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#38 A GRIMM Understanding of Retellings

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Content warning for discussion of sexual assault in mythology and romance novels at times: 1:00:58 -1:11:36This is a long one, you sparkly romance nerds. Buckle in! We're diving into Cinderella, Beauty & the Beast, Pride & Prejudice, and Hades & Persephone! If you haven't listened to part one, go click #37 for some information on the different categories of retellings. Questions/Comments/Concerns? Don't forget to email us at [email protected]!Terms:Folktale - a fictional story passed down by generations, generally starting as an oral tradition, and with the purpose of relating a moral or life lesson to the listener.Tale Type - a self-sufficient narrativeMotif - the smallest descriptive unit within the narrative. These motifs combined together create the building blocks that lead us up to a narrativeMyth - a legendary story that usually explains some historical or religious phenomenonLiterature - in this episode, this refers to fictional writings that serve no larger purpose than just to tell a storyTrope - a narrative within the larger literary narrative; a path built of motifs that leads to an understood outcomeThe Aarne-Thompson-Uther classification of folktales - abbreviated to ATU, this is a classification system of tale types and motifs. The ATU groups together multiple tales that represent an independent type which has been documented amongst at least three ethnic groups or over a long time period.Cinderella linksATU Tale Types 510: Persecuted Heroine storiesTale of RhodopsisTale of Ye XianPentamarone by Giambattista Basile "Cenerentola" (1634)Histoires ou contes du temps passé by Charles Perrault "Cendrillon; ou la petite pantoufle du verre" (1697)Aschenputtel by the Brothers Grimm (1812)"The History of Cinderella" (Abilene Public Library)Cinderella Across cultures (ed. by de la Rochère, 2016)"A Girl, A Shoe, A Prince: The Endlessly Evolving Cinderella"(Holmes for NPR, 2015)RetellingsA Kiss at Midnight by Eloisa JamesIf the Shoe Fits by Julia MurphyA Princess in Theory by Alyssa ColeMidnight in the Garden of the Prince by Catherine KeatonRogue Princess by BR MeyersThe Prince and the Dressmaker by Jen WangIf the Boot Fits by Rebekah Weatherspoon Any Duchess Will Do by Tessa DareOne Night with You by Sophie JordanBeauty and the Beast linksATU tale type 425 A-C: The Search for the Enchanted Lost Husband"The Woman Who Married the Snake" from the Panchatantra (1199 CE, possibly as early as 200BCE)"Cupid and Psyche" as written by Lucius Apuleius in The Golden Ass (1st and 2nd c. CE)La Jeune Americaine et les Contes Marins by Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot, Dame de Villeneuve in her work (1740)Magasin des enfants by Jean-Marie le Prince de Beaumont (1756)“Beauty and the Beast; visions and revisions of an old tale” by Betsy Hearne (1991)"Beauty and the Beast, Old And New" (Windling, 2007)"Beauty and the Beast" (Pook Press, 2018a)"7 Variants of Beauty and the Beast Fairy Tales – A Tale as Old as Time" (Pook Press, 2018b)RetellingsA Curse so Dark and Lonely by Brigid KemmererThe Duchess Deal by Tessa Dare Romancing the Duke ALSO by Tessa DareEntreat Me by Grace DravenThe Beast by Katee RobertPride & Prejudice links'"Pride and Prejudice" Jane Austen Society of America""Pride and Prejudice" Remains Timeless and Delightful, More than 200 Years Later" (Rogerson, 2020)"Why are we still so passionate about 'Pride & Prejudice'?" (Donahue, 2013)RetellingsThe Soulmate Equation by Christina LaurenAyesha at Last by Uzma JalaluddinPride, Prejudice and Other Flavors by Sonali DevPride and Premeditation by Tirzah PricePride by Ibi ZoboiUnmarriageable by Soniah KamalThe Bennet Women by Eden Appiah-KubiHades & Persephone linksHomeric Hymn to Demeter"The Story of Hades and Persephone: Rape and Romance" (Warner, 2020)"Hades and Persephone story" (Athens Beyond, 2021)"Persephone: Queen of the Underworld" (Greekmythology.com, 2021)"Homer" (Britannica)"Homerids" (Britannica)"Homerics Hymns 1-3" (Classical Texts Library)"Persephone" (wikipedia)Makowski, John F. “Persephone, Psyche, and the Mother-Maiden Archetype.” The Classical Outlook, vol. 62, no. 3, American Classical League, 1985, pp. 73–78 (jstor)Mylonas, George E. “The Hymn to Demeter.” The Classical Weekly, vol. 38, no. 23, Johns Hopkins University Press, 1945, pp. 180–82 (jstor)Parker, Robert. “The ‘Hymn to Demeter’ and the ‘Homeric Hymns.’” Greece & Rome, vol. 38, no. 1, Cambridge University Press, 1991, pp. 1–17 (jstor)RetellingsNeon Gods by Katee RobertTouch of Darkness by Scarlett St. ClairLore Olympus (vol.1) by Rachel SmytheA Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J Maas Promises and Pomegranates by Sav r. MillerKore by Ambrosia R. HarrisPestilence by Lauren ThelassaThe Power of Hades by Eliza RaineIt Ain’t Me Babe by Tillie COleDeal with the Elf King by Elisa KovaFrom Blood and Ash series and book by Jennifer Lynn Armentrout Punderworld by Linda SejicCirce by Madeleine MillerOther links:"The uses and limitations of the Folklorist's toolkit for fiction" (Lemberg, 2015)"The Evolution of the Disney Princess Franchise: Catching Up and Moving Forward" (Maier, 2016)"Why Romance Will Never Stop Retelling Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast" (Popp, 2021)"Legendary Literary Couples Live on in Countless Retellings" (Cybil, 2019)da Silva, Sara Graça, and Jamshid J Tehrani. “Comparative phylogenetic analyses uncover the ancient roots of Indo-European folktales.” Royal Society open science vol. 3,1 150645. 20 Jan. 2016,Other retellings:Omegaverse retellings Bleeding Red and Sullied Cinders by DE ChapmanThe Plated Prisoner series by Raven Kennedy (King Midas, but Midas isn't endgame)Daughter of the Moon Goddess by Sue Lynn Tan (myth of Chang E)A Spindle Splintered by Alix Harrow (Sleeping Beauty)Anything by Madeleine Miller, Pat Barker, or Jennifer L Saint!#sasquatchexists

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