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Woo! Hello and welcome to the Eye of the Bladder perverted podcast, the show where we talk about the adventures of Kinky Sex and the human mind. Recording on ZenCasser on this web with a Mount of Wednesday, I'm Paptoral. I am Count Boogie, it's Wet Where You Are?

Yes, it's been raining all day. But that's kind of helping with all the smog that's going around on the East Coast, so it's kind of keeping everything to the ground, so it doesn't look really bad. Isn't that nice? Smog is so wonderful.

Do you remember, like, back in the 70s they used to have smog alerts, like stage smog alerts, and then they did all this work? I'm like, because I always wonder, like, God why I can't hold my breath for more than like 11 seconds, like I would die on any ship. Yeah. Paptoral, I am so excited about this show.

I cannot tell you the level of excitement. Some people may hate me at the end of the show. That is always a fact. But some people may love you more.

Oh really? They may love you more. Just by proxy. When they hate me, you know, it makes you look better.

I'll take it. Good. I'll take it. So tell me, when the Donis Salami entered you since we last talked, you know, like I pictured that 2001 space docking.

Oh, cool. Nah, nah, nah, pinnitrado. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Can I do Boogie now the next time I talk, I'm going to come in my head to this crisis?

That's going to be great. You're going to do missionary. You've got to do it missionary. To where you're going baby, come take me, come take me.

And then he's getting on top of you and he's looking off like serious and shit and you just go. Dad. Dad. Dad.

Fuck me. Bum un bum bum bum found. And fucking take your heels, and hook around, and just yank you at ass and just yank them into you, and go yeah yeah. See how that works?

And then let's talk about it on the next show. I did see a video right before we got on There's a Girl Who, The Band Da Stirbs. The Singer David Schimmckest You've Gonna Wine Man. Yeah.

Yeah, the wah, ah, got. And yeah, the last time she had sex with her boyfriend, I was answering, she went, wah, ah, and I was like, oh my god. So now I'm going to be thinking of 2000. I want to say, so I'll see you next time, Donna.

That's what makes it fun. Yeah, yeah. That's so it was good. You had some good dickin'?

Yes, I had some very good dickin'. Last weekend, actually it was one of those, how the fuck have you not come yet nights? Because I probably got, and I'm, I hate the brag, but I probably got like 20 some odd orgasms over like an hour or so period. Oh, wow.

Yeah, it gets the point where I started in like double digits and I'm like, I'm like ready to, I was almost ready to tap go, dude, I can't. I was so, he was not in. So he wasn't coming? No, no, no, not at all.

Good. And granted, there are times with him that like, we'll go have sex for like three, four minutes and he's like, just bam, he's done. Right. And I'm like, okay, but as the numbers game, oh yeah, I'm way fucking ahead.

Cause there's plenty more nights where it's just like, I'll get like six, seven, eight, and then it'll be like, okay, then he'll come or I'll get like a night, like last Saturday night where it was like, I was up in the twenties and I was just like, I finally get to be said to him, path girl, I've talked about this endlessly on the show. It's like flying. It's just that control because I got, you know, like women are always like, come, come, come, come, and guys are always like, don't come, come, come on, come on, come on, come on. Come on.

But when you get into that zone to where your dick is like, hey, bro, I don't need to come. I'm just having a good time. Fuck as hard as you want. Smack her around.

Let's have a fucking fiesta. It's like, it's the most alive that you can possibly feel as a man because you have control of yourself. You have control of your partner, maybe not a man of dominant, whatever. But it's just, oh, it's the best.

It's the thing to strive for every time. Because then it's like, hang on, I got to curve my, a couple walked by with their baby in a stroller and I'm screaming and my windows are open about fucking. I learned sometimes. Right, right.

So it's, what was I saying? You're talking about like, you start fucking, it's like flying rich just like you get in that zone. Oh yeah, it's awesome. Whatever.

It's awesome. I'm glad you had some good fucking, that is the greatest, the best to strive for. Yes. And so she has lots, because you just feel like a god afterwards.

Yeah. And you just lean there total puddle. I did exactly. And like when I finally come to it's like, you know, you're fucking amazing.

He goes, well, yeah, that was fun for me too. And I'm like, no, you did all the work here. I'm just the puddle on the bed literally. Ah, it's so great.

When they get that little feeling of insecurity and they're like, but you didn't come. And I'm like, I don't need to. Daddy, daddy is fine. Shut the fuck up and be a puddle.

