EPISODE · Feb 6, 2026 · 57 MIN
385: Polycrisis, Collapse, Rebirth: Is Regenerative Economics Inevitable? —w/ Eugene Kirpichov, Work on Climate
from Reversing Climate Change · host Carbon Removal Strategies LLC
Are we going to figure out how to get along on a highly stressed planet? Or are we unable to break the patterns that have gotten us here in the first place? Are we too hard-nosed or too woo? A secret third thing?!Today's show features Eugene Kirpichov, founder of Work on Climate, a very popular climate community built to help people transition into climate work. But the longer Eugene stared at the nested set of problems humanity is facing, it no longer seemed like a simple issue of employment and greenhouse gases. In fact, it's kind of everything.Daniel Schmachtenberger's work on risk and game theory led Eugene to regenerative economics and an attempt to create a world where economic activity gives more than it takes, and where we aren't constantly lurching from one crisis to the next.This Episode's SponsorsPhilip Lee LLP: legal resources for carbon removal buyers and suppliersListen to the RCC episode with Ryan Covington from Philip Lee LLPRainbow: a developer-centric carbon removal registry "Why carbon markets need field engineers, not just scientists" on Rainbow"What scientists actually do in carbon removal" on rosskenyon.comResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeSubscribe to the Reversing Climate Change SubstackEugene's LinkedIn post which inspired the showDaniel SchmachtenbergerWork on ClimateThinking in Systems: A Primer by Donella Meadows"364: Lowering the Onion into Hell: Strategic Realism vs. Christian Pacifism" on Reversing Climate Change"Peter Thiel and the Antichrist" by Ross Douthat at The New York Times
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Are we going to figure out how to get along on a highly stressed planet? Or are we unable to break the patterns that have gotten us here in the first place? Are we too hard-nosed or too woo? A secret third thing?!Today's show features Eugene Kirpichov, founder of Work on Climate, a very popular climate community built to help people transition into climate work. But the longer Eugene stared at the nested set of problems humanity is facing, it no longer seemed like a simple issue of employment and greenhouse gases. In fact, it's kind of everything.Daniel Schmachtenberger's work on risk and game theory led Eugene to regenerative economics and an attempt to create a world where economic activity gives more than it takes, and where we aren't constantly lurching from one crisis to the next.This Episode's SponsorsPhilip Lee LLP: legal resources for carbon removal buyers and suppliersListen to the RCC episode with Ryan Covington from Philip Lee LLPRainbow: a developer-centric carbon removal registry "Why carbon markets need field engineers, not just scientists" on Rainbow"What scientists actually do in carbon removal" on rosskenyon.comResourcesBecome a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate ChangeSubscribe to the Reversing Climate Change SubstackEugene's LinkedIn post which inspired the showDaniel SchmachtenbergerWork on ClimateThinking in Systems: A Primer by Donella Meadows"364: Lowering the Onion into Hell: Strategic Realism vs. Christian Pacifism" on Reversing Climate Change"Peter Thiel and the Antichrist" by Ross Douthat at The New York Times
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