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EPISODE · Jan 2, 2020 · 2H 41M

*4.5-Makkos Daf 04 A (5 Lines Dn)*

from BNEI AVIGDOR. Learn with us. · host Ed Levy

*4.5-Makkos Daf 04 A (5 Lines Dn)**Summary**Mishna: Almost 3 _lug_* of _mayim she’uvim_ (only a kortov was missing) that was completed by a bit of wine (which colored the water), and now this *red water* fell into an incomplete mikveh, *the mikveh remains kosher.**Almost 3 _lug_* of _mayim she’uvim_ (only a _kortov_ was missing) that was completed by a bit of *milk* (which did not color the water), and now this water fell into an incomplete _mikveh_ , *the mikveh remains kosher.**The Mishna concludes: Rabbi Yochanan ben Nuri* disagrees and states *Everything depends on the look.* (In the reisha [first part of the mishna] the _mikveh_ indeed remains kosher because the colored water which “looks” like wine cannot be considered water.*In the seifa* [end of the mishna] we disagree with the rabbanan and *disqualify the mikveh,* since the liquid *looks like water,* it disqualifies the _mikveh_ ).*Challenge:* You claim to resolve the opinions of Rav (4.3) and Rabbi Chiya (4.4) by aligning their opinions with those of Rabbi Yochanan ben Nuri and the Rabbanan. These opinions are not clear, however:*Rav Papa inquired:* What is the proper wording of this _mishna_ ? Does it read “Almost 3 _lug_ ” in both the _reisha_ (regarding wine) and the _seifa_ (regarding milk), or *is the word “Almost” only in the _seifa_ ?*If the word *almost* is omitted in the _reisha,_ the Rabbanan are saying the same din as Rabbi Yehuda Amar Rav (4.3).According to this reading of the _mishna_ , the Rabbanan do not hold that we only consider the amount of water and the “look” is inconsequential. The look (of wine) is enough to render the _mikveh_ kosher.*Rabbi Yochanan ben Nuri’s* opinion is that the only thing that matters is the “look” and it is enough to disqualify a _mikveh_ even when the requisite amount of water is missing.According to this reading of Rav Pappa, *Rav’s opinion is unanimous.**Resolution:* The proper wording of the _mishna_ *was a question to Rav Pappa,* but not to Rava (4.4). See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate

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