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EPISODE · Feb 4, 2026 · 57 MIN

400P_Climate change vs cities with Hudson Worsley, Matt Gijselman, and Allan Savory

from What is The Future for Cities? · host Fanni Melles

Are you interested in how to address climate change’s effects in cities? What do you think is the root cause of current problems? How can we implement a simple understanding in our seemingly complex systems? This episode is a panel discussion about climate change vs cities. The panellists, Hudson Worsley, Matt Gijselman and Allan Savory talk about their vision for the future of cities, agriculture, the root causes, urban management, and many more. Hudson Worsley is the co-founder and director of Presync, a certified B Corp sustainability consultancy, and Chair of MECLA, the Materials & Embodied Carbon Leaders' Alliance. He helps organisations transition to a zero-carbon economy and adapt to climate change. Hudson identifies opportunities for energy efficiency, on-site renewables, and renewable power purchase agreements. With Presync's integrated approach and many years of experience, the small, nimble team draws on deep expertise in energy, innovation, property development, emissions reduction, and climate change.Hudson talked about environmental services in episode 280.Matt Gijselman, with over 20 years of experience in public policy and advocacy, is the Director of Infrastructure Policy Advancement for APAC at Bentley Systems. He leads policy initiatives supporting digital transformation in infrastructure, working with stakeholders from government, industry, academia, and media. Matt is a strategic leader with strong communication and project management skills, deeply understanding the APAC policy and regulatory environment. He is dedicated to advancing infrastructure and bringing diverse perspectives to Bentley Systems.Matt talked about blue and green infrastructure in episode 258.Allan Savory, born in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) in 1935 and educated at the University of Natal, started his career as a research biologist and game ranger in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia). His diverse path included roles as soldier, farmer, rancher, international ecological consultant, and Member of Parliament. Opposing Ian Smith's regime led to his exile to the U.S. in 1979. In 2009, he co-founded the Savory Institute to promote Holistic Management worldwide - outlined in his book Holistic Management: A Commonsense Revolution to Restore Our Environment (2016). He received Australia's 2003 Banksia International Award for global environmental impact. His 2013 TED talk on desertification has millions of views.Allan talked about holistic management in episode 356.Connected episodes you might be interested in:⁠No.257R - Formal Model for Green Urbanism in Smart CitiesNo.279R - How ecosystems services drive urban growth: Integrating nature-based solutionsNo.355R - The foundations of holistic managementNo.399R - 30 Years of Adaptation under the Convention and the Paris AgreementWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WTF4Cities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠wtf4cities.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ website where the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shownotes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Descript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ assistance (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠affiliate link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠).Music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lesfm ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pixabay

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