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3rd show June 22 2015

from Perverted Podcast Hosted by Count Boogie

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Alright then, you guys ready? See. Alright, let's do it. The following show is for Mature Audiences only.

Listener discretion is advised, and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself. One, two, three, four! Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange?

Come and join me again. Audience, just enamored and enlightened. Hello and welcome to the perverted podcast, the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle, sex, and perversion, and at the end, motherfuckers, we sing a song! Yee-haw!

Recording life on the Threshold Society Club house in North Hollywood, California, in front of our perverted studio audience, Hello perverts! Do we have to pay you guys to show us this? We do have more than one pervert. I'd like to add this.

There is our four, but we have more than one pervert. I'm very excited. We are chamere filling the forum tonight. I'm Fi.

I'm Cappie. Oh wait. I'm sorry. Abyss isn't here right now.

Please leave a message. I am Boogie. Hello everybody. Welcome to our show.

As you guys can obviously gather from the empty chair there. Abyss is not with us this evening. Awww. She is out fighting people to the death.

Sort of role play. She's in some other country or something. Oh, I always not another country. It's actually in the United States.

I thought that was in Nigeria or something. No. No, I really, yeah, she's far away. And she does that for years.

She did like World of Blarping, Life Action, Role Play, but they do it for real. Like they don't just say they're going to do things. They actually get like weapons and beat the fuck out of each other. She actually like, look, like Zina.

She looks a fucking amazing. She has like leather armor and like, yeah, all the cutesy shit that you guys here on the show or you see here at Threshold, none of that. She is straight. No, no kitty abyss.

She is straight. No. No, no. No, no.

No, no. No, no. No, no, no. I have seen her go all Dexter on the medical room.

That is some scary shit. Yeah, so that is where she is. And so she's technically here with us because she loves me and she loves my penis. I totally agree.

She loves everything about me. I totally agree. I had to record some things. I didn't really tell her what, it was a while ago.

And so she will be here with us this fine. Your tits look amazing. Oh, thank you. That's so sweet.

Would you like to slap them? Wait. Fuck off. That's the place where unicorns play.

But then they fuck each other in the house with their horns because that's the kind of re-ish shit that happens on their line. That life.com is the world's greatest social media site for kinky people. And every week we talk a bit about the stuff that people are talking about for your piece of mind. Please know that every group or blog post we talk about specifically is granted as permission to do so.

That's the new jingle. Well, I fucking loved it. It's unicorns. People love unicorns.

I have to write a new jingle every week when we have a weekly thing and other people get sick of it. So that's what I got. Did you forget a jingle last week? That was last week.

We're just going to do it live because it was fun. I'm going to do it live. Fuck it. Well, do it live.

Let's get to FET Life stuff. All right, so the first step is a blog from The Feret, very well known Fet Life Blogger. Yeah, the Feret. He wrote one recently that I really enjoyed what's called How Are You, and it was about basically how not to hit on somebody on FET Life.

I'm just going to read an excerpt from his blog because he's an excellent writer and he wrote it well. An email consisting of the words How Are You is not a way of starting conversations on the internet. It is an actual fucking burden for 99% of the people who receive these crappy one-line emails because you've literally just taken up their email space to tell them nothing about yourself under about yourself under the blind assumption that they should do the heavy lifting and you were the one interested enough to contact them in the first place. I totally agree.

I also agree. Thank you Abyss. And until then take your how are you and shove it back into your pie hole until you regurgitate something, anything, beyond the stilted content, re-lazy-ath methodology of trying to make friends on the goddamn internet. Advanced communication theory, make it not about your dick.

Wow. So, so let's wrap that into a smaller package. So it's not about my dick. Okay, I just wanted to make sure because my dick is quite amazing.

I totally agree. Thank you Abyss. This is gonna happen all night. Thank you.

Okay, so this really is a P for women. Oh my gosh. Short, short emails. How high, how are you?

Hi, are you on right now? Fuck that. It makes me okay. I might be a little edgy this week.

Just a touch. You seem a little aggressive about this. How many do you get a week? How are you between that life and okay Cupid?

Just too many, too many. Fucking how are you? Is not, I don't answer them. I don't even answer them.

And the are you on one is a new one that I've started to get that really pisses me the fuck off. I don't know when you know. Let her go. This is her blood.

This is blood rage month for fee. This is her. We're gonna do the deal with this all night. That's okay feet.

We just get it out. So now Kathy, have you had an experience with people in very vague? I have but I doubt that there is many as fee. I think over the course of the entire time I've been on Fed which is maybe since 2007.

I've had maybe five that have sent me that. But even those five piss me the fuck off. So I cannot imagine what you go through getting that. And I don't get that many.

I don't get as many as a lot of others because I don't have I don't have like to pick some stuff on life and which is a goddamn shame. Well, it's amazing. Thank you. Okay, I have a concept of this because I've heard this and I've seen and I only defend myself because I am self righteous in my own gorgeousness of me.

I totally got it. But for me, there's there's a thing about the short messages now. Maybe hi. How are you?

Okay, that's that's a little bit lazy. It's a little bit lazy. But if you haven't dealt with the rejection of being a guy on the internet, you lose enthusiasm. Like you read people's blog like I when when I flirt with women online, I read there about me or whatever their thing is and I try to make some comment to let them know like if I'm like, okay, they like, you know, pizza or what the fuck ever, you know, kinky anal pizza or whatever thing they like, then then I try to say, hey, anal pizza is awesome.

