This is the best hang podcast featuring Max German, Shane Cunningham and I am Mike Bierman. Welcome to the best hang podcast I'm Mike Bierman, we got Max, we got Shane and it is our holiday podcast, New Year Podcast. I don't know what we're going to record again before the calendar flips to 2025. So this is our year end, we're wrapping it up, we're saying bye, we're trying to send you guys all off with good vibes before we reconvene in the new year.
Guys, how's it going? Lots has happened, lots is going on as usual. You know, when our listeners are getting this on February 26th, it's going to feel really cranked. Max, has anyone ever told you that you look like a slightly older Luigi Managioni?
I'll take it and I know I nailed the pronunciation of that too. No, that's how you say Luigi. No, no. Let's say the last name.
Manjione is something I haven't heard people say, I haven't watched much news. But does anyone know what it's called? Ashwood. Ash has been the most honest story of anyone.
Manjione. Manjione. Manjione. Manjione.
I like it. Max, are you allowed to publicly say that you're a fanjione? That's a great question. Yeah, that's the real political divide right now.
Should we be celebrating a guy who murdered somebody in broad daylight, cold blood? And I think we can. I think it is as sweet as it is. See, I'm scared.
Maybe it's just because I'm a man probably closer to that man's age than Luigi's age. And I wish I had a lot of money and I have children. So I'm like, imagine I was killed in cold blood and everyone was celebrating it. So I'm like more unlikely than you being assassinated in the street.
Is that you had? Was me being wealthy and successful. Yeah, you said I'm sending $200 billion like health insurance corporation. That would be such a wild career turn for you.
But it's such a sleaze thing. I feel like I could ascend in some sleaze. So could you, Mike? And I say that with love.
Not that I'm as charming as you, Mike. But I mean, you could probably climb the ranks of something you had no rights to do just based off like silver tongue in this. Yeah, but could you imagine either of us shifting to health insurance? That's where I don't know what my father-in-law does, but he's in the health field and he sells like equipment and it feels like a good job and I feel like I can fall into something good like that one day maybe.
But like, accidentally. There are some jobs that are just like so fucking faceless and boring. I'm not saying your father-in-law is that. Your father-in-law is the most like full of life person that you could think of like he's so vibrant.
Oh, and it's really charismatic. Cares, man. I'm sure this is why he's so good his job, why he makes all this money. But the way you talk about your father-in-law is the way most kids who are in grade three talk about their parents job.
He works, I think at like a bank. No, it's like medicals. I think he's a doctor. No, he's not a doctor.
I feel like most people don't even know what their wife does. If you had to say like what does your wife do from when the moment she goes to work till she comes home, most people don't know. She's kind of in sales and they don't know much. Don't you think maybe Mike knows more because Danica like pandemic you work from home?
Do you really know what Danica does? I do. I do. I do.
I can share it. People can look up on it. I do know in a very surface level way the ins and outs of her job, but like I couldn't, you know, there's times where like I'll walk by, which is having a meeting or something on a Zoom and it's like they might as well be speaking a different language. I just keep moving and you know, get back to creative world down here.
I do like thinking about this very question, but I could have that job. Like you know, I think I could be like Prime Minister of Canada. I was also at a Raptors game and there was a guy we were in this like backstage lounge area with a bunch of the big wigs and there's this guy who kind of looked at the thing when she kind of looked like an actor to me and I was like, is that like Richard Dreyfus from like Mr. Hollins Open or something like who is this guy?
It turns out Keith Pelly who is the president of MLSC. He's like the new, I think CEO president. I don't know. But yeah, there's air about him and everybody was like shaking his hand.
He was like really good to everybody. Everything seems really like him. I was like, I can do that job. I could be that guy.
Oh, okay. If you get that job, kid walks in, boom, blows you away. Do people celebrate? Do you mean like you don't mean impresses you?
He impresses you. He means like kills you. Assassinate. Oh, yeah.
Murders. I mean, I can tell by the look on Max Face, he got Shane that addresses. Oh, my God. So I was like, is this question?
So it kills me? What? You ascend to this position of CEO or whatever. And then someone like Luigi assassinates you, Max.
Now that you're in this powerful position at a big corporation, like you're in a room with all these people backstage at this rapper's thing, which almost is like they got targets on their back now. How would I feel about it? No. Do you think that would happen?
Oh, you, Max Kerman. Do you think people would want to see you go down? Well, I mean, you're saying Max. But you're super attractive and you do the murder.
I feel like that helps. Oh yeah. Definitely. Like if Luigi looked like Dennis frayons or something, I feel like he wouldn't be a celebrity.
No, I mean, just a theory I have. Like it's like an actor. I've put this in the group chat, but I had to go over to my Omas, my grandma's yesterday to, I had to start something out for a bill with her. You know, sometimes like with older folks with computers and all this.
You owe her money? No, no, no. She's just like, Michael, can you call this company and explain why this costs? Yeah.
Yeah, I'll come over and sort it out. When I got to her place, she had CNN on. And of course, Luigi was doing like that, sort of. like that sort of, I guess like epically sort of staged perp walk in New York where he had like all of these swag guys in dark and then he was in the order.
It looked like it was shot by Christopher Noll, or staged in a way like the con anyway, it was just, it was very cinematic looking. And the mayor showed up. Like it's a photo on. Yeah, he's been shot.
You're famous by association just being next on but continue Mike. Well, just, it's funny because it's like, I've sort of been, Ash was barely on the story when it was still before we knew it was a Ouija and all that and we started, we talked about it in the group chat, but then once it revealed itself, I'm kind of paying attention but not, I've sort of detached from it. But the, my Oma, I'm like, what is her thoughts? I don't, she must be fun.
