We could, we could off, we will, see? Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, welcome to the old talk car podcast. How? Well, how you going?
Was it still starting to rain drive up? No, no. No, no. No, no.
No. I did the school around this morning and I saw him on the street in the rain drive up. It was moving. Oh, I thought you were going to stop it.
I saw him on the street. No, no, no, no, no. It was moving, I was behind him. Who?
Was he still there on the afternoon? I don't know, he got under the afternoon, right? Was it the message saying he's still doing pick ups? So, I don't know, was he pushing the rain drive up?
No, no, no, no. It was moving on its own. It wasn't being carried, it wasn't on a flat bed. So, I saw it today, it was working.
You just heard in the background there, there are the ladies' boys here. Good idea. Back after a long time. I heard this.
Yes, yes. The ladies' boys. They're all back to pick up a light. You can like it.
And wheel the wheelie ones. On the back of a rain drive up. And today's guess we got Tom from Tom's all-out body. Good day everyone.
Great Tom. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for the fun.
We'll talk about pal being today. Right, how long have you been doing it? Um, fair, well, probably, what, 30, 35 years. That log.
Yeah, that log. Yeah, that's real. Just realise it. Oh.
So, you said I was like a young whoapistne person, apprentice? Well, I'm not the youngest one in this crowd. No, you're the youngest one. The kind of the school.
Yeah. He had his previous lips signed by his book. How does that make the bags as he carries them? Does he?
No, no, no. He's already smolished. He's already smolished. We've got to get him home before dark.
Yes. What's the person on his back that says, don't talk? No, don't talk. No, don't talk.
No, don't talk. No, don't talk. You're on a start when I was school. We're going to have school.
Yes. And I mean, 35 years is a game changed. A lot. A hell of a lot.
A hell of a lot. A hell of a hell. I mean, a car crashes. It's got panel damage.
You take it off and go back on the way you go. Well, the funny thing is we're still getting paid the same money. We got paid back. Back there.
Back there. Now, things have changed in a big way. A hell of a lot. Right.
So we start from the beginning? Or has he like, okay, well, if he's driving around, he hasn't had six shops everywhere anymore, do he? Right. They're all gone.
Collision repair centers. Yeah, that's right. You've got the centers now. There's no more little shops or going on the road anymore.
It's all changed. And it's changing more. Apart from this choice of repair happening now. It's through insurance companies.
You can't just go to anyone you want. You need to pay extra to get that privilege of going to who you want. And they don't tell you that, trail. No, they don't tell you that.
They kicked out a secret. Yeah. And then trying to change it around after you've had an accident. It was too late.
You can do it. We probably have one a day that we try to turn over. And it usually works. It's just a matter of standing aground and having, you know.
So the change is your saying is more the way the shop you stretch it rather than the actual job itself. Yeah, the jobs virtue the same except for technology as in spray booths from back then. Pulling gear and a lot of electronics. Oh, shit.
So when you pull off the bottom, pull off the guard, there's sensors there. No, you've got sensors in a lot of the mercs, Lexuses that the rear hinges on the bottom. If you say you have a front impact, if you run someone over, the back of the bottom flips up. What?
Yeah. Honestly, they've got these little. If I run someone over and Alexis. The bottom flip.
Oh, the pedestrian thing. No, but it's not going to come through the wind frame. That's right. It's like keeping me the engine there.
No, no, no. It's like going to rip up like that. I don't roll into the glass. I'm not exactly sure.
But it snaps the body hinges and brings them up about, you know, what, 27 metres? Yeah. The back of the bottom. And that stops a bit of the biggest.
I'll send them up over the wings. You know, next time I'm on this show, I'll definitely wind out that reason. But yeah. We're just going to go out.
So I'm going back to the bottom. We should go out and test it. Just go back to the bottom. Just go back to the bottom.
We'll just get one up a district. It's all right. We'll see if I'll ever go over the windscreen or through the windscreen. So the bottom is still going up.
The bottom is going to be the bottom of the ground. So we send them in the chair. Dan's going to stand on the corner and say, run. I know.
I know. It's going to be on the other corner. Call Toby. Oh, let's have the hard choice of repair.
Yeah. It's not going to be on the other corner. No, the hard choice of repair. Oh, that's not going to be on the other corner.
I always check before I play for mine, Sheron and I get the company to use in which box is the ticket. Yeah, it costs more. But at least you know someone, you know, who's fixing a car or your wife's car. Depends on who does the damage.
I've always... I've always avoided using the preferred repair and stuff no matter who they try to. But they make it tempting. That's right.
