Okay, to recap, Legends of Tomorrow premiere, a podcast is formed. It dies. Horrible, horrible death. And it is reborn under Matt Bell's leadership, we thrive.
He taps two other guys to help out. One, a soft-spoken arrow enthusiast, and the other a geeky guy with way too much deep-cut knowledge of DC University. Actually, leading one to believe he's probably got no light. We come together, we talk about the show, we talk off topic, we talk about other podcasts.
We're not exactly broadcasters, we're not heroes, but what we are is... Straight out of the timeline, right into your ears. I'm Bell. I'm Kyle.
And I'm Return of the Mac. And this is Legends TV Talk. Gentlemen, I know it's Sunday, we're recording a little bit later than usual, but... Yeah, that was on me.
I apologize, may I call it, but... And now here we are on Sunday, fresh from... You know, weekends of the battery. Yeah, welcome to Sunday, everyone.
This is show about time travel, so I guess it doesn't really matter when we record stuff, because we can just say it with time travel. Exactly. In time travel, stupid. Yeah.
In Ross' Scottish. So... Yes. Is he?
What's we saying? Is he sure? Yeah. Is he sure?
I think so. I think so. Yes, hashtag professionalism all the way here on Legends TV Talk. Your number one in our hearts and minds source of Legends of Tomorrow.
I don't know if there's any official stats on our ratings and whatnot, but I feel that you feel that we're number one. And so that's all that matters to you, listener. That's all that matters to you. Yes.
Or if you... We value... You cannot read one of you, especially you, Darth Vibert. I'm looking at you.
If you don't know who that is, listen to last week. Hashtag... We should have got a nice guy. I'm gonna be a nice guy.
I'm gonna take a face turn. Yeah, well, see, what if somebody's gonna be the heels? That can be your Kyle? I think it should be Kyle.
Rise with the cream to the top. Oh, we have to watch it. He reached out this week. You know, he did.
He reached out to our Twitter. I did respond back to him. I let him know. I was just messing around.
I'm playing with it. It's all good. We did make some changes to the sound. So I hope the quality is a little better.
But I don't know that I'll ever be a nice guy, but I'd like to be a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. Does anybody have any other like sting plastic masks from the 90s?
No, but I kind of want to get one now. One of my favorite wrestling moments. Well, it's called Crow. Yeah.
One of my favorite wrestling moments has been like... Some guy, I forget who it was, he's in the crowd, knocking sting masks on people's faces. He's like in a rabbit's thing. I think we're trying to go one next call.
And it's standing. It's so good. Anyway, how was your weekend? Let's try to keep it someone on topic here discussing, you know, our week plans.
Excellent. Yeah, I had a pretty down weekend. I'm turning the geek up to like 35,000. I spent the entire weekend watching the Memphis Grand Prix for Magic the Gathering.
No way, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was like super geek mode. Like the kids were all watching stupid crazy stuff.
I didn't want to see like they wanted to watch Lord of the Rings. I'm not a big fan. And so I was like, you know what, I'm just going to hang in my room. I turned on the Twitch and I'm like, oh, the Grand Prix's on and it's standard.
I want to watch this. And so I ended up just watching it all weekend. Nice, nice. Yeah.
So I have been watching Jericho. Jericho. That's what I'm going to do. Really?
The bomb going off. Yes. Yeah, the nukes going off in America. And then like, you know, everyone's like basically reverted back to everything about technology.
Yeah. It was on CBS. Got it. But.
Cancel. Cancel. Yeah. Yeah, I got canceled and then came back for one season.
What was that? What was that? Wasn't it like on Showtime or something weird like that? No, it was on CBS.
Okay. And then I guess it had two comic book seasons, which I guess aren't that great. Are they canon? They are supposed to.
It's gonna be season three and season four. As opposed to, you know, the greatness that was Jericho, the TV show, which, you know, no one ever watched. And now I'm just kidding. Okay.
I can't be nice. I just kidding. Nice. I watched what it was on.
