makes perfect sense because hypno is basically a good thing. Hypno is basically just removing the actual physical trigger when you're especially when you're doing kink in hypno and you're doing like a hypno impact scene. What you're doing is if somebody is really able to allow their mind to go there, you're triggering the brain to have physiological reactions to impulses that just aren't actually happening. Yes.

And to be fair, it doesn't happen often. I think that that would probably be a very rare occurrence, but just the idea that something like that is possible does illustrate the point of how your body and your mind are connected. So if you control one, you control the other. Absolutely.

And I think that's really what I was getting at and starting to really understand that the brain reacts and it sends chemicals. I mean, we've talked about placebos on the show and Kathy and I were really big on placebos because your brain is actually doing something, even though you're taking a sugar pill and you think that it's some sort of medication or something. If your brain goes for the goes for the joke, it'll start sending all the chemicals and neurotransmitters hormones and that type of stuff. So it may not be as intense as actually having a real physiological trigger, but that's where I started to see the connection that oh, so the orgasms maybe aren't as intense as a physical contact to the brain.

So it's a physical contact orgasm in most cases, but the mind is obviously if you've tricked the mind, then the mind will go for it. And I can actually attest, it can be pretty intense. Yeah, so but when you orgasm hypnoe, you had said before that most of the time they're not as intense normally. It really depends.

I have had ones that I think were very close to equal. Wow. I don't know if that's all the time, but it's I mean, it happens fairly frequently. So I think they can be pretty intense, but we talked about how a lot of people with penises are like a feeling like they're having an orgasm, but they don't, you know, ejaculate.

So they're like, well, I don't know if it was a real one. And I sometimes wonder if because I don't have a dick that I'm just sort of released from getting in my head about that kind of thing. Sure, sure. Yeah, because that kind of makes sense.

Because once again, if just because you're not ejaculating doesn't mean you haven't released those hormones in your brain and that you aren't able to then have sort of the after effects. Maybe you don't need the same refractory period and that would be maybe a great way to cheat for a dude. You know, instead, because you don't need a refractory period because you haven't had a physiological ejaculation. So maybe you could just double up.

First one, hypnose, second one for real real. Yep. And I have definitely seen a person with a cock look down. What's the difference?

Going where's the mess? Whoa. You know, but like if that's what you're expecting, then you know it was pretty darn intense. That's great.

That's fantastic. So I didn't want to get to like a whole hypnother thing, but I was really excited and it's fun for me. That's why you go to classes, even if it's online or whatever. We got to do bonding.

It was fun. It was. I saw you. You were wearing your little runzy.

You looked all cute. Your daddy was there next to you. It was, you know, it was kind of I had to put up that mental block because I was like, you looked all cute. And I'm like, huh?

Yeah, little girl. You know, and then I'm like, oh, then he's there. And you know, it's just, you know, it's a little awkward. You know, I'm a Hey, bro.

How's it going? Bro? Good to see you. You look cute.

You look completely fuckable on that one. See what does that flapping back? What? Oh, never mind.

Just let's focus on the class. Sorry about that. I looked cute. You did look cute.

You did look cute. But you know what? We have another topic that's almost as fun. Don't use her badges.

Be to get another me. It makes her a lack of douche. It makes my jig's eye rate. If you want a unicorn or a hunch of a Romeo, don't have your girl sneaking your dick as part of the deal.

Don't force your girlfriend to be. You're pussy, broker. You think you're a player. But you're kind of a You gotta do the work before you stick in your poker.

Don't force your girl to be. You're pussy, broker. Pussy, broker. See, see, Sonny?

It's a pussy, broker. I don't know. I don't like it. I think it has potential.

Well, the hope is that it kind of opens up the topic because we are going to talk about unicorns and unicorn hunters and what's ethical about it and what's not because there's actually, you have shared in the by women's community, which I have seen actually for a while. I have seen actually for a lot of years because I dated somebody who started a very large bisexual women's group and I have seen this for years and that is women being very tired of there being a couple and the man lays back and then shoves the woman out to go bring in unicorns. So they can have sex with them. Yes.

So you said, let's first define what a unicorn is. So why don't you give a definition? Your definition of unicorn. I'll give mine.

Okay. And of course, you know, this is generalized. It's not always the case, so little caveat. But generally, when you hear about unicorns, you're hearing about a bisexual person usually assist female who is willing to date a typically hetero couple dating them exclusively.

