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That's like a way the song goes. It's the way my song goes, Kathy. Now we're going to be talking about your Manass. Is this a segue into that?
Oh, we're not going to be talking about my Manass, Kathy. We're going to be talking about other asses of man's. Aww. That's...
Because I got lots for Potato Me Am. Oh my god. In the realm of Manass. Let's get into it.
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Yeah. Hello and welcome to the Birdie Podcast, the show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky Lifestyle Sex and the human Manass mind. Uh, recording live. He was on cast right in time when I was actually excited about doing the show until I heard Manass.
You are Kathy. I'm Kathy apparently. And I am Kennel Boogie-Kathy. If I'm going to suffer, you're going to suffer right along with me.
That's really what this show is about. This is about mutual suffrage. It's not just woman suffrage or boogie suffrage. We're just going to do this together because, you know, as lonely as I am, there is definitely a limit I find.
And the things that will turn me on, you know, because in the pandemic, you know, the lockdown, of course, being in the car and stuff like that, not having any dates or life, you know, all of a sudden you find that things that didn't turn you on before, they're starting to turn you on. You start questioning yourself, you know, having those little things, you know, maybe some things. Oh, no. But let me tell you something.
What I'm about to talk about isn't one of them. I am still not a fan of the Manass. It's, and I've had lots. Where are you?
Never will be. Well, you know, there's always that chance. You know, I'm not going to say there's not a chance. But like for some reason, the Manass Angel has been trying to bless me in a way that I don't want to be blessed, like literally yesterday, all day.
And I think I might have joked about it on the show before. I think I even took a picture of just the guy's ass. There's this like a guy that always sits in front of me at one of the tables, and he doesn't have underwear. He's like 62 years old.
And literally he, it's just half an ass staring at me for eight hours. No. Eight hours, Kathy. And I literally have to take my laptop bag and position it in a way that I block his fucking janitor crack, which literally spans half the ass.
And it's not sexy. It is not sexy. And then this morning, I'm like, oh, god, damn it. I got to sit in another place.
I can't handle more Manass. And I go to the bathroom at Walmart this morning to pee. And I'm in a urinal stall, and I'm standing there, and I'm having my pee, and there's five urinals. But some weird tall guy stands right next to me.
And I like in the corner of my eye, I see like a mohair cut like from three stooges, like the six foot three guy with a mohair cut. And he's like a bigger guy, and he looks weird as fuck. And I'm like, eh, and I finish. And as I'm walking away, I see that his pants are around his knees, and he is butt naked, peeing into like butters from fucking South Park, if you're into South Park.
He just pulls the pants all the way down. And I'm just like, oh, Kathy, let me tell you, this wasn't like Hemsworth ass. You might be able to go, OK, this guy takes care of himself. That's a good ass.
It's a good ass, Kathy. Oh my god. That's a good ass. This was more like a current Bill Murray ass.
Oh my god. Like just not looking good, Kathy. And I'm like two days in a row. And he looks at me.
I think he was trying to pick up on me. I mean, it seems that way. Because he's like looking at me like, hey, you like this. And I'm like, no, fuck you.
And I fucking walk out. And so that's my potato mayhem. That's my sex life. Wow.
And guys are just throwing their man ass at me. And I just don't know how to catch. I just don't know. Something about hairy man asses really grosses on me.
Oh, they weren't hairy. They were older. So they were nice, smooth, and kind of wrinkly with just that little bit of weird patchy pink. And I get a good look at them.
Why would you get a good look? Well, they're in my face for eight hours. So it's like a train wreck. You've got to fucking look at it.
So you can just lament your life. You're like, Jesus Christ. Oh my god. Well, I can actually understand what you're saying, at least in the beginning, about finding different kinks.
Because I'm lying in bed the other night thinking, well, I'm horny. OK. I just well, masturbate. Actually, it was early morning.
It was very early morning. And my sister and I had just had a small dinner party. And I before to try and get ourselves back into life. So we're not just barricading ourselves and dealing with our stress and trauma.
Well, let's invite some friends over. Needless to say, the kitchen is an absolute nightmare by the time the evening is over. And I thought, oh, I'm just going to clean this up in the morning. I'm not even going to look at it.
Now it's just piles of dishes and food. And I just horrible. So I'm lying in bed thinking the lights coming in through the curtain. And I'm like, let's get to be done.
I'm going to get my little kink on. And maybe I'll do a little masturbating before I get up. Let's see what fantasy I can conjure in my head that's going to get me in the mood. And all I can think of, boogie.
I think you can feel this coming. Are the dishes in the kitchen? And I'm thinking to myself, you masturbated to dishes? Oh, it's worse than that.
I wish that that would have happened. Instead, I abandoned my masturbation and my fantasy because I could not get the dishes out of my head and how I'm going to stack them and what order I'm going to do them first, and how I'm going to put these over here. And then I'm going to start with that. And I'm going to go into the living moment.
And I got so excited at the notion of all this organizing and cleaning that I thought, fuck this. I think I'd rather be doing dishes. Oh, pumpkin. Yeah, it was pretty sad.
Oh, oh, bro. Feel sorry for me, man. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. That hurts me and my loins.
That's like bro loin hurting when you ache for your bro so bad because it's so pathetic. That's like me stuff. That's like boogie level pathetic. I thought, oh my god, I'm going to tell boogie listeners this because that isn't all time low.