You know, I put a piece of pizza on your ass and then eat it and fuck you and ask what what I'm just trying to I totally thank you, a bit at least somebody here agrees with me. Oh, hell no. So there gets a point where it's like after you hear nothing and nothing and nothing and nothing and once again, you're not on this on the website to appease me or be there. I absolutely understand that it's not your job to answer every email politely.

You don't have to. You just don't answer. But there is a certain thing I like to say that after a certain amount of times of not being responded to at all, you kind of do get lazy and you get enthusiasm. I mean, I don't you weren't getting a response when you weren't being lazy.

What makes you think you're going to get a response when you are being lazy? Because it's a sheer numbers game. The people who respond to fucking how are you? Are they really worth your time?

Well, that's how I feel. But if if somebody all they're interested in is is trying to get your pussy, then luck, then well, that's good luck for you. But you know, there are some people on the internet that are like, Hey, I just need to see a picture of you and okay, that's fine. Hey, how are you?

I'm great. How are you? You want to hook up fine? There are people online that aren't looking for deep connections and serious things.

And so throwing out quick things, you're not going to respond to them. Kathy's not going to respond to them. If they're cute, I'll respond to it. If some hot chicks is like, Hi, how you doing?

I'm great. I'm doing very well. Thank you for asking here. I will now tell you everything about me.

Would you like to visit my penis? I will do that. That does not offend me because I have different goals. There's another another thing that happens a lot.

It happened recently. We noticed. You have friends on Fetlife, you know, your girlfriends are doing out with Kathy, you and I were friends on Fetlife. We're like after the podcast started, even though we've known each other months, this is kind of strange.

But what friends and my friend, Mimi is here tonight. And she and I get the same exact messages from the same guy. Four letters. Four letters.

Another thing. Whole another thing. We we we compare notes guys. You send us a stupid fucking email, but not all of you do.

Not all of us do. But if you can see that profile lists me as a Yeah, because that's exactly what the horny average guy on Fetlife is doing. They see your picture and they go, Hey, look at that. That looks like an intellectual.

I think I want to read up on her and find out where friends are. No, a lot of most guys that are on Fetlife are dumb guys. I just want to try to get laid in and so they don't you don't have to answer them. You make a very good point.

The guys that send me the messages that just say, How are you or a form letter that is clearly a form letter? I thank you. Thank you because you are ruling yourself out. See you look at that.

I'm keeping a lot less work to do. I totally agree. I don't really are you really are bringing it home. That's what I think.

I mean, I don't want to play. Like I said, I take some time and I read, but if people don't then you just know that they're not worth it. They're not worth it. Don't be so evil.

All right. Moving to the next one. The next one is pretty interesting actually. I think this is the always the one you were.

The one you were. Sorry. It's my llama. It's coming out.

No, I'm excited about this. I'm okay. So some llamas don't have trouble orgasming, but some women do. And there was a woman who posted in one of the groups since I've asked this in several discussions, but I'm genuinely trying to get the most information is possible on the topic.

No other person in my life has ever been able to make me come. What the fuck is going on? Why can't I come unless I do it myself? And even when I do it to myself, it takes 30 freaking minutes.

Help me. I could have written that one myself. All right. It's really you guys go and then I'll give you the wisdom.

Just go. No, go. Give us the wisdom now. No, no, no, no.

It's amazing. I don't have trouble orgasming. Yeah. I have ideas because I used to have more trouble orgasming.

I would say sometime around my late 20s, I had a New Year's resolution to stop faking it. And at that point, the pressure to orgasm went away because it was like, well, it's either going to happen or it's not. I'm not going to fake it anymore. And over time, they started happening more easily because I wasn't worried about it.

If it's not going to happen with happens with you, you're like, you better ask permission. I'm like, that's not going to fucking happen tonight. Sorry, I didn't have your jackhammer, Hitachi with me. My little pathetic Jotachi just.

You know what? Maybe next week, I'll talk about the fucking marshmallow, Hitachi, but it was a problem. So, but when I don't, when I'm not worried about it, it'll just come in there are different types of orgasms, which is another topic for another week. So, but those like big powerful like explosion ones, they were a lot easier to have once I stopped worrying about it.

And that's, that's nothing. But are you saying you went from having trouble orgasms to the ones you do now, which are basically you can come on demand, which I hate you for? Yeah. Okay.

Well, exactly. It gives the rest of us hope. So thank you. Yeah, it's just going to don't worry about it.

I had a friend once I had trouble coming in and because she always felt like her, her partner was expecting it from her. And she felt really badly about it. So what I suggested was that he give her a time limit. It's like you're 30 minutes that you're going to be masturbating.

And whether you come or not doesn't matter, you're just, if you've got a timer, 30 minutes. And that way the I have to come in 30 minutes goes away because it doesn't matter whether she does or not. He tells her it doesn't matter whether you do or not. Just you're just going to do this for 30 minutes.

And I don't know if they ever tried it, but it was a suggestion that I made. That is absolutely, I don't use the timer. But this is, I've been chomping at the bit because first, the first thing that I say, now this is a guy who is a whore who I have played with a lot of women, well over a hundred and totally agree. Sorry of this, you know, it's true.

