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Oct 25, 2017 54 min

3X02-Freakshow

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Beall is off enjoying Aruba during a Bachelor Party...so Kyle and Will hold down the fort. Tune in to hear our thoughts on this week's Legends episode.

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Fearing the dark and not podcasting about the silliest show at DC's universe, Bell recruited both myself and Will to join him on a weekly cast about DC's Legends of Tomorrow. Our first year was filled with heartache, wonder, amazement, and laughs, but now we're in year two. The softwareslam is ever present. How will we ever top ourselves?

Can we top ourselves? Should we top ourselves? Should we top our Sundays? With what?

Now I'm hungry for Sundays. Why are we talking about Sundays? We should be talking about the show. So without further ado, we are...

Straight out of timeline and right into your ears, I'm Will. I'm Kyle. And there's no Bell! And this is Legends TV Talk.

Alright, we're here after... Some technical funness. I mean, well, we're changing the way we do things. We're in DVR.

You know how it goes. It's quite interesting. And we're live on Facebook, and if you're listening to the audio podcast, you know who you are, Ross. You know, you guys should listen to us more often.

So, join us on the live feed. And I think the live feed's still going through, so... I hope so. So do I, because that was a lot of us.

I'm not talking about this. Ah, but anyway, how have you been, brother man? I have been good. I was just putting in some early days at work tomorrow, so I get to sleep a little bit.

How about yourself? It's been a crazy week, brother. It's been a crazy week. Work, a work, a work.

You know, I was talking about that. Because I like my job. And I know. But other than that, it's been alright.

I guess we should, you know, address the elephant in the room. Or the Stair to Tiger? Oh, the Stair to Tiger. There is...

there is no spoon. And there is no Bell. No. Apparently...

What was he doing? Like a... He's at a bachelor party right now. Is it right now?

Or is he traveling to it? I got the impression he was traveling to it. So... By the time they listen to this, he's already there.

Yes, he's already been there in back. And he's probably slapping his head right now going, you know, we could have made an elephant joke about him. But I'm not built that way. Or how about a gorilla?

Or a gorilla. Yes, we could have made a gorilla joke. Oh my God, why did we not make the gorilla joke? We suck.

I don't know if I made it about the show. You did. Which I don't know if I was talking about his show. He's about the show.

Right. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, you know, we talked actually last year about doing the, let the Flash TV talk, TV talk. The Flash TV TV talk? Yes.

Yeah. Which was not a podcast about the Flash TV show. It was actually a podcast where we would analyze the Flash TV talks. Yeah.

Yeah. And then we realized that we have lives. Yeah. Maybe someday.

Maybe someday. You know, but I'd hate to give Bo a bigger head than he's got. Yeah. But uh, it's all right.

They deserve it. They really do. So yeah, this week was kind of cool. We're going to go through this tonight.

What'd you think of this episode? It wasn't one of their strongest ones. I don't think it's definitely it had action, but yeah, it didn't really, the only furthering the plot of it came at the end. Yeah.

I agree with that. It seemed like it was lacking cohesion with what I'm assuming the rest of the season is going to be. Yeah. But that's kind of what I think this whole like this the second week of DC shows.

Yeah. Kind of was like that. As upon slow moving. Yeah.

That's what I hear. Supergirl had its moments and an arrow which will be on later tonight. So I don't know how that is. I have a confession.

I have not watched Flash yet. And I have not watched Supergirl since it came back. Oh, I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. Right.

I'm not sure. I don't know. It's a little too melodrado for me. The whole like season finale being about Manel and the love story there.

I was kind of like eh. Yeah. But you know, be that as it may. It's still a great show.

And you know, and if you haven't listened to Supergirl TV talk, those guys are pretty freaking awesome. Yeah, they are. But yeah, I thought I have to agree with you this week was kind of it was missing something. Yeah.

Not just action because it was missing action. It had action where it could fit me. I guess you're right. Yeah.

It really did not gel with what I suspect season is going to be except for the last for the teas. You know, I think if I was to give it, I would give it, you know, six titanics. I mean, out of the two, out of the two, out of the two, titanics that are, you know, have been made, I'd give it one. Yes.