It's like everybody else. But we were just kind of watching it and I was kind of looking at the TV of my Oma just shook her head and just went, and he came from a good family too. So like, I feel like she's not down with the vigilante justice. She's more just like, how could this happen?
You know, I generally don't give a word. So like I just put in the group to sort of, I guess, make the case for why she was so intrigued. He was playing games, catch phrases, monopoly money, 3D printed gun perp walk eyebrows. We love.
So maybe the pageantry of all the staging of it all. Wait, okay, so is the gun that he used? Was it actually 3D printed or was it like, he used that as like a trick gun to like throw this cop's office in or something? Or did he do the murder with a printedo gun?
I think with a printedo gun. It's so funny. My conception of anything printed is literally like a printing machine at your elementary school. That's why I thought that's why, so whenever anybody says they can print out something that's like a sturdy is like a gun, like it seems crazy to me, but I guess I can do that with three prints.
No, you're totally right. It feels beyond my comprehension. Like what? Like the material that comes out of it is powerful enough to like propel a bullet and have like that sort of igniting reaction.
I don't, it's bizarre to me, but I guess it exists. Okay, so I don't give one fuck about AI imagery. Like it's like, oh, did you know that they covered city hall with like the new Dexter logo? Or like, I'm like, that wasn't real.
Like there's so much like AI video stuff that I could give one fuck about. It actually makes me feel kind of good about the future for creatives. Because people like, even now going, I sure, yeah, it looks super real. It looks real, but also who gives a fuck?
But there was one funny thing from the Manjioh and Manjioh thing where somebody basically took the, how do they do it? They took the screen grab of him like with his face sort of covered or like one of those famous pictures of him. And then with like video AI, put that photo into real life. And somebody said, like comes over and kind of hugs him and goes, you've been pre-approved.
And then the camera pans over to a panel of like healthcare people being like, your like grievances been accepted. And they all celebrate him with balloons, basically, like he wouldn't have any of the trouble with healthcare. Have you guys, are you ever talking about? I'm ruining this one?
No, I have to see it though. I've never seen it, yeah. Oh, it's so good. But anyway, it's basically just like an AI video that looks super real that like, but just takes that opening screen grab and then turns it into a six second scene.
And it's really funny. And that's a good example of AI stuff. Do you ever play around with the AI like pictures to see how far you can go or what you can get it to do? No, I've never been on the platform.
Yeah, you have. Okay, I always want to see if I can make it look like a celebrity is doing cocaine. But the AI has all these filters on it to make it so you can't do anything really naughty. I've seen people do this, keep going.
So I'm like, okay, can you show Demar DeRozin? Because it won't let Michael Jordan, for some reason you can't use Michael Jordan in any capacity. It's like there has so many blockers on that. So I'm like, can you do Demar DeRozin sitting in a doughnut shop with a big powdered doughnut?
Then it just shows me a photo. I'm like, can you take away the doughnut and just have like powder under his nose? And then it's kind of suspicious. And then I'm like, can you do a big mound of powder in front of him?
But then it didn't want to let me do it unless I had a shirt on him that says, I love powdered doughnuts. And then I'm like, can you be holding a straw now? But it was so hard to actually do this that when I found out you can just ask a printer to say like, can you print a gun? And it just says yes.
I was like, that's insane. Like you think it would say no. Print out this, this, that gun please. That's a crazy printer algorithm.
Yeah, hold on, I'll print your algorithm in AI or just in general. I don't know how else I would think to ask the printer to be done. There has to be some sort of algorithmic blocker that's off because I would think there's limitations on what can and can't be printed. Did you tell us that you figured it out?
Did you figure it out? I was demartarosim doing cocaine. Well, I also, for some, it sounds so familiar. I've never seen this.
Did you set it to Paris? Yes, because we were talking about Kendrick Lamar. And I know Demartarosim was in the Kendrick Lamar video. So for some reason, the AI wouldn't allow me to have Demart at some point unless Kendrick was with him.
So then I had Kendrick there too. And then we were talking about Kendrick. And I was like, I can't even get Kendrick to do cocaine in this AI thing. And I sent you the photo of him.
I'm sure that's sort of... It was in the dripshats chat. And they both have high love donuts or something on the shirts. Yes.
What time of day were you doing this, by the way, shit? After work, for sure. I just worked 12 out of shit, actually. Over time, I didn't ask for anything.
My boss doesn't even know I worked that hard until now and he's a listener. So. Yeah, he just hit you up. Send me that photo of Demart and Kendrick.
Yes. Speaking of Kendrick, he's got two shows at Roger Center, which is the biggest venue in the city. It's a max. What are your thoughts on the fact?
Like, Drake's never even played that venue. Doesn't that feel like a real sort of uncommon year turf? And it feels like a real statement for people that care about these things. Yeah, it's cool.
It comes at you fast. That's the only thing I'm thinking about. Like, it comes at you fast. I've been thinking about, like, I've made this point.
I just did an interview actually for Global. And I said this, but I was like, at the beginning of last year, in 2023, no one would predict that like Chapel Rowne and Sabrina Carpenter were the two biggest pop albums of the year. Like far surpassing Dua Lipa, Katy Perry, Ariana Grande, even fucking Beyonce almost. Like, these are the records that people really care about.