So I've experienced this a lot. This is really, really common. The first thing I want to say to anyone who is having this problem is this is incredibly common. And I don't mean common in a demeaning way.

I mean, it is just something that a lot of women go through. When I was in the vanilla world, it was probably, it was weird. It's different in the lifestyle. In the vanilla world, it was about 65% of women.

If you stimulated them clearly, some vaginally, most clearly, for 15 to 30 minutes, they would achieve some level of orgasm. And 35% would have a very strong difficulty with that. When I got in the lifestyle and started playing with a lot of people, it almost switched to where probably about 60% of the women had some sort of trouble orgasming with the partner or even by themselves and 40% could have regular or multiple whatever, supergasms. So it's supergasms.

The gung-gasms, the gung-gasms, the mammagasms. So the first thing is just like, fi's talking about this is really, and I've had a lot of success. It's not 100%, but I've had a lot of success just by creating an environment like fi was talking about where we remove that pressure. If you take orgasm completely, I have taken it with women that have really hard problems with it.

We take orgasm completely off the table. You are not going to have an orgasm, we do not care about the orgasm. The goal is arousal. The goal is to have an experience together where I don't care, and it's a lot of reassuring that I am not going to hurt my ego.

If you do not orgasm, we are here for arousal. And let's take that time with that, like you said, the guy with the timer or whatever, just creating that environment of saying, we're going to go to arousal and then we're going to stop and kind of stay at that level. And then there's other things that you do to, because I mean, it's just brain. It's all brain.

We know this. The orgasms are about the brain. There's a certain amount of physicality. There's a certain amount of technique that may or may not work for some, but it really is about the brain.

And there's pathways that are going from your amygdala or whatever to the place that creates that orgasm. And if you work on making those pathways happen without that stress, because the second you're stressed, it's over. You're not going to come. The second you're thinking about it, or you're like, Oh my God, his mouth is sore from going down on me, or he's tired, or he's not happy or she to put whoever whatever the situation is.

The second you do that, you're fucked. So if you take orgasm completely off the table and you make it about arousal, then you can start exploring those pathways. Oh, I'm starting to get excited now. All right, let's just stay at that.

I kind of talked to a lot about being a river. And that's coming to the end of a waterfall. And that there's rocks at the end of the waterfall that create kind of like these high energy pools where you kind of spin around a little bit. Let's just stay there.

Let's not focus on just going over the waterfall. Let's just give ourselves permission to stay there. Absolutely 100% fucking true. You gave me that same advice, because you've been trying to help me with my problem.

And a couple of weeks ago, I was with the guy, I said to him, and I'm in his bedroom and I'm bent over his bed and he's fucking me from behind. And hat very hot. It was great, but I'm not going to come because I never do. And I heard Boogie's voice in my head saying that you're definitely not going to go.

That is so hot. Kathy is a sexy bitch. Thank you, Abiz. And I heard your voice in my head and I just like go and thought I'm not going to think about climaxing.

It's not that's not the goal tonight. It's just about arousal. And the freakiest fucking thing happened. It was a good thing, but I didn't expect it.

And it scared me. I started laughing. Just getting over. You're going to have to be poking, pulling his voice in your head while you're getting diddled.

Yeah. No, it was just due to how great it felt when I let go of having to get to the end and just started thinking of how good it felt and not worrying about anything else. I couldn't stop laughing. It was the most fucking ridiculous thing in the world.

But thank God, the guy that I'm with, he's just so easy going. And later on, he said, if you're laughing, I'm happy because that's a good sign. So as somebody with your dominant and is on top and is having to take care of your needs and make sure that you're taking care of, that's the best thing I could hear. And so I haven't gotten anywhere near.

But that was just fucking amazing. That's that. I mean, really, it's like, be all Zen and detached from the outcome because really, it's about that connection. And yeah, it's great to climax.

It's great to get there. But really, it's not a contest. No, it's sex. It's supposed to be fun.

We're supposed to interact. And if you're turned on and hot and you get really, really turned on, well, then later when you go home and masturbate by yourself, if you can achieve orgasm, then you might have a more powerful orgasm by yourself. I'm still a part of that. I still helped get you to that level of arousal that you could then go home and then just tell me about it the next day.

And that's satisfaction for me. So that's kind of how I feel about God, damn it. I think that's awesome. All right.

Well, then fuck. Oh, the off and intellectual with logical fun six, but it's hard to pay attention whenever she talks because we can't stop staring at her. New Fee jingles. Oh, fuck.

Because you got big titties. You got big titties. Your tits look amazing. See you.

Thank you. You're tits. Amazing. She can't contain herself.

Tits look amazing. Oh my God. I know a bit. I wish she was here to smack.

Oh, I'm just saying. All right. Okay. It is always the first time for the first few weeks.

Apparently it's gonna be the first time I hear my jingle. It would be you're all hearing it for the first time too. So all right. First up on Fionfee.

A recent blog I posted about trying to strike a balance between my kinky life and that other part of my life that's more boring. So there was this saying I remember seeing when I was a kid with life a short E-dessert first. And I really loved that saying as a kid because the logic of anything that works on my favorite is awesome logic E-dessert first. That makes perfect sense to me.