You know, I want it half. Oh, very good. So we probably should just get into it. So I think it's time for a history lesson.

No, it's time for history lesson on the two. Okay. All right. I'm gonna power through.

I'm gonna power through. All right. Season three episode two freak show directed by Kevin Tonker Rain and written by Cato Shimizu and Grand Godfrey. Kyle, why don't you go ahead and tell us about this episode?

I will. No, I'm well. I know Kyle. I know.

May the same joke last year. Six, six months ago, my alert of Mario's vigilantism and suddenly left Nate in the present, the legends head to a petty anachronism in Wisconsin. Yay. Hope to.

Wow. There's something there. No. It's a circus by PT Bardam who has captured an extinct saber to tiger.

Ray's shrinking device malfunctions leading to the enlargement that is the shape of the tiger. Sarah visits Amaya and convinces her to return to Nate's displeasure. While Nate, Ray and Jack's visiting in Amaya and Sarah's shrinking lock the tiger. Nate tells Bardam about their powers and intending to use them for their shows.

Bardam captures Ray and Jack's while native forms the legends. Amaya tells him that she had to believe 2017 in order to preserve Mario's existence. While Sarah engages with Sharpe on the wave rider, the legends attack the show and rescue their she mates, removing and removing the now mechanism. Anachronism.

Anachronism. Eight records on with Amaya who tells the legends about her psychopathic behavior. Sarah tells the legends about the mollus threat which they do not take seriously considering her freedom to follow Amalus. Summons one, Kewasa.

I think the dramatic chip of face. Very well done. Well done. Again, you know, folks just got to watch the video.

All right. So first of all, we need to address this because I have a feeling this is going to continue. I can't. Can you say Ann?

Anachronism. Okay, there you go. I'm just making sure. Because this word is going to return.

Well, it's all part of the shtick too. Oh, there's shtick? Yeah. If I'm if I'm Mick, Mick can't say words.

Oh, okay. I get it now. I get you. I mean, everyone's in a while.

It's just going to happen where I just can't say words. I'm the same way. So, all right. So let's boil this down.

And I mean, you know, we've got some plot points here. Believe it or not. It was plot. Yeah.

There was plot. So, you know, the episode starts off with a, you know, what happened between the end of the opening of last episode and the beginning of the second act of the last episode. Or what happened between, you know, the six months between when the legends were left back in 2017. And it deals with it specifically with Nate and Amaya.

And I'm kind of glad they went here in a way. It kind of answered some questions. You know, she's making donuts for some reason, which I found kind of funny and clever. But yeah, apparently I didn't know they made donuts in 1942.

So I'm not a historian. So I guess I wouldn't know either. I'd always look it up. So they, they're, you know, they're making donuts and Nate runs out and decides to get donuts because they dropped some upside on the floor, I guess.

And while he's gone, there's a news article about Vixen in Detroit, which I love that she's in Detroit. Yeah. I do. Well, that's where she's stationed on a visit.

Well, because she's really associated with the Detroit Justice League. So, you know, I do. I just love that that I don't know whether she's always been stationed there or if it's kind of a nod to that particular brand of Justice League. But I mean, I've always found it.

I mean, that was where I got introduced to Mari was, you know, Justice League after the first year Batman Superman and everybody left. So I mean, I dug that and then she goes and I guess she disappeared, correct? Um, Mari? Yeah.

No, I'm I. I'm I disappeared. Yeah. After like right before Nate came back because I don't know how she got in touch with Rip about getting back to the past.

But yeah, sometime in between there, it's that's about it. She went back to the past to make sure that Mari still exists. Right. I guess I get on one level.

I get to. You know, it's easy to kind of be like, I'm not going to worry about history when, you know, it's it's all abstract and it's all like, okay, what is, you know, who the hell at least gets anyway, blah, blah, blah. You know, and then she sees her granddaughter quote unquote in the fan. She's kind of like, Oh, well, you know, I guess I've got to go.