And they're like, OK, I mean, like there's times, like usually when I get to that point where I'm like, why the fuck haven't you come yet? It's basically like, OK, he'll work a little harder and I kind of grunt and bear it. And it's like, OK, then he comes, but it's just like that. That's like a good one.

Bear it. Boy, didn't you just sexy up that fuck right there? But I'm talking about after like 12, 13 orgasm. It's like, OK, I give a yield.

Yield. I can't take it. I'm on a captain. I put down my shield and sword.

You have won the battle. Police for the love of God. Jizz in my snizz. Please just get some coconut milk and fucking splashing down there.

Good. Good. That's it, right? It smells sweet.

Bees will be attracted to us both. You're fine, right? What? Coconut milk attracts bees.

The morning. Well, actually everything attracts bees. I'm in storage and I can't spray air freshener because there's literally like a quarter mile away. There's a bee hive and it's been there for years.

It's been there for years. I can't spray anything. Otherwise bees will just start every day. Every day they have the smell on a fucking drone or whatever that bee is that goes and fucking cruises around looking for shit.

Dude, it's insane. I bought flavored coffee this morning because it was on sale. And I'm like, oh my god, this is going to be great. Buck 25 for a pound of like some fucking chocolatey fucking, you know, whatever.

This is going to be great. And I thought to myself, it's going to attract bees. Sure enough, this afternoon, my door to the storage is closed. There's maybe like little teeny holes for screws or something.

And a bee got inside. And it's fucking buzzing around. I'm like, you came in? It's coffee, you fucking dick.

I had to open the door and fucking shut it out. I always chicks were like that about my dick. Yeah, it'd be nice if it come buzzing around. Be nice.

Hey. Just fucking be all like, hey, can I get in here? Can I get in here? Can I get in here?

Which is funny because that's kind of the fat life topic that we're going to be talking about in a little bit. About how to get in that door. Yes, but I do. That door that we want to get in.

I understand you have shenanigans too. I have not talked to you about it since last time. You went to that play party. Well, I didn't want to talk about it until the show because I was a love god at the last play party that I went to.

I can't. I didn't fucking say a spanking party. But I was pretty much a love god. And let me tell you something.

A bad etiquette, love god. Yeah. Because you know, I have a lot of anxiety. And I'm crazy.

And I'm very excited. And I'm trying not to fuck up. And I haven't been to parties in a long time. And you kind of forget some of those social edicates because you get excited.

And I'm there. And I went in my zone. And I'm like fucking talking to people. And I'm like, yeah, you want to do something by the boogie thing, you know?

My shark. And everything was cool. I didn't do anything horrible. But what I did do at the end, and I'll talk about all the stuff I did in a second.

But what I did do, and I actually, once I became aware of it, I became hideously humiliated and embarrassed. I'm never going back to this party again. I fucking fucked up. I beat myself up.

I was a room hog, and I was loud in this guy's house because I did a tickle scene and a scene. And I was loud, and it was laughing, and obnoxious, and this guy has neighbors. And I kind of hogged the bedroom, even though I played with a couple different people. It's still, there's 20 people at the party.

I was in the room for probably like an hour and a half. Oh. And in a small party, that was kind of dickish. And nobody would, you know, the guy came in eventually and said, OK, get out.

I'm going to use the room. Great. We got jumped up. Fucking got everything.

But that's something I should have thought of before playing with two different people in a row in the same room. Because there's only one like little extra everyone else was playing on the couch and stuff like that. But if you want a room, and so I was holding court in the room, and that's a douchey thing to do. And I got very embarrassed.

But before I realized that I was a douche, I was kind of awesome. Did somebody say something to you about spending so long time? No, I said it. I'm super hyper aware.

And I have no problem apologizing. I've said that on the show multiple times. When I like in the moment, I'll be defensive. Like, whoa, fuck you.

But if I think about it, I'll be like, they're right. I have to go apologize. And I will go and apologize. And so I have this person, the person that runs the park spanky, he's been on the show.

And he's like literally someone I totally admire and look up to. He opens his house to a few people that he can, and he's done it on and off for years. And he's always been really cool. So you don't want to be a dick in someone's house.

And that's not cool. And even though he didn't say anything, I know it because I watch everything that goes on. And he's hosting the party. He didn't really get a lot of play.

And whatever. And then I'm like, oh, I have the room. Maybe he didn't have a chance to get a plug. Whatever.

I beat myself up. But what was cool was the two place things that I did do. Sweet. Because one of them was with the lady I played with before.

