EPISODE · Oct 20, 2025 · 1H 1M
400 — Infected On Purpose? Rethinking Herd Immunity with Dr. Jonathan Howard
from BS Free MD with Drs. May and Tim Hindmarsh - Medicine, Life, Family, Physician, Doctor, Healthcare, Medical History · host Dr. Jonathan Howard, Drs. May and Tim Hindmarsh
In this rerun of episode #281, hosts Drs. May and Tim Hindmarsh interview neurologist-psychiatrist Dr. Jonathan Howard, author of We Want Them Infected. Dr. Howard critiques the widely discussed “herd immunity via infection” strategy during the COVID-19 pandemic. He draws on his dual specialties and hospital experience at institutions like NYU Langone Medical Center and Bellevue Hospital to explore how public health policy, vaccine deployment, lockdowns, school closures, and early treatment approaches intersected — sometimes with unintended consequences. The episode highlights ethical questions around using children as vectors of infection, the tension between hospital frontline realities and broad public-health strategies, and the importance of open discussion in medicine rather than censorship. GET SOCIAL WITH US!🎧 Subscribe to BS Free MD for unfiltered insights on medicine, wellness, and everything in between.💬 Got thoughts or questions? DM us or drop a comment—we love hearing from you! [email protected] DISCLAIMEREverything in this podcast is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute the practice of medicine and we are not providing medical advice. No Physician-patient relationship is formed and anything discussed in this podcast does not represent the views of our employers. The Fine Print!All opinions expressed by the hosts or guests in this episode are solely their opinion and are not to be used as specific medical advice. The hosts, May and Tim Hindmarsh MD, BS Free MD LLC, or any affiliates thereof are not under any obligation to update or correct any information provided in this episode. The guest's statements and opinions are subject to change without notice.Thanks for joining us! You are the reason we are here. If you have questions, reach out to us at [email protected] or find Tim and I on Facebook and IG.Please check out our every growing website as well at bsfreemd.com (no www) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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In this rerun episode, Drs. May and Tim Hindmarsh sit down with neurologist and psychiatrist Dr. Jonathan Howard, author of We Want Them Infected, to unpack one of the most controversial pandemic strategies — achieving herd immunity through infection. Dr. Howard challenges the ethics and science behind intentionally allowing widespread COVID-19 exposure, especially among children, and reflects on how politics, misinformation, and public-health messaging shaped pandemic decisions. The conversation dives into lessons learned, what we got wrong, and how medicine can do better in the face of future crises.
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