And you just wouldn't have predicted that a year ago. And now, if you're Drake a year ago, are you thinking that like Kendrick has any chance of like touching me and the throne? But here we are. And you know, Kendrick's playing the Super Bowl.
Like two nights at the stadium, where Drake just never bothered to play. So Drake kept on pushing aside the Super Bowl. Drake has never done Rogers. By the way, I keep on thinking the more I talk about Drake, the more I'm gonna run into Drake.
Drake's gonna say, I listen to that pod, bro. Fuck you. It's like, I gotta be careful. I'm gonna be a great guy.
But I think like after the pandemic, I would think Chapel Rowne taking the number one spot on the pop charts isn't that shocking. Like I think pandemic happened that anything is on the table now. Like do you think that's the way culture says? Yeah, do you think that's the way that the world just feels different after the pandemic than anything goes?
Nothing would surprise anybody anymore? I think we were already headed to the point where nothing can last long because we're so addicted to new news items. And then the pandemic transcended that because it was so big that it stuck around for so long. But I think it shook a lot of people to its core.
Nothing can top a pandemic except another pandemic that's deadly. So Chapel Rowne being number one or a rapper taking over Drake. I don't think we'll shock people or ever be like behind the news shock list. It's also just like the way anything's different.
That's that that was actually that grabbed a hold of people for like maybe now it's Peter enough. But I think we're done with the Ouija right now, especially when our listeners are listening to this. I was I was wondering I was watching the Perk walk. I was like, what if you just jumped into the water?
What if he ran off the pier and like sort of like broke free from the guards and just sort of jumped into the water? Would his followers find that good or just think that it shows that he's insane? Like how would they react to that? Because it's more action, more choose.
I think people like it. They have to fish him out of the water though, right? They'd be hard to get like swim if you're in there, right? Oh yeah, the best ace is he dives sinks.
They never find him. We never know if he's alive or dead. We know he's probably dead. But that's I think the legend of Luigi.
And I think that lives forever. If we ever hear a sit down interview where Luigi talks for half an hour, I think he's over. I think he's not gonna be cool. He's gonna be a little too weird.
He's gonna be unlikable in a way that people don't like. I think he's like a weekend. You know what I like is more with the weekend. Or Leonardo Capri for that matter.
And kudos to them for knowing that the weekend knows he's a little weird. Like DiCaprio, he's doing it purposely. But the weekend just stays out of interviews. His voice isn't that cool.
Are you disappointed that Luigi, okay, you know the YouTube thing that you sent Mike about with us, like it was supposed to be from Luigi with like. A countdown? Is that actually him? Don't know.
I never broke it down. Yeah, they might have a little disappointed that he didn't have a better like, he just got caught in the McDonalds and felt like, you know what I mean? Like, once you have a better strategy? Well, we first of all, like what happened was it was also, it was like the sort of like perfect confluence of things that made it mysterious, like high profile assassination, elusive, you know, suspect and then the photo of him smiling and flirting the thing.
And then people started to like think he was a mastermind of a certain level, like movie level, a fictional level. So then the reality could never live up to it. Unless he was the ultimate sort of criminal unicorn that actually plotted shit out like he was in a fucking Batman movie. And so he properly, it's also hard to like, if he had like planned to actually release some sort of manifesto online or some video he prerecorded, YouTube's gonna shut that shit down.
You almost have to put it out before you do the thing or before you get caught. If there's any chance for them to stop it, it's gonna get stopped. You can't have it down to the same age. Do you guys think about what your strategy would have been for the murder?
You guys have thought about how you would like book a plane, leave the country, what country you'd go to, like how much foresight would you have? Like Shane, you thought about this, how you would have gone away with it. You wouldn't have been arrested in Philadelphia. Like I love the plan, E-bike.
I love the idea of dropping the monopoly money in Central Park. Like all that theatrical stuff, that is great. That's why you feel risky. What, E-bike, do you have to put your credit card down or something?
That's too risky. You print a bike. You like the print a bike. Yeah.
You print a bike. New passport, please. What can you do? What can you do?
Print a plane. Yeah, where would you go? Because you'd have to get out of the country. That's the thing I was like, this guy just needs to have some transportation available to get him out of the country.
And then just to live off the US. Like go to Cuba. No, I don't think so. I think this day and age, there is cameras everywhere.
Everything is tracked not to be one of these tin foil hat people. But this is the thing, it's like by design, everybody is pretty trackable, right? So what you gotta do with your Luigi is you commit the crime and you need to have a spot, like a spot like fucking plotted out almost like a bomb shelter that has like six months of food and basically somewhere in like New York or whatever. And you basically disappear into that spot and you hide until it blows over.
I'm telling you, that's the way to get away with it. Because the more you move, the more you can be tracked. There's just more opportunity for things to go wrong. You're in a hostile, you're smiling at, you know, some attractive person across the fucking counter.
You're in a McDonald's. You can't be out amongst people. You can't get in a plane. You can't even get in a boat to somewhere.
Cause everything is tracked. So you've got to basically like do it and then get to a safe house and basically wait six months and then emerge and then start moving amongst the people once again. If I thought fully conceal your face, like what's up with these cool outfits fitting nicely? Like the little mask, like where an actual like prosthetic thing cover your face so it's unrecognized.
We'll change your height maybe with lifts, wear a shoe that's way too big for you and wait it properly. So the shoe prints still feels like the shoe. Like the shoe in it. I'm shocked that nobody like there wasn't like one fucking Twitter thread or something from someone who went to school with him.