Because the roof looked... Wait, for every authorised repair, no matter who does it, it is authorised for life. That's right. No matter who.
They might not tell you that like they're advertising the out, you know, our repair is in sauferage. It doesn't matter if it's authorised by them, it could be job-laying down the road. It's guaranteed for life. Yeah.
They said to me, everything's getting PDR. And once the car was there, because I said we're going to PDR, I think we're not painting the roof. Right? Everything's getting PDR.
Everything's getting PDR. It makes it easy for me to form. That's all I literally go like, that's it. Then they'll get the phone call.
Go to replace the phone. Yeah. You just told me you're going to PDR, everything. Now there's painting balls.
Yeah, this whole thing is keeping you happy. Yeah. You're happy until you've got the fake over by then, it's too late. Yeah.
I said, I was going to get paid, I'm taking it to my room here. So you're going to get a supplier that you should in this company's two to keep it in the house? It's all to keep the cost. Everything's going to cost.
Look, here's one for you. NROMAE. We can't say NROMAE. Yeah.
Had panel shops, what, 25 years ago? Yeah. They had their own shops. Yeah.
And then they shut them down. For his opinion, they were making money. Okay. Obviously.
So then, our Suncorp who owned all the rest of it. Double A, yeah. And their shops, what they've got now. And NROMAE again, or, you know, AI.
Why don't you? Yeah. Open up shops. And now I believe that Suncorp are selling some of their shops.
Why? Because they can't make money. So why don't they just stick to insurance? I mean, there's enough competition out there.
So I've come to you. I've came through my insurance company. You're going to do a quite on assessment on the damage. Aren't you going to be competitive to get the job?
Yeah. Look, Suncorp, double A, my had the best method before. They had assessment centers to drive your car. They never had free panel business coming out there.
Quite on it. And whoever's the cheapest got the job. OK. But it was fair and like, it was pretty fair.
As much as they all liked it, it was better than it is now. And the same with NROMAE. NROMAE went to a point where they had it online, which was a brilliant thing. Right?
They had assessment center. You drive your car there. Sessent took photos of it all. They put it online.
Yeah. And then you were before it. And you were a bit for it. But the beauty was, if you had no work that week, you might quote it a little bit cheaper.
But just keep your guys happy. If you had too much work, quite a high. It's spanked your way. Yeah.
You know what I mean? And if you got it, if you didn't, well, someone else didn't have work on it. And it was a great system. Then they got on change it.
They had two insurance companies, like giants, had it worked out. And then they changed it. What do you reckon they changed it? Because I had some.
Because every four years, whatever, a new CEO or whatever comes to it. And they got brilliant ideas. Someone's talking about two cents. Yeah.
And they changed it. Yeah. They come up, they came up with a great thing. And both insurance companies and then they demolished it.
Do you have like an industry body where you can then talk to insurance companies? Yeah. They have to give a shit. What?
They've got like what they want. They do things to help. But the whole thing is legislation. It's going through government, I believe, to change those like all its anti-steering laws.
Right. Because really, when you think about insurance companies steering you to go to the government. The government's for a criminal competition. Yeah.
But the government's trying to stop that. Or we are. There's meetings about it and all that. But you know what?
It's. Have you got enough work out there? There is. Yeah.
There's a lot of work. A lot of work. If you know the right people, if you know. But like I said, all these little shops have closed down.
So there's got to be more work out there. Might as saying that. Has it right? I was going to ask you that.
It makes a big difference. So is it right? Please work. So is it right?
Look, I remember even that. Have everyone at Hildes that first thing. It's got to be still a little bit of a struggle. Yeah.
And it'll be right out. So if you have this board of classics, we've got to be saying like, if you haven't got work, something wrong. Yeah. But it's just too weather dependent.
If it pisses down, you'll guarantee. It's too cold. Even though all the new cars have got raking that stops. It's still a change is everything.
It's still good. It's still good. Yeah. It's a change is people say.
It's because it doesn't rain all the time. You know what I'm saying? As soon as it rains, people work still. Yes, they're late mode.
Not only that, but then they're not a rubber and oil that's on the road. If it rains only, it doesn't wash away. And it turns into like little barbs. And you're really skilin' the road.
Well, the worst is, and everyone knows, when it's speech. When it's just speeding raining, if you get a downpour within 60 seconds or so, there's enough water on the road that the two guys are actually working the way they're supposed to water. But if you get like a sun shower and it spits the bill out of half-wall day, but you're on an ice rink now. It doesn't matter what times you're not.
Right? So all of a sudden, you're, if you're on the m5, because you sit there and you wonder, how the fuck did you have an accident in the straight morning? Well, that's because you're doing 100. It probably should've been doing 70 now.