So I've been celebrating a lot this year and doing what I want to do, experiencing what I want to experience, making up for a lot of sacrifices that I made during the last few years of my marriage. In the process, I put some of my old priorities lower on the list of things to worry about. Things like work, family, and other boring responsibilities. Last week was a really tough one for me.

I'd fallen behind on some work stuff because I was prioritizing all the fun kinky stuff in my life, including this podcast, which I'm very proud of. With some help and guidance from my friends, including boogie and some colleagues, I was able to pull it together and catch up on everything in a couple of days. But it made me wonder for people who are not 100% out, does that balance, is it difficult to achieve? I don't know if both of you.

I know boogie you're 100% out. So there's not much of a balance in your life is your life. You don't have to hide half of it. What are you talking about the balance between kink life and non-kink life when it's hidden?

Or are you talking about not wanting to go to work when there's all sorts of fun. Well, actually, I guess, I guess the latter, which would affect everybody. Yeah, is there the non-kink part of your life that you have to pay homage to in order to fully appreciate the kinky parts? And how do you maintain that balance when you really don't want to?

Go, Kathy. She has the worst. Fearful look. I have not been able to maintain that balance too often.

I give in just like you. So I'm not the person to come too worried about this one. As somebody who has spent the vast majority of my many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, years plus one being a procrastinating lazy, non-ambitious drunk, drug doubt, eating disorder, the list goes on and on of all the different things that I let distract me away from work and things that bring me to the next level. I don't do that now.

And look what I get. There's a certain thing, you know, and I don't want to get all like Buddhist, you know, that life is suffering and whatever, but it kind of is. It really is. We're kind of in this little metropolitan litter box here in Los Angeles where everything is kind of packaged to us and our meat.

We go to the store and there's meat and it's wrapped up and we didn't kill the cows. Someone did it for us and they grew the beans and you know, there's things and bombs aren't landing on my house and my mom's fucking head isn't rolling into my lap. So there's certain things that were a little domesticated here. And in other parts of the world, other humans have to deal with the same conundrum that they would like to be free and just have fucking clean water.

That would be like amazing to them to just have food for their family, you know, a bowl of rice to share. So there is a lot of suffering among humans, but here we kind of are so, I don't want to say spoiled in a negative way, but it's we're fucking spoiled. So it comes to a time to where the more I stay away from responsibilities and doing work, making money, things I don't want to do, being of service in ways that I don't want to clean the fucking toilets here at Threshold, which I've seen all sorts of horrible things that people would eat. You know, those types of things keep me grounded.

They keep me here so that when I get to put fee on a cross or abyss or mark, that makes it kind of more special to me because there's been a certain amount of things I didn't want to do that have kept me in touch with the fact and how special it is that we get to do what we do here. That is unlike the vast majority of Earth. Because I found that the only way I've been able to try and maintain this balance is to go to someone like Boogie, who's the person doing this for me now, and ask him to dumb me into doing what I have to fucking do. I could tell myself to make my lunch every day, but for some reason when Boogie tells me to make my lunch every day, I'll do it.

But if I tell myself to do it, I won't. That works for you because you're a submissive. Yeah, I guess I'm just learning how to work the system. I disagree.

I totally disagree. I think that works for you because you're human, and humans need support of other humans when our brains are kind of crazy. So that to me is the only higher power that exists as the experience, strength, and hopes of other humans that are kind of on the same page with me. So when I don't have the motivation myself and Kathy and I sit down and I'm like, hey, Kathy, let's get together and do some production.

Or we're both here at Threshold and I'm not submissive as far as my orientation, but I am very service oriented to things and I need support to do that. So I don't think it's just a submissive thing. I think in general, if you're going to get through life, it takes fucking a thousand people just for me to wipe my ass. I don't know how to make toilet paper.

I don't drive the truck that brings it here. Like if you think of how they diet and cut it down, I don't know how to do that. So if it takes a thousand people for me just to be able to wipe my ass, I need support just to get through the day and do my work. Well, thank you for your support because I've caught up on all my work shit and my boss loves me again, and I live another day with a paycheck.

Woo hoo! Nice. So what does a biz have to say about that? Well, let's go.

Wait, hang on a second. Wow. So, okay. Well, then I guess.

So thank you very much. I had a lot of comments on that blog, so I know that that conversation was probably helpful for a lot of people. Trust me, it keeps you grounded. I mean, we are just going to be robbed.

I mean, the reality is this is only the third podcast. Very soon, we are going to be mega uber, uber super podcast stars with like probably 80, 90 listeners. We already have more than that, yeah. Really?

Yeah. Oh, if I can rock. I know, right? I love boogies, dropping cock.

Yes! Oh, God. I love that one. How did you get it to record such a serious fucking dumb person?

It's called Rufy's. Drugs. I give them drugs. That's how I'm able to do what I do.

All right. What was your other thing? You were going to talk about this was kind of all right. So, let's do the thing.

Let's do the thing. I'm ready for the thing. We're so ready. All right.

So I think everyone's pretty much where I'm kind of a slut, but only for myself. I totally agree. Thank you, Abith. So I fantasize a lot.

I masturbate a lot. And so I like to sometimes let my fantasies just grow organically. So I had one recently and the fantasy started like this. I never know what to expect.

I just know that when they say in there, my brain shuts down and I go on autopilot and I go in there. It's one of the larger rooms, but all the furniture has been pushed back against the walls. There's a tarp on the floor and a circle of empty chairs lined up around it. That's when the wand hit my sweet spot and I came and I woke up 30 minutes later not knowing how the fantasy ended.