And I liked it. So I'm just I'm going back and just rewatching it. Yeah. I started.
It's like a summer show. I've been meaning to watch Altered. Altered. Altered.
Altered. Carbag. Altered. Altered.
Yeah. Yeah. It's finishing. I watched first two episodes of Probably To Watch A Little More Tonight.
Yeah. I've been liking it. So if you like it's like cyberpunk-y, which is really nice. And so far it's really interesting.
There's a lot of like full frontal nudity for men and women, which is, you know, they're breaking down barriers here. It's 2018. You know, it's time to hang down on TV shows. It's just, I don't know.
It's just funny. And you guys are like frozen. Or maybe Kyle's frozen. No, you're not frozen.
Kyle, you're frozen. Kyle, you're frozen. I think. Oh, no, he left.
Did he leave? Let's go. No, he's still on the chair according to this. Okay.
Well, I'll let him do this. Nice. Yeah. Well, hi Kyle.
Oh, yep. Oh, that was good. Okay. That's just us.
We'll get him over him. Let me put him back in from here. Three, two, one. Hey, welcome back.
Kyle, our four scores. What happened there? Don't touch the notification button on Windows 10. It will add your kill.
I said it from Legends TV talk to that touch notification. I got it. Sorry. Sorry.
Oh, yeah. It was a little more, you know, it's like, annotating the video. That's a swarm of here. Well, cool.
All right. Well, yeah. You know, I think we've we we we've mopped around enough with our the patience of our listeners. So I think it's time for History Lesson.
And now to listen to this time for History Lesson on Legends TV talk. All right. Season three, Episode 11. Here I go again, directed by Ben Bray, Story by Ray Uternichit and Morgan Faust.
Kyle, what was that? What was that? That was him saying you're talking to. I know.
I know. I know. I know. You single.
I don't care why he says I'm negative. I give it to Tyler. It's a totally different day. Yeah.
There's there's a slight difference there. But anyway, I made it to Kurnichit. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah.
And more in foul. So Kyle, what's the episode? A mission goes wrong causing the crew to yell at each other. Zarya times to prepare the ship, but gets covered in goo and seemingly activates a program that blows up the wave rider before seemingly re-inspirations.
I'm sorry. It's covered. I know that was that was pretty. Oh, it was.
It was. Hashtag. Oh, do you? Professionalism.
Oh, I'm going to have to pick that. All right. Sorry. Sorry.
From the top. Someone mute Will. Yeah. Oh, you're good.
What? What? What? I don't know.
Whatever. What is Will you add earlier today? I want some because. Oh, you're a lover.
Wow. OK, I'm good. All right. I'll set up focus.
All right. So all right. Mission goes wrong causing the crew to yell at each other. Zarya times to prepare the ship, but gets covered in goo and seemingly activates a program that blows up the wave rider before seemingly re-experiencing events from earlier that day.
The day seemingly keeps repeating with Zarya experiencing the same events over and over, learning mysterious secrets about the team such as mixed writing ability. Eventually, the team discovers time agent Gary on board who has been causing the repetitions. Mick destroys Gary's device, but Gary tells them that the repeats were only things saving them from death. When the ship is next set to explode, Zarya stills herself in the study and uses her powers to try to contain the blast.
She reappears in an empty wave rider where she encounters Gideon's human form who reassures her that she is in the med bay alive. She tells Zarya that she transported her into her program to show her that she can't save 2042 without the legends. Zarya mits the Sarah that she was researching historical loopholes to see if she could save her brother, which Sarah reassures her might be possible. In Yunnan, province China, the recently escaped rip hunter tracks down while he was.
So yeah, that was a really interesting episode. I wonder where we get our summaries from, but I don't know if it was a sort of joke in there to have seemingly show about five different times in the first thing. I think whoever did those little reedos on there, whatever I can talk, I just drink a beer. Oh, these two.