So they're not having any outside partners of their own and giving equal attention to both members of the couple. Okay. I'm on board with that and I like that you said that that's, you know, that's a generalized. So it can be anything.

I mean, as far as I'm concerned, in my experience as a unicorn is like you said, a woman that's based on a woman's group. And you said, a woman that's basically interested in being inside a poly relationship without necessarily being a part of the dynamic. Or rather that they are willing to commit to being with both members of an existing couple. And often the expectation is that they're not going to get to play with anybody else.

Oh, that's. But they can't have these other outside partners. And there's no like, well, I prefer one or the other has to be both. So in general, a unicorn is somebody that comes in to an established relationship and they are the outside party and it can be for a number of reasons, both positive and both negative in the positive sense.

A unicorn can be somebody which I've experienced multiple times in my poly relationships where there was somebody that's like, Hey, I want to come and play with you guys. I don't really want a relationship because I'm doing all this with school and business and career and stuff like that. And I want to, I want to play and I want to have a little bit of intimacy and I really don't want to just play with a bunch of people. So I kind of just am looking for some people to just enjoy and that can be very positive because everyone's kind of on board with the situation.

And it's very positive and they stay for a little while and then they go or they stay for a couple years and then they go and whether or not they end up joining the dynamic because feelings happen or whatever, you know, can or doesn't have to happen. But a unicorn hunter, what's your definition of a unicorn hunter? Right. So there's nothing wrong with being a unicorn or even wanting a unicorn to come and join you with whatever you've got going on.

But unicorn hunters are specifically folks who are looking for a unicorn and who kind of get a bad rap because there's a lot of dishonesty that comes along with it, a lot of bait and switch, a lot of, you know, one woman approaching another and saying I'm into you. And then, you know, you meet and you spend time together and then you're going to play and all of a sudden it's, Oh, this is, you know, the dick and play. Right. They like to play too or they're just going to watch.

Hope you don't mind. Right. So that's where some of the negative stuff comes in. It's not just being a unicorn to be clear.

If everybody's happy with the arrangement, then that's fantastic. It's just when it's not upfront. And that's kind of where I came in with two categories. When is it not do she and when is it do she and you had touched on a lot of the do she said, like if the male is not part of the initial hunt or a disclosure of true intentions and you covered that if the unicorn is actually looking to be an equal part of the relationship dynamic and the couple kind of lets them or lets her believe that that's the case, but it's really not.

They're still going to keep their hierarchy and they're just looking for someone to play with and that can be really do she because it's manipulative. If it's done in a way that's deceptive and which I've heard that before where it's like you throw the female out to kind of inspire feelings and attraction and then just like you said, actually you just said that, you know, so it's like you get her roped in and she falls, you know, kind of has starts having feelings for the female. And then all of a sudden it's like, Oh, yeah, by the way, you can't have me unless he's involved. Right.

You touched on it. You know, not only the whole process of how does this thing come together, but sometimes there's the issue of making it seem like it's going to be an equal partnership. But then asserting sort of like couple privilege and when we make the rules and not really allowing the unicorn to have the autonomy to decide what they want to happen in the relationship. Absolutely.

And once again, if you go into the category when unicorn hunting is not do she, and that is what we talked about in Aussium on the show, which is disclose, disclose if both partners are very upfront and open about what they are looking for in the beginning, then the unicorn as an adult person gets to decide for themselves what's best for themselves. Now we're not going to get too far into the dynamics of when things change. Like, you know, it starts out one way and then someone develops feelings or someone thinks they're cool. And then all of a sudden they decide that they feel very threatened and insecure.

That happens in monogamous relationships. That happens in polyrelate. I mean, that's just that's just normal shit that happens. But we're talking about that initial because I mean, in general, this really I mean, let's be honest, Sonny, this really comes about because you're having trouble finding females to date because they're mostly, they're all, they're defensive.

There's so many women are just defensive because they know that you have, you know, you would have other partners. So there's just an automatic expectation that there's something nefarious going on in that your male partner's penis is have to be involved. Right. So I mean, it's not just about me.

I'm in a number of, you know, bisexual women's groups on FET Life. I'm constantly saying these posts about why is it so hard? Why don't women want to date me? And it's not just about the unicorn issue.

There are lots of things that kind of go into this that make it difficult. And let me just say I'm coming at this from a position where I'm a queer person. I'm pansexual. I like parts.

Right. Hearts not parts. I got it backwards. You're not, what do we get it?