And it was a lot of fun. And we talk on the phone every week. We just bullshit and talk about life and stuff like that. So we have a pretty good friendship that we've built.

So when we play, it's a lot of fun. And we're very familiar with each other now. And so it's sexy and gurr. And I'm getting to know her body and stuff like that.

And so that was a lot of fun. But of course, I was there. And I started going to kind of predator mode. And I did my magical trick with another lady that I'd never met.

And I did that magical trick that I tried to tell men about in tops and dominance. I did the magical trick to get her to play. I talked to her. What is this magic you speak of?

It's a crazy trick that if you want to be a top, and you want to be a dominant and a predator, the prey wants you to approach them. So I do that. And sometimes you can do it with a little joke. Like I did that's what I did with her.

Like we had been making eye contact. And I'm like, hey, I need a little finger snappy things. And then I'm going to just throw a joke out. And I started juggling in front of her.

But I had no balls. I just started pretending to juggle. And she just looks at it because she was like 10 feet away on a couch. And she looks at me and I go juggling.

And she's like, oh my god, that's amazing. You're juggling without anything. And I'm like, I can teach you how. And she looks at me and she goes, I would like to learn that.

And I go, good. I'll talk to you later. Done. The door is open.

You now know you're going to have a conversation with somebody, simple, innocent, where it goes you don't know. But do something. You know, initiate a conversation. And then if they play along, then you at least know they'll talk to you.

So I get her a bench. I'm playing with the one and everyone's friendly. And I think they know each other or whatever. And the one girl, the new girl, the juggle girl, was peeking in.

And I'm like, well, come in. We were in aftercare. And I go, are you ready to learn how to juggle? And she's like, yes, I am.

And so I sat with both of them. And I taught two adult women how to juggle imaginary objects. And it was a lot of fun. We were laughing.

We got knives. We started juggling. Because you know, you just know not as much a risk. I cut off imaginary fingers.

And we had a good laugh. And that was the segue into, OK, the other ones, like I'm going to leave so you guys can have a better talk. And so I talked to this one. And she had some health issues that we talked about.

And I'm like, OK, well, what do I need to know? And so I found out that. And what became interesting about this is I had never done, like I thought about it. I've done some of it.

I understand it. I've studied it. I would love to do it. I had never done a tickle torture scene.

I just it's very difficult to find people that are in that in the positive way. Yes, yes. Most people want to kill you. And you put it if you tickle them.

I'm one of them. Yes. But when you find that person, and it's true, because we've talked about that too, where if you tickle someone non-consentually laughter to that sensation, to that tickle response, that is not necessarily means they're happy or having fun. Laughter is a response to tickling, to that sensation.

Because it's very jumpy. And people laugh. It doesn't mean they're enjoying themselves. Or that they want you to continue doing that.

Absolutely. And a lot of people don't understand that. And obviously, a lot of people abuse kids because they're like you're laughing. And then they fucking get climb on top of a kid.

And tickle it till it pees itself. And then they think it's when the kid's crying and laughing. And it's an abuse. Unless somebody is into that sensation.

Because there are certain people that are into, I mean, you would understand this. Do you like jumpy play? What do you mean by jumpy play? Like when someone scares you, smacks the paddle on the table, like it's coming, that tension, that anticipation.

Well, I mean, I tolerate it because there's times like Doc or Donis will like, even Doc when he switches toys sometimes. He'll take a whole kind of pause for a minute. And I can feel him walking behind me and stuff. And then like, I let me with something, you go surprise.

And I'm like, oh, just like, yeah, I'm not into that jumpy play. But it's just like, because it's coming from Doc or Donis, I tolerate it. But yeah, if it was somebody who's doing it over and over again, no, I hate it. OK, that's good to know.

Because there are all levels of that. I mean, some people love the anticipation because that's like a thrill. And then when you get like, have you ever done Violet Wan? If you don't like jumpy play, you probably wouldn't like Violet Wan.

No, Violet Wan right now is on my soft limit list where it's just like, I'd like to try it one day. But somebody skilled because my asshole exosement, and you got to buy the one. And he goes, look, I got to buy the one. And just like zap me.

I'm like, fuck her, Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it's a very tickly, jumpy type of sensation as well. And of course, if you crank it up, it can hurt.

But what is good about it, the people that like that anticipation, is there's a tension that happens in you. Obviously, it's that fight or flight response where you just seize up and you're like, oh shit. And then when it happens, there's all this stuff that releases because you let go and you're like, OK, there are the pain. And now you're in the net.