Oh, sorry, everyone. Yeah, they didn't go back there and re-edit themselves. Oh, okay. So I just type it out there and just forget about it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Well, anyway, what did you guys think of this episode? Has anyone ever seen the Stargate History one episode win of opportunity? No. No.
Okay. Well, this is basically it. No, it's grounded. They named, I think they named the two that it actually, I mean, they went for the greatest carbon denominator.
They said right there, Groundhog Day. And I'll admit it, when Ray was like causing effect, I'm like, yes, this is causing effect. The mission blew up. I'm like, oh, they're in a time loop.
Well, I mean, what's Stargate History one, they're in a time loop and if in a time loop where they do that fun montage again. So I think like, but I've, I've never, I don't remember seeing cause and effect, but I know I've seen. Cause and effect. Great.
I've seen Groundhog Day, but we didn't have opportunity to stick to my head because that's one of the best Stargate History one episode out there. Oh, yeah. Cause and effect was great. It was cause and effect started the whole day.
The episode started with the ship blowing up. Oh, nice. And then they go. Yeah.
Then they go back to they go to the title scene and then they come in. It's Captain's Law of Star Eight and they do the whole thing and they show you how they got there again. And the whole thing was based around the fact that there was the ship coming back in time, which was causing some sort of neutrino emission and, you know, Star Trek Babel. And every time they did it, there was an idea that Riker was like used to, you know, or Davis like used to try to be pushed to ship away because every time the ship came through the power was lost and it would have an in space collision causing it to explode.
The neutrinos would make time reset. They went 17 days through it, like through this whole little loop. So it was kind of great. It's a great episode.
If you haven't seen it, watch it. It was, I liked it almost, I liked it better than Groundhog Day. I saw a lot more of, I know why they had to stay Groundhog Day because everybody knows Groundhog Day, but I saw more cause and effecting this. Like I said, the minute the ship blew up, I'm like, that's what it is.
Well, see, I know it was a time loop because they advertised it last week. I'm just like, there's that. Yeah. I'm in a time loop.
Yeah. I'm not waiting. It's spoilers. I know right.
Repeating myself, repeating myself, repeating myself. Yeah. I know yourself. Why are you hitting yourself?
So yeah, overall, good, bad, mediocre, run the mill. What do you think? Let's fill our episode. What?
It's a filler episode that progressed to Zari's character. Yeah. It was what they like to call and I think Star Trek came up with this, a bottle show. It was the ship and a bottle.
It's basically like the cheap show. There's no real powers. I mean, yeah, they shrunk once. But really, there's no effects.
They don't have to go on location. They don't have to do pretty much they're all on the ship. It's all character development. So and I for one, I love those.
Okay. I love this episode because they need that character development, I think, especially of this character for us to care about it. And obviously she's going to be put into danger and peril. And if you put her in danger and peril before this episode, I've been like, yeah, all right.
Take care. You may know who cares. Yeah. Yeah.
But now I mean, I give a crap about the character. I like the other stuff they went around it. They kind of bought themselves a little development without, you know, having any without the repercussions. As the Nate and the Mario still bumping.
What was it she said? Oh, it wasn't bumping. It was like something. Yeah.
Oh, I can't remember. That was a good one though. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, just just that whole thing, the whole thing with Ray and Sarah, the whole they moved everybody's story along. And they did it in a quick way. They don't have 24 episodes. And this is kind of proof they don't need it.
But you know, Flash could do without 24 episodes. Make it 18 and make it a good year. I think it's 10. I mean, just really.
Yeah. All the money is doing 10. They do it in 13. No.
Well, they're definitely like to see all the all the Netflix Marvels with 13. But yes. But I think the show I think what they're at right now, the 16 17 18, those are good. Good amount of episodes because it's not a full 23.
It's not a full 20. Yeah. Right. But yeah, I thought it was a good episode.
I enjoyed it. The time was not fun. I wanted to I thought there was going to be an emphasis on Abba though. And I don't recall there being any Abba.