That's other. We used to call it a whole. I like parts too. We used to just call it a total horror.

But now it's called pansexual. Listen. Okay. I have two wonderful partners in my life who I love dearly and both of them have a cock.

Good. And people are like, Sonny, like, why two dicks? Like if you're by or pan, why two dicks? And I'm kind of like, well, these are the people that I fell in love with that I care about.

And I met them at a time when I was open to new partnerships and I wouldn't change that for the world. That doesn't mean I don't want to touch a girl sometimes. And it doesn't mean that there aren't some dynamic things that go on. I have a dominant partner and a submissive partner, but I'm pretty clear that I am a dom myself on that end of the spectrum.

And my submissive partner is not really into kink in the bedroom. So sometimes I want to swing a crop a little bit, damn it. Yeah. And if you wanted 12 dicks, why would that?

There's nothing wrong with one, 12 or 24? I don't want to touch a girl sometimes. And if I had two partners that were women or non-binary folks or if I had partners of different genders, I don't know if I would get as much side eye. But I think that there's a lot of judging that goes on in this community, like why it's so hard.

There are so many by women. And I'm like, but you know what? You're not pounding down my door. I get hundreds of messages from men.

Men respond to my messages. And I don't have to weed through all this red tape of, you know, I try to be a respectful person. If I look at somebody's profile and I'm like, wow, they're really hot. And we have a lot in common.

And I might like to maybe get to know them. And I read down their page and it's like, if you date a person like the cock, don't fucking message me. I don't want to hear from you. I don't want any part of your unicorn bullshit.

And I'm not exaggerating. Sure. I've seen them bad. I've seen them get red letters on Facebook.

I'm like, okay, well, I do have cock in my life. I don't date on FET Life. I don't think I have ever, I may have gotten one play partner of FET Life from someone I started talking to or whatever. But I, I'm a real-time person.

So a lot of times when I hear people like you talking about the frustrations of what people write in their profiles and how that creates, and like, well, just go out and meet people. I mean, that's the best way to do it anyway. But that's not a reason option. That's not a reason option.

I think the pandemic has had an impact. You know, I'm not going to, like we just did this virtual event. I'm not going to a lot of in-person things right now. I just got my booster shot.

I feel like shit, but I'm glad that I got it. And I'm waiting for it to be fully active so I can maybe like leave my home once in a while. But, you know, I think that online has become even bigger than it used to be in the time of pandemic because people don't want to take the risk if there's no chemistry, no connections. So, you know, if you're planning or talking to people, maybe you're doing a Zoom date or whatever, because I mean, I personally don't want to be out meeting a bunch of people in public.

I'm not even eating in restaurants right now. Right. Well, I think, so let's get back to the giant font. If you have a dick, don't bother.

Now then. Where do you have a partner with a dick? Don't bother. Yeah, if you, you know what I'm saying.

They know what I'm saying. Look, I misspeak constantly on this show. They just kind of, they just listen for my tone. They just, like a dog, they are screaming fucking infant, which I hate both of them.

But I'm like that. Sorry. But I digress. They're there.

They understand. Let's get back to the rejection of seeing something like that and knowing, wait a minute. That's not me. Right.

That's I'm not like that. I'm you're you're putting these big fonts off and you're you're shooting yourself in the foot because God damn it. Sonny's a nice person. Sonny's dicks are well managed and Sonny's dicks don't have to be involved, but they mean it.

They really mean it. But on the other side, I know you're you're a free thinking person and you look at other people's feelings. So you know how many people. How many people?

I have no sides of this. Absolutely. You know how many people have said, no, my partners don't want to be involved. And then sure enough, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.

Well, they just want to watch just like you said earlier. And so the defensiveness is real. So how do we get it? It's definitely real.

Yeah. And it does suck. And it's hard when you get categorized as as something that you're not. And there's a million people around the world that deal with that on much worse levels than set life.

It's a problem around the world. And that's when people go to protect themselves. Sometimes there's collateral damage. And if you're the collateral damage, you're like, I don't want to be the collateral damage.

But that's just how it is. So what can we do going forward? Because not every bisexual woman out there is that adamant. Maybe many of them are.

Maybe even the majority of women have that big font on their profile. Right. But it's not an absolute. Right.

Like I said, you know, I've been on all sides of this. I have been in relationships in the past where I've had a partner, a man say, like, oh, we've done all these things on like your relationship. Like, oh, we've done all these things on like your sexual bucket list. Like I would really like to have some FFM.