So I was hoping that you guys could help me out and finish my fantasy for me. But we can. I sure hope so. We can.

Kathy, we've written endings. Just sit back. Do you want me to give you the final line? Sure.

The final line and then you'll take it. Okay. There's a tarp on the floor and a circle of empty chairs lined up around it. I'm standing naked off to the side.

I'm looking at some of the artwork on the walls. When I hear the door moving behind me, I turn and see my friend Boogie walk slowly into the room. I start to say hi Boogie, but he brings the fingers to his lips and quietly says, he's dragging an ice cooler behind him and when he reaches the circle of chairs, he sets it down and motions with his hand for me to enter the circle. I do as he asks and I walk under the tarp, but when I reach the center, he puts a hand up for me to stop and suddenly I'm scared.

I'm scared because Boogie hasn't said a word and I know it must be bad if he's keeping his big mouth shut. He stands there staring at me, not saying anything, waiting for something. I hear the door open and one by one I see a line of people walking just as quietly. Each one calmly making their way to Boogie.

He opens the cooler, reaches in and begins handing out carcasses of dead fish. Oh fuck. I think they're trowets. Maybe halibut?

I can't be sure. But one thing I do know is that the minute I catch sight of the fish, I become instantly around. No, God, no. As each person receives their fish, they make their way to a chair and sit down.

When the whole room is assembled Boogie looks at them all, his own fish hanging limply at his side. And he pronounces, we gather today to pass judgment on this poor wretched creature, and to hopefully purgher of the burning desire that courses through her body and tarnishes her very soul, causing her juices to flow and her breath to heave. Stand brothers and sisters of the order of the fish and let us save the one known as fi on fi. They all stand up and come towards me and when the first wet fish hits my flesh, a moan escapes me in my blood because racing a second fish hits my backside and my mouth opens wide and a silent protest.

Then they start coming faster and faster, one slap after another on my breast, my backlight pussy. Each one sending waves of pleasure coursing through me. I look up and I see Boogie standing before me. He has a please look on his face.

He grabs the back of my hair and he says that's it whore. Release the demon inside you. He rears back with his arm and with the fish he carries in his own hand. He smacks me hard across the face and I explode in a climax of ichthyological proportions.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Kathy you're a fucking whore. I swear to god we have mine melded and you have read my diary.

Don't tell me yours is about fish. I'm squishy. There's a tarp on the floor and a circle of empty chairs lined up around it. I am made to kneel on the floor.

I instantly feel my submission being tested as I am kneeling on a pile of fish. Fucking Kathy. Still my thunder. But wait.

But these aren't the normally good kneeling fish that I'm accustomed to. So I get frustrated and make a llama sound to show my displeasure. He just points at me to stay I obey. Before I can slap my own ass with one of the fish, seven clowns with no plants come in and sit in the chairs.

I sucked all their goofy dicks and played with their bouncy house balls. I was a good girl and I know it. But the biggest was the last clown. Dwayne the rock Johnson in sad face makeup.

I reach up and honk his nose. He farts. I moan. And with a roar like Hercules he blows his giant clown god wad in my hair.

In my hair. In my hair. He then wipes his still dripping giggle stick on my shoulder. I assume that means I'm a good girl.

Cause I'm a good fucking girl. He makes me a balloon animal and sticks it to the dry gummy clown spooge in my hair. I am now complete. I fill my arms with fish and go outside and throw them at cars.

Wow you guys this is proof that I've been spending way too much time. Wait a second. You started reading on the new bitch. And I'll know just go with it.

Alright I have an idea. Cause that was awesome. We're gonna go ahead and post up. Beat you with fish.

Later. We just shut up fish right in your pussy. I totally agree. This wants to do it.

Oh okay. We have the the perverted podcast group of life. Yes. So let's go ahead when this goes up.

Let's post the thread and have people finish my story next week. We'll read the best one and maybe the winner prize or something. I like it. I like it.

Alright so go to the perverted podcast. Fios tons of sex. Yeah unused ones. I think it would be more valuable if they were used.

I don't know. Hollywood daddy would agree. Probably. So yeah so head over to the perverted podcast group on FET Life and look for the thread about finished V story and we'll just read it.

Fuck it. Or go to pervertedpodcast at gmail.com and say that that's another thing. But now we have another segment. It's good to let someone be whoever they want to be.

You're free to be. Come on yeah wait so open her. Read the thing. In our quest.

I am free. You would have to read something. You interrupt me. I was waiting for it to come right in.

Wait no we're gonna try this again. It's supposed to happen right when the jingle ends. Okay ready. That's not the right thing.

Shut up. It's good to let. Someone want to be free to be here. In our quest for tolerance we need information to battle our own ignorance.

Here to talk about the successes, struggles and debates surrounding our lesbian gay by trans and queer communities is singer. Hello. How are you doing? I am doing fantastically.

How are you? I am so excited that you were here. We've been talking about doing this for a long time and now you are here to lead us in these discussions of our ignorance or new information. What are you gonna talk about today?

Pronouns. Pronouns. Pronouns are where that takes place over now. Casino those nouns over and over.

Can really wear you down. That was rock. That told the West School House rock. You're so old.