Yeah. I mean, I guess what they said was in the episode, she's like, I went to Detroit, like I had to go to Detroit to see Mari and then I'm assuming after that. So I'm, I imagine that just some time. Yeah, I guess I guess like it between there.

She did go to Detroit. So, but even still then she still had to get in touch with the rep to make it go back to 19.2, which, which I'm okay. You know, I get why they're doing it. I understand they've got to have some drama on the on the way brighter and, you know, I mean, I definitely think our speculation was we'll get into later.

I think we're on the right track. Oh, yeah. I thought that as soon as I think last week to, but when she did the multiple, I was like, why would you do multiples? So, and again, we'll discuss that in speculation.

Stay tuned. But so she goes away and they flash forward almost immediately to the present quote unquote present time where we're basically now raised on the ship. He's talking to a Jax and Nate about the shrink ray. But she doesn't want to call it a shrink ray and I don't remember what you actually call that.

Yeah, you call it like a content, a molecular condensing something or other. And yeah, it's just, it's a shrink ray. Just call that. Yeah.

So, you know, he's, and they designed that and I'm immediately like, okay, well, this is going to be used for something. Oh, yeah. Otherwise known as our favorite McDuffin of the week. I really am beginning to think we ought to have Charlie McCharlough, the big McDuffin of the week.

What do you call it there? Music between there. Bumper. Yes.

So, you know, we ought to have him do that for us so we have something to play. And then, so he does that and then they start searching for an acronym to get and they decide to go after, after humor is a bit with, with Victor Gerber or Gerber there where they mess with him. They're sitting there and they decide, okay, they're trying to figure out where to go. And somebody says, let's go to the Titanic and Victor Gerber is like, oh, no, I'm never setting foot on that boat.

Whoever designed that ship should be shot. Yes, exactly. Or was it whoever built that ship should be shot? Yeah.

I mean, and which if you don't get the joke, he was, he played the ship builder, the architect in the movie Titanic. So, I mean, it was, I, I allowed my girlfriend looked at me and then I told her and she has this thing where she can't see faces in movies. I'll be like, oh, look, you know, it's this person and she's like, I don't see it, which is actually kind of good because then he not associated with other people with other roles. Yeah.

So yeah, it's kind of good. And so when she saw that, she's like, oh, yeah, I get it. Yeah. Was it, he said he pressed those dad, that you get?

No, but, um, it was great show too. But so they decided instead to go to 1847 and 1870, 1870 sorry, and the greatest show on earth, they're going to deal with PT Barnum and, and I love that they could not, I noticed this too. I imagine that Ringley Brothers has trademarked the greatest show on earth. So they called it the greatest show in the world.

Yeah. I was, I was wondering why they couldn't use that. And so that's my thinking. It could just be fan fiction, but my thinking was, okay, they can't say greatest show in earth because, you know, I'm sure that Ringley Brungley owns that, even though they fully opened, I mean, that's that's remarkably not sad because I, I share mix of fascination or show hatred for the clowning community.

So I don't, I'm just like, okay, they're clowns. They don't really scare me. They don't say they're there. This is not fear.

No, no, no, no, Kyle, don't get me wrong. This is not fear. This is genuine hatred. Like I, I've never said this about any other culture in my life, but I'd be okay if they were all rounded up, put on an island somewhere.

And then we blew the island up. So, yeah, yeah. I was born in the 70s. That means I grew up in the 80s.

Okay. I believe this wholeheartedly that the 1980s were about nothing else than scaring children into hating clowns. Well, I mean, they clown ones for Halloween. Yes, but I mean, well, you had poltergeist, which, enough said it, which enough said killer clowns from outer space.

You know, the Joker came huge in 89. I mean, it was about, oh, clowns. I really believe generational thing. You know, and you and I are almost the same age.

So I get that, but I mean, oh, yeah, definitely. And I still understand how you can like clowns and you survive, man. Good on you. Good on you.

That's because I was born in 89. Oh, 89. Wow, we're not even close to the same age, brother. No, I was literally in high school when you were born.

It was your bad man came out. So I put it to people. Oh, I like that. All right.

So back to the episode. So they, their repeat team saw a great issue on earth and they got. Hello, Wisconsin. Anyway.