I keep saying that. And yet I find a lower low each. OK, OK, OK, go with me on this. Go with me on this.
Is that because maybe you're missing some sort of domestic? I'm trying to just save this. Maybe you're missing some sort of domestic servitude thing where you have a job and your master has given you the job and then you organize and you do it to maybe something like that, maybe? No.
I know you want that to be true boogie. And I wish I could give it to you. But fortunately, I can't. It has absolutely nothing to do with that.
You need to just push through and masturbate. There's got to be a line. There's got to be. I mean, granted, I was interrupted in my masturbatory Korean anal strap on, a girl porn that I was watching last night, like mid-stroke because a crazy man kind of attacked one of the cars in a guy that was sleeping about 50 feet away from me.
Oh my god. Just like, just one of those fucking screamers. It's like, aah! And he's like, right by this guy's car.
And the guy's like, get the fuck away from me. And I'm literally jerking off to Korean girl takes anal strap on from another girl. And I just had to stop because I don't know if there's danger. And then I see the guy walk away.
And then I'm like, is he going to come and start fucking with me? And I'm reaching for my axe. And then because not my axe by meaning my penis. Not your guitar.
I mean, my axe, like I have a hatchet. What hand on the dick? The other on the axe. And I'm just like, this is not happening.
My meanwhile, my porn's just like muffling in a pillow or something just like, oh, I love this. And I'm just like, god damn it. And then he kind of screams and goes by and keeps screaming down the thing. And then I'm like, oh, should I go back to masturbating?
And I'm like, no, because I hear screaming, but I don't know if it's this crazy guy screaming. He's got a bag of tortilla chips. Like he came from Ralph's or something. And then he goes down, but he goes into the park and it's like people walk in the park.
So I don't know if he's going to try to attack someone or whatever. So I get all like, protective. And I'm like, god damn it. And I turn my video off and I go drive into the park to make sure he's not attacking anyone.
But then I saw two of these two giant dudes walking with pit bulls and I'm like, oh, okay, they'll kill him. So I'm going to go back to the car. But by the time I got back, I was more tired than in the mood. So that's a, but I didn't, that sounds more legitimate reason to stop masturbating than fucking dishes, Kathy.
I know even that is a better story than my mind. It's very pathetic. I heard a podcast at gmail.com, just send Kathy and I a bus pass somewhere, just somewhere where there are people that will fuck us. That's just so sad.
It is. Oh, when you've found your love life waiting and you might need some explaining, post your buzzword some fucking advice. Okay, well, Boogie, I somebody actually wrote it and wants our advice on something this time. It was Volka who wrote to us.
And he said, a little responded to my post entitled Daddy Looking for a Little. And we exchanged messages about likes, dislikes and consent. I have not had a daddy little relationship before, so I was being cautious and respectful. Photos and short videos were exchanged.
I thought it was promising. However, the next day in her little voice, she reached out saying that she was asking for permission to meet a guy and essentially get fucked. As we have just had one day of conversation, I told her I had no hold over her. The next day I woke up to five texts with littles outfits and things from Amazon for me to look at.
And an hour later, several messages saying, she needed attention and if I couldn't give it to her, she would look for a new day. This was all in the space of three days. Now I like Hank, but I need some sanity mixed in. I stepped back and stopped responding.
Did I make the right call? Yes. Short answer. And once again, okay, do you wanna go first?
No, you go for it, man. Okay, because I actually have notes. I have notes because this was fun and sad because obviously it's an uncomfortable situation for him and he's there looking to have something online, which of course with the shutdown and just now years of having to navigate how to have relationships with people, a lot of people are going to online, but we have a little more information now. We have perverted podcasts now, we have fat life, we have groups and there's tons of YouTube videos and more information, but this, Kathy, this crashed me so far back to when all I had in Kink was online and it's so different to look back on online play from our position because we've been super blessed.
We're in this city that has all these outlets for information and real time dungeons and clubs where we can go and learn things and we've been to classes, we've taught classes, we've been a part of organizations that are education based and we learn all of these things and it's so easy to look back and go, ah ha ha ha, oh you online people, that's so silly. But I specifically remember being an online person and you didn't know anything. The fact that this guy knew how to talk about likes and dislikes, that wasn't, like where did you learn this? When it was online, where do people learn this?
They have a fantasy in their head and this woman clearly had a very specific fantasy in her head about what she expected from an online daddy and just, I related to her more than I related to him because I kind of, you just think what you think and then it surprises you where you're just like what, you mean all women aren't actually submissive to me, I'd try this, when I got to the lifestyle I was like, oh wow, glad I didn't speak up too much because I would have looked like a complete asshole. So you understand that there's this, you just, there's no information for like the online world. Now there's more, but if you don't know, you kind of just go by what you see in the media, what you have in your head and it's just kind of that ignorance that it's like, well this must be what everyone does. So if you're not gonna do this, like now of course we know, you know, what are the expectations, what is the transaction of our dynamic, what does daddy mean to you, what does little girl mean to me, what types of play are we gonna have, what level of control do I have or wanna give up?
Is this exclusive or is this just fun when we play? Is this role play, are we a character? Like we know all these things from being kind of in the real time, but you don't know that stuff online. Right.
But that was before, right? You're not talking about now, anybody who's doing this stuff now knows better. No, they don't. They think they know better, but you and I have been on Reddit.