Fuck off. I know that one. Oh hell no. Hi Abyss.

Missy too. So we started talking about this. Okay. Bambi Faire's cover was Call Me Caitlyn.

Okay. Because we have Caitlyn Jenner now. That's right. And the thing that kind of piss me off, this is what started my wheels turning about it because there was a lot of wow she's so beautiful.

Like that's that was a long conversation you and I had but that's not the point of transitioning is to be a beautiful woman. But the really the biggest thing that piss me off was people who said Bruce Jenner and he because she's Caitlyn. So this is how I got to this point. So transitioning and or not transitioning.

Maybe somebody doesn't want to have a seemingly associated pronoun, address them. There are people who go by they please refer me as they and there are people who prefer he or she who you maybe don't know and obviously doesn't fucking matter. Well it doesn't matter but in a society where we're kind of programmed and trained that these are the things we do it does take some effort and an amount of give a shittiness. So doesn't learning people's names.

No absolutely. So which I don't do. Oh you know yours. Thank you.

Who's that? Huh? Who's that guy? Who's that guy?

Who's that guy? Oh over there. Day over there. Oh yeah.

So here this is what's confusing to me. Okay. And I'm just gonna play the dumb guy because I really sometimes I just I walk the line of tolerance. I don't understand certain things but you know I love that people get to be themselves and so forth.

So I have there are certain friends I have a threshold that have transitioned or transitioned whatever. I don't really give a shit as long as I identify. They identify a particular way. And so they'll be they'll say you just call me they.

I'm just gonna be a dick here. Me a dick. Okay. So this person that I'm talking to I care about this person.

So I make an effort to give them the title that they is most comfortable with and I think about that. But as somebody that is just normally I don't give a shit. I go he and she. Even if you're if you have transitioned I look you okay you're a he or she.

So I say he or she. So sometimes the they and the we and the them. It's just like well I don't really talk like that. So I kind of am like well do I have to if I don't give a fuck about that person?

This is the dick. I told you. No no I don't know if it's necessarily dickish but I don't know if it's necessarily do we give a fuck or not. I mean it's a hard one.

It is a hard one. I like because we're used to binary. Sure. Sex is MF.

That's it. That's all we get right. Or there's fuck you. Now you talked about something really interesting though which is this is where now all of a sudden I said okay I can learn things from Sanger because I was saying things and she was pointing things out like oh you you talked about them denying their sex because we talked about the difference between gender and sex and sex and so what you were saying see if I'm correct.

You were talking about that gender is the chosen identity or non-identity that's a construct. It's a construct where actually you're physiological sex if you have an ex and white chromosome you have an ex and white chromosome and that is categorized. Biology has male, female and intersex. That's it.