And so your brain releases a lot of stuff. And when you go back and forth with that, like in play with Violet Wand or things like that, eventually your brain just kind of gives up and says, fuck and eat me. All right, just fucking fine. I, the tiger, fucking eat me.

And then it just keeps releasing that dopamine to relax you, to prepare to be eaten, I guess, in the wild or nature or something. But and people get really high. So people that are in the tickle torture, for some of them, it's very much like that. It's that no, no, no, no, no, no.

And then it's just you keep building and pulling away. Like the majority of what we did, once it got into it, because it started spanky, but she said, oh, I'm really ticklish. And I go, do you like being tickled? Because you've got to ask.

And and she's like, yeah, I kind of do. And I go, OK. And so we start playing regular play with spanky and stuff like that. But then I tickled her.

And her, she jumped off the bed. She put her hand up. And I literally just with a finger took her arm and spun it behind her back. And she then, here's how much she was willing to fight.

One finger, grabbed her hand, put it behind her back. And the other one followed in a submissive fucking go ahead and torture me position. No, please. And I'm like, yeah, yeah.

And I'm like, OK, this is obvious. She likes like no effort, like no effort, like literally just one finger. So yeah, it became this whole like battle of tickling and jumping and fighting. And sometimes she fought.

I mean, this is a full grown woman. She has strength. And there are physical reactions. And I learned this.

Fortunately, I learned this in massage school. Always be ready for the kick. Always. Because when you're massaging someone and you find that injury trigger point, that dude, that foot is coming for you.

It's coming for your nuts. It's coming for your face. It's the blade of the foot. Like people who have never trained in martial arts a day in their life become a fucking ninja when you fucking poke the wrong pain spot.

Like literally, yeah, fucking to kill. And so you learn how to you look where the leg is going. So if they kick, that's not in my path. Right, right.

So I did pretty good for most of it. But there was one moment where I did not do well. I got her feet like we're on a bed, and I'm sitting on the edge of the bed, and she's jumping and flailing and screaming. And I get her feet in like a headlock, both her feet.

And I have her around her ankles, and I'm leaning back, but I'm sitting on the side of the bed, like side saddle. Now then, most of what I was doing in the tickle torture, like she was doing most of it to herself. Like most of that tickle torture play was the anticipation of me going, it's coming. I'm going to fucking fuck your feet up.

And she's literally flailing all over, and I go, God! And she goes, and I'm not even touching her. But then of course, there's the moment where, okay, you can't cry wolf that many times. You gotta fucking follow through.

Here comes the fucking foot tickle. Two feet headlock, I'm on the side of the bed. What I forgot, Path Girl, was that when you have someone's feet and they're lying face down, they have a lot of quadriceps thigh strength to push back on you. Now I have it, I'm not going to get kicked, but I'm going to get a whole woman full of fucking thrust.

When I grab her fucking feet and go, Yeah! And you know what, I wasn't wrong about that. But what I thought is that I forgot to put one foot back to brace for the kick. So I'm just a fat, remember weebles from when we were a kid?

Yes, I love it. Weebles, while I do it so they don't fall down. Yep. Well, this weebole fucking ate shit.

Complete fat fucking lower center of gravity ass on the bed, I fucking went, here it comes. And I went, yeah! I fucking grabbed her feet and she screamed the high pitch and extended her body flat at a thousand miles an hour with every pound PSI of leg pressure. And literally it was slow motion.

I instantly knew I forgot to brace my foot. She, I do not have the leverage to stop this. I am now going backwards and off the bed. And I literally, literally on my ass, just fucking I just went, and I go, here I go.

I fucking do it all the way, put my hand down to stop myself on the floor. And I am now laying on the floor and she looks back like, Ha! And I go, I hope you learned your lesson. Oh!

And she, the brat in her path girl, it was like the proudest moment of her brat life. She had completely kicked a 270 pound man off the bed and onto the floor just by virtue of her tickle expulsion of energy. And so I became just a whole bunch of shit talking and I got her back in and you know, retickle. But that was her big moment for the night that she literally launched a fat guy off the bed in a tickle torture wrestling scene.

But it was a lot of fun. And I wanted to talk about it because it is a fun type of play. And there's so much to it that you have to know about. You really have to gauge the person.

You really have to know the person because so many people are like, maybe they'll take a little bit of anticipation or whatever. But when you get to a certain level of tickling, if they're not into it, they're not enjoying it. And we'll talk about that in the next segment too. But it was a lot of fun and bitch fucking kicked my ass onto the floor.