I love that show. Got to get for something. Yes. Well, I mean, that's how many shows great.

So so they're at the greatest show in the world. And lo and behold, they find the anachronism and it is a saber to tiger. So Ray is going to shrink it. And I forget what happens there.

What happened there? They had to he was doing it fast because everyone was right because Jax and Nate were telling him to move along to do it quickly before the stage. Right. So we had was trying to get like the mass right and the weight right and everything, but it got screwed up, which is why it enlarged itself.

Honey, we blew up the saber to tiger. Yeah. So yeah, so they built they blow it up and obviously the cat escapes. And now they have to not only rassel with a saber to tiger, but they have to rassel with a super large saber to tiger.

So a dire tiger, if you were, which the sea on that really was kind of the hokey. They're definitely saving themselves for crossover. I was surprised though they had more firestorm in the store. So not the fire gun, but at least they had firestorm.

Oh, what? Victor Garber was outside. Yes, but it was cloudy, but it was cloudy. I don't think he was outside on sunshine.

I'm pretty sure he was outside. And actually, definitely sunny. It was sunny when he was a clown because he had the makeup on. He could be outside.

He was he's still Victor Garber. He's still vampire. Jesus. Yeah.

So he was outside. So that our theory of him not being able to go outside is a good book. Yeah, I guess so I guess he's not a vampire. I liked being vampire.

Jesus though. I think it's so calm about by Jesus. I think we may have to. But maybe he's allowed one a day or something.

They shot it during the eclipse. There we go. Sure. Sure.

Sure. I don't know. I don't know if they got dark enough there or what not. Sure.

Sure. Somewhere in Toronto. Yes. So thank you.

No, thank you. They were in Vancouver. So the cat, the cat done got loose. Yeah.

So Canary decides that she has an idea. There's going to be no way to wrestle this thing down, which to me was kind of funny. I'm like, okay, you got a guy who can do fire. You've got a guy who can shrink things.

You have a guy who can become steel and yes, okay, you jump over things. But like between the five of you, you can't wrestle yourself. So Tiger. Well, that's why they needed that's why Sarah went back and got a Maya.

Right. So what did you think of that by the way? I mean, they showed a Maya in the village a little bit and with the child and all that and she the kid brings the head and like, how did that say with you? What do you think of that scene?

I was wondering who the kid was. I was thought it was her daughter. Yeah. They never explained it.

So it was just some random villager. Right. The bloody helmets was an interesting touch because a Maya's hands are still human hands and not claws. Right.

So unless the I can't think of the word. Ten to ten. Yeah. They formed a mast and could do that to it.

But. Yeah. But you know, stuff. So yeah, I'm kind of with you on that.

It felt a little, I don't know, forced in a way. It was a little too. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I'm excited because there we go. Yeah. All right. So it's so much like a rural in a way.

It's so much like storm. Like her that whole villager story. It's a little too much like storm and it's kind of like, you know, if I want to watch the rural storm, I'm going to want to watch the X-Men and not legends and you know, and it's kind of also annoying in that, you know, she's kind of part of the justice society. I would have rather seen that.

I would have seen them, you know, do that with her as opposed to. All of a sudden we're putting in this village. And I understand that that's part of Vixen's story that she told to Arrow and they're kind of trying to retroact that, I think. Correct.

Like the story about Amaya's village that happened in Arrow, right? The story about, I think so, yes, but also Gideon told her about the village. Right. And not the bad, and that Shumla movie.

Oh, no. But let's never just speak of that again. But yeah, no, Gideon was, I think was the main person or main thing to tell Amaya what happened. Right.

No, it was Ray. You're right. So that makes me think, I think they did it on Arrow with Vixen and Vixen's like, you know, my grandmother died in her village and handed this down or something like that. And so, and I don't know, I'd have to go rewatch Arrow and nobody wants to do that.

But I know you do. I still think you should resurrect Arrow TV talk, man. I have to give up a podcast, honestly. Yeah, you can't give this one up too.