Well so there's sort of three but so gender you know and I'm going to be it's identity it's it's my name so when you said that to me that all of a sudden gave me like a whole different point of view like I was being science-minded logic it's like hey you know what you can be whoever you want to be you can call yourself a woman or a man or whatever and I will do my best to respect you and call you by that but physiologically you're still physiologically this way and I didn't understand that there was a difference between gender and sex. I mean that was just my ignorance. That's a lot easier for me to grasp is that it's not an issue of people denying that they have an ex and white chromosome or a double ex chromosome. It's that this is who I choose to be and if you care about me then take a little effort and I've met some people in my in my re-emergence into kink that one day they identify as male and other day they identify as female and they can go back and forth and this is what they woke up that day feeling which you kind of have to like especially if they're your friends figure out what are the cues okay if he's wearing pants today and no makeup he's a he today but oh she's wearing a dress tomorrow and tomorrow she's a she and you just kind of have to figure out or just ask or just ask or just ask yeah I know what to say you know it's a communication thing that because now we get now we get into the thing that's like a peave of mine like we have someone who is transitioned here and they don't look they don't they don't like they refer to themselves as a woman and they don't really they don't they don't look that much like a mistake and a lot for being a man with long hair which I think is actually more respectful because this person has just said I am a woman it's not some social construct of you have to wear a dress to be a woman or you have to wear pants to be a man so that can be confusing but I kind of I just wanted to give a shout out because I thought that was actually kind of cool which is I think if someone's gonna trip that's their shit but if you say how would you like me to refer to you which pronouns do you prefer and somebody says he or if I say he or you say I'm not sure today can you help me out and and that's offering the respect sure which isn't to do necessarily with I can't believe you fucking didn't know fee I know you can't guess like and the other side of it is if you don't know so the fuck what like if you can't tell who the fuck cares but asking is is actually pretty respectful and awesome communication so it comes down it's it's it's funny because when she came down to that I was like oh yeah talk to people that's what humans do wow hey look I think it's normal for us to think that's a rude question and I found that's not true they're actually pleased to have you ask and so that takes a lot of the pressure off me I could just flat out ask him how do I refer to you yeah because we do that with names anyway exactly yeah all right okay so I feel I feel I'm excited because I really was a hater and I didn't know what I was hating well that's that's probably why and I still get to be logical and science-based and not have to pretend but I get to let people be who they are so I think that's kind of cool I'm glad you came here thank you singer you're welcome everybody thank you for having me around of applause well wait I'm I'm sorry god damn it there we go damn damn damn oh I suck in so many little I totally shut up let's go chill people are like all right so we have some great email messages that we receive from people who listen to the podcast by the way for for boogie sanity if you hate us please send his mail he would really like to get some more hate mail keeps us grounded it keeps us grounded it keeps you ground well no you know what it does it I've been but hurt my whole life by everything and what is is a power exchange and when I get that initial twinge of feeling like oh this person doesn't like me you know at first your butt hurt but it's really nice to give up that power exchange and let someone hate you and try to hear what they're actually saying sometimes they're full of shit sometimes they actually have a point they just don't know how to express it and they're just angry because they're a hater and I'm gonna hate her my whole life so I get it so for me it teaches me how to let go of the power exchange so if you love us please send us your hate mail send us a fee pervertedpodcast at gmail.com thank you very much which fee is pretty much anyone who checks okay what I am all right so we got a message from you know I didn't I didn't paste her name on here but a really nice young lady sent us an email sorry I wanted to mention your name so I listened to both episodes while it worked today that's that's highly recommended very productive very productive that's a good job I like it and as my boss came in later that day he could definitely tell I was in an unusually chipper mood I'm totally crushing on boogie I love your shit I've made it ladies and gentlemen I feel like I'm just sitting in the studio with you guys just chatting and having a good time and then I start thinking about the fun I could have with all of you and get myself a little too excited for work you bring her down you bring her down here I'm looking forward to your next episode thank you thank you very much for that very nice email and we also appreciate that we know that she has gone ahead and put a link to the perverted podcast in her profile that's so sweet that's one of the things we're really working on Kathy is now the volunteer coordinator regular I know court your volunteer Wrangler like it happened well because like people are sending out in the kitchen I was there obviously you can tell that this is our third show we're so professional we will get better and we are I think we are getting better now that the tech stuff is done or whatever so now we have a lot of people that are like hey we like this ground floor thing because what you're doing is a lot of fun and you're doing your best is share a good message about the community and whatever so a lot of people are like how do we help and I'm far away whatever but there's always something groups need to be posted in Twitter accounts and people but really it's just putting that link on your page that says hey I listen to this and so it helps people get to us but Kathy and I and Fee and Abyss are coming up with like whole programs of things that you get on the web page and we want it we want I want to share the spotlight I really like like sharing the spotlight so if we have people that are busting their ass for us we want to like acknowledge you and let you know that we really thank you for that help so our second email is actually from a friend of mine who after listening to the first podcast uh said hey great debut episode get closer to the mic god damn it thank you like blowjob close thank you person otherwise boogie's voice is loud and the rest of you guys are soft and I have to crank the volume up and down according to who is talking I have been receiving multiple beatings from boogie and he has threatened upon pain of never giving me a beating again if I don't stay blowjob closer to spucking my phone he is going to kick my ass or not kick my ass even with the compressor we have our new compressor everyone see the little flashing lights that's that that squishes the signal so that the lows will not go too low and the highs will not go too high and even with compression Fee has this thing and I know it's new and we're working on it but you have this thing where you you talk like you talk in real life whatever and and you like you do this like cutesy submissive thing and then you like trail off and you don't there's a microphone and I can't fix that I can see there's a microphone in my fucking face right now I know get on the microphone I'm on the microphone look and look fucking touching my lips right now I have a gun to look at the signal that's beautiful that's what we want that's sexy is a sexy it's sexy it is sexy you know it's a question on your mic muff you but she's but she but she's she'll be like yes I was talking this guy and gave him my number and you'll be fucking and you're like what was this a bad pop i movie don't i wait i canceled that fucking date you did so there that's it and I see your aggression coming out yeah you know it's coming yeah i see you coming out i guess we're not talking about the peepee flagpig she's just bloodless there's a fucking bloodless but okay fine yeah as you can see fee has little moments where she's really really sweet and cute and then she gets sick of my shit and she finally starts to get mean so uh we decided that once a month when Fee starts bleeding like something big um it's the end of the round the ravage party at threshold um fee changes her attitude a little bit i don't know why i have no concept of this but a little toppy she gets a little toppy so we're like look during that time if it'll make you happy um we'll teach you some Kathy and i and Abyss who's who's out with her own battling right now um we'll teach fee how to do some kink on someone she's gonna beat someone the fuck up that's what she's like got like the second you change you've changed fee and this is a good thing we're doing this because she tried to dummy the other day what did she do i totally did she just i made her accept a fucking compliment she said it was awful thank you so fee get over here let's go let's go no go over to here and then i'm talking to me me me put put the chair there because i want your ass by the microphone so okay i'd like to point over here close it that made me stood up like five minutes ago she was over she was ready scoot closer sideways sideways there you go okay we're just gonna put this over here all right puggy don't hurt yourself okay never mind all right oh shit we gotta get her something Kathy what feel time oh my god i'd like to point out uh me me are you okay with me hitting you you have to stay over here on my phone yes okay so what she doesn't know is that we got her a really bad toy because you know fee's bloodlust you know eventually fee's bloodlust so you know we got her a really implement of destruction here let me see it for a second so we can hold it up to the little care of this video oh you should describe that just hit her with her okay first thing first thing first thing you want to do is you want to find the tailbone get your thumb why don't i need to find the tailbone boogie so you don't break her tailbone she's fine she has no clothes she's usually bending over she's usually bending okay good so scoot a little before have you found the tailbone is that it yes good okay just yell so the first thing you do is you're gonna find your tailbone that is the place you don't want to hit everywhere else all around her her bottom at the top of the bottom it's a little bit stingier and more painful at the lower bottom under those curves that you just want to hit her to go ahead oh all right that was a good jiggle by the way me you have a nice ass yeah it was a nice ass very nice and and instruction is over just start getting her just get her that's it um what i have handed fee is a my little pony flip flop paddle that i made from the 99 cent store i'm in more pain than me and it's just big and loud and funny just hit her get her get it out of your system that's it now on the sides it's a little bit stingier so if you want to hit her there that's pretty good get her now on the backs of the legs it's even more stingy me how does that feel it's stingy well then good don't hit yourself with it fee you're topping god it's not one for you one for me blood lust fee stay focused on your goddamn blood lust that's a good i love the sound of that thing put your forward a little bit that's it here on the other side that's good that's good now fast now get her in the backs of the legs don't go in the backs of the knees because it's a tender spot and you got joints there are you doing like warm up on her god damn bottoms i think that's pretty good that's you did very how do you feel me me blood lust now pinch your clit you did not look like blood lust to me no it really didn't tie up the way she went to show her the toy she instantly goes to her phone and hits twitter she's i just got beat with the dumbest fucking toy in the world hmmm this is ours feel healthy i feel good do you feel a little better it is kind of fun me next when they when they can do you want next yes later we'll do later sometimes love is less than nice you may need some fucking advice right now Now.

