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EPISODE · May 15, 2026 · 55 MIN

#34 Fibromyalgia and chronic pain management with Ryan Bourdo, Physical Therapist

from Make Visible: Chronic Illness Explored · host Visible with Emily Kate Stephens

STRATEGIES: Physical rehabilitation for chronic pain conditions. If you live with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, EDS or chronic pain, you've likely heard that exercise may help. You've also probably learned, the hard way, that the wrong kind of effort costs you for days afterwards. The truth is that thoughtfully-designed physical therapy strategies can help with quality of life, if the approach is individualised and built around a person's baseline. In this episode physical therapist **Ryan Bourdo** (Oregon Health and Science University, Portland), experienced in caring for people with these conditions, explains how his approach of individualised, patient-led therapy can improve patients' day-to-day lives. Ryan specialises in fibromyalgia, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS), and their co-morbidities, and approaches each patient with time, empathy, and the willingness to listen. He explains how understanding his patient’s life, needs and pain points is the most instrumental part of him being able to help. We also hear from occupational therapist Amy Mooney, who brings over two decades of experience working with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, MCAS, and Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM). Amy runs her own telehealth programme OT4ME and collaborates with the Bateman Horne Center to train healthcare professionals and support patients. Amy Mooney is an occupational therapist with over two decades experience providing care for individuals with conditions such as Fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, MCAS, with a particular focus on Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM). Amy runs her own telehealth programme OT4ME and collaborates extensively with the Bateman Horne Center to educate healthcare professionals and support patients. If you live with fibromyalgia or chronic pain, and want to how understand physical or occupational therapy might help, this episode is for you. In our conversation we explore: The role that simple movement can play in managing chronic pain Why physical therapy should not become an added burden for people already in pain. The importance of listening to patients with energy-limiting conditions How small, simple strategies can help patients see their condition as manageable Creating a low-stress environment What rest actually looks like — and why it's not the same as doing nothing How simplification can unlock the "golden nuggets" of everyday life Through both of these conversations, the same idea shines through - treat patients as individuals. Interested in taking part or sharing feedback on Make Visible?  Please click here. Find it easier to read than listen? Download the transcript here. Make Visible @visible.health [email protected]

If you live with fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, EDS or chronic pain, you may have been told that exercise can help — but also learned that pushing too hard can worsen symptoms. In this episode, physical therapist Ryan Bourdo (Oregon Health & Science University, Portland) explains how individualised, patient-led rehabilitation strategies can support quality of life without becoming an added burden. Ryan specialises in fibromyalgia, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) and related conditions, using a compassionate, listening-first approach to care. We’re also joined by occupational therapist Amy Mooney, founder of OT4ME, who shares insights from more than 20 years working with ME/CFS, Long Covid, EDS, MCAS and Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM). Together, we explore pacing, movement, rest, low-stress rehabilitation, and why treating patients as individuals is essential for meaningful care. Topics include: • Movement and chronic pain management • Why rehabilitation must be tailored to the individual • Listening to patients with energy-limiting conditions • Understanding rest, pacing and Post-Exertional Malaise • Creating sustainable, low-stress therapy strategies • Finding manageable ways to improve daily life makevisible.com @visible.health [email protected]

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