Well, you're on your phone. Or you're on your phone. Or you're on the phone. And then at that, which point, doesn't matter what speed you were doing.
And the worst thing is, you get it. Robin, I think there's a lot more people on the roads. Yeah, there's an accident. Some of the reason.
Well, how often is it? You're flying down the freeway doing 100, and all of a sudden, you've got to jump on it to stop. Imagine that in the right? Yeah.
And that's a lot more in the rain, because there's a lot more things happening. It's got a safe distance. Yeah, I was taught the first thing. All three second.
Right? Which was just say, one, one thousand, two, one thousand, three, one thousand. There's your freestyle. So I was taught the two Mississippi.
Well, one Mississippi. No, two. But Saturday on the end, five, it was bumping up up up for more bank out of you. Like two.
To the fire. And seven. No. No.
Just not a good one. You know what it was? Three cars had a minor big old one, right? Was it more bank out of you?
And everyone was basically stopping to a crawl. Yeah. Just a little rough. And they came to the front of the corner.
But the front of the corner. No, the front of the corner. No, the front of the corner. Oh, sorry.
Sorry. You got this. What's everywhere? As soon as people see them now, they're right back.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's something wrong with that, really.
That law about the slow down 40-tays. Not on the freestyle. I think it's all the big refusing on the rule with it. Because apparently it's only in the direction they are.
Correct. Both directions, isn't it? No, no. On a freeway, it's only in the direction they are.
Yeah. On a road. If there's a good line. It's not a bad rule.
Have you ever seen like that show where they show, you know, called on camera bad drivers? Yeah. You know, the cops got to sell a pull down and the freeway and some of the people are on the outside. Yeah.
Flies down there, walks them out and all that. Now, if you notice, Bliskarp has his car halfway across. You can't hear it. It's a very...
Look, even the police said, in some circumstances, dangerous. He's got to go away. And regardless of the speed limit, the posted limit, you can get pinned the net driving. If you go over the forward.
And for... No, no, no, no. If it says, if you got 100 on a freeway, it's pissing down raining or whatever, and you're doing 100, the cops can still get you for not driving conditions. It's an effect.
Yeah. Right? So you can still... Yeah.
You can't go from 100 to 40. That's asking for another accident. In South Australia, it's 25. And it's for amber whites as well.
So I think there's a breakdown. And a couple of years. So you got to go from 100 to 24. And I will send us the video that I saw the other day, which happened in South Australia.
Check on Instagram. Yeah. 100, someone's seen coming around the bend on a motorway. 25, hitting anchors.
The other guys just go straight through it. What do you hit the anchors for? When you saw what you got to do is lift off and go past safely. You don't have to hit the anchors.
Yeah, but people get worried. Because they have a competition. That's right. They need to come up with a better idea.
I think it's... I'm not for all their safety and things like that. Maybe, maybe you train people to drop properly. But even the conditions and...
OK, probably. I like where they need to fix their cars. When you said earlier phones, have you noticed a lot of front end things? Yeah, that's all phones.
Well, look, for a while, roundabouts. Roundabouts. There's some stats out on roundabouts. That was work.
I don't remember what it was, but it was more side impacts. Some of the roundabouts first. Yeah, you know, that's a lot of phase. Look, it's always, as people get used to things, things change back.
And getting on it, everyone will bag it until they get used to it. And then it's just like the siren thing. You know, people will bag it. You hear less and less about it getting it.
It's for safety. If you look at the numbers, a bulk of the people, the majority of the drivers. We'll do the right thing when there's lots of stuff. It's everything like that.
They won't. Yeah, but you've got a lot of people that panic. And just try and pull over and they're just sitting away for something happening or... I think it's part of the police officer's responsibility to pull someone over in an appropriate area.
It's where that person panics and parks his car. And I wonder if one day we'll be able to, like a police officer will be able to tap into your radio and you can't let they do any of my tunnels. That's not a bad idea, right? I always pull.
I always do a lot of the side street. Yeah, but that makes it as if I pulled over a lot. No, it's always like a double- That's all about that. This guy knows what he's doing.
And I always just have to be a better solution, I think. Because go back three weeks ago or four weeks ago, I was on the runway heading into the office. Peekout traffic. Traffic was banked up from...
It was our Minto. Almost to Liverpool, CBD, because of that 40 cable. I saw the... I'm coming westbound into Liverpool and it was heading westbound.
And I saw the police going, I'm curious to see how far back this bank's up. Peekout traffic. It was Liverpool. That's a long stretch of road.