No, it's going. Yeah. OK. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what Gideon was referring to as. If we need to talk about something else, yeah, I'm all about Gideon showing up because Gideon, I'm sorry. Gideon does it for me.
She is stone cold hot. I'm sorry. Just at the end of the day, just when she talks with that voice, I'm just like, all right. Yeah.
Beautiful. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And you know, it's so that's the weird thing about this though, is that, you know, I guess we have Snap.
What is the age of time agent's name? Mine's like Gary. Not Gary. Not Gary.
Even on Sharp. Ava. Ava. There we go.
Yeah. Ava. I thought there's going to be a relationship. Before they introduced Ava, and they showed the interest in Ava and Sarah.
I thought Sarah was going to start hitting on Gideon. And we have, because that's the thing. It's like so far, Ripp's the only one who's apparently bone in the wave rider. Well, last season, it was Jax and Sarah went into the subconscious of Ripp, and they saw the human form of Gideon there.
Yeah. Yeah. So I'm saying, it's Ripp is the only one who fantasizes, and it's probably had relations with the wave rider. But I was thinking maybe that they would try and go and do Sarah as like a love interest for the ship, because that would be neat.
Because she's a captain of it, and just like Ripp was a captain of it, you could fall in love with your ship. In this case, both literally and figuratively. But you know. And I'm sure there's some joke about going down on the ship.
Yeah. The captain always goes down on the ship. I mean, with the ship with the ship. With a crap.
Captain is always the last one to leave. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah.
So you know what we're talking about. We got everybody. We got everybody. Wow.
So yeah, so we talked a little bit about Zari. So let's go ahead and kind of talk about what happened with her. So you know, she was always kind of like a temporary team member. They kind of picked her up in the future, 2042.
And it didn't seem like, you know, for a while it kind of did seem like she was going to be a permanent member. In this episode, they kind of remind you that it's like, no, this wasn't ever a permanent kind of deal. The floor up with her in the beginning of the episode doubled down that reminded us of that. So this was one of those things where it's like, oh yeah, you know, so like Will said earlier, you know, before this, it's one of those things where it's like, okay, yeah, she's a temporary member.
That means they're going to ride her off. And if they do, I'm not going to care because she never really fought part of the team. And so it's actually important, I think, to build that character up so that we as an audience care when they eventually kill her off, which I don't know, I haven't seen anything about season four renewal. So we don't know who's going to be on the cast.
So it's kind of hard to infer what's going to happen. Nothing's popped. Nothing's popped. Nothing's popped.
But there was a hashtag going around earlier this week. That was hashtag Renew Legends. And the Legends writer room picked it up too. But there hasn't been anything said about any renewals for Flash Arrow, Legends, Supergirl, or Black Lightning.
So I don't know why there was that hashtag going around. I want to say it, I'm like, oh, great. That sucks. Yeah, right.
Well, so I guess no news is good news in that sense because you figure if they hadn't announced stuff for the other shows, they perhaps if they hadn't announced stuff for Legends, that might be bad. But if they hadn't announced anything for Flash or Arrow or Supergirl, then yeah, chances are they'll just announce it here sometimes soon. So we don't have to worry about that. But anyway, it's nice to see Zari's character sort of, we still haven't gotten too much information on the totem and how the totem works with her and her family line and what it is in relation to the six.
But we get to know about Zari as a person, which I think was neat. And Zari gets to learn a lot about the team. Yeah, a lot. The best part about this whole episode is Mick and his space alien romance novel.
Here, I want to read Mick Ray's erotic sci-fi space opera. Types on there. It would take so long. But yeah, he got, I mean, well, three years on the way, Brighter, he's gotten pretty much a lot of it done.
Yeah, sorry. He's reading it all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
So that'll be interesting to see if they do anything else with that. I think it would be fun. And so Zari also finds some things out. She uncovers Konstantin's plea to Ray about killing Sarah with Malice.
I thought, I was kind of surprised that came up so quickly. I thought that was going to be one of those secret things they'll hang on to for suspense. But this episode they're like, no, Ray, tell her. So it's just out of the open now.