Maybe you could find someone for this. And, you know, I get tons of messages from couples. And honestly, if the message says, we're a couple and we're interested, it does not bother me that much. I mean, really, like you probably should read my profile and say I'm not looking for that.

But at least you're honest. But the only women popping up in my inbox, like they're attached to a dick that I don't want any stuff. So I get it. I really do.

But I think that, you know, with women in general, we have a little bit of like, there's a little bit of like cute girl privilege. I'm just going to acknowledge it where you're used to being kind of catered to and getting hundreds of messages and just getting to pick and choose. And I think that getting past that and saying, you know what, I have to be the one to put myself out there and say hello to somebody to actually had a disaster. But I'm doing it.

You know, hello, you know, you know, we have some things in common. I'm interested in you as a human being and to actually state outright, I'm not unicorn hunting. I know that I have partners, but that's not what I'm about. Well, I think that's, I mean, ultimately, and that's kind of always been my approach is to just disclose up front.

And then if you get rejected, then I don't have time to psychologically fix every human on earth. All I can do is what I can do. And I can try to put myself out there and I can try to disclose. And if somebody has burned the bridge in front of me without my knowledge, I can't change that.

Right. Nobody owes me, you know, I have been in enough situations where I tell somebody, no, you can say something, you can tell me what you're thinking. And they go, yeah, the last three guys said that. And then they gaslit me with every piece of information I gave them.

So that's, I mean, that's just an unfortunate part of dating is that some people have baggage and damage. And if you can get through it, you can get through it. And if you can't, you just have to move on to the next person and do your best. But if you're disclosing upfront and you're taking that initiative, I mean, once again, you can cry and bitch and shit your pants over it.

But that's not going to get you any dates. It's not going to get you a woman. At some point, you have to decide, well, I have sat and patiently waited in front of the FETs for nine months. And I am not getting any letters from anybody that I'm interested in.

I guess that means it's my responsibility to start reaching out. Yeah. And you do the best you can. And you're honest.

And, you know, the other day, I was, I was chatting and I mean, I'm honestly not working that hard, but I am open to like the possibility of dating a girl or having a female submissive in my life. If I met somebody who I connected with, but it's not something I'm like really hunting hard for. But, you know, I saw this cute girl and I started up a conversation and we were like chatting back and forth and it's flirty and it's kind of nice. And I'm like having a good time.

And then all of a sudden, like the conversation just dies. And I'm like, I have no idea why. And later that evening, I was talking to my dad and I was like, I don't know what the fuck happened. It was so weird.

He was like, uh, was it so and so? And I'm like, yes. What's it? I just saw that you liked a bunch of pictures.

So I followed that person. I had no idea. You were like chatting and flirting. It's like, oh my God, that's all it took.

That's all it took. What did we call it? What's what? And it was totally an accident.

But literally, sometimes that's all it takes. That's it. That's it. Oh, yeah.

That's it. So, you know, I'm like, listen, be empowered to say this is not what we negotiated if the situation arises, whether it's within your own relationship and your partner is pressuring you to go out and find someone else and it's not what you want. Feel empowered to say fuck no. Go do your own hunting or that's not within the bounds of the relationship that we negotiated.

And if someone pulls a bait and switch on you, feel empowered to say fuck no, I wanted to play with you, not with the dick that's attached to you. I'm not going to do it. I'm out. But you know, there's never 100% guarantee regardless of who you're dating or what their gender is.

Like anybody, they could say send you pictures and be like, I'm the gorgeous person and then it turns out they're not. Or I'm really healthy. And like, you know, it turns out like, I don't know that they haven't brushed their teeth. Six weeks.

I don't know. You know, like, oh, it's hard. It's hard sometimes to brush your teeth every. No, what I mean.

I just want to give a silly example of like an offend anybody. Oh, Sonny, come on. You haven't been here long enough. Because by being offended, you learn things about yourself.

The more you know pussy broker. You don't have to be a pussy broker. If you don't want to, well, well, well put Sonny. And from my point of view, as the unicorn hunter that has always and I am well known to be a unicorn hunter, but I'm the one doing the hunting because I know it's easy.

Like when I had bunny and you, they're both gorgeous. They're both amazing. They're both laid back. They're totally easy to get along with.

They're super supportive. Like anyone that comes in, they're like, oh my God, you're awesome. Come on. Let's be awesome together here.