We've been on Reddit, if they haven't found FedLife and not just found FedLife, you have to find the groups that talk about this. You have to find the sources of education. You and I can't even get our show on Google. We are constantly, we can't, we're on Patreon, we can't even be searchable on Patreon.
You know, so the information we have found it and we know the places to go, but they really aren't readily available. Right. I mean, I understand what you're saying. I gotta say though, that when I read that, I'm like, that just sounds a bit off.
I mean, it almost sounded, you know, the average person is not under any obligation to educate other people. You can if you want to, or you could just walk away, which is what he did. And frankly, I thought maybe he was feeling, might have felt maybe a little guilty for not doing something. I mean, otherwise why would you ask that I make the right call?
Because you could, if you were that type of person, like Boogie, who's, you're into mentoring and stuff, you might take it upon yourself to educate someone. But the average person is not obligated to do that. When you were dealing with something so unknown, this person is either gravely mistaken and in conjunction with that, so lacking in experience that they don't realize they should do a little bit more research. Right.
Or, well actually I had three options. The second one is they're a little bit nutso. Right. And I'm using that term funnily, even though I probably shouldn't, because there are all kinds of mental issues that people can have that make them behave in ways that are not normal for others.
So she might have something wrong with her. And then finally the third one I thought is, why is she showing him little outfits on Amazon? Is she looking for an actual sugar daddy instead? Right.
So any one of those three is enough to make me walk away, particularly in the old crusty age I'm at now where I've got zero fucks to give for anybody at this point. I've been fucked over enough and I am not in charge of your education. So if you run across someone old and crotchety like me, I will fucking run away from someone like that as fast as I can. And I absolutely agree with you.
You're not obligated to be the mentor, especially if you're looking for something. You know, you're not looking to be somebody's teacher and you kind of want to find someone because a lot of the things that she said and did did come off kind of really flighty and immature and especially so quickly to be like such a complete expectation without that negotiation. You know, that definitely reeks of a lot of immaturity. So in that way I would have probably just left too, but I probably would have left with, you know, some sort of instruction, you know, just you're right, I can't fucking, I can't not go.
Okay, I understand what you're saying here and that you have a need, but no, I'm not your sugar daddy or bamper, you know, so forth. But you know, just what really struck me is how I can't be that judgy because coming from online, even though there's still a lot of information out there, you still have to kind of know how to look for it or even know that you're supposed to. Cause if you just have that fantasy in your head, then you just, you know, humans were kind of dumb and selfish. We're kind of like, oh, this must be how it works.
And then you find out tragically through trial by fire that that's not how it works. And then you're like, oh, well, maybe I should do some research. That was me. That sounds very personal, I was gonna say.
That was me. I mean, from the first, from how I got into the actual real-time lifestyle was I had had some online Dom things. And I wasn't super douchey, but I look back now, it's cringey as fuck. But like even the person that brought me into the lifestyle, which was hilarious because this individual, not only was she already in the lifestyle, but she's also a fucking scientist.
Like she's literally just PhD brilliant, brilliant person who literally you would sit and talk to her and feel like you were in kindergarten. Like she was really smart, but I remember still like in our one of our first or second emails to each other kind of onlineing. I was like, you know, I turned into the protector and I was nice, but I was like, I expect, at the end of that I was like, I expect a response from you. And this is blah, blah, blah, all Domly, whatever.
Like we hadn't negotiated anything, you know that I was her fucking Dom or whatever. And she ripped me about it. And she's like, well, we're not in a dynamic, but I did email you back because you were actually very nice. And I saw that your things that you were saying were very thoughtful and showed concern for what I was doing.
But yeah, that you're a douchey. That's a good example because typically, when you have someone who just is a bit clueless, but otherwise is a good egg, there are signs of that that filter through. And there are things that make you give that person the benefit of the doubt and maybe stick it through a little bit longer than you normally would. I don't see evidence of that here.
When all I see is immaturity or crazy coming through, I tend to walk away very fast. But yeah, there are kind people out there. I used to be one of them who would get people to benefit of the doubt. So them dishes caught your eye.
Hey, the dishes don't yell at me. The dishes don't fuck me over. The dishes just let me wash them and they make me very happy. I just, nothing makes me happier in the morning getting up and being able to clean the dishes and put them in nice, neat rows and dry them.
I'm gonna put them back in. Cathy, come back. What, what, what, what, what, what just happened? You went into your, your bad place.
It was a bad place. You went into your very sad lonely place. It's sad lonely, but very nice. I gotta help myself.
I understand, I understand. And to be honest, to make a parallel, online is very much like stashing dishes. It's very much like, online is very much like stacking dishes because you don't have to deal with the consequences of being with somebody in person. It is a safer thing, just like stacking dishes.
Just like you said, those dishes can't hurt me. And even if somebody does something cray-curate, you can literally just block and move on. You know, so in a sense, it's kind of similar pathetic, but no, but if that's what you have, you know, you have to do your best to communicate. And I think the guy made the right choice to just kind of move on.
Abs to fucking literally. Find somebody on your level is what I say. Just, just watch out for Manass. Oh God, Manass, no, no, no.
Thank you for all the news, sometimes cool, and sometimes fuck up. Let's glory hold the planet right now with the nigma. And now we bring to another exciting episode of a nigma and boogie. Oh yes, boogie, we are here today to talk about some kinky stuff.