Like he was in like, you know, he was in the private school, he was the valedictorian of his school in high school, went to Ivy League. And like it was nobody like this is fucking Luigi. Look at him. It's Luigi.
Like how did nobody say that? You mean like people his peers from money? Yeah, peers. But does they come from money?
Yeah. But people with money don't really need to be like, do they really want to get on Twitter and be scrutinized? I'm just like one person out of the hundreds of people that he would have gone to school with in the last 10 years. He goes, oh, that's Luigi.
And then or then they tell a buddy who's on Twitter all the time on YouTube. Right. You know what I mean? I'm just shocked at like not one person.
I'm just like, yeah. But that gets another question. Like why do people post threads? Like it's for like, I guess to be acknowledged or get liked or get shared or go viral.
If you've got, you know, why do they post threats or on threads? Threads. Like he was like, why didn't someone be like, oh, I went to school with this guy. Here's my anecdote about Luigi.
You know what I mean? It's just like those anecdotes will get shared at parties and stuff. I just don't think, I don't know. It gets to the whole public facing thing in general.
I wonder if there's still an appeal amongst most people to like, I don't know. Maybe this is like a disconnect. But like I was just reading the ex-wife of the guy that Ariana Grande is dating or whatever. So I'll wicked by the way, which was in fact, I thought pretty wicked.
Although it seems like people- What's he did? Get leaked down. Oh yeah. But the ex-wife posted this piece about, oh, her life has been abruptly changed, obviously.
They had this baby and then he left her for her. But anyway, I was just like, I wonder what, what's the motivation to post? And she said in the article it was to share and you know, maybe other people can heal and I sort of understand that. But yeah, I just don't understand these days like on mass to try and like share something in a public forum that a large amount of people would see, you know?
It's like, it's not worth the squeeze, I don't think. Like, what's it, what's it get you? I feel like for that woman, she's, I've been getting a lot of people feeling bad for her and maybe she just wanted to change the narrative where she could own it a little bit more. I think if she had it her way, it probably wouldn't be a big story, but it was so massive and it wouldn't go away This is maybe to nip it in the butt a little bit.
Yeah, hers made sense. She's actually really good writer But it was it was really well written and you know, she's a therapist and she goes in a really thoughtful way and about it how it pertains how she relates with her clients and how she had to like and she had a line about how Anonymity, but like she has to keep her clients in and it's just blown right that was kind of the crux of it And how she talked about this like sort of like altering event with her therapist and she's like all therapists are like a Russian Russian dolls of therapists Like we all you know, and she's like of course a therapist use a therapist like would you use like a cardiologist that you know I'm a guy to the heart attack because he didn't have an EKG. It's like you got to trust the method or whatever the person all I'm saying she's really well written she got pretty defensive about her using a therapist thing. She did.
Yes. Yeah, so maybe She's people are gonna be judgy and by the way people are gonna be judgy And I'm sure the air in the hive is getting you know, nasty in the comments and all that stuff But it's just like I do understand why she probably put it up And she said it as much as article, you know, take back some ownership help other people But anyway, it's your point Max if he's like from an affluent sort of fucking school and all his peers are like doctors lawyers Trust one babies like why the fuck would I go on the record talking about this guy? It's like it's poison I'm just one person that's like, you know, or this is like oh my mom went to like I don't know There's usually one fucking person that would have made it I'd post about it there I think it's this guy, you know, but maybe it's too that's hard to it's hard to pin the valedictorian It seems unlikely. It's like, you know who did that our valedictorian Luigi It'd be like shut up because it looks like you you honestly max look like Luigi right now That's like if you smile, yeah, and I'd be like I guess that looks like Max But Max said he didn't do it, but now I'm gonna tweet I think this might be Max Kerman just in case it goes viral He means humans and then after the fact, it's not gonna go Yeah, Max is talking strictly about after the fact He means like why people sharing your Okay, stories no, I was saying I was originally saying like like when people didn't know who he was I was saying one wacko didn't just say like oh, I think this guy went to fucking high school They probably were behind the scenes, right?
Well, Luigi doesn't seem like he was that much of a jerk and valedictorians usually aren't not that they're not popular But they're not out partying and stuff so people don't have that many Luigi stories So okay, so you're saying you're shocked that not one person identified him from the hostile photo where he smiled Yeah, I'm saying like one person in his high school Who spends time online isn't going I think this might be like I'm misunderstood that I thought you were like why don't people sharing anecdotes after the fact Like that's also a good one too. I want here some Luigi anecdotes man, you know You know terrible risk reward to just like accuse Luigi in it. You're wrong. Yeah, I'm sure especially knowing everyone loves this guy Like I'm scared to even say like I'm not down with the murder.
I'm worried I'm gonna get in trouble right now Yeah, hey, did you just follow Justin Bateman on the internet? Yeah, I don't follow her Yeah, like she made headlines like in the last couple days. I saw that yeah, she's Jason sister, right? Oh, I know I know her life like and I followed her growing up on family ties She was famous before Jason Bateman like she was a big like team-ag everyone had a crush on camera Yeah, she's a director now, right?
Yeah, she came out as a huge sort of like against AI and in the film industry She's a spokesman for that and how it's ruining its in a room to unions and how they're gonna She's gonna anti-woke to right huge. Yeah big like Trump supporter. Yeah, just being beaten in his yeah Yeah, she had like that she said why is there a no gun gun Advocates or you know people are worried about gun control advocates. No one's saying anything now The guy was just murdered with a gun no one's talking about having even a band guns They're just gonna point out the democracy of that which is a fair point I suppose I don't know but he used a printer didn't use a real gun Yeah, like ban the part that says what you want to print gun like that's the part they need to ban You're a printer control advocate.