We can play with stuff easier, you know, whatever, you know, and I know that I am the obstacle. Not just the fact that I have a dick because some people like dick, but just I know I'm the obstacle. I appreciate. Well, you got to.

I hope you like them. That's kind of picture. You like look at all these dicks I got. Dick, dick, dick, dicks.

How's dicks? I even have my own pockets. Pink and sparkly and husband. For me, I need to go.

I'm just going to be a dick. If you're going to call yourself a Dom and you're sending your submissive to go hunt for your fucking prey, you're not a fucking real Dom to me, in my opinion. You can live your own truth. But if you have to hide behind somebody to go get your chicks for you, then what are you really hiding?

Like what is wrong with you? That's fair. Like you have some, you know, what insecurity do you have? What do you have?

You know, like once again, and if you're not a dominant in the relationship, you know, if you're not trying to be like the alpha, then okay, I can understand if you tell your partner, maybe she's more aggressive and she's more gregarious and you're like, I'm actually really shy. There's nothing wrong with that. But once again, you still need to be involved in that process right up front. Right.

It's about telling the truth. It's really just, I mean, that just, God damn it, it always comes down to fucking communication, Sonny. It's a nausea. I'm so sick of the word communication.

It's all we ever talk about on the show and it fixes almost every goddamn thing. Just be upfront, just disclose and then be willing to deal with the rejection and not like shit on people for it because they're burned for a reason. You know, and sometimes just in the peripheral seeing you have integrity and not be a bitch about their rejection sometimes softens them. Sometimes softens them to you a little bit.

Sometimes makes them see that you have some character and that, hey, you reached out and I said, you know, no, and then you said, thank you very much and went on your way and didn't say much and nasty mean shit and in leaving. So I don't think it's a lost cause for you, Sonny, and I like the effort that you've been putting in that you've been telling me about and I think it is way, way more effective than waiting. So, you know, whatever, if I get slapped in the face with, you know, a really gorgeous and in the end, lovely submissive lady, I'm not going to like turn away from it. We reach out to Sonny Lee May on pervertedpoundcast.com.

This was not a personal ad. Yes, it was. It's always a personal ad. And let me tell you, I'm not.

Yes, yes, Sonny. It really, it's okay. I understand. It's a give and take.

We talk about a topic. Hopefully, give some good opinions at the end. I dream about getting groupies. You'll probably actually get them.

So let's just own it. Do it. pervertedpodcast.gmail.com. If you're a horny submissive female that wants to have Sonny sinkertieth into you.

That is, is that hard? And why is that unethical? Did you not just disclose you're looking for someone? This is the type of shit I'm talking about that we have to do.

Oh, it's not unethical. It's not unethical. Well, pervertedpodcast.gmail.com. If you want Sonny Sniz.

If you want to lick Sonny Sniz and call her sir. Yes, I do prefer sir. I really, I really don't like the dearest mistress letters. I prefer.

No, I like being called mommy now. It's just call me mommy. It's kind of funny to me. And honestly, I wouldn't expect anybody to call me anything unless we were discussing an established dynamic.

No, that should be done. That should be done in the first email. First email I expect you to kneel and call me master boogie. Don't laugh.

My name is so not sexy. I have a really hot story called Call Me, sir. I wrote all about it. I bet you do.

Well, you know, maybe that's if people want to get your literature. Where do they go again? I always try to plug you now. That story is actually published in kink weekly right now.

But I also have a couple of novels on Amazon and SonnyLiamain.com. You can get information about all the stuff I'm up to. And speaking of forcing you to write some stuff, let's move into, we haven't done Daddy's Storytime in a while. I had Sonny write something up and then of course I read it.

So we're just going to do that before my Michelle comes in and terrifies anyone. Don't butcher my story. I did. Daddy reads stories.

Little girls love them. Then they get sleepy. That's when he bucks them. The brush cracks beneath her bare feet as she wanders through the woods.

The rocks and brambles cut from time to time, but she prefers to feel the hard earth supporting her. With each step, she leaves tiny traces of blood on the forest floor. A trail being left behind. And this night, this is exactly what she hopes for.

The Lugaru is known to frequent these parts. And while others wouldn't dare to tread here so late in the evening, the stories only serve to make her heart race and thighs slick. As she presses on, she feels her nipples tighten in the crisp autumn air. Skin bare beneath her crimson cloak and the moonlight.

