EPISODE · Feb 4, 2026 · 42 MIN
39. Building On My Own Terms with Robert Lai
from Before We Get There · host Nicholas Braman
In this episode of Before We Get There, host Nicholas Braman converses with Robert Lai, founder of Kaliber Performance Marketing Agency and leader of the APAC Marketers community. They delve into Robert's journey through various global markets, the startup challenges he faced, and the transformative impact of fatherhood on his professional outlook. Robert emphasizes the importance of building a robust company culture based on clear values and how he pivoted his networking approach to hosting events, thus accelerating relationship-building. They also discuss the significance of balancing commercial success with personal values and the mission to attract top talent and clients that align with their ethos. The episode offers insights on overcoming insecurities, leveraging both positive and negative energy for growth, and making strategic decisions to foster success and well-being in business and life. Robert's links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertjlai/ Kaliber: https://kaliber.asia/ APAC Marketers: https://apacmarketers.com/ Podcast links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2h9gsrWKH9C1KY1OzR12kr?si=2a4d19970632465f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/before-we-get-there/id1775182252 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beforewegettherepodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nicholasbraman Website: https://nicholasbraman.com/podcast 00:00 Meet Robert Lai: Founder of Kaliber 02:57 Challenges and Lessons in Business 06:21 Cultural Differences in Work Environments 10:49 Firing Clients and Building Team Culture 16:54 Overcoming Personal and Professional Challenges 22:52 Networking vs. Hosting 27:40 Volunteering and Community Building 33:06 Fatherhood and Priorities 37:01 Future Goals and Aspirations 40:42 Where to Find Rob and Kaliber
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