I like how yours went like kind of e-gory, you know, like Italian zesty e-gore. It was good, I like saying. I think the intro needs to be kind of like almost noir like horror movie, yeah. Horror movie like our lives, you mean?
Yes, yes, like that. Isn't our life noir enough? None of the wuff? No, it's that day.
It's gonna be that day. A word inventing day. Yes, a nigma, how are you feeling today? I'm doing okay.
You know, I just got out of therapy, which is always a fun, fun, fun time. So, so yeah, it's been an interesting few weeks, but yeah. Well, very good. And so just so we can brush over, because usually I was gonna ask you to tell me about some play you've been doing, and you know, all the shenanigans and fun, but you had said that you were currently reflecting on your play stuff and for your own reasons.
And I gotta respect that, because I've had those times too, where you're like, what am I doing here? What's happening? How do I feel about things? And so I think that's real positive.
So, so I guess we're gonna jump over that. Yeah, it's just, you know, not leaving the scene at all, but they definitely need to reflect on how I've been moving through it, and working on being a better player for the future. So that's, yeah, that's definitely been a lot of my, my kink focus the last few weeks. Well, fantastic.
So we look forward to getting back to your shenanigans and your discussions of that. And, but in the meantime, you have brought us in. In the meantime. You have brought us a magical topic, and I'm gonna give you an insight here in Nigma.
This is a, this is a countable trick that I do. And the trick is, is that I try to read things far enough before we start talking so that I can get angry. I can get but heard. And then I can be like, man, then I type all these angry notes, you know, like this is stupid, or you're just, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
And then I go away for a couple hours. And then I go, what are they really trying to say? And why am I but heard? And then I rethink through things.
Right. I give hopefully a more rational answer to the conundrums that we talk about. And today was, cause it poked me in, in some of my, you know, things that I like or dislike or whatever. And we're all entitled to that.
And so, today you bring an article about fuzzy people. I do indeed. So the article that we're covering again comes from ericales.com. And it is entitled, Is it Unhygienic to have pubes?
A guide to body hair. So, okay. It's time to stop beating around the bush about the social stigma of pubic hair. Ah, ah, ah.
I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm calm. I'm calm.
Yes, you're so calm. A 2016 study reported that 84% of women currently remove at least some of their pubic hair with the rest of the study either how they have removed it in the past or they've gone on out around. Shaving of the pubic region has been around since ancient Egypt with Egyptians seeing pubic hair on Volvo owners as uncivilized. Modern, modern medical, modern medicine doesn't help or modern media, excuse me.
Doesn't help them matter as it often conditions folks to shave or trim as it seems to be the expected based off the media that we all consume. That being said, in the ethical porn world, we are seeing it uptake in performers, letting their hair grow out some. I've definitely seen some where there's a little to a lot. And all that being said, pubic hair does hold some biological medical purposes.
It prevents friction against the skin, it helps reduce sweat around the genital areas, but it also can help reduce the risk of SCIs and other infections because there's that barrier between you and the other person. There's nothing implicitly unhygienic about having pubic hair as long as you regularly clean the area. We talk about that with like the foreskin and stuff like that. The main point of the article is to push acceptance for whatever kind of look you want to have down there.
Okay. Okay, now I read the article a little differently. It seemed a little man-hated to me because some of the language that was subtly dropped because I like to look for subtle cues. And so some of it seemed real man-hated like, you know, does having no hair support sexualization and fetishization of young people, meaning minors, meaning ahead of files, meaning if you like women that have no hair in that region, are you secretly a pedophile and are we supporting that?
Which I reject that because that's not my reasoning. I'm behind it and I am fat enough that I can't see my own junk that I shave completely bald. So I'm not attracted to the 10 year old look of me. I do it for the reasons that I enjoy not having hair.
So that was one thing that kind of stuck out. And then there was, then there was talking that article about this ethical porn that is now coming out that is challenging the societal and gender norms of grooming the genital area, which seemed really judgy because that kind of implies that all porn that is not hairy is somehow unethical. So I got, you know. Well, and I can speak on that a little bit because that's a topic that's come up quite frequently, especially within the LGBT queer communities.
How a lot of quote unquote traditional porn is kind of focused specifically for like those male gays, like lesbian porn, straight porn, like it's all directed towards specifically cis men. The person that's paying the person that's paying the business the most for the entertainment. But that's the thing, there's a lot of studies that there's a lot of people outside of that that actually do enjoy porn. It's just men are the most vocal about it.
Sure, sure. You have sites that are lesbian porn, that's geared towards the things that women have shared that they wanted. And of course, all of the different versions of that are acceptable if there's a market for it in the industry that provides a sexual imagery of pornography in order for the customer who is paying to enjoy what they want to see, which is fine. But I don't understand how that makes the fact that men like what they like and there's businesses that give them the visuals that they like, that that's unethical for me to have an attraction towards what I have an attraction for.
So that's where I kind of get my little butt hurt. But I understand that there are feelings and people have feelings and I absolutely understand man-hating because I hate men too. I happen to be one and I'm not real fond of myself. So I understand these things, but those are the things that kind of poke at me when people say because it's like, okay, are we making these changes?
Are we growing our hair back out because we're trying to get back at somebody? Or because we really feel that this is right for us or is good between us and our partners? Because the whole idea that it's like, well, I'm gonna be like this and if they don't like it, then fuck off, that's absolutely fine. But going to my own personal experience, I shave everything on my body.