Red allows her mind to dream of ravaging. A loud snap behind her brings a smile to her lips, but she does not look back. Instead, she breaks into a run. Blood pounds in her ears as feet and paws beat the earth, and she feels rather than sees him gaining on her.

Of course, Red could call out for help, or turn and try to fight. But the truth is tonight she wants to be caught. Her breath hitches when she feels the heat of his against her nape and prepares for impact. The air is stolen from her lungs as her small body is slammed into the dirt.

She gasps, struggling for oxygen as she's rolled forcefully onto her back. Bravely, she lifts her gaze to meet the glowing eyes of the monster. Half-man, half-beast. Tonight, under the influence of the full moon, the Lugaru runs his devilishly long tongue from hip to collarbone.

The beast runs his razor claws over her breasts and belly, drawing tiny crimson beads from her fair skin and wimpers from her softly parted lips. Returned to her knees, she cries out as her chest is shoved to the earth, soft petals on display. The Lugaru isn't gentle when he slams his massive cock into her body, this time extracting cries of sweet agony. Red claws the earth beneath her as the beast fucks her violently, sinking his teeth into her shoulder.

Mine, he growls out around her flesh as her core, nearly torn in two, begins to contract around his massive shaft. The beast senses his prey as near detonation. His movements become frenzied now as her small form struggles pin beneath his weight. Tears sting her eyes as pain and pleasure build in a crescendo of sensation.

With wild desire, Red slams her hips backwards to meet those of the monster, flinging them both from the precipice of release. As the Lugaru's hot seed coats her belly and the rays of the moon beat down, Red feels her body begin to transform in subtle ways. While she sprouts no fur, she runs her tongue over slightly sharpened canines, and she knows in her soul that her green eyes are a glow. Huddled in their beds only a few miles away, the townspeople shudder beneath their quilts and begin to pray.

They cling to their lovers and whisper in terror while shrouded in darkness. When the sun rises tomorrow and they dare to gather in the square, they'll swear they heard not one, but two distinct howls in the night. Though China's empanines is the things we find interesting, this is the random topic we are gonna talk about now. You will be talking to me about great balls, crushing balls.

You had the balls in your hand, you've crushed the balls, you'll be great. This is going to be a magical segment. Hello Michelle, how are you doing? I'm doing great.

I don't give trigger warnings, and I'm not going to. Fuck it, I said at the beginning, but there are going to be testicles involved and it might not be pleasant for them. I did send you a picture this week. I don't think I even told the listeners I've been so busy with all this stuff and whatever.

I sent you a cool picture of a thing. I told everyone that I got a giant tooth ripped out of my head a few days ago. You know what? The thing I love about my friends is I got another picture from another friend just a couple of days ago, same thing happened to him, a giant molar ripped out of his head.

It's like I was thinking about you, I thought I sent this picture to you. It's amazing. You're all, everybody loves me with their bloody teeth. Oh, it's my best.

I feel loved. You are loved. I even, what was amazing was that the dentist was just like you because I tell her all the time about you and I go, oh, I got my face. I tell her all the time about you and I go, oh, I got my freaky dental friend.

And she like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, oh, yeah, like when I told you that you told me things had to be built up because my gums are going because I have like 20 missing teeth. I told her that and she's like, oh, your friend was absolutely correct, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, of course she was.

It was fucking mine, Michelle. You don't know who she is, do ya bitch. My dentist is new. She's wonderful.

But it was so funny like after she rips it and she did a good job. She's good. I like her. Plus, she's pretty and she has pretty eyes, but I try not to stalk her with my eyes while she's ripping a giant tooth out of my head.

But what was good was after she rips it out, I swear to God, Michelle, I am not lying. She rips it out and I'm like, I gotta take a picture of it because I don't want to take a picture of it when it's not juicy, right? I'm not going to send that to you. So I get and she just laughs and steps back and I'm taking a picture of the bloody tooth after she rips it out.

And then I go and I'm like, that's mine. And she looks at me and I'm like, I'm keeping that. And she's like, no, you don't want to keep that. And I look at her face and she's looking at the tooth like longingly.

And I go, you collect teeth, don't you? You're just like Michelle. And she looks at it and she looks sad and she's like, yeah, and I go, that's my tooth. You can't have it.

Of course it sounded more like, move my tooth. And she's like, you really want it? And I'm like, yeah, that's my tooth. And she's like, okay, well, I have to clean it.