Yeah, yes because even if you ban guns you can just print them up It's such a false what about thing that people love to do like a false equivalency like Like that's not what people there saying ban guns because one guy printed a gun illegally and used it It's like the idea that you can walk into a store and get a gun and walk into a school and take a bunch of people They are 15 it's been like automatic assault not a fucking yeah a six shooter, you know what? Fuck that guy you know anyway long story long as that happens a lot people like well Nobody's saying this about this and I'm like that's a bad faith argument just a fan He was like a Clint Eastwood esque Pull this up. I don't know what it was I feel lucky I think the fact that he used the silencer is what made people think it's so professional because when you're a little kid Silencer is so attached to this guy's a pro. Yes.
Just the fact that you felt like I don't want that bang to be too loud But that's the last I'll say about that Guys movies have you guys seen any good Oscar movies because I'm ash and I own a role right now We're seeing a lot of movies right now. So it's it's been it's a good time of your name some a real pain starring Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Colkin I recommend that last episode. Oh, you did it. I gotta see it.
It was good I like that September 5th with the Munich Olympics in 1972 With the Israeli hostages. Yeah, also good. Didn't they already make one about that or yeah? They did yeah, this is okay Yeah, they call me Nick conclave Pope stuff you guys familiar with conclave.
I've heard of none of these movies so far so come on I know all the Jesse Eisenberg movie. I did not know what it was called, but I really want to see it Yeah, conclave has some pope stuff going on how they choose the new pope It's good to do they choose the new pope just unless that runs the movie that's always no Pick a name of a hat on the pope. No all the big all the big arch bishops or whatever they all get together the Vatican and they vote It's like a political like convention and they have to the smoke people are like the smoke. It's famous Every day every day they like burn up the tally and then they smoke comes out and if it's black smoke it They haven't chosen the pope yet, and if it's another color they do I don't know it's weirder than I thought Yeah, it's all time.
It's all time. Um, have you guys watched anything good? I'll earn a vap just based on your recommendation. I was what I saw about that.
Tell me which I like about it I was I was watching it on a plane and I was very tired so I was thinking this might be really good or it might not be Turned out to be really good. It had like an unclassy like high art entourage style vibe I always like getting a behind-the-scenes look at the entertainment industry Just what it's like being kind of famous and you know, I obviously like Alicia Vikander Is that how you say? Yeah, that's really good, but the director I thought was was so funny the French director. Yeah, he was great So great like all his neuroses and like he reminded me a little bit obviously he's extreme Just what he's saying how he like hates being around people but yes, we were on the people I was like really relating to that when he was there this Yeah, have you seen the original movie it was based off of?
No, apparently that's good to same director But I was impressed that this guy's in like his 70s doing such good film That was what was inspiring to me that he made such a good series in his 70s It doesn't get better as it goes though, which was a little bit disappointing I thought it was going to end with a little bit more gusto or at least knowing that wasn't gonna get picked up for a second season Did you feel that way? I'm going very slow Oh my god, so max comes on and because a hard recommendation on applied then Shane puts in a chat group and Shane's a very tough critic He's like a bunch of like a bunch of oh, I'm like fuck I'm like I guess this thing is like a banger I'll put it on the list and I'll get to it once I'm done season seven of Doesn't get a survivor, but I'm like which I did this if But yeah, so anyway, but max can even finish it and you're saying I won't get to it It's it's I'm very excited to get to it. I'm taking my time with it But if it falls off I've lost like I've already kind of sort of I'm not out But I'm kind of lost my enthusiasm it falls off a little bit and they kind of plant seeds that never grow and maybe the hope was okay This is definitely getting a second season and will fulfill these promises kind of made But they don't really so it ends a little bit of a whimper But that's exactly the kind of show that I want to make though You know when the actors don't even feel like they're acting whether or not even acting It's like that's my favorite kind of acting is when they don't seem other acting It's like documentary style almost, you know, yeah, no, it was very cool The first the worst acting in the series is actually the first four minutes of the thing It threw me off how bad it was for some reason Maybe I just wasn't acclimated to it, but then once it settled in I thought oh, they're really getting good all of a sudden Do you think most TV shows shoot in order like shoot in Carlisle's quarter? I was thinking about that while watching I'm like or sure this is the first scene they shot the chemistry wasn't there She felt a little uncomfortable.
It was a walk-and-talk It felt like the way the camera was choreographed wasn't as smooth as everything else in it It feels like they should always just plan to reshoot the first scene in every show Yeah, after they you know, I mean I know that's a very expensive and timely and very fucking annoying But it just feels like you kind of want to do everything and then go back to the first scene once everyone's good You know when we shot bulges we shot the very last scene first Mark Myers who directed was just like why are you acting like that? I'm like, I don't know I thought it was good to like kind of kind of ground it He's like yeah, but this is like a comedy like yeah, but by the end I think I'm kind of like I'm realized as a person like I don't know and I got my head and then I kind of made it a little bit different throughout the series And then when I watch it I'm like fucking I like the end scene the best Acting I'm like that's what I should have kept So I'm mad it's all the same mad at mark your instincts were right. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I saw an aura Which is a big ossie. Oh, that's the one I want to see on a list. Yes. Love a lot of nudity.
That's all I say. Oh, you don't like that though Your favorite movie ever is like challenge shirts or something Challengers. No, it's a little bit of the blues the warmest color just a little bit. Hey, what is your oh blue?