So you'd have to know. So so anyway, she's, she's playing with the head and all of a sudden, Sarah ship shows up and basically Sarah recruits her for one more mission quote unquote. And alas, the rest of your life. They go back to the future and, you know, and, and they go back and of course, what did you think about her reunion scene with the rest of them?

Like, I knew it was going to be weird with Nate. Right. So it was, and Mick hugging her was weird. Yeah, because it's a little bit out of character for him, but now I don't think it is.

Right. Well, he's like, I missed you. I'm like, you know, okay. Yeah, it seems, you know, so he has got in salt.

Yeah, he's gone a little soft. That's okay though. I mean, I don't mind it. Oh, okay.

That's what it seems. So, you know, hey, hey, hey, and then Nate obviously, you know, make me like I missed you. It was kind of, it was, it does show growth on a mixed part. So I'm kind of cool with it, but it just seemed, you know, it seemed to see a lot of character for him, you know, and so they have the moment they do the whole thing.

And then, you know, she then she shows up her and Sarah go and look for the tiger. Well, the boy is go to the bar and get drunk. Well, it wasn't the boys. It was, it was Nate.

Right. And he got so, so strong. So drunk. And it just, oh, go on.

Can't keep his mouth shut. Right. And he just happens to be in the bar where PT is with the bearded lady and some other dude. I think it was, I think it was, it was for one of these.

Oh, what's it? Okay. I think so. And by the way, second, I didn't know who that was until Rossila, Tim over at Supergirl TV talk tweeted it out.

Yes. And I'm like, oh crap. I didn't notice it. Yeah.

Well, and not only that, we should kind of mention this too. Like, did you notice that the PT Barnum was, I mean, going back to the Titanic jokes, which I guess is why they probably shoehorned it in that PT Barnum was Billy's name. Yeah. And you know, Billy's name was also in the movie Titanic.

He played Cal Hautley, the bad guy. They really didn't get any screen time in this together, which I talked to. I thought so too. I would like a not some sort.

He's, you know, like, you know, he puts his hands on a girl or something. He's like, really? You have to do it again. I don't know.

So they're there and since Nade is, is spoiling for a fight, he decides to start one with somebody and he steals up in front of PT Barnum and PT Barnum looks like he just, you know, saw that, you know, he was a cat who saw the canary and can like, wow, I'm really kind of hungry now. So there you have that. And it just goes on from there. They, you know, so their drunk Nate goes off on his own and Barnum gets the idea to try to whisk the legends away by.

This was weird enticing them to what was he, like a lap dance or don't remember, we said something about the like women who are flexible. I think so. And please correct us on. Yes.

I don't remember. I'm sure. Also, which we have feedback today from Ross. So that's cool.

Yes. And let's see here. But moving on. Oh my goodness.

And all sorts of messed up. Mm hmm. No, my, uh, Google Chrome is kind of a walkie. Yeah, I think it's because it's running the Facebook anyway.

Um, I hope we're still on Facebook. Um, I think so. Yeah. Okay.

So I'm just going to go back into the box so I can see where we're going and I'll edit this out. Um, so it goes back into, um, so he spirits Nate and, um, Jack's away. Uh, Nate goes to sleep it off in the wave rider. Meanwhile, the, uh, the two youths, the two ladies are, um, they're on the prowl.

So, and this is where we first kind of get the impression that something's off with Amaya. Um, like she did the blue eye thing here. Yeah. But I got the impression, you know, to that.

I mean, at first, you know, she walks up and she doesn't really use her power. She uses her Nate powers to kind of be like, you know, to, to calm the beast a little bit. So that's Sarah can shrink it, but she's not like she became like a saber to tiger to fight it off. Did you notice that or?

I did. I mean, but I think yeah, that's just all of her, like her power is not working, working well with her. Right. So they get the, they get the kitty back to the lab.

And I guess, you know, there's a question and maybe this is something we should talk about. It's like, how do you go on a drinking binge without Mick plot? Oh, yes. Like, I understand they want to separate Jackson and Garber because they don't want him to firestorm up right away.