And I go, you don't have to clean it. Just give it to me, bloody put it in a bag. She's like, no, I have to clean it. And she had like this whole ritual thing that she had to do.

And she looked like Hannibal Lecter. She had to clean it a certain way. And she like disappears with my tooth. And I go, boom, boom, I'm my tooth.

And she had her laughing. But she had to go and like do something. And then comes back and all the blood and guts were off of it. And then is that I don't know what that's all about.

But I thought of you the entire time. And then I had to send you the picture. Thank you. That's awesome.

I love it. I absolutely love it. Yes, I know that feeling of like, but you really don't want this. This is disgusting.

No, no, I want it. I'm like, damn it. So I have to go in the backstock room and pull the tooth out of my pocket that was in the glove and like pretend like, oh, I found it. Oh, thank God.

You're so lucky. It was in the bottom of the trash. Jesus, you guys are all freaking freaks. I'll tell you what though.

I'll tell you what though, my Michelle, because I love you. I might be giving you that tooth. Oh, boogie. I'll put it in there with the other tribute.

You have other tribute teeth that you're dental victims because you do dental play. And that's a whole nother topic that we're going to talk about at some point. And you've talked about it a little bit, but we haven't got into the actual nuts and bolts of dental play. But yeah, so you have tribute teeth and yeah, maybe I'll add the boogie molar to that and it'll be an exceptional thing.

Yay. That makes me very happy. Well, this is the gift. This is all I have to offer.

It's either that or fisting or something. I don't know, but just take the molar. But here to go on to other magical pain, you had you told me that you participated in a ballbusting scene. I did.

It was so much fun and they took quite a lot. I didn't go like ham on them, but I did really good. And they're asking me for more. So I must have done something right.

Okay. Now then, this is a wonderful, wonderful thing for me because I can kind of, we've talked enough about these types of things on the show that I can kind of put my mind to the side and I don't cross my legs as much when we talk about torturing some guys junk as other people do. So, but I want you to walk me through when we think ballbusting. Are you talking about heavy impact on somebody's testicles?

Yes. Okay. Why don't you walk me through some of the activities of that scene? Well, I have this spatula that I got from Walmart that I absolutely love it already because it's silicone.

So, you know, it washes easily, but you know, it's kind of cupped and it cuts perfectly on the balls. So I just kind of like get the cock out of the way and then I just like slap it on the balls. I don't. And then, so my rule of thumb is you let them hang in.

You can smack, smack, smack. You pull them close. Make it look like a brain. You tap, tap, tap.

Oh, wow. So it's a few different sensations then. Yeah. When they're like, looks like a brain, you got them all taunted.

You don't want to hit them too hard just because you can't actually like harm them. We want to hurt, not harm. But when they're just hanging loose, you can kick them a little bit more. So you've kicked balls before.

Did you kick this guy's balls? I did. It was magical. So I had them on all fours and I kicked from behind.

But when you kick someone on the balls, you kick them on the top of the foot, not the point of your foot. So I just kind of like positioned and I had to kind of hold on to something, you know, because I don't want to fall. So, you know, and I just kind of go, I kind of like do like a little tap just to kind of see his reactions. And I go a little bit harder, see his reactions, and I kind of gauge on how much I can kick without him like falling over, you know, in total pain.

Right. But yeah, it was amazing. And then I had him up on his knees and I took that bondage tape and I took his cock and I wrapped it around there and then I wrapped it around his head, kind of like a man keening to get his cock out of his way. And then I just kind of kicked him in from the front too.

So that was really fun. Wow. Now when you're kicking, when you are kicking, like, you know, there's obviously like I'm trying to land a 40 yard field goal at the end of the game kick. Then there's like on side kick where you're just trying to go like 10 yards and bounce it off somebody.

And then there's the tap, tap, tap your cock. So when you get to that level to where you can, you can kind of, you've worked those balls. And now you're you're ready to give your strongest kick about how strong of a kick can you give a set of nuts. Oh, that's hard to describe.

I kick fairly hard. Like get a step back and cock back and then fuck back. Yeah, basically. Oh, wow.

Yeah, I'm like, how do I describe that? I'm like, do I kick a ball like 100 yards? I don't know. Do you get like a running start?

No, I just like rear my leg back and then I make contact and go, that's still a pretty good. And I just, I also make sure that like when I kick, I kind of like push it up a little bit too. You know, oh, wow. Yeah.