Yes What is your top 2024 film max? I thought it would have been challenges we talked about this three months Oh challenges for challenges. It's still challenges right right? Great question.
Mike yours. Ah shit I don't I don't know. I think the one I walked okay So I'll do two I obviously mentioned heretic on the last episode and I that was just it was a surprise I liked it. I went with no expectations So the way it made me feel made me how I used to feel what movies when I was like a teenager or in my 20s We could see something you'd be like oh awesome.
I like that feeling when I got her cast off And I had to bring it so I take the Monday off and I go and I bring her it's like a nine-name appointment We go and do the damn thing she's like done by like 10 So like I could easily bring her back to school and I was and then you know I'd get the rest of the day to myself But I was like do you want to go see Wicked obviously, you know, she's gonna choose like let's go see Wicked I'm like great. I'm like look out. Okay. We sit through Wicked.
It's like three hours or whatever Whatever it is 240. I don't know but I was like I don't know if she'll get through the whole thing Not only did she get through the whole thing and literally was just like watching the screen and even look at me like when she tried to reach for popcorn She wouldn't even like look at me. She just like reached anyway. I was I was loving how into it She was but I was like I've never seen Wicked.
I didn't know the story I didn't know anything about it. Obviously it's this huge ten-pole movie everyone in time What is a huge ship by the time we saw it but it ends so strong Like the song is so good. I don't want to give away anything or whatever, but it turns out it's a part one So there's a part two coming it's just done. It's like I don't know It's like that director and the way the music is performed and recorded and the song is written and the way that it's so have you either You seen it?
Yes. Yeah, I haven't seen it. So yeah, I just I just thought it left on such like a powerful sort of like an emotional high I walked I sort of was like holy fuck I was like that movie was way better than it had like and then maybe I expected her that any right to be or you're touching Well first question for you. Did you feel guilty supporting that home record any point?
I wasn't aware of it until until so that article came out the cut article came out earlier Then I kind of went down a bit of a rabbit hole over the last 24 hours. I was like oh, this is a this is a pattern You know and that was that oh she doesn't Ariana doesn't like apparently according to the internet Yeah, that was that was you know a joke question because at the end of the day It's that Ethan guys responsibility right to not 100% Yes, and I will for the I think like when Ariana hosts like SNL and she does her like talk show appearances like on balance I think she's like, you know like one of the most talented people they got in Hollywood That is like feels like a five-tool athlete that is a great actor great singer naturally funny like gets the bits Like I think she's awesome I thought that it was better than I her performance was better than I thought it was gonna be It's challenging for me to watch a musical like the second somebody starts singing something I start I start zoning out thinking about my life taxes everything But when it was the funny parts I was so zoned in I love the guy who plays the prince the handsome prince that guy was fucking amazing So funny like I thought he was even better than like kind of Ryan Dawson and Barbie Like that's how good the level was and yeah, Alex was like why wouldn't Ariana be with that guy like why not? Why him over Ethan? I know I think she doesn't care about like super handsome guys or something But Lucy started zoning out for that like 40-minute chunk where not that it loses the thread But you had to kind of focus more on it because it wasn't as funny or musical And then I thought it ended really strong But I could not tell you what happened at the end right or why it ended strong because I wasn't that into that type of movie So it was more of a genre problem than the fact that I just didn't like it Yeah, it's just that's not my type of movie I have a hard time with even like movies like Moana or something like that where people are universally loved I cannot follow the plot because I simply don't care enough Moana too I zoneed out on because I thought it was you know, it had that issue for me Not that it's not a good movie But anyway, I'd have to I pretty probably since this is a year-end podcast should put ahead together like a comprehensive list I just aren't listening things because I feel like I used to be able to just be like oh that one that one But now my recall is like oh shit.
Yeah, I did see that. Oh, yeah, and then but yeah, I sometimes there's like books I've read that I love this book and then some of that could you read this book? I don't think I've ever heard of it before And like also, it's like I was talking to Saveli. I was like to the movies with Saveli to see Conclave I was like Saveli I was like you gotta see a real pain.
It's like so great. He's like I saw that with you last week in the theater Well, it's just now you recommended it back to me, but I literally just talked about it in the last spot Yeah, I'm trying to look up best movies of 2024 to see if there's any that I'm forgetting I watched a cool movie called robot dreams that I think is from last year I roll a stone had it on the list for 24. But anyway, I didn't I won't go too much into that, but it was good Not for a to not I haven't seen that. Oh in the bottom of the eggers.
It's so over that. Oh, yeah The oh Robert Eggers. I don't know is that the director of the witch speaking though of you know celebrities who either talk Not at all or too much the press tour that timothy shalomaze on right now is amazing Have you like he keeps on coming up in my tiktok and I didn't really think of him as much of a personality But he's totally our people like he listens to remind me of you anytime I see him He acts exactly like you he tries to be like yeah, exactly like you everything he does is identical to you max No wonder you like him so much Give me an example give me an example when he's okay when he's on the sports show And he's like I can't wait to drop my sports knowledge and impress people because that's not what I'm know You would revel in that moment and soak up every last little drop and the way he's being so demonstrative with it and such like a Showoff in a way, but still like you know a likable show off that is the big max moment I was taken by that I was I was yeah by that and just how he he tries to be a little more laid back Sometimes interviews that he probably is in real life to be like cool and like kind of fit the interview that he's doing Mm-hmm. This is a good thing.