There was nothing cool. There was no cool I could do. Like I had to. I'm glad you got to have fun though.

Yeah, it was fun though. It was fun though. But I was a room cog and apparently very loud because people put that in the comments. Well, I got really loud at that party.

And I was like, oh my god, that was me. That was me in my torture. That life is the place. Talk about genital torture in some space.

We share our kinky thrills. Put it from around the world. Yeah, but if I gas talk about that life, mama fucker. For your peace of mind, please know that the author of every post we talk about on the show has specifically granted us permission to do so.

Even though they will likely regret it soon after. And then I go, what? I said, yes, you sure. Fuck this guy.

It's coming. What is this dude? All right, let's dig into this. It's a fun post.

Yes, yes. A long post, but it's a wonderful post. This is why I like the name Soul Intimacy. So she's hot.

Oh, yeah. Super hot. Aw, she's hot. I seem to like the all the posts we do, Spanish, red, and some made the ones that we seem to get a lot of hot girls to give us permission.

So it's like, thank you. Yeah. OK, so her part. You're not going to want me much.

Oh, one week and dream. We could we could phone with the mouth. So her post is called, you say you want BDSM play deep intimacy and amazing sex. But are you willing to?

Not that. You say you want amazing sex, but are you willing to spend the time reading books, listening to podcasts, joining programs, and watching videos to learn more? You say you want more sex and you wish your women initiated it more. But are you willing to go home an hour early to do the work so she can feel relaxed and good in her body?

You say you want kinky sex, but are you willing to slow down to a phase that's almost uncomfortable during the Nellis X to activate her parasympathetic nervous system to allow her heart and her soul to feel safe? You say you want her pussy to open up and drip with desire for you. But are you willing to spend the time teasing her whole body and exploring her pussy like it was the first time every time? You say you want to play with her naughty side, her bad girl's like the slut in her.

But are you willing at other times to put your own needs to decide to hold her? When is that time she really needs it? It's easy to say I want this or I want my partner X to do this. But often we don't see how much time or energy love and effort goes into creating those connections and those experiences.

Is it worth it? I think so. What do you think? Is it worth making intimacy, sex, play, and pleasure a priority?

As always, this isn't going to resonate with everyone as everyone's a little different and I want different things. And that's fucking beautiful. Here here, fantastic, amazing job editing this completely away from all the stuff I'm going to bitch about and making it a perfect point that I agree with. Very funny, perfect.

Do I get a go? You get a go star. But when I rant and be a dick, you're going to have to go read this post because it was a long post. And you surely edited the super high points.

So we'll have this posted on our FitLife group so you can read the whole article because it is a great read. And I'll let you go first because I, what you read, I'm on board with 100%. So go ahead and serve her. Yeah, it really is a long post.

And she goes into a lot of different points basically on what an intimate relationship is. And mostly from the female side, obviously, because she's female. But it's just basically, are you willing to invest the time outside of a bedroom to do all the little things that is going to help activate your partner sexually, intimacy-wise, romantic-wise to get what you want? Are you going to sit there and bitch about stuff that you want?

And this is something I struggled with with my ex-husband, where it's just basically like, I don't want to do stuff. If you think I'm just, I'm not going to come home and go, hey, you want to have sex? Could you give me a warm up please? Could you give me a back rub or could we not talk about children?

Can you just set a mood for something? But this is so important to me. And so many points of course hit homewords, just basically like, I want someone to do the work just like she does. And I'm very blessed that Donna's does that work.

And it's just a lot of people just expect this perfect relationship and they don't get it because they don't want to do the work or they start doing the work and they fall to the side and stop. And then it comes forward. I mean, that's a good point that you make, because that's that NRE stuff that we talk about, the new relationship energy. Because when it's like new, it's easy to jump into the hot fantasy role play and sexual.

But then it starts to fade because you have a person. If it's a relationship, if it's a play scene or a lover or whatever, just a play partner, then you're just getting together to have fucking hot sex. That's the job of a play partner. Is you're not there to do all this grunt work for intimacy with your partner.

It's you're having a play scene. But when you have a partner and this is now somebody that you are with or you're living with or you have a long term relationship with, then you have to deal with this human being in order to, my base players fucking chick. This is 30 years ago. She said something, crack me up.

She said, man wants pussy at night. He better start working in the morning. And I thought it was hilarious. And in a lot of cases, but in a lot of cases, very true.