And you know, Ray would go with Nate because Ray and him or buddies. So I guess I understand from a plot perspective why they would do that. But the fact is it's like, Mick should be there drinking. Like Mick could have been the one like, let me take him home, get him to sleep his off.

You know, you go have fun, you know, send him off to look at the girls as they get, you know, blasted and taken away. So that, you know, they get everything back and I forget now remind me, maybe if you can, how did they find out that? Oh, they saw a poster right of the guys. Yeah, they saw a poster, which, you know, let's hear it for Barnum.

You got a poster, turn it up in, you know, a matter of hours with the guys like us on it. Yeah, that's pretty fast for them. We're back in that day. Well, you know, he just went down to Kinko's and took care of it because they were still running the 1870s.

Oh, yeah. And I'm in the recorder. So they, the legends, basically, they go after, you know, Ray and Jaster made to suddenly become, and I hate this word, but it's really what it is to become Siamese twins. And so, because Barnum can't make them do their, you know, powers and then all of a sudden Nate and Amaya decide to go and get him out while, while Sarah finds, oh, oh, that's right.

She went after Dennis or whatever it is or Frank. Frank, it was something like that. Gary. Gary.

Yes. Gary. Gary. Gary.

Yeah. And they find out that, sorry, they find out that Gary has been spying on them at the behalf of rip and making sure that they don't screw up even more. Right. And then later when Sarah makes Gary call sharp, she definitely, he definitely does not play it well.

No. It's the attention of sharp and she just transports in and starts fighting with Sarah in a pretty, in a what is supposed to be a Marvel only thing. Right. And that was actually one of the better parts of the episode.

The highlights of the episode for me was this since Sarah fight. And again, they don't, they don't get down. Mark my words. Well, I mean, yes, they, they, they're supposed to have a new love interest this season and I, I, the way it's, the way it's pointing is too sharp, but that could just be the right of being like, okay, we're going to do a one, eight.

Man, I don't know what it is. I move back here and all of a sudden I lose you. Are you back? Are I my back?

You're back now. Okay. Good. Oh, yeah.

I was saying that like the writers could just do like a 180 and be like, oh yeah, it's not sharp that who's the lover interest. It's blank. Right. And they don't get me wrong.

I mean, you know, the, the, Sarah has to kiss every girl that they come in contact with, gets played pretty quick and you know, I'm a red blooded American man, same as anyone else, but I mean, I'm like, come on, it's got to be some point where we're kind of like, you know, stopping this here. But be that as a may, they have their throw down. Nate and Amaya get captured. And they, they reconcile the difference.

Right. Right. That she, she went to see Mari and realized that she had to go, that, you know, Mari deserved a chance to live and, and that she had helped a lot of people, she said. So they, they did.

They kind of got there. They, you know, basically then, uh, Stein shows up and dresses like a clown. Mick starts beating up people. Yeah.

And basically short story long, they rescue, everybody gets rescued. Uh, uh, they actually use the fire back, which is great again. And you know, everything gets taken care of. But then we find out at the end of the episode that, um, Amaya has been losing control.

So you know, whether it's like a path behavior or whether, I think this is more in line with what they did in the new justice league back in the early 2000s when, uh, I forget who was running it, but I think it was Venice, uh, when Venice was writing justice league and, uh, basically they put Vixen on the team and Vixen all of a sudden there was a period there where she was losing control of her powers. Like the animals were taking her over. So I think we're going to see a bit of that, which is why, you know, she went animalistic, you know, during the rescue, like she seemed to lose herself. And, you know, and then you've gotten Nate playing the role of black widow, speaking of marble where she talks where he talks to my, Amaya down.

And she tells them what's going on. And then they cut away to, you know, and the legends are like, how are we going to fix this? And then they cut away to the Malus threat and the mollus, the follower of Malus summons Kuaasa during the end break. And that is the episode.

So I don't know, I don't know. Um, like I said, this is kind of a hit and miss episode for me. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's the move the plot along at the end.

It did what it had to do, which was, you know, I don't think they wanted, I think because the villain is going to be so apparently so, um, vixen centric that I think they had to get past the whole, you know, why did Amaya leave? So I'm kind of cool that they, they did that. But now it's like, you know, all right, what's, what's next? So we're also still waiting on, uh, Damian dark to make his childhood return.