I stood in storage naked yesterday. It was not pretty with clippers and I shaved a wig off my ass with clippers because I don't like hair for me. So it's not like some double standard where I'm saying, you have to trim yourself, but I'm gonna be a giant, hairy pig. So I get real personal on those things, but I absolutely do understand that people want to politicize and put their opinions and punishments on people and you have the right to do that.
But I don't accept that for myself. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's only fair. Like I know that I've had, I haven't had a partner had any issues with it, but like I like having my hair, I like having it trimmed, like I don't like having the full bush.
I think that definitely doesn't, it doesn't feel appealing on myself. And so I do groom the hair on a regular basis. So like I understand the, doing it for your own personal self advantage. Sure, absolutely.
And once again, you are, if that is what you're comfortable, I have dated women that are fully hair, legs, armpits, whatever and they're amazing people. And you know, that's, that's mine. I navigated around it. Didn't mean I had to be attracted to it or make up some lie that I was attracted to body hair on my female partners.
But that's my choice. And if that's their choice, and they're like, I like this and I do this for me. And we discussed it. And they said, this is what I want to do for myself.
And I feel good about that. And I accepted that. And I said, okay. And we had some really nice times together.
But in general, I myself remember very specifically as a younger person before I knew anything about personal grooming or anything like that. And I had a number of women gag on my pubic hairs. And that that was a very unsexy thing to see. And it stopped what was going on.
And then I remember gagging on people's pubic hairs. And that was very difficult to navigate. So, so that's when I decided for myself that I want to at least have that area below gag level. You know, and some people are just like, I'm half Sicilian.
So I'm like a frickin' gorilla. You know, so it's like, dude, I don't want to, I don't, you know, I don't want to put that on somebody. And in the same way, it's like, hey, dude, I just want to go eat some pussy. I don't want to go fucking fight in Vietnam.
You know, I don't want to be like jungle warfare. I'm a conscientious objector. I just, you know, right. I just want to be able to go in.
So I think it's okay for people to have their opinions about that. And if people, I just don't like the punishment thing. Right. Yeah, well, and that comes up a lot for, I think that comes, like, we can talk about the hygiene part.
Like some people really like V.O. And they like having that part of the play. But for me, specifically, like, if you, like, I'm good with like, scent of sex, like the scent that comes from like a arousal and all that. But like, if you've been, especially if you're, you're in other regions have been inside jeans all day and we've been like, you know, we've gone to Six Flags and been walking around and it's super hot.
Like, let's have a shower first. Yeah, yeah. And then I'll go because like, for me, like it is very, like I am very sensitive. And so like if the scent is overpowering, then I won't be able to control like my reactions for that.
So you're gag reflex. Yeah, like there's definitely been partners where like, I will start to go there and like, I will, I will get the scent of that and be like, well, I'm just gonna finger them this time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And once again, for me, it's not a double standard. I mean, I literally the majority of time I turn down oral sex because I'm just like, I don't feel good there. You know, I don't, you know, I have a shower, you know, in the proper amount of time, I haven't groomed. I mean, I'm very hypersensitive to the experience that I'm going to force upon a partner.
Right. So I feel for me that, you know, hey, I would like a mutual respect in that. And I don't have a problem. Like there's a lot of people, and I understand it because people have been burned and people have been hurt and people have had horrible relationships.
And I understand standing up for yourself, but it's like, I hear people say, well, I shouldn't have to do anything to make myself more attractive to another person. Right. You're right, you don't, but if I'm gonna do it for you, then I have every right to have an expectation that you'll put in a little effort for me. I don't think there's anything wrong with putting in some effort for someone.
So once again. Or in the other end, like maybe that's just not the partner for you. Like if you don't match up with your interests, it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a thing.
Like, okay, we don't work well together. Like I've done photo shoots with people where we worked together. And it was just like, our modes of doing this don't match up. And so like no harm, no foul, but we probably won't shoot again.
Yeah. And I understand the rejection part because, you know, I've been rejected for being fat. I've been rejected for being ugly. I've been rejected for a number of things.
And that's okay. Nobody's obligated to be with me if they're not attracted to me or into me. They don't have to even explain themselves. They just say, I'm not, I've had some people say a kind of rude, which is funny to reflect on.
But nobody owes me a date and nobody owes it to be attracted to me, but in the same realm, I have that right too. Right. Yeah. To be curable.
We cured rejection, I think. Oh, maybe. Cause I like it's something, there are times though. I mean, I'm not a fan of like, you know, like I said, guerrilla warfare, but there are times, and I like a bush.
I just the sides, you know, that's what's going to get in my mouth. Right. So like I like a bush, I like the trend. I like all sorts of different little styles and whatever.
I go bald because I just don't want to deal with it. I don't, I don't make, plus I'm fat. So I can't see, I can't make a little heart a quarter inch heart. And I personally don't think any woman on this planet wants to see me do that.
I'm pretty, I leave my shirt on just to cover my fat. I am 100% sure that somebody wants to see a little pew part over your dick. I am 100% sure there was somebody on this planet. And if you do, please email us at perforterpodcast.com.
But would I want to be with that person? That. But if they're hot and want to play with your junker, let you play with theirs. Yes, you will.