Because so much of a woman's sexuality is tied into her feeling safe, her feeling cared for, her feeling validated. So it's very important to understand if you don't create that environment, then it's going to be very hard. There's trust and connection. The safe environment, everyone has flaws and insecurities that they have to work through.

And the poster talks about that in some of the other sections, that you need to be willing to put in that time to understand, to get to the sexy part, you have to have a human that's in a good head space. Yeah, I'm going to flip it around. I mean, I've always been very guy for instance. But even I've known guys that are in very high pressure, jobs, very high pressure situations.

And it's just they've told their partners or their wives, like, look, when I come home, I need 20 minutes of decompression. Right. Don't talk to me. Just basically acknowledge me.

Like, hey, are you doing? And they go in the bedroom? Or they go over they go? And play videos?

Whatever it is. I need 20 minutes to decompress. And like you said, become human again. Because one of the things biggest pet peeves I have is when somebody, as soon as I walk to the door, hey, I need to go.

But I'm like, no. She's dead. Yeah. I could literally just walk to the door.

Give me a minute to put my stuff down, change clothes. And hi, now I'm human. How can I help you? Sure.

No, I think that's good. And that's something I was going to get to a little bit later when I started having my fun. I'll call it fun because it's fun for me. Oh, God.

But it is true that this goes both ways, that both people need to be worked. It's not just one or the other. And that, I guess, kind of leads to where you left out a lot of stuff. But before we get into my kind of little funny ranty thing, she also had mentioned, one of the points she mentioned, are you willing to understand that during a woman's menstrual cycle, that basically she's going to be a different play partner, that that is going to be something.

And that is almost, there are very few women. I'm kind of a whore. And I've been with a lot of partners. Kind of a whore.

So I literally have my own investigative data scientific research core group that I'm dealing with, which actually falls into the spectrum of something that you would consider valid research evidence. And I can say from my point of view, from the Level Up research, most women have some physiological effect of their play when they go through their menstrual cycle. Some of them are very light. And they get sensitive in certain places in their skin.

Certain sorenesses that happen a lot of times in the lower back. But also, that can be all the way up to, don't touch me with anything. You put feathers on me. This is all sensual play for the next seven days.

No impact whatsoever. And then the mental side, and this is less common than most. Some women, the hormonal does affect them emotionally. Most of them a little bit.

Maybe they get a little bit more sensitive, a little grumpy, maybe a little weepy sometimes. But some can be very extreme. And it's like there's no play. I need to be held.

And you need to walk through these feelings with me. Because even though they're chemically induced by my hormones, I need someone to take care of me. And there's no play that's going to happen there. So we've talked about that on the show before a lot.

But it's really important to mention because a lot of guys really forget that. Like you make a joke out of it. Like, oh my gosh, he's on the rag. But no, there's a whole thing that's really happening.

And everyone's different. So some, it's going to affect them just a little bit. And you adjust. And some, it's going to affect a lot.

And you need to work on that. And I just thought that was important to say. That being said, I agree in this post, this long, Linkley post by this poster about all of the things that we've just talked about. But I will say, she had a very specific, long, and lengthy, and detailed many things that men should be willing to do.

I'm assuming for her that I had to fucking laugh, bro. Like, it got really fucking specific. And I know as a writer that she was, and first off, I'm mostly joking about this. And there's a point at the end.

And she kind of made it at the end of her post. And she's hot. And I know that sometimes pissing off hot women hurts my heart. But here goes.

I understand she was exaggerating to make a specific point that there's more to good working relationships than my personal, pig, sexual man needs. I get that. But she started going off on this list. And it's like, I got a shallow dick.

It kind of cracked me up. She's like talking like, I got to pay for this bitch's massage. I got to send her on retreats and pay for her yoga classes and dance classes, meditate just so she can be clear enough for me to put my dick. I'm supposed to meditate and make sure that my breathing's right so I can regulate my central nervous system, better connect with her.

I got to scrub her in the bath and like candles and throw down rose, but like all this shit, she's fucking same too. And I'm like, bro, I just want to check that likes to fuck. It's a lot of high maintenance, kind of hippie princessy shit. She's got written there.

And yeah, all right. So I'm just saying that's a lot of hoops for some men to jump through. And if you're into that type of romantic holistic stuff, that's great. But if you're not, then you need to admit this type of woman is not for me.

Oh, yeah, definitely. And I can understand reading this post as both a woman. And like I said, I'm very male brain. I've always had male friends and stuff.