So I kick and kick. So now with each kick, what I know you don't have testicles. So this is, I wish we had your victim to kind of give the headspace. But I know you've done this a few times, right?

Oh, yeah. Okay. So now then, of course, you've done that debriefing with your bottoms. What I'm trying to figure out is whenever we talk about ballbusting or kicking balls and stuff like that, you know, there's that instant shock value where the guys are like, but like what I really want to know is what you found out like, what does that do for the bottom?

Like what type of sensation or what type of headspace is that from what he told me? He says he likes the sensation of, you know, the pain that radiates up into the stomach. He likes that. He likes that pain and it kind of puts something to like a submissive type headspace.

Right. It just kind of makes him like he just, he's a masochist, of course. So, but he likes that radiating pain into his stomach. He enjoys it.

So now then from the kicker's point of view, because once again, this is something that's always interesting when you think about the female top kicking a guy in the nuts, is this just your basic sadism that you like to cause pain in general? Or is there something special about kicking the balls? Is, you know, because a lot of guys are like, Oh, this is your man hating moment, you know, that you're just, you know, you're putting the guy down in his place and you're kicking him right in the nuts. Like what's your headspace around this?

My headspace is that my sadism is being fed. I like watching him ride in pain and then ask for more. I'll also like, well kick him. I'm like, and I'll say, you know, I'm like, Oh, excuse me.

What was that? Oh, thank you, Miss Michelle. That's right. Thank you, Miss Michelle.

It was funny. I was playing with one guy and he kind of looked at me after the scene and he was like, you don't hate me. Do you? No.

He's like, yeah, most female pop seem to hate man. I'm like, well, that's very judgmental. But no, for me, it's the sadism and it's the mind fuckery. And at one point, I was like, Hey, are you ready for the big one?

He's like, yeah. And I'm like, I go right one, two, and I was building it up. And then I go three, and then I stomped my foot and I barely touched his balls. And he was just like, I'm like, uh, did he jump though?

Oh, yeah. He's like, and he just like, he was blindfolded. He's looking around all confused. It was great.

That is wonderful. Now then, when so how many kicks can you give on average to a medium bottom of ball crushing? I don't have a really a number. I let them tell me.

So, you know, whenever they like yellow, but I would say at least 10. Wow. That's a lot of kicks to the nuts. Yeah.

Well, then that would lead definitely into the next, which would be what can go wrong with this physiologically, like what can happen inside of a testicle because they are kind of sensitive, nervy areas that have a certain function. Well, you can rupture. You can actually rupture them. So now, of course, when I was a kid, I felt, you know, you rupture your balls on everything, you know, from the jungle gym to swing sets, deflicking it the wrong way when you're putting on your pants or whatever.

And obviously we know that's bad. And I'm sure there's a lot of physiology and we could look that up another time to talk about, you know, what that is. So what type of aftercare do you do on testicles when you're done beating the crap out of them? Well, if it's a pretty heavy scene, I'll have them ice it and then also I'll check in with them.

If they have any bleeding in their urine afterwards, then they need to go to the doctor for sure. Sure. But I generally don't go that hard. And I've never had anyone in his blood before from ball kicking.

So those are the big things. It's like, you know, I said if you for the for that next day and then, you know, just kind of watch for any bleeding or anything like that or any swelling, any like excessive bruising. Well, Michelle, I'm sure some of our listeners have squirmed quite a bit listening to this, but I'm pretty fascinated by it because, you know, I've heard so many people talk about it and joke about it that I'm like, wow, this is really a great opportunity to talk to somebody who does this and get into this. And I'm assuming it's probably not for every bottom because it can be pretty intense.

Yeah, I did have a bunch of people watching and then afterwards one guy was like, you know, I just can't wrap my head around that. He's like, it's just really hurt just watching it. I'm like, well, you know, I go, we can always start out light if you like. He's like, I think about it.

I'm like, well, you know, you never know. At this moment, you might not like it. Look at you. The manipulator.

Well, in an all honesty, when I first started topping and once I first identified as a Dom rather than a switch, I didn't think that I would like CBT at all. I'm like, oh, no, I like the balls. I like to the dick. You know, they're yummy.

And my good friend, Tall and L.A., he's the one who actually showed me and taught me about CBT and stuff like that. And yeah, now it's my jam. I like it. I like it a lot.

Well, goddamn, my Michelle. If someone should like something, it should be the sweet status, my Michelle. Oh, thank you. And I look forward to having you back soon to terrify our audience more.