38: Why trying hard is a losing strategy for spiritual growth with pastor and author John Ortberg

John Ortberg is a pastor, author, speaker, and now leads Become New, an online ministry for life change and spiritual community. He and Brian talk about how spiritual disciplines fuel personal growth and surrender to God.Links & Episode Notes John Ortberg Become New If You Want to Walk on Water, You've Got to Get Out of the Boat The Life You've Always Wanted: Spiritual Disciplines for Ordinary People John Mark Comer Dallas Willard The Spirit of the Disciplines: Understanding How God Changes Lives The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life In God Celebration of Discipline by Richard J. Foster Invitation to Solitude and Silence by Ruth Haley Barton Steps by John Ortberg Alcoholics Anonymous Why Can't Church Be More Like an AA Meeting? by Stephen R. Haynes Scripture References2 Corinthians 12:9 Made to Advance is a production of Engedi Church and is hosted by Brian Aulick.