What their stuff? Yeah. Oh shit. Go on in.

Wait, you know what, why don't you go ahead and start that over again Boogie. Oh, are you topping me now? I just finished smacking somebody. Yeah.

I'm topping you. I'm sorry. You've unleashed a monster. I believe it was on the podcast.

I shouldn't be all subby feet. No, you're right. You shouldn't be all subby feet, but I can still be. Go fuck yourself Boogie.

And that's totally us having our own choice. But. Boogie, why don't you play it again? See, that's so much nice.

Sometimes love is less than nice. You may need some fucking advice right now. Loving sex questions answered by the sagely wise and awesome. But.

Because fuck it. The more opinions you have, the more choices you have. It's super duper important that we remind you. We are not therapists.

We're not therapists. We're not therapists. You need therapy for realties. Please get some real fucking therapy.

But we are self-righteous. But we are. So. And that's fine.

Call the opinions. The some fucking advice. Why is my some fucking advice? I thought you.

Oh, oh wait. Should we play that again? Sometimes love is less than nice. I can only buy you so much time.

I can only buy you so much time. We got a message into our Gmail. I'm gonna go. So now you're just talking really slow.

Alright. Alright. Alright. I'm gonna go back here.

Shut up. It's my turn. Hit the post bitch. Finding your uber dumplings.

As a new dumb or top, how do I get over my mental hump of oh my god are you okay? Are you comfortable? Was that too hard? To the point where I'm more shut the fuck up and take it until you say yellow.

Basically less empathy and more aggression. I think that one's to you because you just stopped the heck out of me. No, I don't have. I mean the only thing I can say about this is that.

Three weeks out of four, I actually does throw me a little bit out of my subspace if someone's constantly going are you okay? Is that fine? Is that too hard? So.

I understand that. Once again I'm Mr. Analytical douchebag guy. The first half that he was saying was I'm assuming it's a Heath.

That's inaccurate. Okay. Fine. I'm saying I'm trying to be you know I'm trying to you know.

Sanger proves. Thank you. Thank you very much. I totally agree.

I disagree too. So the first half of this is a very normal thing because when you start topping or doming or whatever you want to call it you do you're very cautious and whatever. The problem is is that the second half in this letter it becomes about his identity and how he wants to view himself and then it goes down a shitty rabbit hole. How do I be more of a badass and not give up.

I mean the answer to your question first off the treasure is like right at his feet and he's staring up his fucking asshole because he's trying to be a badass and being a good top is not about being a badass. What you're trying to do, what he said there is how do I get rid of my normal compassion for another human being and become a dick and that is clearly not the way to become a good top. You can learn how to not you can learn by watching body cues you can learn in so many ways but the idea is that your compassion that initial hey I want to make sure they're okay there's nothing wrong with that. It's just getting to a point to where you can now let the other person be a human being and not project your own feelings onto them being hit.

That's when it starts to change. I absolutely agree but I think he's 100% too focused on not making mistakes and you can't do that because scenes are going to slip sideways. It's going to happen no matter how hard you try and it's not a big fucking deal when you make mistakes when things go wrong that's why you have to say for it and then you debrief afterwards and you talk about it. It's just that I think too many of us because I'm guilty of this too.

Is that we try too hard not to make mistakes not to just step out at one toe out of line because we're so afraid of making a mistake. And then when I want to play with you. So I mean those are valid fears because you know. I think also when you've played with the same person more than once you start to figure out their cues their nonverbal communication the way that they you know what their tolerance level is and so you rely less on having to ask repeatedly you know is this okay can I go harder not hard whatever you're the first time you play with anybody it tends to be a little in my experience has been a little less than what I can absolutely tolerate but that's because they're getting to know my tolerance levels.

People that I play with more frequently are well aware of what I can handle and we can push that and they do and then they make you make golf and noises make it noise now make it do it. Good girl. You made me do that in a scene. Good girl.

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