It's like, yep, that makes sense. So it's always fun to see tropes broken like that. And Ray cannot keep a secret. That's true.
That's very bad about that. But yeah, it's fun to see tropes broken in that kind of way where you think it's going to be this big dramatic thing and that she's like, no, I can control it. You don't kill me. She's like, yep, yep, if I get possessed again, that's pretty good idea.
So that was interesting there. And then of course, we got to talk about Nate and Amaya and their use of the flashy thing gun to erase the fact that they had sex on a mission and almost watched the mission. So that was neat. I wonder, so I guess there's a question going into this is we have all these different sub-stories that are going on that seem resolved at the end of this.
So do you think that Nate and Amaya are still going to be some plot points coming up about them messing up on missions or has this episode brought that to a close? What do you guys think? I think it's been brought to a close. I think they're going to do the hashtag professionalism on the scene now.
I don't think that that's going to be a problem anymore. No, I don't either. And in fact, I think this is actually going to be, you know, these little tricks. Like, first of all, I got the impression this wasn't the first time they'd come up with using the flashy thing.
Like, you know, like they could have been doing this for a while. So I think more than anything, this kind of sets up the whole Amaya having, you know, Vixen's mom, like, you know, and Nate being the dad. I mean, they're just going to take it there. It's just going to be one of those things that just magically happens.
And there'll probably be how she leaves is she'll have gotten pregnant and, you know, I don't know. I'm just going to make a mission. It's just unsafe. Yeah.
Well, I mean, and that just got, let me ask you guys a question. Okay. Legend season four. Do we, should they have one?
Yes. Okay. I'm being selfish because I want to keep doing this. I do too.
I mean, we'll find something else, but I mean, at the end of the day, I'm wondering how many more stories I could tell with this, with this team, with the time thing. I mean, you know, season one, they were going after panel savage season two. They were going after, you know, they were fixing the timeline from, you know, and fighting the Legion of Doom. This season, it's anachronisms from the stuff that they screwed up last time.
Eventually, we're going to get to, you know, they're going to write themselves out of things. What are we doing in time? Why are we doing this? Are they the new time master?
Are they new? You know, what, what can they do that's next? You know, and I'm asking myself that question because I love this show, but I want to keep it true. Like, they're kind of rapid up stories here.
I can see a reason for everybody to leave. I can agree. Like, you know, especially because Zari is going to fix 2024. It's kind of foreshadowed here.
Amaya is most likely going to fix them busy and have either that accident or that massacre not happen or happen away where it doesn't turn her granddaughter against her. Who knows what's going to happen with Ray? He's not really too much going on there. Obviously, makes it going to become a successful space opera romance novel writer.
Yeah, like I love the show too. Like, it's really weird to see what they're going to go with it. Like what I would think that could be something that could be interesting is to keep the sort of collection of cast members together, but maybe not have to be about time travel. Maybe have them like, you know, like a, because the legends serve the purpose as like a sea or sea or bee character show where you have all these different characters people love, but you can't fit them into the main story lines or every episode.
So you put them somewhere and they put them on legends. And so maybe it's like legends is over and time has been restored and everything's fine there. But these characters still have adventures together. Right.
Or we get a new cast of other, you know, maybe, you know, maybe he shows up. Maybe he can flash like that would be fun. We're finally gonna see one episode. He's gonna have more screen time than in this show than he did all of season four of Flash.
Yeah. And that's a shame because Keelan West is really good as a good flash. And I really want to see that character develop and a lot of the character development moments they're giving, they're giving Barry and why am I drawing a blank on elongated man's name? Ralph.
Ralph, there we go. Yeah, it's all Barry and Dibney. Barry and Wally and I don't know. I really want to see these characters.
You know, really want to see them go on. But you're right, Will. Like I don't feel like they're writing themselves to a quarter. It's not so much.