That's a good idea of what you said about the police officer being able to go for the radio. If you listen to a CD or something. Most of the day... No, no, it's all over right.
Any end of our tunnel. Don't know what you'll be able to. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a work on the internet.
That is a brilliant idea, you know. The whole issue is, it doesn't matter. Because the people that are the culprits in this are just dumbfucks. It doesn't matter.
You know what they do? They start trying to change their channel just to go. Or stop it. Right?
Because they read another thing. Have you seen the video of the lady that came onto the end five a couple of years back and then decided that she's going to hit the brakes because she wants to get across and got re-rendered by a semi? No. And then you actually did?
This lady who I will call Jane. Jane. Jane Currie. Got out of her.
I think it was a Yaris, so Dan. Who said the mother went out of the truck and the truck pushed her? No, no, no, no. This is fucking the rear.
Right? Middle way now. In the middle way. She's got out of her.
She's spursing the brakes. She's got the tap. Right? She's hit the brakes.
She's on the motorway. She's on the fucking and five. And she got out of the car on her phone because she's obviously calling her. Mate, you're in the middle of the fucking motorway.
Move forward, stop in the brake and back. There you are. She goes. She pulls her kit out.
And she's standing in the middle lane of the end five with a truck behind it with trucks going past. And he's yelling at her. Get back in your car. Move forward.
And she's like, no, no, because even her head is, I've had an accident. I sit the fucking like I would in downtown. Okay. Right?
Right? Right? Because she hasn't been taught to drive. You know what?
She got taught how to pass a test. That's it. That's it. And see that woman?
The cops should have turned up and said, give me your fucking license. And you're trying. Right? Give me your fucking license.
So what we're going to do now is your copy neck driving because we've got dash cam. And your license is suspended. You need to go back and do your murders and go to your police. So what do you like?
You know what I might do? Because it's easier to just attack them, man. Yeah, it's similar. Does anyone say, Tom, you did 54 in a 50 zone you passed in.
You could have killed someone. But meanwhile, she could have killed a wrong with a speed of it off or something. It wasn't me. He was in the car.
I had an officer. I said to him, I was going to get you. What? What?
What about the exit? I'm going to get that. I'm going to get that. I said to him, I was going to clean the block.
I pulled that up. And he said to me, you were going to be fast. Because he was coming on to the motorway at the same time. Well, I was in a car.
I got in front of everybody. I was in. But that's it. I came on.
Likely story. Likely story. I got to be able to get in front. You know?
He's safe. I'll do it within a minute. Yeah. I was three quarters of the way down the ramp.
I'm looking in my side mirror. I'm not going to have in my shoulder. There's traffic back back. No one's going to give me any fucking way.
Right? So I'll put my boot into a bit. One, two, three, one, 20. Merged in safely.
Lift it off. Stay in my way. Right? No problems.
On the motorway. I'll put it to the motorway. Pulled over by the motorway. You got to be fast coming onto the motorway.
So, mate, isn't the ramp to sort of get on? I'll be in my mirrors. And I'll get back to either kick the brakes and stop at the end of the motorway and start from scratch. Or give it a bit.
There was enough room. I got through. Lift it off. Everyone's safe.
So you have to do that. No, don't put me. He said he said he said he said he said he'll go to be fast. And I said, you have to remember.
To enter the freeway. Yeah. He said to me, you have to remember. Not everyone.
He's as confident as you. That gave him a fucking license. Yeah. What a wife did you get stuck with the dump keys.
With this steering, with this speeding in the lab. Oh, I've got a high car company, right? We had a customer in the morning, early hours of the morning. Get pulled over for speeding.
He dreamt it into the officer. I don't think I say this. Jumped into the officer that the speed on the car was a week. We're only talking about a two, three-year-old mver.
Yeah. And he actually got away with it. He defected the vehicle. LAUGHTER But not just that young.
Defected the car. Everything else up. Thomas would have him. And he'd done it.
Like he gave the officer that much thing that the guy invented. Defected the car. The car. Defected the car.
I think it must be his car, I guess. Or you're going to walk to work. Yeah. Got a particular car.
Got a particular car. Yeah, that's right. He did. See, we had to get that car.
You couldn't drive it from there. All right, so we had to get a tow. And then we had to get the dyno tested. We had to get all these laws to get the defect off.
And the complaint? Yeah. What's wrong with it? It's just that he gave the police officer a slip and all that.
He did a red defect. And he said, I've got to pick up the car. Guys, another question. Is there a consistently one make-up model car that comes into your workshop?
Is there consistent? For repairs. Like, is there all cameras? Or?
LAUGHTER With overstickers on the back. It's across the board. It's across the board? There's only make-up model that's like a rule.