Yeah, I read about that that Damien's coming back. Yeah. And it's the post arrow, Damien dark. Right.

So, which is, which is why like this, why they're going like with, um, magic this whole season is why there was a bring constant scene in. Right. Yeah. And I'm kind of good with that.

And, and Ross actually, I'm trying to pull it up on Facebook, but unfortunately, um, like I said, my things locked up and I'm trying to make sure we don't, you know, kill, oh, wait, hold on. I'm gonna go in another browser here because Ross, our buddy Ross seemed to know who this was. I didn't even know who this was, uh, that had been, that had pulled Amaya or pulled Kawasa and he told us who she was exactly. Yeah.

Eleanor dark. Right. And actually Amaya's, I guess Amaya's sister. Yep.

Uh, yup. My sister. My sister. No, my sister.

Right. So, you know, and I guess she's, she's a player in the, uh, Vixen, uh, cartoon that they put out on, you know, whatever that CWC that's it. Did you watch that at all? Like what did you think of that?

I watched season two because that's where, that's where like all the, like all the cameos were because they had Adam, they had a black Canary, they had flash, they had vibe on there. It did have, um, co-host on there, but I also didn't remember Kawasa dying and turning into water. So I guess I'm going to have to go back and re-wash season two of Vixen. You know, when I'm not going to let them play me like that, they're not going to make me do it.

You can tell me. Yeah. I'm kidding, of course, but yeah. So, so apparently she's related to that.

And I think that that's going to give us a lot of cause for a little bit of speculation. All right. Speculation time. Speculation.

Yes. I apparently have a, uh, em, an admit. It's all, it's all part of my, yeah. I think really what it is is that you're rubbing off on me, man.

I don't like it and, and you need. No, but, um, I want to speculate a little bit on obviously the T's at the end because it was probably the most important part of the episode, but also what you, you know, where do we think things are going? Where do we think, what do we think is next? Um, you know, what, what thought process?

Um, well, should we get into, should we get into a minor right now? Yeah. I mean, this is speculation. So let's do that.

So, so the reason why am I as powers are so off the hook. Yeah. Crap crazy is we all think a Maya is pregnant with dates. Absolutely.

Well, when they daughter, right, it would be really weird if it was a son and then that would really screw up time. I think kind of awesome. Everyone would look towards Barry and be like, great. Maybe Sarah is now baby JJ.

Now this is a female cat's a dog sleeping together. Mass hysteria. Mass hysteria. All right.

So it's, it's, I would be very surprised if it doesn't come down to that. Right. I have to agree. Well, I think that that buys them the happy ending because she did disappear from the whole village thing.

So nothing says she couldn't have the child. The child grows up alone and she gets to be with Nate, you know, in the future. You know, I like what Ross was saying a bit too on, you know, it's going to be kind of cool if, you know, now that Kowasa is Mari's sister, um, you know, what's that going to be like for, you know, grandma to be having to team up with one granddaughter to lay this back down on the other one. You know, you don't, you know, yeah.

Yeah. Like I said, you don't choose your family, but I'm like, yeah, you can. Yeah. You can.

Yeah. I definitely, I was, I was one of the last week, I fully 100% believe that a Mars, a Mars bright net. You know, I think that that's just an easy, you know, it's easy. It's, it writes itself and they want to go lunch.

So, yeah, um, you know, I too believe a Mars pregnant. Um, you know, this idea with Ray and the shrink brain and is he going to become, you know, the Ray using the suit, I'm not sure where we sit on that. So, I mean, I still kind of wonder, I would like them to get rid of the iron atom suit. I really would.

I think it's annoying. But I like it. I know it's just, I, I like my Adam being Adam. Yeah.

So always have what we want. We're ever going to need it to. So, and I mean, I guess I'm wondering though why this whole, um, why this whole thing with Malice, um, bringing back a Maya sister. I mean, is it going to stop it to Maya sister or is this thing, you know, because this thing has ripped scared, you know, so it's obviously powerful.