I will. Can I just draw one with a sharp? Cause I'm going to have to get a mirror and be ambidextrous and like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You make it a date.
You let them do it to you. Oh, that's not going to happen. I don't care how hot you are. You're a switch.
So you're, you know, I've had so many people like, what if she was totally hot, but she wanted to peg you first, I'm like, I don't care if she's hot. That's not how I want to play. Right. I don't care if she's hot and has a million dollars.
I don't want to play the way I don't want to play. And having somebody shave a quarter inch pew part in my fat, whatever that pooch pouch thing is above my wrinkled old dick. I just don't. I like lights down.
I'm a lights down guy now. And this was fun. This was fun. If they want to get a hold of us on perforterpodcast, what do kids do?
Well, as said, they can email us at perforterpodcast.com, or they can find us on social videos. That's Instagram at perforterpodcast. That's Twitter at perforterpodcast. And they can find us on that life.
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I can believe it. They love us. All the mail is starting to come in this time. Jettabean 17.
I just realized that right. I'm such an idiot. Oh my God. losing it boogie.
Jelly Bean rice test says a few episodes ago, you said something about a lot of people discovering their sexuality during lockdown. And for me, at least it has been true. I've come to terms with some traumas, starting communicating my needs and desires. And I started exploring my darker ones in a way that feels safe.
And perverted podcast has been a huge part of that. After the first few episodes, it felt like so much clicked into place. I finally had a framework in which to understand so many of my sexual experiences. Perverted podcast provided me with language to use, made me aware of the community, provided perspectives and education and suggested alternative ways of self educating.
And as someone who has struggled with mental health issues, the discussions of mental health alongside King have been invaluable. I'm so incredibly grateful to everyone involved and for keeping it going. Oh, it's not that I'm going to cry now. Well, Jelly Bean, we are in this mix together.
And it's just like going with our last topic. You know, it's exciting when we find sources of information. And that's one of the things that I'll brag a little. That's one of the things I like about perverted podcast because we're not perfect in any way, she or her.
But we're all kind of working together. It's like, you know, our listeners suggest things for us to talk about. We go look up, you know, it's like kind of a, you know, if you want an expert, you go find an expert. But if you want to learn about a lot of stuff, we all kind of do it together.
Like, does that make sense? Yes, absolutely does. And so it's kind of like a source of information, not just for the listeners, but I mean, the things that I've learned just by studying and writing notes and stuff like that every single week, most of this stuff I would never think about in my crazy ass mind, you know, seven days a week. But because our listeners want to know about these things and they have all these different suggestions and things that they want to know about, it's kind of like that forces you and I to also.
And it's kind of like, yeah, we're the ones talking about it, but we're all kind of doing it together. Oh, yeah, I fully understand being an actual podcast listener myself. The majority of people listen to show they just want to be entertained and listen and be educated. That's great.
That's what we want you there for. But the handful of people who will email us and weigh in and suggest that are invaluable to us because I feel like we were connecting and we're giving them what they want to hear if you feel so excited about something that you're willing to open up your laptop and type in an email and let us know what's going on or ask a question, then that's something that's way, way, way, way on your mind. And we're more than happy to, to help in any, any crazy way that we can. But it always touches me.
It means a lot to me. People email us. After all my love, my passion. Yes, my darling.
I just want you to know I'm going to surprise you. You are the first of something on perverted podcast right now. Oh, I'm excited. What is it?
Well, you know, I couldn't get into the library record and I couldn't get it. Starbucks. There was no parking. So I couldn't get.
So I'm actually hot spotting off my phone, but the place that I'm hot spotting is absolutely a first for perverted podcast. What is it? What is it? I am recording your segments in a cemetery.
Oh, oh, Boogie, you do love me. Seriously. That's like the sweetest thing a guy could ever do for me is take me to a cemetery. We are literally going to talk about a cockworship amongst hundreds and hundreds of dead people in the trees and shades.
It's the only place in the valley that has shade. And I'm like, OK, well, let's try it here. Hello, people. I mean, like, what do these fucks really talk about all day?
You know, you have family members come in and ask them for shit and be like, you know, it's like God, whiny. I mean, I don't know who's next to me. I mean, I'm looking. There's a tombstone.
I can't fucking read, but there's probably some dude that's just like, fuck. Yeah, cockworship. Thank God. Something fucking cool.
I've been laying here for 15 years. Maggots. Am I right? Maggots.
You know, I hate them. But what's even more important than that we're doing a segment around dead people is somebody, not me, got dick recently. Yes, I did get some dick. I like how you just kind of, you know, plane landed into that.
Well, yes. Yes. I'm always hesitant to talk about things like I said, I'll talk about my scenes all day, but talking about my sex life kind of makes me squirm just a little bit. Really?
You never said that? Well, no, I mean, I do it, but it's just like, especially when relationships all new and stuff, it's kind of like, I don't want to dink it. OK, I get, I get, I get, I get, I get you. I think the other thing is, is that you have been so barren as we all have.
I think this is the first time you've actually had sex to talk about on the show. Yeah, because the last relationship I was in, the sex was, let's just leave it politely as complicated. So yeah, technically, this is probably like, let's complicated. So this is probably the first time I've had sex since June of 2021.
So we're going nine months. OK, so good. So then we won't chinks it, but I just want the preferred pod castlers to know did you have a nice time with this? This was the first time you had sex with them.
