4. Leanne Howlett - our first #MatExp, 'lived experience' guest
My first #MatExp guest! Huge thanks to busy mum (and so much more!) my friend Leanne Howlett for sharing her experience of perinatal mental health and how she is using it to help others. We are hoping this episode will be influential in raising awareness and spreading some of the, often very simple, ideas that we discuss. Please give us some feedback. We are really hoping to build the conversation. Lots of lemon lightbulbs! 🍋💡🍋 See 'chapter headings' for more detail and to pick out your favourite bits, including: The importance of walking in the shoes of parents and finding out what actually matters to them Small, often very informal, things matter Don’t guess what people want, listen to them. Use genuine coproduction; be brave Share examples – e.g. a simple video to help people know what to expect Don’t overthink; just be human and the rest will fall into place Build trust through relationships rather than tick boxes The community are there to support you – use imaginative approaches Supporting resources Leanne and clinical psychologist Kirstie read and talk about the wonderful paired ‘I’m fine’ poems they wrote as part of the Whose Shoes #MindNBody resources: https://twitter.com/howlett_leanne/status/1070068078678024193?s=21 https://twitter.com/howlett_leanne/status/1070322658259156992?s=21 Leanne speaks at our #VirtualWhoseShoes postnatal event in Southampton: Leanne Howlett - Whose Shoes postnatal workshop, Southampton - June 2021 - YouTube Leanne‘s blog: https://leannejhowlett.medium.com/why-becoming-a-mum-is-the-hardest-thing-ive-ever-done-233293734cc3 Leanne‘s campaign asking the government to invest in life-saving health visitors: https://twitter.com/nspcc_press/status/1443597957861941248?s=21 Sign Leanne’s open letter and show your support: https://twitter.com/nspcc_press/status/1443597957861941248?s=21 We LOVE it when you leave a review! If you enjoy my podcast and find these conversations useful please share your thoughts by leaving a review (Spotify or Apple are easiest to leave a review - navigate via 3 dots) and comment on your favourite episodes. Connect with me - Gill Phillips - on LinkedIn, especially if you are interested in our brand new #CYPWhoseShoes resources or our well-established #MatExp (maternity experience) work. I tweet (not so much these days!) as @WhoseShoes and am on Instagram as @WhoseShoesUK and @WildCardWS. Please recommend 'Wild Card - Whose Shoes' to others who enjoy hearing passionate people talk about their experiences of improving health care.
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My first #MatExp guest! Huge thanks to busy mum (and so much more!) my friend Leanne Howlett for sharing her experience of perinatal mental health and how she is using it to help others. We are hoping this episode will be influential in raising awareness and spreading some of the, often very simple, ideas that we discuss. Please give us some feedback. We are really hoping to build the conversation. Lots of lemon lightbulbs! 🍋💡🍋 See 'chapter headings' for more detail and to pick out yo...
Chapters
- 0:00 The influence of #MatExp Whose Shoes #MindNBody - teasing out the real issues
- 0:57 Welcoming our first ‘lived experience’ guest #MatExp
- 2:00 Leanne talks about her experience of perinatal mental health problems
- 2:39 Getting involved in helping others – peer support
- 3:49 Practical support – parents helping other parents
- 4:50 Growing and expanding
- 5:30 Sharing similar ideas from other parts of the country
- 6:15 The beauty of coproduction
- 6:50 Our first lemon lightbulbs!
- 7:20 “ Holding the hope for me until I was able to hold it for myself”
- 8:45 Sharing good practice widely
- 9:11 The chance to feedback as human beings
- 10:32 “I’m fine” - Leanne’s poem
- 12:38 ‘Perfect mother’ - the pressure from social media; the conspiracy of silence
- 15:00 Breaking the taboos; societal expectations
- 17:30 The influence of #MatExp Whose Shoes #MindNBody – teasing out the real issues
- 18:49 Just listen. Be human! The rest will fall into place.
- 19:25 The special role of a good health visitor, good relationships
- 21:10 ‘Crossing the road’ - don’t do it!
- 22:25 Leanne talks about Whose Shoes workshops - daring to have these conversations
- 22:58 The role of coproduction tools in creating open, honest conversations
- 26:02 Shoutout to Ann Remmers - listening and learning. As equals.
- 27:27 You always learn something new!
- 28:29 Supporting new mums coming home from mother and baby units
- 30:21 Covid wellbeing packs - and fundraising!
- 31:35 Motivation? Make it easy for people who are unwell.
- 32:18 Tapping into community support
- 33:25 Shoutout to Joan Pons Laplana and the Cavell Trust
- 34:00 Leanne’s ‘By Your Side’ perinatal mental health walk, Coventry
- 34:52 … #JFDI and celebrate!
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