Um, what is, you know, is it going to go through time and bring back like, you know, Jackson's dad and, you know, Nate's grandfather and you know what I mean? Like, is it going to start going through time to bring back family members of the legends to fight against them? I mean, do you think that that's a possibility or? I don't think so.

I think they're just bringing back dead characters that are well, right now mystical in order to fight the legends, right? Because you got going to screw up her name, Kewasa. Yes. Who has the water totem?

One of the five right. Total of Zebazi, Zembezi, Zembezi, Zembezi. And then you'll have Damian Dark, who's got the, who doesn't have a totem for from Zembezi. Wow.

Zembezi. Zembezi. But has a different type of totem. But now is he going to have his powers when he's resurrected?

Who knows? No. No. And then you also got, um, later on this season, you've got girl LaGraw coming in.

Yes, which I can't wait. Yeah. So I think, I think Beau's not going to want to miss that one. No, I don't think so.

Bell should be, I'm going to try to convince him to do the show. The weather, the weather, the weather. By the way, side, side thing. How bad does that suit have to smell?

I'm sure he watches it. I hope he watches it. Bell, if you're listening to this, if you're driving home, you're screaming at your radio right now as you're riding, you know, we do. Like, why do you mind?

I just want to know, do you wash the suit? Because if not, that thing's got to have a funk. I'm sure he's wanted like three or four times. Yeah.

I mean, there's probably beer of it's spelled out at all. That's, I need a beer. All right. So that's our speculation.

And you know, it's kind of cool that, you know, we mentioned it here earlier. Ross went on our Facebook page and kind of sent us that stuff. I want to encourage all you listeners, you know, both of you to do the same thing. You know, feel free to send us information on there.

Feel free to, you know, send us an email and stuff like that at the end of the show. We give you all that information. You can find us. So, you know, do that.

But I think, I mean, unless there's something else you want to speculate about, I think we're ready for Mick, right? Yeah. Other than like next week's episode, we've got Zari coming in. So we're going to have another member at the little lunch.

What is her, what do you think her deal is? It seems like she was created for... She's a hackivist. Right.

So I don't know. I mean, are we going to get Shazam powers or not? I don't know. Oh, will it be nice?

It would be, but I don't think they will because of, you know, the DC films. Right. Which, you know, I mean, that's something to think about too, is that, you know, there is talk and I mean, it's not going to happen on this show because they would never blow that on this show. But I mean, you know, the fact that they're bringing Tom Welling probably or trying to get Tom Welling into the flash.

Like, I don't see why you can't do Shazam. Sorry, Captain Marvel. Shazam stuff makes me angry. But, um, because Shazam is a wizard, okay.

You know, yeah, I would love to see, you know, them be able to bring some of that stuff in because I always thought Captain Marvel was kind of, I like the fact that he was the one superhero who could really pretty much put the hurt down on Superman. So, but yeah, so feel free to send us information there. Feel free to, you know, send us, you know, tweets or emails and you can even write an iTunes review. We do have one of those actually from March.

We'll go through at the end here. It's time for Bell's favorite part of the show and one of mine too. It's time for the Mick quote of the week. All right, we have three.

I mean, there were many of this one, but I think we boiled it down to three. You know, these were all pretty good. Two of them have to do with the same thing. You know, one of them I did, I left out loud.

The other two, you know, so I think we should just give it to the peoples. If you want to set it up the scene, feel free, but this is your, this is your bit, man. I mean, so Baker, wait, I'm not going to set up the scene. I'm just going to be R.I.P.

Headphone users. So, so you're, you're a warrant. I'm going to go through this. Come back here.

You little rat bastard. That was one, two. Die cloud. And finally, no, I just don't like their stupid faces and funny shoes and razor sharp teeth.

So that's the one they got me because he basically described any wise. They had to know that this episode was that they coming out after it's, I don't think they would have known how big it went. Right. Literally.

And so I mean, for me, my vote, I mean, hold on, let me check here. Bell, what do you think? Okay. Bell agrees with me.

Okay. Well, R.C. Well, the end of the week is number three. All right.

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