#37 Where Ritual, Meaning and Belief Meet Science & Secularism with Sasha Sagan

Sasha is a writer, television producer, filmmaker, and editor whose writing on death, history, travel and ritual through a scientific lens have appeared in New York Magazine, O. the Oprah Magazine and elsewhere. She recently released her first book, For Small Creatures Such As We. Our conversation elaborates on the ambiguous space of finding ritual and meaning within a scientific world view. We discuss the limitations of theistic language, how understanding something scientifically doesn't always have to remove awe and wonder, how our post-agricultural lifestyle separates us from a deep connection with nature and biology, the importance of discussing these issues in a respectful, humble and nuanced way and so much more. Sasha's book recommendations: Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors and The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan Find Sasha at SashaSagan.com and on Twitter and Instagram Song featured: "Wait a While" by Leif Vollebekk How to support the show: Rate, review and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes! Support my work on Patreon and get access to bonus episodes & more! Find me on Instagram Get full access to Dirt Road Dispatch at anyakaats.substack.com/subscribe