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This week, Sammy is back with Ian and Kat, which means the episode starts exactly where you’d expect: haircut commentary, a brief discussion about dating, and Kat casually considering a move to San Francisco by lunchtime. Somewhere in the middle of all that, they do eventually get to the actual topic: change management. Together, they unpack what it looks like to lead through change when everyone is trying their best, but no one has all the answers. Sammy talks about how to keep teams steady without pretending you know everything, Ian explains why he somehow remains annoyingly optimistic every time things get shaken up, and Kat asks the very fair question: what if you’re supposed to help people trust the process when you may not? It’s a conversation about uncertainty, leadership, and the delicate art of being calm and credible while internally maybe having just a tiny crisis of your own. If you’ve ever heard the words “organizational change” and immediately texted a coworker, this one’s for you. If you like the show, give us a click: https://www.cisco.com/site/us/en/solutions/small-business/index.html