There's a lot of things I look at women going, you're acting like a fucking bitch right now. But I could see this almost as like a pot boiling over where it's like, oh, yeah, you want this? Well, how about this? And it's just like just listening off a list of like this, and just like, I can understand that feeling.

Absolutely. And it's, I can understand that feeling, but I really don't think it's a laundry list of I need. ABCD, you know what I need. I know it just came off super fucking like, I'm like, what about me?

Who's gonna, what about me? And you mentioned it. You mentioned it. She didn't.

You mentioned the man. What about his shitty day? What about his stress? What about what are you gonna do for me?

What are you gonna do to put me in the headspace of sex? Because this, the list, and once again, I understand she was exaggerating to make a point, but it just, I kinda, I gotta admit, I start cracking up. I'm like, what about me? And it's okay, everyone is entitled to their needs, their wants and their limits.

And of story there. But not everyone has the same needs, wants or limits. Or the desire to follow everyone's list of shit that they need to get ready for sex, including me. So if you want a low maintenance man or woman that's horny for hot sex most of the time, they do exist.

I've been in many relationships with many of us. Sometimes I'm the one that has to bust my ass to sexually keep up with them. And I'm a pretty horny fucking guy. But everyone is different, so there's no shame in saying.

It doesn't make her any less amazing or valuable as a woman to the person that's into all of the holistic meditation, things, princessy, whatever. You have to understand that not everyone is like that. But the idea of the balance that she's talking about is why I love this post. I think it's an incredible post.

But you don't have to jump through any hoops you don't want to. You just have to understand that to get what you want, you're going to get rejected sometimes on the way to finding the person who likes what you like when you like it. But if you have someone that doesn't have all that super high horny 24 hours a day sex drive as a woman, you have to really prepare them for that. And be something yourself.

You have to be able to be like, what am I worth? Am I turning this person on? And that's what the parts of the post that I really fucking love. I mean, if you boil it down to like one sentence, like if you want something to do the work, and that's on both sides of the relationship.

And I've known women through my life, where my life I need to be that's and he needs to drive this car. And he's just like, for long, he wants to check all the boxes, flop that. And then again, those women I look at them, like, you're gonna be alone for the rest of your fucking life. And it's just, are there things that my guy partners do that may be annoy me?

Or are there things I wish they would do more often? And I'll kind of go, hey, this is kind of important to me. So could you please remember? And I'll discuss it, but there are certain things that they'll work on.

And there are certain things that it's just, in the gist of their day, they can't remember everything. And I had to just let it go. But as long as someone is consistently doing the work with me, and on the flip side of that, what am I doing as the woman? To basically, I'm very conscious of when I go out with Don is most of the time he's like, oh, you dressed up, I'm like, because I'm on your arm, I'm representing our relationship.

I want to look nice. I go with King Fargh, I look nice. And I want him to be proud of me, and I want him to have people look at us and kind of go, oh, she's kind of cute. I see what he sees in her.

And it's just like, and then again, all the stuff I do as a submissive cooking dinner, taking care of stuff, all of the things that, the little things that I do, I'm putting the work in so that way later, I'll get something back out of it. I got an amazing weekend last weekend because I did the stuff where I cooked dinner and enjoyed all the stuff that we normally do. And it's just I get stuff back out of it. But I'm putting in the work first.

If I would expect him all the time to be doing all that work, that's freaking selfish. I agree, it's two-way street. And I will say, and I know this is a whole other topic, and I'm talking to the men's skis here, talking to the men's skis, that there is an entire gold digging-horror, high demand, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it sounds, there's a knee-jerk reaction that it's bullshit, but I also wanna add in for the benefit of some of the women that have gotten to that point that there's a reason for it.

That after you receive nothing from a man, and he puts in no effort on you, and he doesn't care about your feelings, he doesn't validate you, he's not concerned about you as a human being, he treats you like a thing, that is how you create gold digging-horse. Because they say, he doesn't give me anything I need, I'm at least gonna get a fucking piece of jewelry out of him. He doesn't create, he doesn't do anything that makes me happy or cares about me as a personal, he treats me as a transaction, so I'm gonna treat him as a transaction. So, gold digging-the mentality of a woman saying, I wanna man to pay for this and do this, and buy me this and that, is a direct response of the negative programming that a lot of men have dumped into women.