Yes, yes. This was, it was a very good time for the first time we haven't seen together yet. We're actually going together to a slosh tomorrow and we're going to plan a little mini scene tomorrow. But for our first go around, it was very, very nice.
OK, little dicky dicky in a hooty hooty and yes, and where there are orgasms to be had by all. And some cock worship. Some cock worship. There were multiple orgasms by all.
OK, kind of awesome cock worship. Yes, there was. That's a great first fucking fuck with a partner. Congratulations.
Yes. Look, the dead, the dead people. I don't know how dead people clap, but maybe maybe they just deteriorate a little bit more. But they're all excited for you, too.
What would be awesome if I was suddenly one crawled out of the grave and I'm like, holy shit. And he comes over and he grabs Mike. He's like, good job. That's good.
Because that's just my feeling after this segment that I'm going to have a lot of guys kind of chasing after me anyway, because they're going to be here and we're talking about all the stuff I like to do during cock worship. And they're going to be like, oh, yeah, we must find the path girl. Well, then fuck, let's just get into said topic. Now, then this is a topic that is very interesting to me because even though I am a love God, I am not very well versed on cock worship.
I have my ideas because I don't I'm not super blow job because I just not I mean, I'm like cock worship. That's when you grab someone's head forcibly and then rape their mouth, right? Oh, no, no, that's. That's fucking different things.
So it's not just something you do to get hard and then you fuck the hell out of them. That's not cock worship. So it's a whole another thing. So please educate dumb boogie on what your versions of cock worship are.
Most women, at least women that I know always complain about giving their guys a blow job because it's just like, oh, my mouth gets tired. My lips get dry. My jaw starts to hurt. For me, I absolutely love every minute of it.
For me, I look at it as like a job is something you have to do whether you want to or not, whereas cock worship is something you voluntarily want to do and absolutely love it. I think of it like giving a blow job is give it is like eating a normal everyday dinner. You kind of cook the dinner and you don't really think about it. You just eat it because you need to eat.
Cock worship is more like eating the best steak you've ever had in your life. You lick the plate clean because it's just so good. You make noises while you eat it because it's just so good. You savor every single fight and you don't just focus on the meat, the side dishes that are there too.
It's just like the whole experience is like, oh, my God, it's amazing. OK, so so what you're saying is there's more now what I've heard is that besides it being the greatest meal in the world and something you really want to do that, there's also almost like a trance that you kind of go into when you're in it. Like it's an enveloping thing. It's not just like, oh, yeah, this is fucking hot.
But your abs because I've done that orally on people before where you really like them and you're really connected with them and my mouth is controlling their pussy. And you really get into kind of that connection in it. Is that kind of where you're all? Yeah, I mean, I personally don't go into like a trance like they but me it's just like almost I guess it's like a hyper focused state where it's just like it's a whole attitude where I'm not rushing just to get a guy off and have him come in my mouth.
It's just I'm taking the to my time with the enthusiasm of I'm letting it rest against my lips. I'm rubbing it all over my face. I'm rubbing it all over my breast if I can get down there to savoring every engine every little freckle and every little wrinkle on his cock in his balls. Just kind of the smell of it just kind of sitting there and just taking the whole experience of right now.
This is my cock. It may be attached to him and maybe attached to the guy that I'm really in love with or like but this is my cock for right now and I get to do whatever the hell I want with it. See, I've heard that. I've heard that.
I mean and it's kind of like I think we've talked about that on the show long ago when we've talked about oral sex is that there is kind of an ownership and that's not to be confused with the dynamic that you you know I own this person now because obviously if you're on the submissive end then you're now switching dynamics. If you're and that is a thing there are surely you know female dominance that that suck a guy's dick with ownership the same way I eat pussy with ownership. So there can be a dynamic. I don't think it's necessarily that's what we're talking about but it's that ownership of that part that like you said you're willing to just take a journey and explore that area of the person to see all of the nuances that it has to offer.
Right. You're not switching sides to the slash of your submissive and you're doing this quote unquote top activity. It's you're in control of everything that you do to that penis and you're letting that top or that dominant is letting you have their way with it where it's just basically and you can even do it as even like a punishment or reward where it's just like you can kind of hold your submissive's head like right at your crotch and go how bad you want. You're sitting there trying to lick it and trying to stare at it and go please let me suck on it.
Nope. Nope. Nope. You can't it's just then finally then you know the hand let's go and say okay I can kind of grab at it.
And then you say like Scooby Doo attacking a fucking Scooby snack. It would be terrifying to me by the way. Yeah. Maybe for a minute.
But for me I mean the whole thing about a blowjob is most of the time is how fast can you get somebody off because it's just it's starting to hurt it's starting to change or whatever. Cock worship you could just sit there and kiss on a cock for 10 15 20 minutes just licking it and caressing it with your hands and caressing it with your lips and just sucking on it gently. You don't have to go for the full face fucking motion where it's just you could slide up and down so easily there's even scenes that I've done where even before the scene starts I'll get a nice washcloth and some warm water and wash the cock. That's kind of like a sign of like I'm gonna take care of you now and then go for you know start kissing and caressing it or even getting on top of it and sliding it in for a couple of minutes and then just licking all the juices off and just starting all over again.