This is all compliments Well, I'm excited to see the Bob Dylan with the as a result and really he sings all the parts And he also like said for the three months of shooting he like didn't have a smartphone or something He said he just like didn't look at the internet. I was like very cool Did you see the latest thing he posted where he basically just went to appear and kind of did like a handheld music video for a Bob Dylan song he just played the Bob Dylan song on his like pier and he just sang along to it like a like It's just all like one shot and he kind of sings along with sometimes at the time He's just kind of grooving to the song but you kind of watch the whole two minutes you're just kind of like This would be so lame in other hands but for some reason it's endearing when he does it Have you ever seen him when he's asked about what he's listening to and he says the Beatles? No, no, I would say oh and they they ask him what his favorite album is and he's like oh shit I don't know any of the albums and he's like um actually yeah, I believe it's on apple And he lists the greatest hits compilation, but he's really embarrassed when they like catch him in this but it went pretty viral Was this recently or this is like six months ago? Crazy, but also and then all the hoop sides love them because all these tweets were unearthed of him trying to get like free tickets The next game in 2010 With landry fields and I can't remember the other guy was on the team But yeah, he got the free tickets they met him at like the state whatever union station Where everyone's called and grants legislation?
I guess yeah Have you seen his old like high school videos that he used to make like when he was doing like talent shows and he made a video like a rap Making fun of his teacher like there's a bunch of stuff online Yeah, I just I'm called crazy old Q and I performed at the talent show at the school assembly. Oh, yeah Yeah, he's one to one max like he has also have Jewish I think dude He just did a he also so who's the other l fanning is in the movie and so they did like a press bit Good because he's just he's also good. We can give him a premise and he'll just be entertaining on his own So it's them sort of like and the game they play is this a Bob Dylan lyric or a little Timmy Tim lyric And I guess that was his rap ego I maybe it was a little Timmy Tim something like that And so then he reads her a lyric and it's either Bob Dylan or one of his from like when he was a high school rapper And it's just like their chemistry is great. She's like wait So you're putting little Timmy Tim on the same level with Bob Dylan He's like what's wrong with that like what's wrong with that and they just like they have like a really funny And then he's like reading his lyrics and you know which ones are his because he gets delighted at his stupid fucking lyrics Like once he reads it to himself, he starts laughing like that's a good one and then you know, it's just He's a very endearing personality.
I think He won't be forgiven though for dating one Kendall Jenner though. Oh, highly Jenner. Kylie Kylie. He's back with Kylie now Yeah, yeah, they were just spotted together I forgot about that.
I forgot about that. Did either of you ever end up seeing Charlie in chocolate factory? No, no, no, I couldn't get through that Yeah, another great great kids musical type thing that transcends I think the genre But Mikey your voice sounds a little bit higher for some reason A little bit what's going on What is that is the funniest way to introduce a potential topic Well guys, I was gonna mention this before it happened, but I did recently get a vasectomy Does sound a little bit higher as a result, but um, yeah, I just seem like less of a bro this episode Yeah, my testosterone is a little bit down. I um, yeah, I was gonna bring this up in the last couple of episodes because I thought it'd be more As I was leading up to it like my thoughts are my feelings But now you know, I can't forget him because like honestly like life gets very very busy and you know We jump on here and just shoot the shits and I forgot but yeah, it's done any questions we guys want to know Did it hurt?
It's it's what yeah, okay. That's a good question. Just to start Well, what were you gonna say Shane? I before I get to the end of it I went out I will as I as you know, I went on a cruise ship recently a cruise and I went with a urologist was the main guy I was hanging out with So I was asking him about vasectomies because he performs vasectomies and he's like I would only do it on myself It's too any said it's too risky I don't know I was like why he's just like I just I because I I jokingly asked him I was like would you ever perform a vasectomy on yourself because he hasn't had one yet and he was saying of course He's like I would never let anyone do that and I thought that you're all just was gonna say like it's an easy simple procedure Whatever, so I didn't want to say shit or message you or talk about it at all until I knew that it went okay because I was a little Well, yeah, it was it was interesting I'll say like so basically we have a bunch of friends.
I have a bunch of friends like I've got two kids We're done. So it's like let's let's do the damn thing We know enough people that it's sort of done and like what's the deal and they were all very sort of casual like you're in You're out and you know, they sort of played it off in a way that's like, you know, just go forward ever So I was pretty casual about it and then me and you were talking so if you have anyone here watching the desert You can watch the desert and episode one Shane and I are in a vasectomy sketch Which you know, it's two guys are in the waiting room and they end up sort of bonding just do like looks back and forth and they decide Because they become friends in the short time to get their vasectomy together And then it's a really sort of graphic when somebody's nightmare of what a vasectomy might be is sort of the bit of a sketch But around that time somebody had suggested that we get vasectomies to like promote the show or something like that Like really go and do it we could talk about it blah blah blah So I was kind of like well, I'm kind of planning to go anyway Like maybe that would be funny and you were sort of just like no And then I was like, I'm interesting and then I was like, okay, well, I think I'm gonna get one and you were like Yeah, I don't know and I was kind of shocked because you're pretty nonchalant with stuff in general So that got me kind of weird about vasectomy because you were seems trepidation I might have read you wrong But I was like, why is he hesitant? Well, the sketch definitely freaked me out a little bit more If you see that sketch like, okay, these guys gone a little too far with this thing But and then I talked to Alex about it and she was just like well abstinence is like that's 100% effective So We're doing it every night But yeah, I don't I don't know what it is. It's I think I was telling you this too, which is very morbid But I'll share here with the idea that I can edit it out I'm like, what if we get in an accident kids are wiped out both of them and I got to have two more kids because Alex She's fairly young.