I mean, it's with that. I mean, with Wally coming up, I also understand why they're doing it. Not to be, you know, not to be, you know, a cynic or anything. But you know, in this day and age, you cannot have an ensemble piece like this and know, you know, fewer minorities.
All right. And you've just got rid of like your major African American character with Jackson, like Wally fixed that, you know, and his power set works. And he's a good character. And I'm really glad they brought him on.
I mean, I think bring anybody else in would have felt forced. You know, so I'm glad Wally's there. And I think he's going to stay because I do. I think he's more useful on legends than he is on Flash because at the end of the day, this isn't like the comic book.
Yeah. Flash is going to solve anything that needs speeding. All right. Speed steering.
He's got it. Why does he need Wally necessarily unless he's going to, there are stories to tell and you should tell them, but not weekend and week out. Having him here, he fills that hole and it's a cheaper effect because they already do it over in Flash. So we might get more powers and more action, more.
I think this is a better fit for legends than Firestore never was. You know, yeah. Oh, so good to see Wally again. Just, yeah.
Maybe and Ron said a few cars. Oh, yeah. He said travel to space, bring in. I love that.
Despero. Absolutely. Despero. That would be really cool.
Yeah, absolutely. Like, you know, instead of time, go, because that's the thing. It's like we've been seeing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. They've been expanding into their cosmic universe.
We haven't really seen that on Flash. Flash has always been just like, you know, their base care. We got a little bit of like, you know, the multiverse with Flash and Supergirl and things like that. But we haven't really gone into like the DC cosmic proper, right?
That could be something that could be interesting or have them Earth hop. Who knows, you know, there's so many different avenues they could take this cast and go do interesting stuff with outside of time travel. So hopefully that's something that's on the table for them to do. But yeah, yeah.
I think, yeah, you know, don't get me wrong. Now in my head, I'm singing the theme song to Lost Saucer for some strange reason, but that's, you know, the 1970s, boy, me and none of you even know who that is. No. She looked it up because Jim Nadever started it with Ruth Buzzy.
It was one of those Sid Marty Grop shows in the early late 70s, early 80s. The theme song is hysterical, but it's Jim Nadever, surprise, surprise, the whole nine yards, it's hysterical. And any event, having them go into space is kind of like a good idea. I think I just want to see them do, you know, something.
I don't want them to shift into neutral with this show. I'd rather see them ended and do something else that includes the second-tier characters from shows and, you know, bring them back, do something good, you know, because I think that's kind of what's going to happen with Supergirl here is I think they've kind of told all the Supergirl stories they can. And that's what, and definitely with Arrow. I mean, I think they're just running on things to do with Arrow.
They're like, well, he's the mayor. What now? Let's continue with legends. Yeah, yeah.
We can talk about how terrible Arrow is all day. I don't want to talk about Arrow. I can't. I can't.
I can't. I don't want to talk about it, but you know, yeah, that's a, you know, same concern on Flash. You know, Flash, we've gotten Speedster Villains now. We don't have a Speedster Villains.
So this season's been really good so far. But yeah, I agree. I really like the Legends cast. I really like what they're doing.
I want their other avenues that we can take this down. So I think that's good. And so yeah, speaking of the cash, you know, we talked about Zari. We talked about Nate and Maya.
We talked about Mick and his space opera romance novel, just hilarious. I see here. So we should talk about Sarah, I think. Because, you know, there's this sort of theme this episode about relationships and how, you know, Zari was building her relationship with the team.
Nate and Maya are trying to work through their relationship on the team. And now we have a new budding relationship with Sarah and Ava. Ava. Ava.
With Sarah and Ava. And so, you know, it's, it's Zari calling out Sarah saying, hey, you should just ask her out. And so of course, Sarah's response is my relationship is to work out, which is true. But I really get the feeling that this is something that they're going to end up together by the end of this season.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure. Like how?
They really are around a line of Knockdown coming on a season their talking about gaming Sarah, another relationship. And I think this is it. Yeah. Figue that this is one of her relationships.