It's a-it's because- Because I have found, as a fat janitor with partial erectile dysfunction, the list of fucking shit about me that is not hot, attractive, or even stable, I have had amazing women in my life that never asked me for a penny. Because I worked hard to validate them as human beings. And if you do that work, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't be stable and have a job and be able to pay for your things, and you can't have a relationship and buy a house together if you guys aren't both working and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm not talking about that. But when it becomes so transactional that people are like, you're gonna do this, and you're gonna do this, and you're gonna do this, you need to look at yourself and say, what am I offering this person of any value that all of a sudden now they have this giant fucking laundry list of shit that I gotta jump through?

And in that sense, I completely agree with the giant list of demands, because it's a direct sign that the guy's not giving anything. But if you are giving stuff, and they still have the laundry list, I'm fucking out, fuck that shit. Yeah, and something that kind of, I didn't think about previously, but I thought about it when you started talking about that. If all that work is one-sided, and that person you put in the work into isn't responding, that creates a lot of resentment, that creates a lot of animosity, and it may even lead to thoughts of, you know what, fuck this, I'm putting on all this work and get anything out of it, I'm gonna find somebody else to put the work into, and that's you start leading into cheating, and thoughts about cheating, and things like that.

And a lot of people that I've known who've cheated in the partner or broke up in their partner, will basically say, well, I did all this, and I got no response. Yeah, and that's how it should be. Why would you be in a relationship where you're giving and nobody's returning? That's stupid.

It may not have to all be rose petals and fucking yoga mats and shit. No, but at the same time, I've told Donis, and I've told pretty much any guy that I've dated, that if there's something specific you need, even if it's something a little stupid, like one of my previous Donis likes to bring coffee in bed. He could make the coffee himself, he knows what the coffee cup says, but just the act of me bringing in the cup of coffee was an act of service, and that meant so much to him, that he didn't have to get out of bed to get the coffee. But if I stop bringing him the coffee, and basically said you don't fucking coffee, he would just get out of it, you know, just might fall over, and just basically be like, what the fuck am I doing here?

Man needs coffee. Man needs his coffee, and a sandwich. Did I say, did you hear me go full man? I just want to talk, most of my, most actually even Donis, like I, you know, first things we get up in the morning is like I'm making coffee, and it's just, it's coffee's my love, which is- That is very nice, and it's very nice, and it goes both ways.

I used to make the girls pancakes, and I would wait for, they would come in, we, you know, rub in their eyes, and just to see daddy made pancakes, and sometimes bacon, and whatever, and then once bacon came into the mix, it became evil, and you've never seen like cute women, like turn into carnivorous fucking psychopaths until they smell bacon, and then they just come in. Ah, where is it? It's not done, it's burning hot. Mew was such a bacon freak that she couldn't even wait, and I'm like, I would have to hold it away from her and go sit down, get it.

I mean, I'll give me the fucking bacon. It's Bernie, you will burn your face. Fucking bacon, but yeah, do nice things, and work together with your partners. It's great post.

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It takes a lot of risk to let a couple of idiots fucking chew up your shit and interpret, or sometimes misinterpret your points of view that you had intention for about your post. And here is another song of magic that I write just to annoy you. And get groupied one day, Bathrill. One day, some girl's gonna actually be in Los Angeles and go, you put in the effort musically, I'm gonna fuck you.

It's gonna happen. They probably won't happen after this song though. These boys and arrows lying over me. I shield this broken and I'm on my knees.

It's only time till I'm in your sight. Invite me in with you to spend the night. Whoa, I tried, I lied, I cried. Ignore the scars you made so deep inside.

But like a demon, you could smell the blood. Which is the kiss you knew I'd fall in love. I'm so stupid, I'm so stupid. This happens every fucking time I should get used to it.

I'm so stupid, I'm so stupid again. The light and that it looks so warm. Instead of this being shangrillah, you ate my soul and then you laughed and laughed. Whoa, I tried, I lied, I cried.

I shook the box that had a bond inside. I knew the engine wouldn't end in place. This open grave you hid behind the kiss. I'm so stupid, I'm so stupid.

This happens every fucking time I should get used to it. I'm so stupid, I'm so stupid again. That it's wrong, wrong. This iron makes it so you can't be wise.

I hit my head, there were so many signs. It's like a razor in an ice cream cone. You taste the shoulder then you die alone. Whoa, I tried, I lied, I cried.

I tried to stop a train with a wall of pride. If you play with crazy creatures, you get joined a bit. But it's had to suffer just because you miss a kiss. I'm so stupid, I'm so stupid.

This happens every time I should get fucking used to it. I'm so stupid, I'm so stupid again.