#407 Carlos 'Ocelote' Rodriguez - Esports, Belief & Refusing to Apologise

Zuby sits down with entrepreneur, esports pioneer, and holistic performance coach Carlos Rodriguez (aka Ocelote) to discuss gaming, spirituality, cancel culture, and the power of belief. The two discuss his journey from being one of the world's best competitive gamers to building the largest company in esports, the viral 2022 controversy that led to him stepping down as CEO of G2 Esports, and why refusing to apologise was the best decision he ever made. They also discuss belief systems, quantum reality, the cost of pure materialism, creation over consumption, and why so many people are trapped in victim mentality.Sponsored by:Veritas Wealth Management helps families, business owners, and retirees build real financial freedom through hands-on expert investment guidance. Schedule a call today at https://veritasalaska.comFollow Carlos Rodriguez:https://instagram.com/oceloteworldFollow Zuby:https://linktr.ee/zubymusicSubscribe to 'Real Talk with Zuby' on Apple Podcasts or Spotify:https://fanlink.tv/zubypodcastTimestamps:(00:00) Introduction(00:33) From esports prodigy to founder(05:00) Dropping out at 15 & family pressure(07:23) Purpose, exceptionalism & competitive mindset(10:00) Spirituality, quantum reality & belief systems(21:17) Religion, mythology & shared narratives(26:38) The controversy that changed everything(34:07) Standing alone & refusing to apologise(38:14) Cancel culture, courage & cowardice(45:00) Your environment shapes your output(50:04) Stop consuming. Start creating.(55:01) Victim mindset vs personal responsibility(57:26) What Carlos is building now(01:01:43) Owning your audience & escaping the system(01:04:01) OutroSupport this podcast at:https://redcircle.com/real-talk-with-zuby/donationsAdvertising Inquiries:https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out:https://redcircle.com/privacySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/real-talk-with-zuby/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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