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EPISODE · Aug 11, 2026 · 29 MIN

4 Books That Will Make You a Better Public Sector Leader

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Welcome back to Public Voices by NEOGOV, a podcast built for public sector leaders, HR professionals, and public safety personnel who want real conversations about the work they do every day.In this episode, hosts Doug Shoemaker and Nicole Carlson trade their summer reading assignments and grade each other's picks. It's the back-to-school book club, and here's the twist: none of the books they brought are about HR or law enforcement. The point is that the ideas that shape how you lead often come from outside your field.Drawing on nearly 20 years in public sector HR and three decades in law enforcement leadership, Nicole and Doug get into vulnerability as courage, why fear can have a voice but never the wheel, how to tell the work that energizes you from the work that drains you, and why you don't need a title to make an impact.📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED:Daring Greatly by Brené BrownBig Magic by Elizabeth GilbertBuy Back Your Time by Dan MartellWhat to Do When It's Your Turn by Seth GodinAlso mentioned: Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara and ⁠The Time You Have (In JellyBeans) by  ⁨Ze Frank⁠HOSTED BY:Nicole Carlson - Former public sector HR Director with nearly 20 years of experience, starting as a dispatcher straight out of high school and rising through the ranks to lead her organization's HR department.Doug Shoemaker - 30-year law enforcement veteran who served as police chief at multiple agencies and spent over a decade leading public information and media relations.New episodes every Tuesday on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.SPONSORED by NEOGOV: Helping government HR and public safety agencies work smarter with AI, automation, and configuration. Learn more at NEOGOV.comThe views and opinions expressed by our hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of their employer or any government agency. This podcast is produced by NEOGOV and is not affiliated with or endorsed by any governmental entity. Any references to products or services reflect personal experiences and are not official agency endorsements.

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