If he's in a tragedy like all over others, or will this be the relationship that sticks? I think this is one that's going to stick at least until time rips it apart. Right, yo, you know. Can't have nice things.
Thank you Amber. parody if you can tell by our singing. If I could turn back. Mmm.
Yeah. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine.
Yeah. Yeah. I did that. Oh, I'm fine.
I'm so. It's safe. You guys should stop now. I know.
We've lost all of our listeners. I think. No, we're off. Even Ross.
What? Ross laughs. He's like, what the heck? I'm out.
Oh, we were going to say the name. I nominate able lance or lance of a. Oh, what's their their name? Oh, just sharp.
Yeah. It's already her name. Yeah. Well, so what?
What is going to be? Sava. Sava. I like save.
Sava lance. I'm just down with hashtag Sava. Sorry. Ross started hashtag Sava.
Sava lance. No, just say. Yeah. But yeah.
I'll just say the lance. No. No. Man, Ross wants us to sing all the songs.
I don't know because being British and all he wants it to. That's case you. That's what I meant. Yeah.
Yeah. And Ross is also sweet. He's Scottish guys. He's got to just get.
He's Swedish. I think. I think Sava. I think Sava.
Yeah. So yeah. So Sarah, so this is going to be, I agree. I think this is going to be one of those ones where this is going to be relationship is going to end good.
Or, I mean, you never know. It could be like Malice Gilser and that makes her like, you know, have a power to fight Malice or something. I don't know. But we'll see.
We'll see. I hope it gets nice for her. Oh, I think she has to die. She dies.
Who Sarah or Eva? Yep. David dies. I'm Alex.
And she's like, you know, open a can of Sava, flavor on Malice. But I think that also means that'll give her the permission. I think they want to try to find a way to write Laurel back. Really?
I don't kind of do that. So you don't think so? No, because they, something's going to be, I think something's going to be happening on Arrow. So I don't think they're going to bring back original Laurel.
You think they'll bring back really as Laurel? No. They're going to like try to change Black Siren's view on life. Oh, the reduction.
Sorry. Yeah. So yeah, because that's our two counterpart, right? Yep.
Yeah. Okay. Could be. I don't know.
We'll see. But yeah, so we kind of talked about characters and sort of the things that are happening there. And then we get to a very interesting portion of this episode where we see Rhett, which we hadn't seen in a million episodes. A long time.
Very long time. Six episodes. Yeah. So finally, Rhett shows up and we get to see him hunting down Wally West in a Union province China where he finds Wally meditating with a man bun.
Yeah. I am centered. Yeah. And so this is interesting.
So Rhett needs to help fight Malice. I wonder why he doesn't go to the Flash. A, B, Wally seems to be like doing soul searching and stuff like that, trying to find out who he is. I guess that's like part of his rejection from Team Flash is like he's got to find out who you know, to be his own hero kind of thing.
Maybe that's what he's doing meditating. But he's star-o all by the same. That's why I want there to be a legend season four because I want them to go and like, it explains how he beats star-o was by in the future he recruits the legends and the legends go back and like fight him just as league style. And then maybe I don't know.
There's something there and quite pieces all together. I think that'd be neat. But yeah, so we have Wally, Wally shows up. Wally's going to be on the show and we don't know what's going to happen.
So I think it's time for speculation. It's time. All right. So Rhett said that Wally need to Wally's help with the beat Malice.
Which begs the question, what's Wally going to do against the demon? Kyle, any thoughts on that? Besides running really, really fast. Lightning at him or something.
See, if we see Wally throw lightning, where was that montage in the flash? Because he may have learned to do his transcendental meditation with the speed force. Yes. I don't know.
Well, Ross breaks up a good point. By the way, also look at this. He said was at the same place where Barry left, you know, big surf. I'm finding out right now.
I don't think so. I'm finding out right now. Oh, yeah. And with my voice, gentlemen, find out information for you at the same time.
No, it's Jaiju. Both of you are both in the Unan Province. I got it. Jaiju.