When you see it come and you think, oh shit, this is going to be a day. What are you working on? Yeah, well, I hate working on it. I hate working on it.
I'm working on it. How are these? How are these? Yeah.
What? I don't know. I'm just like, I just hate doing it. I just hate doing it.
No, no, no, no. Are they complicated? Are they? Is it cars or the design?
It's the owners that you're going to be on with. No, no, no, no. At the beginning, when we first started, like when they had a Q7s and all that kind of things were different. They had things different.
Like, they're just different. Difficult. Like, we do one, but we just hate doing it. We like working on works.
It works, yeah. Because basically, we do a lot of them, so it's pretty easy. But yeah, at least they're like, because when you're in our priority parts, you've got to get confused with the up parts and let me know. It's a lot of the other ones.
You'll be surprised how many cars we've got the shared parts and other cars and all that. When I dreamt was with these on the car, I took it in the engine line, you're coming on every three months. And I took it to them and said, oh, the AdBlue, because it was these all got AdBlue and Volkswagen's got AdBlue. And it wouldn't pump the AdBlue through.
And I said to them, my wife said Volkswagen do these all the way. It's fine. Oh, sorry. So this is a Porsche.
I've got really, because I thought Volkswagen, I don't know if you guys know that this is a Porsche. I said to them, so how come the cap of my car's got an Audi badge on it? Your real price probably had to be dark. And he shook the fuck up.
Yeah. Well, all cars, a lot of them share. Even the most expensive candy sink. Or back then, candy sink, all the rare cars.
They share if you notice, like, window switches. That'd be out of the merch. Well, the first gen Bentley Continental G8 had a Golf GTR. Yeah, yeah.
And then the battery's worth the same. So a lot of cars share a proprietary. We can't even see it. Yeah.
I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it a lot.
And if you wanted, I mean, is it the same part number? Or is it check the three blocks away? Oh, you tried that before? I've tried that before.
I've tried that a few times. I was just trying to remember the parts that we bring up on that, like, you know, two, yeah. And there, sometimes it's cheaper for someone else. So you can't.
Or you bring up one dealership for that. And then you remember, one has a guy in your stock and will be six weeks before I get to see it. The other one's got plenty. So you use that same thing.
Like I heard a lot of Aston Martin's and me. There's a lot of Ford parts under the Aston Martin's. There's a lot of Ford parts. Yeah, a lot.
A lot. A lot of, a lot share. You know, what I mean? They share a lot of components from each other.
But so how, I mean, you're a bible on each car. Like a book. Like, what do you want in the park? You know what's missing?
No. What do you mean? Like, you want to be the car's going to be a bit changer. Yeah.
But is there a bible? Is there a book that's right? No, I think this, every car's got a, you get, like, just so you're going to change major components and stuff like this. What would you got to follow?
You know, those, you ring up the manufacturer. And they provide you a market. Some of them actually charge you for them. Are you serious?
Yeah. Some actually charge you for them. But the, you know, there's a fair few that you can give it off. A little senator.
I mean, that's what parts of part numbers off the parts of take off. The damage and all that. Or you can get like a catalog. Well, no more.
Back in the early days when I had a different shop. We'd have it all in that, actually have a part catalog books. Yeah. You know what I mean?
But now these days, just right down the top, they'll get a diagram set to you. Circle it, set it back. And you know, are you repairing a lot of stuff these days? Or is it mainly just full of replays?
It's the same as before. You're still repairing a lot of stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean?
But there's a lot of plastic stuff. I mean, it's a simple lot of metal stuff. There's a lot more plastic stuff. And you know, there's plastic repairs, you're welding plastic.
It's all like when you say, oh, it's going to get to a stage where it's throw away panels and all that. Not really. Just because they made that plastic, you're still throwing away. You're repairing the plastic now instead of the metal.
Yeah. That's where it's going. Like, you know, I still remember in my time when you start getting from the VH Commodore's metal bubble bars to the VK. And everyone would be saying, oh, you know, throw away.
Throw away. No, it just went from welding a steel bar to the welding a plastic bar or, you know, guards and a plastic bar. So you can literally pull a plastic panel back. It's still repairing plastic bars.
It's easier to work with than they were. Just this time. Yes, sir, no. You know, each on the side it's got a ventric.
You know, like the metal one's stretch and thing. You can play with them. Plastic. So there's a lot of...
Yeah. Yeah. But there's a lot of plastics that, you know, you get a weld them and it gets difficult. You know what I mean?
But yeah, I don't mind. It's the same. It depends on the goes and on the job. And you're equipment.