EPISODE · Jul 8, 2025 · 1H 25M
#38 - Narcissism Expert: The Hidden Dynamics of Narcissism and Empathy | Dr. Sterlin Mosley
from Jeffrey van Leeuwen Podcast · host Jeffrey P. van Leeuwen
Is everyone suddenly a narcissist, or are we misusing the term? Dr. Sterlin Mosley, Professor of Human Relations and author of The Narcissist in You and Everyone Else, dives deep into the misunderstood realms of narcissism and empathy. Through an eye-opening conversation, Sterlin reveals why our culture casually labels selfish behaviors as narcissistic, and why real narcissism goes much deeper, intertwining with empathy. Or rather, the lack of it. In our conversation, you’ll discover: Why modern society sees NARCISSISM as a PERSONALITY TYPE instead of a nuanced SPECTRUM of behaviors. How narcissistic traits form EMOTIONAL ARMOR protecting a hidden, VULNERABLE core. The critical difference between EMPATHY and SYMPATHY, including four surprising types of empathy you never knew existed. Proven STRATEGIES for spotting and dealing with narcissists both at home and at work. How EMPATHY can be developed, and why COGNITIVE EMPATHY may be the key to healthier relationships. Thank you for listening. EPISODE LINKS: Buy Center of the Universe (Book) Buy The Narcissist in You and Everyone Else (Book) By using these links, we earn commission from qualifying purchases. SHOW LINKS: Support the Show on: Patreon Listen to the Podcast on: YouTube | Apple | Spotify Follow us on: X | Reddit | Instagram | LinkedIn OUTLINE: 00:00 Introduction 01:10 Who is Sterlin Mosley? 04:41 The Narcissist Label in Modern Society 08:37 Breaking Down the 27 Types of Narcissists 12:24 How to Identify a Narcissist: Common Misunderstandings 20:11 Strategies for Dealing with Different Narcissists 27:57 Do Narcissists Know They’re Narcissists? 35:49 Healthy Narcissism Explained 39:54 Is Narcissism a Choice? 47:47 Can Narcissism Be Cured or Managed? 52:53 Empathy vs. Sympathy: Clarifying the Differences 58:24 Narcissism, Envy, and Power Dynamics 01:04:11 Understanding Empathy: Definitions and Nuances 01:10:20 Cognitive Empathy and Human Connection 01:19:39 Practical Steps to Develop Your Empathy 01:24:24 Final Thoughts & Outro STERLIN MOSLEY LINKS: Sterlin's LinkedIn Sterlin's Instagram CONTACT LINKS: Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason. This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.
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