She's still 35. So that's still geriatric But I mean you can self kids. You could so I'm like, okay, then we can have two more kids Maybe I have two boys next yeah Max I'm the only guy left to be popular in the earth world. We're fucked now.
It's it's true Maybe I let humanity down but in the interim so basically, you know, I I'm like no, I'm fucking doing it I commit all this other stuff. There's a whole other story to about going to a doctor But anyway long story long is I get it set up you didn't go to a doctor to get this No, no, I have a friend that can do it on the cheap I know I was of course I went to a doctor to go to your family doctor to get the recommendation for the Urologist or whatever the person to perform the procedure. Anyway, did they have to look at your penis? Is that the story?
No, I mean in a physical they're gonna sort of feel around anyway to make sure everything's all good with you Just intrigued when that story was oh, I was telling you about it It's like I hadn't been for physical and so long because I like never get sick But then you have to like disclose like your medical history and it's like I was getting my heart checked because This I recently had like my uh my blood taken in my heart all this stuff done and the woman at the blood clinic was like So cold, but I don't know any of this stuff like I just like okay I'm gonna take your blood and they had to put all these things on my chest and I'm gonna take some picture of like what my cardiovascular But she's not walking she just came in and she sat down and she's like she's like what's your name? What's your full name? Okay, how old are you how much do I'm like I'll have to wait myself I'm like I need the number I'm like okay, so I throw it out there It was so cold you just guessed your own weight like a carnival barker Yeah, I was like I don't know what you think I look like it's been you know we're entering the holidays She's so mean that she's like and she's like why are you getting this? It's like it's both my parents died of a heart attack.
Oh, boom. Oh, okay And then so she kind of softened like slightly man I love like obviously I don't love that but the fact that you had that in your back pocket to use against them is just the perfect response It was very satisfying and then so she does the blood and then when she had to do the shit on my chest to like check all this stuff She's like okay take your top off and she had like a bit of like a kind of some sort of like non-descript European accent So it's a part of your for sure something like that. She was just cold and she was like okay You take a shirt off. She's like and then your pants you roll up like bite to your knees Like so I guess I guess I guess but she kind of garbled it and I was like sorry You're gonna repeat that again.
She's like take your top off She's like and then roll your things up to your sleeve and then take your socks I'm like okay, I got it and she goes she goes oh And then she can tell that I was like getting annoyed and she's like oh Some people don't understand anyway. We haven't gotten the second thing. This was just the blood thing But anyway long story long the mastectomy the whole thing is it's like in the paperwork and shit They're like hey just you know this is reversible, but it's very expensive and it's not covered by oh Hep for any of our non-canulars or non-onterial listeners. That's like our health coverage or whatever So the second is free in Canada But they're like to get it reversed is not covered and it's very expensive and no-ganties Whatever I get into the thing and the doctor comes into the first thing he says to me Is he's like hey just so you know this is not reversible I was like all right cool, but I'm like they must have to talk to the ship was saying yeah Try to make it as difficult as possible so they they cross like the penis wires so the cum can't It's exactly like that I'm sure it was a girl just and I just Was actually a bartender who's obsessed with he's a mess it up so good that it's almost irreversible So I think all you're all I just say it's irreversible.
Yes, so he didn't fuck around at all And then so yeah he started doing the thing and I'm not gonna get super graphic in here But it was not painless. I'll tell you that it was painful And I just and then Duke could tell and so he started talking me So I just started telling him about the fucking dessert and the sketch and he was like oh I definitely need to see that but I was like it's actually helping me to talk to him while he's in there doing his business because it was like Uncomfortable, you know It's like and I went out for drinks with with some friends that had had it done and I was like you motherfuckers told me that that shit Was easy and they were like well, you know, I guess maybe the pain fades from your mind You know over time and I'm like, okay I'm like I'd rather just be open and honest about the whole thing But it's not the worst It is certainly not the best and it is definitely very uncomfortable And then you're you're in pain for a couple days after all that business boy And then I go back in three months and see if it actually worked Maybe this is a question for Danica, but does the equipment still work? Yeah, well, you're not allowed to use it for the week but then after that week was up, you know Oh well is a week up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It's not the only thing that's been up.
No, I'm kidding. I just It is a reversible. Um, yeah, so anyway, it's it's done. I don't know I did it.
I did it so Uh, if you if you want to get it done, it's it's not the worst thing in the world But I'm not gonna lie and say that it's like easy peasy, you know lemon squeezy Shane. Do you think you will ever get it done? And he's got to be popular there. No, we really said that no because another reason is um remember the movie the iron iron claw Did that come on 2024?
Yeah, anyway, yeah last year anyway Went to see that movie and there's like a bunch of brothers in it and they're just dropping like flies in this movie If we come out like maybe we have another kids or not I wouldn't be like want one but we wouldn't be devastated if she accidentally got pregnant But then we actually don't it's complicated. So no, what about you? I mean you hate kids good question. That's what I get what now I had to go to like the dentist yesterday.
I was nervous about that. You know, I mean like I thought I had a cavity I turned it. I didn't which I so relieved but but yeah, I didn't want to go to the dentist I'm not putting myself something through something like that. No, I'm good.
Okay. That is going to wrap our show We're ready to start the holidays. Thank you so much to all the best hang listeners. Thank you so much major ash Thanks so much to make the Nash.
Hopefully you're 2024 is kind to you and hopefully 2025 is the best guys This was a great hang maybe even the best