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EPISODE · Dec 10, 2025 · 39 MIN

384I_Rutger de Graaf, Co-Founder and Managing Director of Blue21 Group

from What is The Future for Cities? · host Fanni Melles

"The water [and floating cities] are an opportunity to break through the past lock-ins [traditional infrastructure]."Are you interested in floating cities? What do you think about the symbiosis between floating and coastal cities? How can we enhance affordability with floating cities? Interview with Rutger de Graaf, Co-Founder and Managing Director of Blue21 Group. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, floating cities, affordability, permitting, industry opportunities in floating cities, and many more.Rutger de Graaf envisions cities rising with the water, turning climate threats into opportunities for resilient, regenerative floating communities. With 20 years of experience, he leads Blue21 for project delivery, Blue Revolution Foundation for global awareness, and Floating Future for applied research - including the world's largest program on floating solutions with 44 partners and €5.3M funding. He designs and delivers iconic projects like floating pavilions in Rotterdam and housing in Delft, while advising Dutch governments and international clients. Bridging ecology, policy, technology, and business, Rutger ensures solutions are technically robust, socially resilient, and environmentally regenerative.Learn more about Rutger de Graaf through these links:Rutger de Graaf on LinkedIn@degraaf_e as Rutger de Graaf on XRutger de Graaf on Google ScholarBlue21 websiteBlue21 on LinkedIn@Blue21Float as Blue21 on XConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.190 - Interview with Adrian McGregor about cities being part of natureNo.214 - Interview with Anders Sandberg about consecutive disastersNo.314 - Interview with Andrew Vass about nuclear powerNo.383R - Potential floating urban development for coastal citiesWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WTF4Cities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠wtf4cities.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ website where the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shownotes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Descript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ assistance (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠affiliate link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠).Music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lesfm ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pixabay⁠

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