You know not getting into orgasm but just getting him to like this is my cock I'm doing what I want with it and the moans that come from the guy that I'm with and just knowing that I'm doing it is such a fucking turn off. Dear hustler. Why chicken chicken chicken chicken. Battle Bob is just like crying.
Cry. Yeah I need to fly her across the pond. She's coming over. I think he's married.
Oh I believe in work. But even I mean like there's been many times that I've actually orgasms from sucking on a cock and cork cork worship and there'll be no manual simulation of any part of my body whatsoever just getting into the headspace of this is my cock I get to suck on it as long as I want. I get to bring him to orgasm is just it's it's it's so. Oh see that is.
See that is kind of trance like I mean obviously if you're able to orgasm without any physical stimulation obviously you have entered into some sort of trance where that what you are doing is stimulating all that arousal in you. I've had people explain things to me and then I'll get into why I and probably a number of men are kind of afraid of cock worship and maybe you can help us navigate that fear. So while I get to the fear first my issue is the reason I don't like a lot of low jobs is because if I don't have a lot of stimulation I'm going to go limp in your hands and twice. I'm going to be like 20 seconds and it's there's and then I'm going to be humiliated because I can't hold an erection while you're trying to make kissy face with the tip of my dick.
So it's kind of like well I don't want that you know I don't I have no. It's you know for me it's like oral sex is like get it stimulated or I'm taking control or like I'm raping your mouth and then I'm going to bend you over but I got to keep that energy going otherwise my head starts spinning and then I just go limp. I've heard women say that if whether it goes limp or not the fact that it goes limp for 10 20 minutes and then you can get it back up hard again or whatever is kind of part of the thing too. So it's not something you should be in your head about if you don't because that's you know most guys just can't stay hard for a fucking hour and a half while someone does a thorough cock worship.
Yeah no I mean but that makes that's the difference between a blowjob and cock worship. Most of the time I probably say over half the time that I'm working on a cock if I'm doing cock worship it's it's limp. I'm just sucking on it and kissing it and it's just the guy might get hard for a few minutes and then it'll back off and get hard for you know and then eventually you know after you know 20 minutes 30 minutes whatever you know however long you know if the guy starts really getting into it then I can finish it off with you know blowjob style or even like you can grab me and go do a full face fucking and say oh fuck this I got enough of it. You know okay so but if it goes limp that doesn't matter during cock worship because the whole thing is you're just sitting there and kissing and loving on that cock and sucking on it doesn't matter if it's hard or not.
See now all of a sudden I feel that there is a large group of male perverted podcast listeners that were having the same conundrums in their head while you were saying all that and being like I never stay hard without that. And now all of a sudden we're like oh oh I'm not obligated to stay hard. Oh well I cannot remember like a full cock worship scene where any of the guys that I've dated I'd say probably 10 guys that stayed hard the entire scene. They would get to be hard the beginning and die down a bit and then they get hard again and then either it would you know I'd finish it off on a blowjob and finish them off or going to a face fucking or going to sex or whatever.
But yeah to stay hard during an entire cock worship scene. I mean I've got people who don't cock worship scenes for 45 minutes for 45 minutes. 45 minutes of the direction is going to be really hard to keep and very painful. Well I mean that was the story I was going to tell.
I had a sort of partner where I had we played once like for an hour in the motorhome and it was horrible. It was awful. But in all the weeks that we spent getting up to that you know she was telling me about this and she kept talking about cock worship and she talked about you know that she once spent an entire night cock worshiping a guy. And literally went to sleep and she had his cock in her mouth the entire night and stayed up the entire night doing that with him like after a little while he was like I'm going to sleep.
And that she was just enraptured in it. Now then she was nuts. The reason the play was horrible. Like we had and when I say horrible it was just I wasn't you know it was a little like an intro play.
And then the next day she literally offered to marry me. Oh. So I could get the insurance and I was like whoa whoa whoa. Stage five clinger.
Yeah. And then she stalked me for like three months and I had to make all the official letters and I'm like no no it's official. Don't she just endless. So I thought well maybe overnight cock worshiping means that you're likely to be fucking insane.
So that was the association I had with it. But now this sounds a lot better. The longest I've ever had like a cock worship scene go is like an hour and that's like kind of off and on like I had one dominant that I had where he had this really weird medical condition where the valve that's in his urethra he wouldn't ejaculate normally he ejaculated in his eyes. That was constantly stuck open.
So he wouldn't ejaculate normally so he could go four or five times and he would actually ejaculate in his bladder. But I would sit there for like I get him off and wait a minute or two and then start up again and then get him off and wait a minute or two and you know by the fourth of the time he's like all right he's shoving me off. So he's so he's so he's now in that did he just not get as sensitive and that's why he could just keep going. No he did get as sensitive but it's just it was just very slightly different because of the whole he would still go through the motions you can see like all the tensing that when a guy ejaculates you know the muscles kind of tends the veins kind of tends and he'd have a full orgasm.
But I mean it was I guess it's kind of tantric where it's like he can have a fourth of fifth one he's like okay I'm done. God damn it. Path girl. The dead have risen from the graves.
At least parts of them. They and I'm sure. Path girl can be found on fat life for the new Path Girl Talk Worship panel up and you can reach out to her. Oh and I'm now being handled by perverted podcast if anybody's looked back.
You are we are and goddamn if you aren't a fucking handful. Okay we're gonna end the show. So this time I'm going to show 352 before we win. What exactly are you implying my good sir?